Mini #1007 (Game Over)

[Hoopla]

That's about an hour and a half away, if my calculations are correct. I'll see you then!

[redtail896]

Hey, scratch that, I'm unexpectedly free now. I'll also be here at five. Feel free to interrogate me as you see fit.

[Hoopla]

YAY. First question; top two suspects? And a follow-up question, would you be prepared to lynch outside of those two players?

[redtail896]

VRK is almost certainly number one. A more thorough case against him will probably be forthcoming, but the general outline is as above.

Number 2 is a bit trickier though. All of my major suspects have huge strikes against them. I guess that I tentatively have to go with Almaster. You (and others) already noted his quick switch from Zach to Elleran on D1. I see no problem with Zach's quick vote on Almaster d1 (after mine and AGar's); he probably saw our bandwagon as relatively weak, and wanted to get on it before it fell apart to separate himself from AGM. The biggest problem with AGM is his quick insistence on lynching Zach yesterday. I am willing to chalk this up to extreme bussing if AGM figured that Zach would be the lynch anyway. (For the record, I consider his venom against G&H interesting, but more of a null tell)

However, AGM gets interesting when we look at VRK. AGM and VRK have little real contact, despite both being relatively active members of the game. VRK has usually viewed AGM as very townie (with the odd exception of his post voting for Almaster (which I believe at the time was a relatively safe vote)). AGM alternates between seeing VRK as kinda scummy and townie enough to lynch G&H over him (along with KKN). So I find this interaction suspicious.

I'd also like to state that my AGM suspicion is much weaker than my VRK suspicion.

Would I be willing to lynch outside of those 2? Potentially yes, if presented with a good argument.

[Hoopla]

Hey, no need for a mini essay. I think you're stretching it with the AGM suspicion. Don't you think a more natural scum reaction would be to try and diffuse the Zach wagon by starting another?

[gonnano]

AGM and VRK have little real contact

I don't want to interfere with this interview, but I did want to point out that this is more a VRK point than anything, because VRK hasn't had much real contact with a lot of people.

[Hoopla]

Just give us a few more minutes. I've just got a couple more things I need to get to, gonnano. Good point all the same, though.

[redtail896]

I admit to stretching my AGM suspicion. My other larger suspicion is CA, but that suffers from the point of view of my VRK suspicion. VRK wanted to shift Zach to CA, which makes no sense if they are scumbuddies.

I agree that AGM would've wanted to shift the Zachrulez wagon. It's possible that he simply wrote Zach off, and wanted to pick up town points. I agree that it's a major, possibly debilitating, sticking point. However, what do you think of the other elements of my suspicion?

Preview Edit: This is true. If you think that this is a hole in my anti-VRK slant, then please say so. As I've said, my AGM suspicion is much weaker than my VRK one.

[Hoopla]

So, red. I think it's time for me to admit, I've got ulterior motives for wanting this one-on-one interview. Initially I spruiked the idea of wanting to engage in a conversation, just for the benefit of breaking the routine of endless paragraphs back and forth. But the real reason I've done this, is because I've got information against you, and I didn't want to give you too much time to tailor a response to it and think about all the consequences.

I'm a gunsmith. Now, tell me why you own a gun.

[redtail896]

I don't own a gun.

[redtail896]

I just double checked my role pm. I don't own a gun.

[Hoopla]

Red, you've just thrown away any chance of a fakeclaim if you're scum. That's a shame.

[Hoopla]

VOTE: redtail

[redtail896]

I DON'T OWN A GUN.

Now, my interesting question is why you got a false positive. Because I don't think this is a scum gambit on your part Hoopla; it would be an odd time for one. I can imagine 3 reasons that you got a false gun on me.

1. There exists a bus driver. I find this unlikely; my understanding is that bus drivers are generally considered bastard roles.
2. I'm some sort of gun miller.
3. You're not sane.

I promise you Hoopla, I don't own a gun.

[Hoopla]

Where's gonnano, slap a vote down on red for me, please? I'm not letting scum squirm out of this one.

[gonnano]

Would a mod put a gunsmith in a game with no false positives?
Why did you choose to target redtail?
Also, what night did you target redtail, and who was your other target?

[redtail896]

Hoopla: who else did you investigate?

Preview Edit: Ah, beaten to it.

[Hoopla]

You were my other target gonnano, on N1. You had no gun. I targetted redtail N2, and he had a gun.

The reason I targetted you two was so I could clean up the D1 lynchwagon on Eleran, so I knew how many scum were on it, which would enable me to look for specific tells if I knew how many scum were on it.

[Hoopla]

That was the main reason I had you in my 'confirmed town' list from D2 onward, gonnano. And it was how I was able to predict Zach scum with slightly more accuracy, because I had more information about the D1 wagon than others.

[redtail896]

Do you have a case on me beyond your positive? Because I don't have a gun.

[Hoopla]

Do you know what a gunsmith does, red? And which roles would have guns?

[redtail896]

A gunsmith is a cop, but instead of finding out the role you find out whether or not the person has a gun.

If you got a positive on me, I would be a mafia member, serial killer, or vigilante. A VT, cop, or doc would not have a gun.

Did I miss anything?

[redtail896]

Edit: Oh yeah, cop would probably have a gun.

Doesn't change my answer.

[Hoopla]

Cops have guns - jailkeepers do sometimes too.

[redtail896]

My answer remains unchanged. I don't have a gun.