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Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:39 am

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/confirmage
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sat Sep 18, 2010 9:34 am

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thanks for the congrats...but now I am dying of some sort of flu....ugh...wife is not happy.

vote vi
, so much respect
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Post Post #42 (isolation #2) » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:59 am

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blah blah blah...

you look scummy, and Vi is never wrong....I mean he is the paragon of mafia Hunters.

unvote, vote SaintKerigan
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Post Post #43 (isolation #3) » Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:59 am

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nopointinactingup wrote:@SK: I have a feeling you are trying somewhat the same gambit I did on Trade Mafia, claiming scum and still being able to survive =)
It's
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uh oh, I hammered, does that make me scummy?
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Post Post #44 (isolation #4) » Sun Sep 19, 2010 10:02 am

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@SK, want to just make this easy on us and tell us who your partner is?
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Post Post #49 (isolation #5) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 5:15 am

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well that sucks....

no doubt I am going to look fucking scummy today...

it was a fake hammer...I contacted the mod to tell him that i was doing it (but guess I should have waited for a response)
curiouskarmadog wrote:blah blah blah...

you look scummy, and Vi is never wrong....I mean he is the paragon of mafia Hunters.

unvote, vote SaintKerigan
I misspelled the name on purpose...However, there was a rule in the rule set about voting tricks (guess I should have read the rules) I have done this before and caught scum doing it.....so blah....I disagreed with the call by the mod, but understand it because he did have the "voting tricks" rule there...so it is my fault not the mods.

I understand I have royally fucked us...


I understand what position I put us in and am sorry
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Post Post #52 (isolation #6) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:21 am

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VP Baltar wrote:Mass claim is probably a worthwhile idea today since we're screwed anyhow. I don't see much of a downside other than hoping against hope that the doc would have a successful protect tonight, and I'd rather increase our chances of lynching scum than I would gamble on that at the moment.

Then again, we could also lynch ckd out of stupidity and play the game again with a reroll if we're wrong. :P

Ckd, links to said games where that move worked please.
I will have to dig it up, I know it was a game with Korts in (or modded by) it and my time is always limited...but remember I outed an SK.

VP are you saying you have never seen anyone fake hammer before? What was stupid about my play? I did not know the mod would except a vote on a player that wasnt in the game (why i deliberately mispelled name).
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Post Post #53 (isolation #7) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:24 am

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VP Baltar wrote:

Then again, we could also lynch ckd out of stupidity and play the game again with a reroll if we're wrong. :P

.
also interesting comment here on two levels.

one, you keep track of your wins and losses....why would you want to take a loss on a game without trying?

two, how do you know that the game will end with my lynch? You know I am town and we are in lylo?

looking forward to your explanation of the statement.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #8) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:25 am

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ignore the second one...

just noted the "if were wrong" at the end of the statement. :oops:
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Post Post #55 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:32 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:
I will have to dig it up, I know it was a game with Korts in (or modded by) it and my time is always limited...but remember I outed an SK.
correction, I am getting the above confused with a different game...the gambit I pulled that caught the SK was in a neighbor QT thread, was with Konowa (not korts), and did not have to do with voting....

but I know I have done it before as town.....but even if I find it going through my games..isnt it all just WIFOM anyway?.....still looking though.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:47 am

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I assumed it would work because a.) I sent the mod a PM stating the vote was fake and b.) I have done it before and the mod didnt have a problem I remember getting a pm stating "thanks for letting me know"....

at any rate, I have played about 70 games on site...I am looking...

question though VP, I am assuming you are impling I am scum...that being said, do you think I mispelled the name by accident and actually meant to hammer?
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Post Post #58 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:48 am

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and if I provide the link of doing it before (as town)...will that make you think I am town?
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Post Post #59 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:50 am

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is there anyway to list old game on site by name or number?
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Post Post #60 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:55 am

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curiouskarmadog wrote:is there anyway to list old game on site by name or number?
for example, I want to look up

Crackers! Mafia, how do I do that? i just linking completed games last year.
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Post Post #61 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:56 am

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edit, "just started"...sorry for quad posts.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #15) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:27 pm

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well, you are implying that you dont believe me...if you dont believe me then you must think i am scum...but answer the question, do you think i mispelled the name and meant to hammer?

also, no one is answering my question how to look up old games...VP any clue how?..do games only go back to 2008?
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Post Post #65 (isolation #16) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:38 pm

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I mean, I will find it if I thought it would do any good...but the issue is I cant find older games...the only reason I remembered I did this was because someone in a current game faked hammered (in a different way) and it reminded me that I had done that once with some success.

but lets say I find it...prove that I have indeed done it before....I did it as town, bought me some town cred at the time....what is to say that knowing that, i did try to do it here..again, gain the same credit as scum?...ooooorrrr, I did it here, didnt contact the mod, and would use this very defense as a defense...if I was in your shoes...I understand where you are at....it is all WIFOM.

I have made it easy for scum....they even knocked off Eq.....who, was voting me yesterday....looks like an open shut case

(shrug)..it is going to come down to do you think it was a gambit or not.

Vi, I take that you are ok with a massclaim then?
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Post Post #67 (isolation #17) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:45 pm

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well, if I am town, meant to hammer, and am now backtracking/lying to cover my ass, you have my premission to avoid every game I ever join....I hate it when town lie....in certian occasions I sort of get it...but over all, I will stop playing with someone who does it...like fake claim cop

either I am scum and meant to hammer...

or I am town and telling the truth....

those are really the only options.
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Post Post #68 (isolation #18) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:49 pm

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oh jesus christ...I am now finding old games...but you cant sort the game by author in the game?..I will have to go page by page.....LOL....whatever i will try
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Post Post #70 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:02 pm

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dont know the game..looking.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:34 pm

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well shit...I found it...at least I found what I remembered as a vote....it was actually a vig.

mini 646
http://www.mafiascum.net/archive/viewto ... start=1000

post 7952, I had to say "daykill Korts"(recalled Korts right)...in this post I said kill by saying "Kill korts" with a fake kill

I PMed the mod and said that that I was purposely doing it different to fake kill and see what happens..mod said it was fine.


some of the similiarities are same post I ask.
"you are dead my friend...care to tell me who your other partner is?"

here I ask..
curiouskarmadog wrote:@SK, want to just make this easy on us and tell us who your partner is?
same page, I told Korts I caught him becasue of a "scum slip" and ask him "Hey korts, want to know what your slip was?" I was just trying to get him to admit guilt.

After I figured he was town, I shot my other suspect and it scum.....

Also, I immediately started asking everyone what they thought of my speedy kill, was trying to gauge reaction and see who would attack me preflip..... i started to do the same thing here...in this game.
curiouskarmadog wrote:
nopointinactingup wrote:@SK: I have a feeling you are trying somewhat the same gambit I did on Trade Mafia, claiming scum and still being able to survive =)
It's
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uh oh, I hammered, does that make me scummy?

anyway....it wasnt a misspell or a vote. I know I have seen it done or tried to do it myself and will keep looking for it...but I am pretty sure I was remembering this game as a misspelled vote.

check it out for yourself...I have got to go to bed tired of reading old mafia games.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #21) » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:08 am

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well, that is 4 people who said they think I am lying....and I have to convince two of you that I am not...

like I said mod, this was going to be a up hill battle today.

also who said anything about a godfather?
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Post Post #77 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:12 am

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Vi wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:Vi, I take that you are ok with a massclaim then?
That's correct.
I have made it easy for scum....they even knocked off Eq.....who, was voting me yesterday....looks like an open shut case
I don't think anyone even mentioned Equinox so far. I think you're trying to make yourself look framed.
I am dumb enough (with a mafia award) to hammer as scum on page 2, but smart enough to try to make myself look framed?

awesome..I am fucking all over the map.
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Post Post #80 (isolation #23) » Thu Sep 23, 2010 7:05 am

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I didnt wait because it has never been an issue, nor have I ever seen it an issue...

and I didnt ask to do it...I wrote him and said something like "just a head's up that vote wasnt a vote (note the mispelling)".....when I checked back he told me to see rule 7, curtly (in my opinion) said thank you, and the game was in night...

look you guys arent going to believe anything I say today (and the reason why is not lost on me)...all 4 of you have chimed in and said you think i am scum, two of you fuckers owe this win to me for my blunder (not going to say stupidity, because I really was trying to scum hunt)....

so you can keep asking me questions but you and I both know there really isnt anything I can say that will fix my situation and scum is going to keep fueling the fire..

from your pov, the only way today will not end with my mislynch is if scum fake claims doc...so we might as well get to the mass claim...

how do you want to do it?..pop corn?

think since sotty was the first to suggest a mass claim, he should go first and pick who goes next....
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Post Post #82 (isolation #24) » Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:54 am

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what is nopoint claiming?
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Post Post #85 (isolation #25) » Thu Sep 23, 2010 3:13 pm

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oooh, nopoint is a person...and sotty, who is "we"?
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Post Post #87 (isolation #26) » Thu Sep 23, 2010 4:08 pm

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Post Post #93 (isolation #27) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:32 pm

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I am the doc......VP
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Post Post #94 (isolation #28) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 12:34 pm

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and if you are curious, I protected VP last night.
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Post Post #96 (isolation #29) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:24 pm

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Vi wrote:I like where this is going.
what is the point of this comment before VP's claim?
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Post Post #98 (isolation #30) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:00 pm

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well, if he is town, I wont...if he is scum I will....how nice of you to coach him.
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Post Post #99 (isolation #31) » Fri Sep 24, 2010 4:01 pm

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Vi wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
Vi wrote:I like where this is going.
what is the point of this comment before VP's claim?
I expect you to get counterclaimed.
and again, what town reason could you have to say this before his claim?
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Post Post #101 (isolation #32) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:22 am

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sweet god, I did not see that coming at all...well, now that I am cleared, we are going to actually scum hunt...

I cant see VPscum, not counter claiming doc....it was pretty much a slam dunk that I was going to be lynched and a doc claim from him would have sealed the deal...unless he just wanted to extend this out and demostrate his scum skills....

going to reread (all 5 pages.)
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Post Post #103 (isolation #33) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:45 am

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if you are that arrogant, you are ballsy

well the lack of discussion is my fault..I know...I really get that. and I am sorry....but again, i really thought I was scum hunting and wanted to gauge reaction to my "scummy hammer" to see who would attack me pre flip. the fact that nopoint thought there was a GF in the game, makes me think he is not the lynch today.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #34) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:46 am

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so Vi, nopoint, Sotty.....who is scum now?
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Post Post #114 (isolation #35) » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:53 pm

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let me ask you this, if VPscum had claimed doc....would you have voted him over me? Do you think anyone would have voted him over me?

so either VP wants to show off his scum skills and make the game interesting after my blunder, or he is fucking stupid...really fucking stupid.

short of him coming out and saying he is scum, I will not be voting him today.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #36) » Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:07 pm

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well in my book, scum is 2 of the following Vi, Sotty, nopoint...

interested in hearing everyone else's top 3....should be obvious, but would like to hear arguements.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #37) » Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:59 am

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I am not that hesitant, I mean he could not be paying attention as scum just as well as town, but as scum i assume he has been chatting with someone, and during that chat(s) not being a GF should have come up....it could also be a ploy....all that being said, I probably will not be voting him today, sotty and Vi (leaning toward sotty)..will be getting my vote......

but the jury is still out.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #38) » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:54 pm

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you can question VP all you want about his motivations, bottom line, it only took one townie to vote me and scum would have dropped the hammer....everyone had said that they didnt believe me or at the very least questioned my blunder...it did look scummy and Equinox WAS killed last night and he died yesterday voting me....my point, the scum frame was in (not that they needed it)....I dont think VP is scum.....it would have been way too easy to counter then lynch me.

no one will convince me otherwise today, VP might be scum, but the gambit doesnt make any sense unless he just wants to show off his skills (granted it is a possibility). both Sotty and Vi and throwing it out there....but all he had to do was counter and scum would have won...thats it. Anyone who says anything else is just trying to muddy the water.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 28, 2010 12:12 am

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wait you want to strangle me, but you agree with my conclusion?
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Post Post #139 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:13 pm

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I am not feeling the nopoint lynch, not today anyway.

I am down to Vi and Sotty....I definitely do not understand your town read on Vi.....
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Post Post #142 (isolation #41) » Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:32 pm

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VP Baltar wrote:well, It's certainly not a 100% town read. Why would Vi-scum in that situation suggest a lynch on her buddy though?
really? why not? a suggestion is not a vote.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #42) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:29 am

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VP Baltar wrote:
curiouskarmadog wrote:
VP Baltar wrote:well, It's certainly not a 100% town read. Why would Vi-scum in that situation suggest a lynch on her buddy though?
really? why not? a suggestion is not a vote.
I just feel that we're closing in on a vote and that vibe was there when I asked. It's hard for me to see why Vi would push anything in the direction of a buddy at that point when she could nudge toward a townie and win the game outright.
like the lynch he was on yesterday?...like how he was leaning before the massclaim?
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Post Post #157 (isolation #43) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:33 am

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Vi wrote:@VP Baltar: That's actually a good answer.

Also, I approve of this abuse of the :? smiley.
ckd wrote:1) like the lynch he was on yesterday?...
2) like how he was leaning before the massclaim?
1) L-1 on page 2 was not intended to be a big deal (albeit a badly needed conversation starter). Only morons who can't read obvious L-1 warnings or opportunistic scum would make L-1 a big deal by hammering.
2) Given that you demonstrated that you were not a moron who can't read obvious L-1 warnings, and coupling that with your implausibly bad excuses for hammering, you plunged into obvious scum territory.
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Cut by VP Baltar--Well, that. :igmeou:
hey man, I am just commenting on VP commenting on "why would VIscum do X", i am saying that you are not that towny looking, and I understand the only reason I am alive today is because of the claim...I get it...and AGAIN, my play yesterday was a VI type of play...I really was scum hunting...I wanted to see who would attack me (especially those actually on the wagon) for my vote pre flip (that wasnt suppose to happen)..not to mention it would have really gotten conversation started on page 2...anyway, it is what it is.
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Post Post #158 (isolation #44) » Wed Sep 29, 2010 11:35 am

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I am probably ready to vote...but then again maybe not..

sotty you are complaining about lack of questions, but are there any questions you need answered/..your thoughts on the game and who is scum?
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Post Post #166 (isolation #45) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 1:22 pm

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Post Post #169 (isolation #46) » Thu Sep 30, 2010 3:57 pm

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if for some reason you two are scum together..and you are trying to see when each other will post...I will be pissed...I dont think that is the case....but man...pissed.

also stalking the thread to see who votes when....I can say that cause i am cleared I guess, but interested in no points vote.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:23 am

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here is my problem, I can see sotty as scum.......but really only with Vi....

my gut (which still lingers with this) is worried that VP is still scum, but really I only see it with Vi...(I agree with nopoint that I have no clue why VP is certain Vi is not scum)

the common factor there, is Vi, so it should only make sense that I vote Vi.

Vote Vi
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Post Post #176 (isolation #48) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:58 am

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how exactly would vi have lynched either of you...lets say vi is scum with sotty...he would vote you then what?...wait and hope for nopoint to do the same? no I imagine Viscum with sottyscum would have waited till I or nopoint would have voted, to keep his cards close to his chest.

who is sotty's partner VP? both vi and nopoint checked, so given your math, nopoint isnt likely scum either. the only thing that today has proven (sort of) is that nopoint and Vi are not scum together....but again, they both could be waiting till they are on together....dont know....

anyway, going to

unvote


going to be away from my comp on and off.....afraid to leave the vote unattended.

but you can go ahead and assume it is there.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #49) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:23 am

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really since I am cleared...I would like to see where Vi and nopoint are in their votes, before I decide to vote again.

Vi and nopoint, please vote now.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #50) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:25 am

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also, would like to hear nopoint and Vi's thoughts on VP's "Sotty must be scum" reasoning, if you disagree with this point, please explain why and who is scum (and why).

also, would like you to vote.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #51) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:30 am

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VP, you are freaking me out.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #52) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:30 am

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i got to do this.

vote vi
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Post Post #191 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 01, 2010 5:07 pm

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unvote


for the night.

I am having a big issue voting with vi.

who are the players that represent sotty again?
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Post Post #203 (isolation #54) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:41 am

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so it was sotty, and I guess i should have voted him when i had the chance, but I could get over my read on Vi....

not sure why no point voted VP, I mean jesus christ, VPscum, could have wrapped up the game with a doc claim....THATS IT..I dont fucking get it, VP wasnt the lynch today...that part seemed easy to me....

actually I was getting ready to bitch out nopoint, but I am partially to blame for the loss I guess for day one, so I will just shut it.

good game scum, but apparently we made it really easy for it.

Mod, did you want to discuss the day one misspelling thing? I mean, it was in the rules and I just didnt know it, so I am not attacking you or anything, I just disagree with it.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #55) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:42 am

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nopointinactingup wrote:You failed to make me believe you were town, thus I thought Sotty was town ( 1 of you were ).
but Sotty did? based on what?
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Post Post #206 (isolation #56) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:43 am

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Vi wrote:
I think you'll find my postgame commentary interesting though.
I imagine this will be a lot of CKD is a dumbass
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Post Post #207 (isolation #57) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:44 am

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nopointinactingup wrote:bitch away. I don't mind. I take the blame for my tunneling.
nah, I fucked up too, so I dont have a leg to bitch on.

I just dont think you were reading the game.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #58) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:51 am

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well, lets say we hit Sottyscum today, most likely would have still lost...it didnt sould like VP thought Vi was scum.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #59) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:52 am

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can we do a reboot with a real Day 1?
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Post Post #238 (isolation #60) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:01 am

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in regards to the pity party....what else could I have done?

I knew going into Day 2 that I was going to be a lynch (especially having the doc claim)...I had to try any AND everything. and quite honestly that was how I felt. I was pissed and embarassed, so it wasnt so much of a pity party as a "I fucked up". I have never been in a game where that had been an issue and really thought I had done soemthing like that before (again it was a vig and not a vote)...so at least I learned something.

what saved me during the claim was Nopoint coming out and claiming and then picking someone else to claim...I knew I had to be one of the last people to claim for it to work....

but I think scum would agree, they didnt win because they were just that good...they won because we really dropped the ball....
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Post Post #241 (isolation #61) » Sat Oct 02, 2010 4:10 am

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"technicality"...no it is an explanation....I didnt know it was an issue..obviously the blame is all mine for not reading the rules, but I have read rules in the passed and that has never been in them. I guess I was offended at the "CKD is a VI" type comments....i am not, I really thought I was scum hunting.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #62) » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:44 am

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i would too, with a real fucking Day 1.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #63) » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:18 am

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I am down....
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