NY 118 - BBM's Large Normal Mafia (Game!)

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 4.2

Dana [7] (Gorrad, Shanba, Wraith, Xite, DemonHybrid, evilpacman, Antihero)

Hiphop [3] (Dana, Lowell, Bunnylover)

Not Voting [4] (My Milked Eek, Baby Spice, Singersigner, Flinter)

15 alive, 8 to lynch, 8 to no lynch.

[Wraith]

L-1. Dana, anything left to say for yourself.

Please don't hammer until he speaks.

[Bunnylover]

But Kise never put a vote on Dana.
That what I don't get. Kise would obviously investigate a person who claimed him, since he didn't come out and counter claim, right?
If Kise did investigate Dana and came up scum, then why not put a vote on him?

Their is another possibilty.
That Dana is actually a cop, but is a scum cop.
Is that something that can be done in a game like this?

[Wraith]

But Kise never put a vote on Dana.
That what I don't get. Kise would obviously investigate a person who claimed him, since he didn't come out and counter claim, right?
If Kise did investigate Dana and came up scum, then why not put a vote on him?

Their is another possibilty.
That Dana is actually a cop, but is a scum cop.
Is that something that can be done in a game like this?

We've already theorized Dana is a scumcop.

A counterclaim from Kise would have been extremely stupid D1. In a mini, sure, but not in a Large. Has there ever been a large where there was only one cop or other investigative role?

[Porochaz]

L-1. Dana, anything left to say for yourself.

Please don't hammer until he speaks.

I wont be voting yet. However if you dont want someone to hammer, dont vote!

[Baby Spice]

Well that's depressing. I might be unreliable in some way or another. But I got a guilty on hiphop, and an inno on DP, so

vote:hiphop

I think it's more likely that Kise was Naive or Paranoid and that he just wasn't revealed as such, if that makes any sense.

From what I can see you announced an inno on DP oafter he was flipped, and a guilty on me that I know is wrong as I'm a VT.

**** Danaskillsu

Fake result, fake result, and a legit town cop already flipped. (and a back-up player too so I doubt two town cops)

Thankgod for preview edit

I was voting Dana. Actually with a claim already out, I will vote Dana.

Dana

I will hammer, so talk.

All your investigations and results minimum, and the longer you take the more DGB's siggi will aply.

[Gorrad]

Gorrad, no case yet. I'm debating whether to bring one today or tomorrow. I'm worried that if I do it today, it'll get swallowed up in the quicklynch and the impact will be dulled. But I'd like to get it out before I get nightkilled. I dunno.

If it's all the same, I'd prefer one today. That way I can work on addressing it during night phase.

[singersigner]

Ok, more role speculation...

There were two mafia flips, with no flavor indicating there's another mafia faction. My guess is that there's a third party pro-town player. I don't believe that Dana wasn't roleblocked TWICE IN A ROW (since the roleblock still would've occurred N2 even though Benmage was killed). I agree heavily with Kise (and whoever else agreed with him previously) in that if Dana flips scum, Xite will be scum, too. The only way to really confirm anything is to kill Dana, so Dana, take one for the team. Sucks for us to lose a cop if you flip pro-town, but at least we'll know if your results are/were accurate, and I'm sure the information we can gain from it is ultimately invaluable to town.

The general consensus is wanting Dana to explain himself. I agree, but I also think not much is going to sway the opinions of anyone else, including mine. A lot rides on Dana's flip, so I truly believe it needs to happen.

Last thought...Dana, you've played really shitty this entire game. Whether as town, or scum, we'll find out. Either way, it was not good.

PREVIEW EDIT:
Shanba, yeah, you might as well get everything out now before the hammer/twilight is over. You never know what would happen during the night. Also...I might've missed something, but why do you think you'll get NKed?

Gorrad...wtf? What the hell is that even supposed to mean? "work on addressing it during night phase"?

[Wraith]

@singer: I think he means "read the topic and analyze Shanba's reads while it is locked and he has nothing to do."

[singersigner]

@singer: I think he means "read the topic and analyze Shanba's reads while it is locked and he has nothing to do."

Yes, but my question was alluding to what makes him think it will matter tomorrow (i.e. he will make it through the night, etc)? And please don't ever answer for someone like that again.

[danakillsu]

I have nothing to say for myself. What could I possibly say?
In a way, singersigner sums it up best saying that I played badly as either town or scum. I am town, but can't prove it.
I guess I only have two things to say in general. The first is that I would love you to lynch hiphop and watch him flip scum, giving me another night to investigate. I asked you to do this yesterday, and I got the guilty I was hoping for, and I would hate to see it kind of go to waste by not keeping me alive. Second, I think more people need to listen to Bunnylover. Kise is not stupid. If Kise is not stupid, Kise has investigated me. That means Kise came up with an inno, or he would have voted me, because he didn't need to claim to vote me. There was more than one major wagon on me during the course of this game. So either Kise was a reliable cop who got an inno on me and so you shouldn't lynch me, or he wasn't a reliable cop, which means I can be (and of course, am).
That all being said, I have nothing to say for my play in this game. I really do think I messed this game up badly.

[Gorrad]

@singer: I think he means "read the topic and analyze Shanba's reads while it is locked and he has nothing to do."

Yes, but my question was alluding to what makes him think it will matter tomorrow (i.e. he will make it through the night, etc)? And please don't ever answer for someone like that again.

Wraith is correct. Why wouldn't it matter tomorrow? Either A) I'm dead and the matter is moot or B) I'm not dead and respond to it.

[Baby Spice]

Vote Dana

Since I am not scum, your guilty is a lie or wrong. Since yougot a innocent in DP who was town (After he died I might add) I can presume any cop ability yopuo may have/ or are pretending to have, is vaguely accurate.

So you are lieing scum or flavoured enough to be worse than useless. (ie: misleading)

I believe the former.

FOS Gorrad

Withheld suspicions at this point is scummy, especially after that sort of lead in.

[Gorrad]

Did I withhold suspicions? I don't believe I did.

[Baby Spice]

Perhaps I should have said reasons ... and anti-town.

If they are spelt out somewhere else then forgive me for skimming and point me in the right direction.

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 4.3

Dana [8] (Gorrad, Shanba, Wraith, Xite, DemonHybrid, evilpacman, Antihero, Baby Spice)

Hiphop [3] (Dana, Lowell, Bunnylover)

Not Voting [4] (My Milked Eek, Singersigner, Flinter, Prozac)

15 alive, 8 to lynch, 8 to no lynch.

[Flameaxe]

Day End.

danakillsu - Mafia Goon - Lynched Day Four

Day five will arrive no later than friday at the normal time of noon MST.

[Flameaxe]

Good morning everybody!

The first death is a newcomer to the game.

Baby Spice - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night Four

The second death was a low blow.

Lowell - Town Roleblocker - Killed Night Four

That leaves twelve of you people. That makes it 7 votes for a lynch. 6 for a no lynch. Have at is everybody.

[Porochaz]

Hiya guise, I need a hiccup cure. As I am more drunk than your family, they may slap you around, but I dont, so I need a druniken hiccup remedy, STAT!

[Porochaz]

I want to tell you about my dog, it had 3 legs and it fell over a lot, Im telling you this because of my friend Jesse, he tried to shoot my dog and through a large series of events (which you can read in my autobiography, [price £12.99 in all major UK bookstores]) ended up me shooting him, now I hope you dont mind, me plugging my book in these most dire circumstances but you just all remind me of the good ol' times where I ended up alone, naked up Arthurs Seat, where I felt the quiet breeze around my giblets, which was relaxing, but also wondered how I would get home, which was terrifying.

[Porochaz]

I may or may not be naked right now.

Come find out. PM me for details.

[Kise]

HA

[evilpacman18]

HA

dammit, stole my idea

[Bunnylover]

Try taking out your lungs. I believe that works :<.
I don't like the fact that everyone here died except for me:
Hiphop [3] (Dana, Lowell, Bunnylover)

Guys what are ya'll opinion on the reason their is two deaths.
Is it because their is a Vig or a SK role?
I am leaning on their been a SK role due to the kills that have been made at night.

[Antihero]

I don't like the fact that everyone here died except for me:
Hiphop [3] (Dana, Lowell, Bunnylover)

Yeah, I don't like that either. But it can be easily fixed.

VOTE: Bunnylover