Mini 1000: The Brave and the Beautiful (Game Over)


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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:46 am

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@SSBF-
That's fine, but we are running close to deadline so please make sure to answer the questions (and check your PMs) tonight.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:08 am

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Deadline is tomorrow. If Iec doesn't make a decision by tomorrow morning, I will switch to Fur to prevent a no lynch.
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 5:13 am

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It's not until tomorrow night. There's no reason to rush.

I want SSBF to go on record about that PM before anyone is lynched. It's a serious issue.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:02 am

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@Iec-
We can wait til SSBF answers, assuming he actually answers tonight. If he goes MIA, what then?

@Kdub-
Your post essentially tells SSBF that he can just stall to save MoI.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:10 am

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If he fails to answer, he will get -like points. It has relatively little to do with MoI/Fur at this point, if that's what you're asking.
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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:15 am

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@Iec-
Actually it ties directly with my point to Kdub. SSBF obviously wants MoI to live regardless of whether his PMs say there was a night kill attempt or not. At this point, he can simply stall, and thereby get what he wants.
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:17 am

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I mean, SSBF's information about the PM will not affect my personal decision in a significant way.

I will make a decision before deadline. 100%.
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:59 am

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My access is somewhat spotty for the first half of this week, so I'm not sure I will be able to check in after tomorrow morning and before the deadline. Obviously if Iec allows a no-lynch to happen, major scum points to him.
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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:38 pm

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@Kast: Let me just say that I am not stalling in answering your question. School, homework, plus having to focus on other games to avoid prod of them prevented me from answering your question earlier. Anyway:
Kast wrote:Hold up, you said that SaintKerrigan confirmed that Spyrex died due to Netopalis. Where & when did SaintKerrigan confirm that?
I am referring to where MagnaofIllusion where he confirmed via PM that a kill attempt on Netopalis would kill the Grapple Beam Target as well.
Kast wrote:-If your mod PM confirms that a (failed) kill was made on you, do you agree that is proof that Shotty/Kast was not lying?
Granted, I do think that there is a chance that you are lying, but the PM did state that there was an attempt on a kill on me. You could be telling the truth, which is one of the reasons why I want Furcolow lynched over you today.

I won't be able to get to your thought exercises tonight. Hopefully I can get to them tomorrow evening before the day ends. Regardless, if Ieceint hasn't hammered by tomorrow Night, I will be around and I will hammer MagnaofIllusion as a lynch is better then nothing.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:42 pm

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The Brave and the Beautiful - Vote Count 4.15


Furcolow [3] - bv310, Super Smash Bros. Fan, MagnaofIllusion
MagnaofIllusion [3] - Kast, Furcolow, Kdub

Not Voting [1] - Iecerint


With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.

The deadline is Wednesday, August 25 at 9:30 pm EDT.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 6:12 pm

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I'm pretty sure exactly one of Furc/MoI is scum. I suppose we won't know for sure for some time, but all the same --

Vote: MoI


This has gone on long enough.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:26 pm

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The Brave and the Beautiful - Final Vote Count of Day 4


MagnaofIllusion [4] - Kast, Furcolow, Kdub, Iecerint
Furcolow [3] - bv310, Super Smash Bros. Fan, MagnaofIllusion


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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Tue Aug 24, 2010 7:27 pm

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You'd all been arguing and shouting and pointing fingers at one another for the greater portion of the day, and some of the same points were being re-hashed over and over as faces grew red, fists were clenched, and beads of sweat broke out on the dissenters' foreheads. As the afternoon stretched into the evening, the ferocity of the argument dwindled somewhat, but neither side would budge on their argument, claiming that it was obvious that the other was lying through their teeth. And as the evening drew to a close, Iecerint decided that it'd been long enough. She put her hand in front of Kast's yelling face and pulled out a knife, holding it grimly next to her thigh. Looking fatigued yet still cautious, Iecerint stared MagnaofIllusion directly in the eye, and spoke coldly and calmly.

"Look. We all know you're scum. You've been stealing our stuff at night, keeping us from protecting ourselves, causing problems for all of us, and then lying on top of it. It seems pretty obvious that you're the one who needs to take a step back and shut up."

With a guffaw of disbelief, MagnaofIllusion steps forward and raises her voice yet again, this time to a different target, but with the same tone of incredulity and disgust, almost as if she's grown too tired of the infighting to handle it any more. But her words are scathing and raw, and... that look in her eyes is unmistakable.

"Listen, missy. You've let everyone else do your talking for you all day, and you've sat back and let others fight your battles for you. There's no way I'm gonna listen to you now, after I've already answered all your questions and listed to all the crap you've been talking about me all day. If you're gonna bring violence into it, then put your money where your mouth is."

And she took a menacing step towards Iecerint, who flinched and raised her knife to a combat stance, wary of an advance by MagnaofIllusion. At this sudden exchange, Kdub immediately jumped in the middle to try to settle things down.

"Wait, you guys," she said calmly, "look over there at bv310. She's barely said a word the whole time, and even now she's just waiting and watching to see what'll happen."

"That's not true!" interjected bv310 hotly, "I could say the same about you or Iecerint! Both of you have just been injecting comments wherever you think they'll do the most damage, but without taking a solid stance either way! You've never spoken out adamantly against your targets, you've just followed the crowd and tried not to look like you're making any waves!"

"
Excuse
me?!!" retorted Super Smash Bros Fan. "You've
got
to be kidding me!
You're
the one who's been doing exactly what you've just claimed that Kdub and Iecerint been doing! And you!" -she turns to Furcolow- "You've been doing nothing but pointing fingers all over the place and hoping anything sticks! Maybe you didn't notice: I'm actually trying to be
useful
here! It's not MY fault that Muffin got transferred abruptly and I had to fill in for her! I'm just doing what I know, and what I know is that you're all full of it."

"Well, somebody's gotta die," said Furcolow suddenly, "...and quick. And by the looks of things, it's not gonna be me, it's gonna be Magna."

"Oh yeah, says who?" MagnaofIllusion shot back sharply. The group was silent for a second, and MagnaofIllusion turned around slowly to look at all of them in turn, eyes ablaze with frustration and fury. The moment of silence lingered for more than a few seconds, and if one listened closely they could hear the wind from outside whipping around the base's power turbines. And then Magna felt a movement behind her.

"Says me." said Iecerint coldly, and without another word, plunged the knife directly into Magna's back. She twisted the knife viciously, and then removed it with a sneer, watching for Magna's traumatized reaction. As Magna slowly stumbled while turning around, Iecerint brought the knife down again, this time directly into Magna's chest.

An explosion of pain registered in MagnaofIllusion's brain, and she grunted and choked as bright flecks of blood flew out of her mouth. A gasp could be heard from the group of onlookers. Magna staggered first one way, then another, grasping anything she could reach, trying to find something, anything, a lifeline to keep her from slipping away. But she fell to the rusted chrome-plating of the floor, and in only seconds, the light had left her once-piercing green eyes. Her blonde hair framed her fair complexion in a manner that hushed all who saw her life slip away.


Nobody wanted to be the first to speak. But Iecerint broke the silence.

"Somebody go find her dog tags." she commanded.

A few minutes later, one of the girls returned from MagnaofIllusion's quarters.
She held out the shiny metal tags so that you could all see the engraving.





MagnaofIllusion, Rikku, has been destroyed.

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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:56 pm

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In the middle of the night, a console back in the server room buzzed to life yet again. This time it was it was not just the results of the query that had been running. No, the computer's user had been far busier than just checking out one person's background. They were investigating a number of people simultaneously.

Apparently, whoever had been using this terminal previously had been cut off right in the middle of a transaction, and had never been able to come back to the machine to finish her investigative work. The things that she'd been busy finding out were of utmost importance to her allies and herself. But she hadn't known who her allies were, and was thus trying to find out by drawing on the vast network of resources across the universe, and by calling in favors from her contacts throughout this galaxy and the next. And she had been chatting with one at the moment that she was drawn away, and had left the conversation unfinished.

A window popped up on the screen, showing a galactic relay chat session still active. If one were to scroll up, one could find out that the conversation had been quite long and informative at first, but since a certain point three nights ago, had become strangely one-sided.


Galactic Relay Chat: session_id 1085718239063476

[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
Hey, Cortana, you there?

[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
I'm still wondering where you disappeared to a few days ago...


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
You randomly signed back onto galactic relay chat a couple days ago, but when I tried talking to you, I couldn't get a response, are you alright? I haven't heard a peep.


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
Anyway, my symbiont has to go off-planet for a few tetracycles, and I obviously have to tag along, so before I go, I figured I'd just dump some of the info you asked for in the window so you can get it when you get back..


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
Sorry if you have any questions about any of this, I've got to leave in a few so I have to be quick.


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
As far as I can tell from sniffing the info-networks, nobody's picked up on your SpyreX disguise yet. I know that with you being programmed for
good
and all that you don't really need a disguise, but I figured maybe somebody on the wrong side would find you out. They'd probably want to make you pay for that data heist you pulled on Archaeis Prime a few megacycles ago... and with the amount of bounty hunters flying around these days, you can never be too safe.


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
And speaking of bounty hunters, that one you asked me to check up on, Samus Aran, well, she's on your side, for the most part. But I have inside info that says she's hell-bent on fulfilling a contract on you, and you know what that means! Be on your guard.


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
Lastly, I couldn't really find much info on that martial artist you asked me to look up; Chun Li. She doesn't seem to be very well known on a large scale in this galaxy, and though I could trace her back to Earth, pretty much the only real data I could find was that her father had been murdered by the Shadaloo Corporation, and that she's been hunting down their leader for years to get even. Heck if I know what she's doing on that godforsaken rock that you're on at the moment, but she's there alright. I'll do what I can to find out more about her for you.


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
Anyway, my host is about to board the spaceship, so I have to disconnect from the Extranet for now. I'll talk you when I get back, if you're still there. Do you know when you're coming back here, or is your mission there still going to take a while yet?


[AI:Galax0r:id4625234]
Anyway, I sure hope you're alright. I'd hate to lose another AI like you, you're one of the best I've ever worked with.


And with that, the galactic relay chat window announced the departure of the one who had been sending messages to a friend whose existence had long since been snuffed out. A few minutes later, the screen saver activated, an antiquated version from Earth had always been Cortana's favorite: a never-ending starfield rushing past the screen. Pixelated and choppy, to be sure; but always evoking the feeling of space travel, of the vast sense of true freedom, which nobody can know until her feet have left the ground far behind.

And free she was. Free from pain, free from guilt, and free from any form of sorrow she might have experienced in lamenting over the ill-timed loss of her already short 'life', if you could call it that. One might argue that true life is not something she'd ever had, so how could she have lost it? But the other would say that at the very least, she was now free from from experiencing whatever the equivalent of such feelings might have been, if she had been able to have them... and that, at least, was a comforting thought.

But after a scant few hours of inactivity, the screen of the terminal hidden deep in the endless server rooms went black, never to be reawakened.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:27 pm

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Unfortunately I have been swamped this weekend, and am going to have to extend the deadline by at least another day.

Apologies to all.

Night 4 will end Monday, August 30th at 11:30pm ET.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:25 pm

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You wake in the morning, and are shocked to find two of you dead! Your stomach feels weak as you witness the gruesome scene which greets you in the morning. A preliminary search of their personal effects does reveal their identification tags, but not much more than that. You shudder as you wonder if you'll live to find out who they
really
were.


Kdub, Morrigan Aensland, has been shot.

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bv310, Alyx Vance, has been scratched and torn to death.

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It is now Day 5. The deadline is September 21st at 11:30pm EDT.
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"Take me to Pleasure Town!" "Look, the most Glorious Rainbow Ever!" "Do me on it!" -

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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:38 am

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Wait a minute, two kills Night 4? Unless there's a second scum faction, which is very unlikely, Kast has to be lying about having only two shots, Night 1 on Netopalis, Night 2 on Muffin/me. Now Night 4 comes around and bv310 and Kdub are dead on the same Night. I don't see a Vigilante lying about his two-shot kill ability.

Given that there are four players left in the game, I know I'm town, Iecerint is probably town, Kast could be town, but I'm leaning SK, but I still think Furcolow is scum.

Will give out role information later. School is starting in about a hour and I don't have much time to waste to get there. I'll vote later as well.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:26 am

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I'll claim last.

Kast -> Furco -> SSBF -> Iec

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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:06 am

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Several thoughts to follow as well as a post I wanted to put up at end of last day phase (did not expect Iecerint to make up his mind).

Kast's thoughts from end of D4 wrote:Hey guys. I took the lull in posting as time to think back on this game and here's some stuff that occurred to me:
-Whoever is roleblocking townies is probably ALSO responsible for framing Robocopter.
-This game is actually extremely similar to Avatar Mafia. I think I'm making the same mistake here that I did there (not accounting for mafia lack of info).
Spoiler: ASSUMING MoI IS LYING:
Millar13
Queen of Blades
P. Appears as Sarah Kerrigan on death (ie. Death GF).
A.D. Vote threshold of all players reduced by 1.
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Netopalis
Samus Aran
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SpyreX
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A/P. Learns how many scum were on the lynch wagon. (Exact details unknown; claimed by MoI and similar ability hinted by SpyreX)
A.N.1T. Delayed Coroner (Kast's speculation)
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Robocopter
Chun Li
P. Vote threshold increased by 1.
A.N.1T. Vote threshold of target is increased by 1.
A.N.?T. Negative effect (unclaimed).
Ythan
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P. Beloved Princess

BV310
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A.N.1T. (unclaimed-hinted non-watcher).
A.N.1T. (unclaimed-hinted watcher).
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Furcolow
Tanya Adams
A.N.1T.2S. Role cop
A.N. Commuter (unclaimed-hinted modified)
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Iecerint
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A.N.1T.?S. Tracker
A.N.1T.?S. Watcher
A.N.1T.?S. Doctor
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Kdub
?
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MagnaOfIllusion
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A.N.1T. Learn primary ability of target player. Use target player's primary ability. Jailkeep target player.
A.N.1T. Neighborize target player.
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Super Smash Bros. Fan
Lara Croft
A.N.1T. Affiliation Cop
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Kast
Ashley Williams
A.N.1T.2S Vigilante kill with kill flavor of “Shot”

Abilities
D1:
Millar (A) uses Zerg Rush to reduce vote threshold by 1.
Netopalis nothing.
SpyreX (A/P) may have used his # of scum on the wagon ability.
Robocopter (P) demonstrates Passive Vote Threshold ability.
Ythan nothing.
BV310 nothing.
Furcolow nothing.
Iecerint nothing.
Kdub nothing.
MagnaOfIllusion nothing.
Super Smash Bros. Fan nothing.
Kast nothing.

N1:
Netopalis ??? (unclaimed)
SpyreX (A/P) may have used his # of scum on the wagon ability. (A) May have used Coroner on Millar13.
Robocopter (A) uses Negative Ability on Furcolow.
Ythan nothing.
BV310 (A) uses ??? (hinted tracker) on Furcolow.
Furcolow (A) Rolecops ???
Iecerint (A) Tracks Ythan.
Kdub ??? (unclaimed)
MagnaOfIllusion (A) Steals Furcolow's Rolecop. (A) Uses Rolecop on SpyreX.
Super Smash Bros. Fan (A) Investigates Robocopter.
Kast (A) Kills Netopalis.
??? (A) Mafia Kill SpyreX.

D2:
Robocopter nothing.
Ythan nothing.
BV310 nothing.
Furcolow nothing.
Iecerint nothing.
Kdub nothing.
MagnaOfIllusion nothing.
Super Smash Bros. Fan nothing.
Kast nothing.

N2:
Ythan nothing.
BV310 (A) uses ??? (hinted watcher) on Kast.
Furcolow (A) Rolecops ???
Iecerint (A) Watches MoI.
Kdub ??? (unclaimed)
MagnaOfIllusion (A) Steals Super Smash Bros. Fan's Cop. (A) Uses Cop on BV310.
Super Smash Bros. Fan (A) Investigates MagnaOfIllusion.
Kast (A) Kills Muffin.
??? (A) Mafia Kill Ythan with kill flavor “Scratched & Torn”.

N3:
BV310 ???
Furcolow (A) Commutes.
Iecerint (A) Docs MoI.
Kdub ??? (unclaimed)
MagnaOfIllusion (A) Neighborizes BV310.
Super Smash Bros. Fan (A) Investigates MagnaOfIllusion.
Kast nothing.

Possibly due to RC's love of flavor, possibly due to the limited reveals of the game, RC has done private flavor confirmations for multiple player abilities (not necessarily names, but confirmations that things happened).
D1- Mod essentially publicly confirmed both the Zerg Rush and Chun Li's immunity.
N1- Mod publicly confirms SpyreX's and Netopalis' deaths. Mod privately confirms Iecerint's visit to Ythan. Mod privately confirms MoI's Rbing Fur to BV.
N2- Mod publicly confirms Ythan's death. Mod privately confirms Kast's attempted kill to SSBF. Mod privately confirms ??? framing of SSBF's investigation to Kast. Mod privately confirms BV's ??? (hinted watching) to Kast. Mod privately confirms activity regarding either MoI OR BV to MoI (probably Iecerint's watching). Mod privately confirms MoI's Rbing to SSBF.
N3- Mod publicly confirms no deaths. Mod privately confirms MoI's Neighborizer to BV. Mod privately confirms ??? failed kill on MoI to Iecerint.

What this suggests:
MoI is lying scum with probable partner Kdub. Kdub is likely the roleblocker. One of them probably has “Destroyed” kill flavor and the other has “Scratched and Torn” kill flavor.

Where this breaks down:
Successful doctor flavor to Iecerint.
Fur never claimed any targets. Also based on reflection of Avatar Mafia, I realized mafia NEED a full, not obvious rolecop in no reveal format.
Also, why the hell would mafia try to NK Fur?
nvm that's obvious, RB muffin kill fur both cops gone.
Dual RB on scum team seems too powerful.
Spoiler: ASSUMING MoI is telling the truth:
Millar13
Queen of Blades
P. Appears as Sarah Kerrigan on death (ie. Death GF).
A.D. Vote threshold of all players reduced by 1.
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Netopalis
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A.N.1T. Target player is cannot be targeted by other abilities or effects. In addition, all non-kill abilities targeting the user will be copied to the target. If the user is killed, the target also dies with kill flavor “Destroyed”. (Exact details unknown; claimed by MoI)
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SpyreX
Cortana
A/P. Learns how many scum were on the lynch wagon. (Exact details unknown; claimed by MoI)
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Robocopter
Chun Li
P. Vote threshold increased by 1.
A.N.1T. Vote threshold of target is increased by 1.
A.N.?T. Negative effect (unclaimed).
Ythan
Princess Peach
P. Beloved Princess

BV310
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A.N.1T. (unclaimed-hinted non-watcher).
A.N.1T. (unclaimed-hinted watcher).
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Furcolow
Tanya Adams
A.N.1T.2S. Role cop
A.N. Commuter (unclaimed-hinted modified)
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Iecerint
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A.N.1T.?S. Tracker
A.N.1T.?S. Watcher
A.N.1T.?S. Doctor
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Kdub
?
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MagnaOfIllusion
Rikku
A.N.1T. Learn primary ability of target player. Role-block target player's primary ability. Use target player's primary ability.
A.N.1T. Neighborize target player.
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A.N.1T. Affiliation Cop
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A.N.1T.2S Vigilante kill with kill flavor of “Shot”

Abilities
D1:
Millar (A) uses Zerg Rush to reduce vote threshold by 1.
Netopalis nothing.
SpyreX (A/P) may have used his # of scum on the wagon ability.
Robocopter (P) demonstrates Passive Vote Threshold ability.
Ythan nothing.
BV310 nothing.
Furcolow nothing.
Iecerint nothing.
Kdub nothing.
MagnaOfIllusion nothing.
Super Smash Bros. Fan nothing.
Kast nothing.

N1:
Netopalis Grapple Beam on SpyreX
SpyreX (A/P) may have used his # of scum on the wagon ability.
Robocopter (A) uses Negative Ability on Furcolow.
Ythan nothing.
BV310 (A) uses ??? (hinted tracker) on Furcolow.
Furcolow (A) Rolecops ???
Iecerint (A) Tracks Ythan.
Kdub ??? (unclaimed)
MagnaOfIllusion (A) Steals Furcolow's Rolecop. (A) Uses Rolecop on Netopalis.
Super Smash Bros. Fan (A) Investigates Robocopter.
Kast (A) Kills Netopalis.
??? (A) Mafia Kill SpyreX.

D2:
Robocopter nothing.
Ythan nothing.
BV310 nothing.
Furcolow nothing.
Iecerint nothing.
Kdub nothing.
MagnaOfIllusion nothing.
Super Smash Bros. Fan nothing.
Kast nothing.

N2:
Ythan nothing.
BV310 (A) uses ??? (hinted watcher) on Kast.
Furcolow (A) Rolecops ???
Iecerint (A) Watches MoI.
Kdub ??? (unclaimed)
MagnaOfIllusion (A) Steals Super Smash Bros. Fan's Cop. (A) Uses Cop on BV310.
Super Smash Bros. Fan (A) Investigates MagnaOfIllusion.
Kast (A) Kills Muffin.
??? (A) Mafia Kill Ythan with kill flavor “Scratched & Torn”.

N3:
BV310 ???
Furcolow (A) Commutes.
Iecerint (A) Docs MoI.
Kdub ??? (unclaimed)
MagnaOfIllusion (A) Neighborizes BV310.
Super Smash Bros. Fan (A) Investigates MagnaOfIllusion.
Kast nothing.

Possibly due to RC's love of flavor, possibly due to the limited reveals of the game, RC has done private flavor confirmations for multiple player abilities (not necessarily names, but confirmations that things happened).
D1- Mod essentially publicly confirmed both the Zerg Rush and Chun Li's immunity.
N1- Mod publicly confirms SpyreX's and Netopalis' deaths. Mod privately confirms Iecerint's visit to Ythan. Mod privately confirms MoI's Rbing Fur to BV.
N2- Mod publicly confirms Ythan's death. Mod privately confirms Kast's attempted kill to SSBF. Mod privately confirms ??? framing of SSBF's investigation to Kast. Mod privately confirms BV's ??? (hinted watching) to Kast. Mod privately confirms activity regarding either MoI OR BV to MoI (probably Iecerint's watching). Mod privately confirms MoI's Rbing to SSBF.
N3- Mod publicly confirms no deaths. Mod privately confirms MoI's Neighborizer to BV. Mod privately confirms ??? failed kill on MoI to Iecerint.

Where this breaks down:
Kill flavor screw-up on N1.
SSBF surviving the kill on N2.

What this suggests:
Furcolow is lying scum with probable partner Kdub. Kdub is likely the roleblocker who also has some specialized (probably one shot unblockable) kill that was used on Ythan. Fur probably investigated someone on N2 and tried to kill MoI on N3 (failed to Iecerint's doctor).
@Kill on Kdub-
I did and I didn't.
Spoiler: Why Kdub?
If you follow the thoughts I had at end of previous day, the ideal thing would be to kill Kdub. All other players have at least one if not more mod confirmed ties (some public some private) with another player. Kdub is the only possible player who could be the sexy teen role blocker. Yet Kdub refused to claim yesterday, which essentially proved he was Evil. RB is hardly a power that needs to avoid being found; his choice of roleblock targets is an ideal scum list: Robo who was most probable town, then (potentially) Fur (rolecop), then Muffin (cop). Regardless of whether MoI or Fur was the second mafia, Kdub pretty much had to be the third (which clears Netopalis, but does not clear MoI).
Spoiler: Why 2-shot claim?
I am a town vig, but on replacing in I found myself in one of the rare spots in which maintaining Shotty's lie seemed best. I have no doubt that replacing into an already suspicious spot and claiming that the previous guy was lying about his powers would be at all beneficial to avoiding that mislynch. More so since scum would have to consider that I might shoot them at that point.
I also knew at that point that there was at least one scum RB and possibly a scum RB who could potentially steal a bonus kill for his team (btw, neither of my abilities are "primary"). My ability also strongly disinclined me from trusting MoI's claim (though this is private info, so I didn't use this to try and get him lynched).
I have single gun which is capable of both rapid fire or focused fire. Rapid fire can be used twice per game, focus fire once per game. Rapid fire will kill my target AND has a chance to kill anyone who is near my target (I'm assuming this means someone who my target acts on or who acts on my target). Mod confirmed that any additional deaths resulting from the rapid fire would be killed by Shot. This makes it almost impossible imo for the Spyrex death to be caused by my ability.
Focus fire is an "unstoppable" delayed kill that can not be blocked by any means other than killing me on the night I use it (I'm unclear whether this means it is immune to roleblocking or theft; it may be).
Shotty missed the night 3 deadline but actually tried to submit a kill on Muffin using this ability.
I submitted a kill on Kdub on N4 using this ability.*
Spoiler: What happened?*
I'm hoping someone can own up to using some kind of ability on me last night. I got a Night Results PM that told me a voice appeared in my head while I was setting up my rifle to kill Kdub. The voice convinced me to wait until tomorrow to do it. I was expecting today to begin with Kdub still alive and I don't know why:
-My ability worked when I was told I was blocked.
-My ability ignored the delayed aspect and happened immediately.
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My speculation:
Someone has an ability that turns delayed abilities into immediate ones (perhaps as a side effect of some other ability). It would most likely be meant for synergy with Cortana's Coroner ability but also potentially have benefits with other players such as my own ability. Hopefully that player was not BV (I'm guessing Iecerint).

Additional Thoughts:
-On seeing Spyrex flip and hearing that Spyrex (Cortana) was actually responsible for the delayed flips, it strongly reinforces my suspicion that MoI was scum. He claims to have role-copped Spyrex, but did not share the delayed coroner ability.
--Seems odd that Chun Li was included in the delayed flip since Cortana was dead before Chun Li.
--Seems odd that Cortana revealed alignment, but nothing confirmed for the others. If we assume the mention of Netopalis having a contract on Cortana is game relevant, then it makes the Grapple Beam claim much less plausible (why use a protective ability on someone you need to kill).
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Speculation
- I wonder if BV's death was an attempt to prevent him from confirming MoI as scum due to some statement from their private thread (ie. if MoI said something about Spyrex which gets contradicted by Cortana's delayed coroner reveal).

-However, on seeing Kdub die but the game not ending, it either means we have a third party (possible, but unlikely) or MoI was town and Fur is the remaining mafia.
--Less likely, but this possibility also occurs, is that Kdub has some kind of fake death ability (though using my flavor makes it almost unthinkable).

-We still have no info on how/why Muffin survived my kill attempt from N2.
--SSBF please share your investigation results.
--If you have more info on how you survived Night 2, then please share it.

-Fur you have several points that have not been answered:
--Who was your night targets (I know you claimed to be blocked but if you weren't blocked who were you going to target)?
--Do you have any private flavor PMs that involve any other players (actually please share all flavor PMs that you have)?
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:08 am

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I was also considering switching my vote with my post yesterday; mod can confirm that post game.

After seeing the delayed reveals, I felt very comfortable with MoI's lynch. After seeing Kdub flip but game not ending, I am not nearly as comfortable anymore.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:43 pm

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@Iecerint: I'd kind of like to reveal my information now. I have some important things to talk about. Not only am I 99% sure it will lead to the final scum, it also makes a person almost guarateen town.

I will be claiming at exactly 9 PM CST if not earlier, regardless of whenever or not Furcolow has claimed.
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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:17 pm

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-I don't think Iecerint cares about the order as long as he can claim last.

-If anyone disagrees with my analysis of Kdub as the scumteam RBer, please say so. The sexy teen roleblocker is obviously Morrigan (a succubus).
--Also note, Kdub as RBer was only discernible after everyone made their flavor claims on D4, so that's minor evidence that it was a legitimate attempt to kill scum made on N4.

At this point, there's 1 confirmed mafia and 1 nigh-confirmed mafia. Since the game has not ended, we either have 1 mafia still alive, 1+ independent(s) still alive, or a combination.

If mafia, I'm leaning to Fur (meaning MoI was either lying town or town with mod-screwing around).
If independent, it's a toss-up (from other PoV, I guess I'd be the most probable).
If both, then I'd go for the Fur lynch. Arguably, town could aim for the mafia/potential SK cross kill and when they see I have no kills tomorrow just finish off Fur.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:22 pm

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Oh and just got confirmation PM from Mod that I didn't actually shoot (or at least that I still have my shot available).

So yeah, unless someone copied my ability, there's someone else with a kill that uses bullets out there.

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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:19 pm

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i investigated bv310 but the flavor told me he was out making a kill
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:21 pm

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i am pretty fucking sure that it is all town left with kast as an SK
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