The I don't play anymore thread

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Post Post #112  (isolation #0)  » Sat Sep 18, 2010 10:30 pm

SFG wrote:
Vi wrote:It's nice to see a recurring theme in these posts, especially when I made one of them.
Maybe people will get the hint.


I think my theme is actually running directly contrary yours - I did my research, tried to do well at this game, and people still treat me like a VI instead of trying to actually help me get better. It's very frustrating being left out to dry/lynched just because you didn't spontaneously develop hax scumhunting skills and you admit that you aren't the best player around.


I don't really understand how can expect someone could help you get better, especially in game (hell I'd probably try to lynch anyone who started trying to teach in game).

Vi wrote:As long as everyone's willing to apologize and make up in the end, there's no real foul and everyone tries to do better in the future.


I'm seeing faaaaaaar to many people who understand their style is scummy / bad, understand why / how it's deficent and make no change to it, instead they just talk about how it's their meta as though that solves everything.

This both confuses and annoys me.
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Post Post #115  (isolation #1)  » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:20 am

It's safe to say I don't have a problem with the LEFT SHIFT AGGRESSION players, my issue is with players who acknowledge that they are playing in a terrible VI manner and then refuse to change their style but instead hide behind meta to defend themselves.

VI's on their own are fine, we were all newbs once (hell I still have plenty of flaws in my own style), to me the main issue is that they tend to join 4+ games then pay only the slightest attention to each rather then playing less games less fucktardedly.

Imo the VI issue won't go away until game caps are lowered.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up

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Post Post #119  (isolation #2)  » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:09 am

Nikanor wrote:I love the /in-vitationals.

I on the other hand am still bitter about them.
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Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up

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Post Post #122  (isolation #3)  » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:42 am

Hydra with someone.

My first game here I hydra'ed with Chamber and that worked out fairly well.
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Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up

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Post Post #131  (isolation #4)  » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:46 pm

If you want some kind of educational aspect why not simply play newbies?

Joining a mini normal / theme then bitching that people aren't teaching you is quite simply dumb.
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Then two, then three, then a month
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Post Post #138  (isolation #5)  » Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:18 pm

A) Either play newbies or don't bitch that players aren't teaching you.

B) You learned the entirely wrong lesson then, if at first you don't succeed give up if a fairly awful way to go about learning.

Have you ever considered teaching yourself?
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Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up

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Post Post #143  (isolation #6)  » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:28 pm

SFG wrote:
Have you ever considered teaching yourself?

I've done the necessary research on the wiki if that's what you mean. Read all of those pages about being town and jeep's tells and even shook the horrible off-site meta I had that any player who had some control of the town should be lynched ASAP. If you mean, have I tried playing mafia by myself, I have not, as I think that would be an exercise in transparency.


-Shrug- I can't comment on the effectiveness of the wiki as a teaching tool as I've never used it in that capacity. What I was referring to was something more along the lines of;

Step 1: Reread your own games, see what you feel works and what doesn't.
Step 2: Find a player who's style you want to emulate and read some of their games, note what you can borrow from them.
Step 3: Use what you learned from step 2 and apply it to step 1.
Step 4: Play another game or three.
Step 5: See Step 1.

Rinse and repeat for as long as your on MS.

Imo it's good to vary up the players your reading, by that I mean if cycle one you read a gut heavy player then cycle two read one who's more of a number cruncher.
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Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up

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Post Post #152  (isolation #7)  » Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:53 am

Yes.
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Post Post #158  (isolation #8)  » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:46 am

The yes was responding to the preceding post.

mykonian wrote:as far as I know, TBM didn't have any problem with the player list, he had problems with the game being destroyed by someone else who didn't do their homework.


I didn't have a problem with the player list, I did have a problem with one of them throwing a godamn fit and pissing on the game rather then replacing out or sucking it up.
Routine day with a dirt cheap brush
Then a week goes by and it goes untouched
Then two, then three, then a month
Then the rest of your life, you beat yourself up


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