Mini 1036 - DEFCON Mafia - Over

[Faraday]

Let's get this show on the road.

Already told the mod but I'll be v/la next thursday to sunday for Electric Picnic.

[Faraday]

I don't really care for discussion on how to use our options. Scum will pick what they want anyway and town should be allowed the freedom to make a judgement call on what they think suits them best.

[Faraday]

Auros appears to have it right. I know what I want anyway so etc.

[Faraday]

Does it actually matter how unlikely it is? I can't see a really good reason to discuss it at the moment.

[Faraday]

Nope.

[Faraday]

Not harming doesn't make it helpful btw, it's just pointless discussion to me.

[Faraday]

Nahh let's all twiddle our thumbs until Defcon 3 so we can begin RVS and not use the extra week we had for beneficial non-RVS discussion.

Okay, sounds good.

[Faraday]

I'm suspicious of Faraday - looks to me that he was trying to stifle the discussion without providing anything else to talk about (a'la Doombunny9's latest post).

okay

I don't really agree with percy's lurker point, in practise. In theory it sounds like something scum would do but I know when I'm scum with daytalk it tends to get me to post slightly more than usual. I don't think it takes a lot of effort to keep up with a quicktopic and game thread either. Zhero agreeing with it being scummy is funny though.

[Faraday]

As for "you are engaging in pointless discussion therefore you are scum" line of reasoning, it's crap.

Who are you talking to here? (who's engaging in this line of reasoning?)

[Faraday]

YOU REALLY THINK EVERYONE JUMPED THE GUN THE SECOND DEF4 POPPED UP AND FLOODED WITH LISTS OF CHOICES?
BEFORE IT WAS EVEN REALLY DISCUSSED IN THREAD THE MECHANICS OF ROLES WORKING?!

I think this is pretty likely actually, well not everyone but it'd not surprise me if a lot of people picked their choices as soon as they could.

v/la for 5 days with limited/no access, probably will have some but plan for the worst blah blah blah.

[Faraday]

andrius is confirmed non mafia. cool.

[Faraday]

holy shit, this sub speculation is like 400% absolutely fucking retarded. if scum have it they'll probably just fucking lie.

[Faraday]

so we learn scum have a sub? I don't see how that's particularly helpful.

[Faraday]

Vote Enigma

Elscouta's also likely scum.

[Faraday]

Ridiculous.

- Claiming someone is town without explanation : a classic scum move

stop trolling, please.

- I don't see how someone can not see the benefits of knowing the scum abilities. I'm even pondering a hunt to determine if scum have air base or another scum-like ability, because that would allow us to pseudo-clear people that

don't

have these abilities.

Unvote, Vote: Faraday

yeah I don't think this'll work out in practise though.

[Faraday]

Ridiculous.

- Claiming someone is town without explanation : a classic scum move

stop trolling, please.

Stop using three sentence words, please. And yes, saying "bla is town" is more often heard in scum mouths than in town mouths.

why should I? no it's not.

yeah I don't think this'll work out in practise though.

Backpedalling? I thought it was "OMG TOWN IS SO STUPID TO CLAIM THEY DON'T HAVE SUB"

there's no backpedalling. it IS stupid. it won't work. no backpedal there. three word sentences.

[Faraday]

oops fucked up. well it's readable.

[Faraday]

I'd gladly welcome someone dropping a nuke on Faraday.

Are you trying to encourage a scumbuddy to nuke me or some idiot town here?

And I said Andrius was non scum because...Andrius is non scum obviously! Do you mean why is he non scum? Well I think that's rather obvious - his lack of awareness regarding the choices makes him town, as it reads legit. Scum would be aware they could pick from different groupings.

[Faraday]

Just stating that at this point, given your behaviour AND scuminess, i would be perfectly fine with you being blown to piece.

Oh, I know you would. Gonna have to explain my 'behaviour' though and what's wrong with it that makes me worthy of dying.

[Faraday]

You want explanation? You got it.

Faraday obviously didn't read the first post extensively. If he did, he'd know that, regardless of alignment, we're all given the same info because all the role pm's are in the first post as well as the faction numbers a.k.a. it's an open setup.

I dunno what you mean here, what did I miss? I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm aware it's an 8:3:1 set-up, I'm saying I think if Andrius was scum he'd have been told by his scumbuddies that he could pick from more than one area for his list.

You have been playing the idiot in all your recent posts. Either you are indead a townie wanting to be counterproductive, or a scum trying to give himself a style. I lean towards the second.

I'm 'playing the idiot'? Where the fuck have I done that? And derp @ the second part. I don't even know what a scum trying to give himself a style means in any context whatsoever.

And for the record, I maintain that "X is town" is more often heard in scum mouths than in town mouths (especially without explanation).

you'd be dead wrong then.

[Faraday]

Convenient how you don't acknowledge the posts on the previous page by Faraday on the previous page Zhero at all and as a result you take Elscouta a bit out of context.

Not sure what you mean, no misrep was intended.

there was no mis rep, he's concerned his scumbuddy's going down in flames.

[Faraday]

All 3 of your points are 100% wrong. No need to thank me.

[Faraday]

You wish to continue playing the idiot and try to avoid posting any reasoning whatsoever in your post? I guess you feel this is giving you a better chance to get away than trying to argue...

What exactly am I supposed to ARGUE WITH?

Let's get to your points:

- First, town has no reason to say they believe someone to be town when this person is not attacked(1). It only helps scum to help decide on their nightkills.(2)

(1) WRONG, (2) WRONG. Having a bunch of obv town players helps narrow down scum. Sharing reads in thread is a good idea as it allows voting blocs and narrowing of the suspect pool and other mumbo jumbo. Scum don't need help deciding nightkill. If scum want to take my advice on their nightkill they're probably retarded anyway, so ya know whatever.

never mind this is boring I'm going to watch tv

The indirect defense of Faraday by Hinduragi is noted.

Calling you on your crap logic = defending me. lolk.

[Faraday]

Tell me when this makes sense. Being scum doesn't give you some cosmic understanding of all game mechanics.

You honestlycan't work out why I'd believe that? I find it very hard to believe scum wouldn't have discussed their picks pre-game, assuming competent scum, and given the playerlist there's probably 1 competent scum. Thus they'd have set Andrisu straight.

Kewl no reasoning. I must say you make a very convincing argument.

So? Do you agree or disagree with Elscumta?

Also @Faraday- You missed my question. What is your reasoning behind the Enigma vote/elscou FoS?

I think they're both prob scum. Idk if I fos'd anyone though, I never do that. Elscouta was originally gut but the hole's been dug as we've went on, so to speak

Anyway throwing out town reads is scummy. Think about this:

scum saying scum is town- Allows them to buddy up
scum saying town is town- If the townie gets lynched it makes the scum look more like town whereas if the scum gets lynched then the townie looks more scummy
town saying scum/town is town- Tells the scum who to kill

But like...none of this is actually true. Why would scum want to buddy when so many people see buddying and go OMG SCUMMY. Point 2 is not true, there's no arguing I don't look more town if Andrius flips town and I've never seen someone become more town for predicting a town flip in a game either. Point 3 is also not true, unless you think scum are retarded they'll be able to pick out obv townies themselves. It's not hard.

AH this computer's a piece of shit that can't copy/cut. Going to need to make a series of posts. UGH.

[Faraday]

So it looks like we have done good, we have 2

confirmed

townies now, based on the fact that they failed to read the opening posts properly.

This is correct, glad you spotted it.

Also you completely ignored everything about the Elscouta banbdwagon. Do you've any thoughts on it at all?

[Faraday]

No shit. Why else why'd you be voting them? Stop avoiding the question and tell me why you really think Enigma is scummy.

Maybe later.

Unvote

Enigma is slowly fading out of my scumdar and I'm beginning to notice Faraday and Elscouta a lot more. Will reread later and make up my mind. I also really want to hear from PZ.

'Beginning to notice me a lot more', surely THAT'S NOT accurate is it? You've been going back and forth and calling me scummy for a little bit now.

[Faraday]

Confirmed townie is BS. I'm not calling anyone confirmed unless it's stipulated by the mod. Confirmed status is what make town lose during LYLO. It's a fucking illusion and does more harm to town than good.

What is this I don't even AH.

@Faraday
<STUFF>

Wow, okay but do you think Elscouta's scum at this stage. Yes or no?

[Faraday]

Woops I thought my vote was on elscouta.

Unvote Vote Elscouta

L-1 for those keeping score.

[Faraday]

will post here tomorrow with content.

[Faraday]

i was getting drunk. gonna read now I guess.

[Faraday]

enigma's posts on this page look really town.

[Faraday]

Just realised. Andrius could be feigning ignorance to the rules. He seems to understand the DEFCON issue in that first post, but then seems to misunderstand it in the second. Something to bare in mind about the whole "ability picking" issue. Faraday, what do you make of that, seeing as Andrius' ignorance of the rules was your main reason for finding him townie.

Meant to respond to this ages ago. It doesn't really change my mind, as I think everyone understood the DEFCON issue as it's really clear in the OP even on skimming alone. Actually the recent Andy claim thing makes me go back and think of something though so let me brb and see if that goes anywhere.

[Faraday]

DONT SAY IF YOU TRIED FOR THE SUB OR NOT. ONLY SAY IF YOU HAVE IT OR NOT.
BY SAYING YOU TRIED/ DIDNT TRY THE SCUM WILL KNOW IF YOU HAVE OFFENSIVE/DEFENSIVE TROOPS AND THE ROLES YOU COULD HAVE DUE TO THAT.

Just wanted to make that clear. lol

I still think this looks pretty genuine.

[Faraday]

I'm up for a massclaim. Outing PR's in this game isn't a massive concern of mine, actually.

[Faraday]

SpyreX is making me nervous. He's not obvtown like usual. THIS BETTER NOT BE ANOTHER RAPTURE MAFIA.

Vote Zhero

[Faraday]

This whole thing is stupid and should probably be ignored. It doesn't make Zhero and more or less scummy, really. It looks like a fake attempt to frame, rather than a framing attempt imo but really it's choc full of WIFOM, and of the useless variety this time.

[Faraday]

No, it's WIFOM. I didn't assume it was you at all....? So okay.

[Faraday]

Yea I sure did because WATCHING SOMEONE DIE OR BEING THE COP are the pieces of information that = scum.

Yeah, I can see what SPyreX is on about here. It's awful bizzare but I really don't think it's any indication that calcifier is scum. Spyre what do you think Andyscum gains by coming out with that sort of information when it was clearly not incriminating at this point? If he knows Enigma's got an active power/power role why bother outing it as scum? That's why I think his motivations don't make sense as scum.

Zhero's mostly gut for now, I don't really like his reaction to that faked message either.

I'm reasonably happy with Av/Enigma/Calci atm for town. Percy looks pretty town too although I don't know why he doesn't think Socio can be scum? Any reason apart from the message thing?

I need to look at Doombunny and red who I've largely ignored up untill now do to being in too many games.

[Faraday]

Never mind doombunny just changed his avatar, that explains why I'd not remembered anything from him.

[Faraday]

You know, RayFrost explained that "tech" thing to me, and I still didn't get it.

Hindu's trying to pin me for being inconsistent, but the bigger point is that he's made a playstyle shift from leading to being passive. He says because he was writing a paper, and that may be true, but I'd like to see more from him than just reacting. Percy doesn't see this, but I do. It's a big deal. Say what you will about Doombunny, but he's unchanged from D1 to D2. I honestly would've expected Hindu to see my vote, say, "Ah, yeah, sorry guys. I've been a little busy. What's with this here? Why did you do this? X doesn't sound right", instead of, "WOW I'm voted for lurking?!", implying I was somehow wrong with my expectations.

That's way too defensive, and it doesn't sound like Hindu from D1. That's all I'm saying. Am I really the only one who sees this?

No, but look at my play. It's pretty much the same deali-o. I don't really see it as something scum are more likely to do knowing it happens to me quite a lot in games so yeah.

I'm really trying to sink my teeth into something here.

[Faraday]

No, but look at my play. It's pretty much the same deali-o.

Do you think I'm satisfied with that? A man only has one vote.

This is weird, have you mentioned it in relation to me? I mean, you've got one vote but you can type as much or as little as you like.

[Faraday]

Yeah, I don't think there's any way Enigma has the case he says he does.

Unvote. Vote: Enigma

What do you think of Percy's 464 then?

I've no real idea what Enigma/Percy are dancing around, I'm sure it'll come out eventually if needed. Still pretty happy with my Zhero vote who looks like scum and all that.

[Faraday]

Barring a counterclaim I believe Percy I think. Let me read over the leaked messages again though.

[Faraday]

I think Percy's probably the eavesdropper alright, I guess he'd be smart enough to fake it as scum but his messages line up pretty well with what he's said and who's he's sort of suspected in the game I think.

I'm not 100% as convinced as to the validity of the messages as him on some of them but still.

[Faraday]

see sig, biotches and mod.

[Faraday]

Oh, nice hammer. I think RedCoyote's scum here, Zhero too.

[Faraday]

vote redcoyote

I'm a trusting MASTER SPYREX

[Faraday]

anyone not voting for RED is scum. Hammer this son of a bitch as quick as possible.

[Faraday]

Percy Zhero RedCoyote
Kthx.

seems exceedingly plausible.

[Faraday]

Knowing Spyrex, he likely didn't invest Percy because he "knew" he was scum (either that or, the more obvious answer, he

is

scum). I don't play that game. We lynch for sure scum, and it doesn't get more cut-and-dry than Percy right now. I'm really not prepared to straight up call Spyrex scum though. Based on his play so far, and how I know him, I'm really thinking this is possibly a gambit.

No, knowing SpyreX this really isn't the case at all. Trying to play it off as a gambit is lol.

[Faraday]

town:
enigma
calcifier
SPYREX
FARADAY

Hindu reads kinda town, and we know RC is scum. Zhero's also prob scum. So yeah.

[Faraday]

we don't need to get the full massclaim done do we? let's just kill red.

[Faraday]

Hinduragi's prob town.

I'm the failsafe, I didn't want to claim yesterday as I saw that red had claimed failsafe and wasn't sure why so I thought it best to avoid claiming. this was also why I wanted him dead.

Not sure if we should nuke or not, thinking lynching zhero who's prob scum here is the best way to go.

[Faraday]

vote zhero

[Faraday]

Not seeing Hinduragi as scum with Red. Iirc red attacked him for a change in playstyle from days 1 --> day 2. I think from my point of view he could have pushed this on me more if he was scum with hindu as I was arguably guilty of the same thing (not really arguable actually)

Why failsafe? I wanted a sub, and was mistakenly under the impression I needed all troop types the one, so all passive. Failsafe seemed the most useful after Sub. Eavesdrop is something I'd not find any use for and the other one...eh? I dunno what it is, but I thought failsafe was better.

[Faraday]

No big admit to being stupid like me.
Called me not mafia though.

Oh no I didn't call myself stupid.


Which head posted the above though?

[Faraday]

Vote: Faraday

Getting failsafe is a scumtell. Scum would love that sub. Failsafe is awesome as second place. I'm not buying the excuses.

What 'excuses'. I didn't make any, I was asked why I chose it? Are you unable to read or something?

And saying getting failsafe is a scumtell is highly moronic.

[Faraday]

I think we should see who wants to lynch who at this point. I'm down for Zhero. Im down for a possible Socio or Percy one, but only with if it has a decent case.

Faraday, I thought you called Andrius town for thinking there was only one type of troop deployment?

yeah, I did. I still think that's the case. I think you're town too as said.

It's 2 from [Zhero/Percy/Sociopath] to me.

[Faraday]

I'm down for nuking Socio after that excellent D4 case. I want to hear from Calcifer and Faraday about this, though.

I find his vote on you odd, it's like he's ignoring red's flip. I'd not be against it, although I'd prefer you to nuke Zhero at this time.

[Faraday]

Faraday's play lately has been making me antsy. He makes sure to claim until he's the last claim, and conveniently after the fighter's dead. I'm not sure I trust the fail safe claim. He apparently wanted sub first, but still put fail safe prioritized over a missile silo, so he wanted the sub specifically for its stealth shot, a largely anti-town feature.

Oh god, stop playing dense. Keeping scum away from sub was a huge priority and everyone should have had it as their number 1. But yeah, you can't see that, I just chose it cos i wanted a stealth shot lolsorandum. Already explained why Misile Silo wasn't chosen, which you either ignored or misread (possibly latter due to the following)

He then chooses to not counter-claim Red. It just doesn't seem to add up for me.

Yeah I definitely did back red coyote up after he claimed my role and never tried to get him lynched asap (lol). I'd no idea why he claimed failsafe, wasn't prepared to ask so decided let's kill him and see what his game is.

He's commented over and over that I'm 'prob-scum', but suddenly I'm equally likely alongside someone he's never really commented on at all and someone he had a good town read on a couple days ago. Faraday, what changed your mind on Percy?

A WILD WHAT THE FUCK APPEARS.
I've already indicated I'd prefer you nuked over Socio, in fact you're my first choice. Where is ya getting that you're equally likely from?
Percy's POE scum, I don't see hindu and calcifier as scum at all, so there's a greater chance it's Percy.

[Faraday]

Zhero can almost certainly be ruled out due to blocking Sociopath. I'm thinking Faraday is scum with Sociopath.

Firstly, not claiming yesterday. The only reason he did that was because he didn't want to counterclaim Red, which still doesn't make sense to me.

His comments on SocioPath today: just enough to say that he prefers Zhero. Before today has just been calling me out for calling Sociopath not scum - at the time, I was working on the Doombunny scum theory, which made Sociopath a scumbuddy almost impossible, and I don't know why he didn't see that. And apart from that, there has been absolutely zero interaction between Sociopath and Faraday.

Finally, look at this dropped message that I decoded earlier:

ae bpoypd pw fsv pnzcc/jaaidec. ow insxhnz nsxe dae ew lrbtpi cjxixelrhaxmow inh tuwktyetrwn ew pxasmfln mxgipc ehir dnkihmnp tekmbrtixc oo bhi qebaaki sx bhex txen les ww liedb qf xlib qs piatmd

WE SHOULD GO FOR PERCY/FARADAY. ON ANOTHER NOTE USE AS LITTLE CAPITALIZATION AND PUNCTUATION AS POSSIBLE EXCEPT WHEN DECIDING LEGIBILITY OF THE MESSAGE SO THAT TOWN HAS NO LEADS IF THIS IS LEAKED

The entire reason I was able to decode this message was because of the punctuation in this message! In particular, I thought the slash was a separator between names, which made jaaidec = faraday straight away. After that, I determined that pnzcc = percy rather than zhero, and I cracked the whole message. Something tells me that the scum wanted me to find this, and that suggests that it was Faraday who wrote it.

When the nuke hits and Sociopath flips scum (which I think is almost certain now), I'm going to be voting Faraday, as it stands.

well your theory that I wrote that is pretty obviously false (check the spelling of capitili

s

ation) for one. as for why I didn't catch your socio/doom thing, well it was because I was skimming.

[Faraday]

Zhero can almost certainly be ruled out due to blocking Sociopath. I'm thinking Faraday is scum with Sociopath.

Firstly, not claiming yesterday. The only reason he did that was because he didn't want to counterclaim Red, which still doesn't make sense to me.

His comments on SocioPath today: just enough to say that he prefers Zhero. Before today has just been calling me out for calling Sociopath not scum - at the time, I was working on the Doombunny scum theory, which made Sociopath a scumbuddy almost impossible, and I don't know why he didn't see that. And apart from that, there has been absolutely zero interaction between Sociopath and Faraday.

hardly 'calling you out' I asked why you'd place him as non mafia specifically and just thought it an odd comment to mention him specifically as non mafia. the question is since socio's prob scum now (bah post) would percyscum go out of his way to call his scumbuddy non mafia? not sure and it'll probably be something I won't have to decide anyway.
I'm still leaning as zhero to be more likely scumbuddy than Percy. the blocking doesn't prove a lot, yeah they could have got a nuke off but who could socio of nuked that would have made that much difference? calcifier? unlikely, he'd be pretty obv scum, percy? then it's pretty obv zhero/socio for the lynch.

I think Zhero/Socio or the scum, hell maybe that earlier message was actually real. (want to read red's reaction to it again) and he blocked socio to set himself up for an easyish ride to endgame.

[Faraday]

yeah that's my madf conspiricayt theory for the day, I'm the most likely to be lynched from here it seems so i'll put it out there.

[Faraday]

BECAUSE THIS WOULD LOOK MORE OSHIT THEY'RE NEVER SCUM TOGETHER AFTER THAT kinda thing, whereas socio nuking you is less OH SHIT THEY'D NEVER DO THIS AS SCUM TOGETHER, to me.

Why is it unnerving? VV's posted shit like 'GETTING A FAILSAFE IS A SCUMTELL' doesn't stuff like that unnerve you? make you feel all creepy?
The being certain of alignment part is weak too.

[Faraday]

'on the nose' what does that mean?

[Faraday]

Well the fact my claim is untestable isn't a big deal is it? I mean if I had a nuke I'd have used it by now, saving it till LYLO as scum is all well and good but if you don't make it to LYLO. Add to that the fact I was considered pro town by nearly everyone and I'm wondering why you'd think I'd pull this gambit as scum? There doesn't seem to be any motivation for scumme to do any of this that I can see apart from the hope of an easy LYLO...? But I think I could have easily nuked either zhero or you today as scum anyway, setting up a 1/1 against the other which I think I could win.

[Faraday]

But you're alread apparently smoking out scum through POE. Jesus christ.

[Faraday]

HERP DERP HE'S SO TOWN LET'S LOLLYNCH HIM. FUcking hell I can't decide between Percy and Zhero.

[Faraday]

Vote Zhero

it's quite obviously either him or Percy. I won't be voting for anyone else.

[Faraday]

Bleh Percy makes more sense logically I guess, but It'd not surprise me for socio to rage @ zhero in the quicktopic either.

[Faraday]

Bah, fuck. I'll go over the damn game after the night. Percy, if you are Town this is ridiculous. You are letting obvscum Faraday get away. He is flailing and using bad conspiracy theories because he simply does not have a choice! This is ridiculous.

Stop being a fucking moron for a second. Calling me 'obvscum' is patently absolutely fucktarded (at best). Can we get andrius back posting plz.

Why have you dismissed Percy again as scum? Also post in the fucking hydra account for ISO purpose.

[Faraday]

i'm so fucking confused by that kill.

[Faraday]

Why would I possibly kill percy who was 100% convinced you were scum and going to vote you out of the gate?

[Faraday]

You THINK? YOu called me me obvscum yesterday, what changed? (well apart from the fact that, ya know there's only 3 of us left now)

[Faraday]

v.la untill tuesday. sorry bankholiday weekend + no net = getting trrashed.

[Faraday]

where the fuck is everyone? vv's been onsite at least

[Faraday]

Calcifier is obviously the nuke for today, to suggest anything else is stupid. He's also probably the best shot at scum, I think he's more likely than hindu at any rate. I genuone;ly think it's pretty fucking obvious I'm town here, the far and away best game for me involved Percy and Calcifier. Yes it's WIFOM but it's also pretty common sense.

I'd really love to nuke calcifier/lynch hindu right before the nuke hits to guarantee a win beyond all reasonable doubt.

You also seem to have changed your mind since 761 Vuvuzela. Wut?

[Faraday]

I THOUGHT THIS WASN'T A TIME FOR NUKES? WHAT CHANGED?

It's also far from a classic Lylo situation, we effectively have two bites at the cherry, if we go with my plan I don't have to decide which of you is scum which makes it far easier for me. Of course it relies on me being town, which you seem to have been gone from OBV SCUM -> EH MAYBE HE'S LEGIT-> Leaning scum all in the space of ONE FUCKING PAGE.

Anyway wanna hear from HINDU.

[Faraday]

I thought you were both fucking town, but was apparently wrong. He's got a better chance of being town than you I think, but there's not really a lot in it. I don't know. I want to re-read but don't have time, when's deadline?

[Faraday]

*throws Faraday scumtheory out the window* Unless Faraday is PARANOIDZ and thought Percy was lying about his "vote out of gate" strategy and rather stick to HINDU who had a more geniune "Faraday strong town read" being his votin buddy in LyLo.

Except leaving a nuke alive in LYLO gives the town 2 bites at the cherry as I've already said, a lynch on me and a nuke on whoever. It's just bad play for anyone but Hindu to leave Hindu alive, which is the only real reason I'm hesitating. Percy's town read was obviously pretty real (he unvoted me just previously).

Making a case is pointless, Calcifier should be nuked REGARDLESS. Then either you/me are quicklynched to give a better chance of victory. I'd prefer that to be you due to LOL KNOWING MY PM, but I doubt either you or calcifier are going to agree.

[Faraday]

YOU FUCKING IDIOTS WHY DID YOU VOTE IMMEDIATELY. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST.

GG TOWN LOSS, SPASTICS.

[Faraday]

and of course fate is lying idiots, he claims scum after town hammers and vice versa.

[Faraday]

Yes we are!

I just don't see a scum team getting three nukes. RCsub + Socio Hindu with nukes? It was...unlikely. @.@.

You town too, right?

OH MY FUCKING GOD.

[Faraday]

WHY WOULD IT BE UNLIKELY, + THEY DIDN'T ONE OF THEM HAD A FUCKING SUB.

[Faraday]

Though I did consider voting you, Fate, as soon as you replaced in.

WE WOULD HAVE WON THIS IF YOU'D DONE THAT, BUT NO.


NO YOU HAD TO HAVE A HYDRA.

AND IT HAD TO BE VV.

WHO FLIP FLOPPED ON STUFF MORE TIMES THAN A DYING FISH.

[Faraday]

oh fucking seriously though why would you vote for me. there was absolutely no reason for me to engineer such an endgame and it was painfully obvious that there was no reason too.

[Faraday]

What are your chances of getting to Australia? There's a chance I might go for a week or so in the summer...

i hope he gets anal probed at the fucking airport.

[Faraday]

VOTE HINDUFUCKINGRAGINAKAFATE

[Faraday]

FARADAY - WHY WOULD I KILL PERCY?
CALCIFIER- WIFOM
FARADAY - YES BUT FUCKING WHY IT MAKES NO SENSE
VV- TOO LAZY TO CHANGE ACCOUNTS BUT WIFOM
ANDRIUS - LET'S VOTE FARADAY
FATE - KEKEKEKE I'M SO MAD AND RANDOM SURE YOU GUYS ARE SCUM IGNORE MY DEVIOUS PLAN
VV- TOO LAZY TO CHANGE ACCOUNTS - VOTE FARADAY
FARADAY - ASS.

[Faraday]

anyway thanks for the game agm, it was fun, although I should have picked nuke in hindsight but w/e. I could have played a lot better, especially day 2 but yeah. ANYWAY NEXT TIME DON'T FUCKING VOTE FOR ME VV.

god damn it should have know that town tell was stronger than nuking scum, so yeah I'LL TAKE BLAME TOO.

[Faraday]

Blah Hindu and the scum team in general played pretty well. I was pretty convinced Els was scum day 1 too.

Sorry, my play could probs have been better but I've been playing poorly in general lately, so it's not unexpected. Probably need to take a break.

Also this would make a fucking great large theme wouldn't it? More people would be guaranteed nukes

have to say, great modding and flavour much love to AGM.

[Faraday]

[quote="Percy"

I don't think there was any real bad play here.

Elscouta not claiming doc was bad. Andrius' claim was bad. The last day's showing from town was bad. But Enigma's attitude was the worst. I'm actually really glad that you decided to nuke Enigma...
[/quote]
Yeah I wasn't around a lot, I don't think it mattered, there was nothing I'd have been able to say to convince the VV half of the hydra to not vote me anyway.