VP Baltar wrote:Vote: Vi
God, that is satisfying.
Unvote, Vote: Sottyrulez
Obv scum going to try and bus itself. Kill it with fire.
Cause he said he was going to quit playing mafia and he's a LIAR.
I will imagine the posting will be even between myself and Zach. We're a hive mind when we hydra, keeping things as simple as possible. If we both have different opinions we'll talk it over before coming up with a direction to go in thread. By the time that happens it tends not to be important who makes the actual post.VP Baltar Post 23 wrote:Hey Sottyrulez, who will be posting predominately for you guys or will it be even? Are you going to sign your posts or no?
Try this. I used it to complete my wiki, finding games all the way back from when I first joined.curiouskarmadog wrote:also, no one is answering my question how to look up old games...VP any clue how?..do games only go back to 2008?
Well after this post, I can't really see nopoint being scum, and CKD is cleared as the uncountered doctor, so the scum would have to be Vi and VP Baltar.nopointinactingup wrote:I don't buy CKD's town gambit at all. No mod would allow voting tricks like that. I think there are more incentives for scum to have made a quick hammer like that in this game, where there is a godfather, thus CKD is likely godfather.
As for mass claiming, I don't see any reason not to. If we mislynch today a doctor wouldn't help either way so I say the doctor comes out and claim.
This is weak. Day 1 ended on page 2, and day 2 up to this point has been about mass claiming, so there really hasn't been any real opportunity to get any kind of footing in the game outside of any of that.VP Baltar wrote:lol, I hope you don't think I'm that arrogant.
My biggest thing about Sottyrulez and nopoint is their general level of hesitance. I know we haven't had much discussion this game, but they don't seem to have said much at all. nopoint in particular.
This is also WIFOM.curiouskarmadog wrote:sweet god, I did not see that coming at all...well, now that I am cleared, we are going to actually scum hunt...
I cant see VPscum, not counter claiming doc....it was pretty much a slam dunk that I was going to be lynched and a doc claim from him would have sealed the deal...unless he just wanted to extend this out and demostrate his scum skills....
going to reread (all 5 pages.)
Entertains the notion of simply lynching CKD.VP Baltar wrote:Mass claim is probably a worthwhile idea today since we're screwed anyhow. I don't see much of a downside other than hoping against hope that the doc would have a successful protect tonight, and I'd rather increase our chances of lynching scum than I would gamble on that at the moment.
Then again, we could also lynch ckd out of stupidity and play the game again with a reroll if we're wrong.
Ckd, links to said games where that move worked please.
Seems like you're backing off here a bit after fanning the flames on CKD. You were heavily implying that he was scum during post 56, talking about CKD's own rule set not fitting in with his play. Now it looks like you were trying to make CKD look as bad as possible without committing yourself either way.VP Baltar wrote:Well, ckd is claiming precedence as his reasoning for doing it, which is what I'm asking him to prove. The idea of fake voting is not something new, I just don't necessarily believe what he's saying as his reasoning. And screwed was hyperbole of course, but we're certainly in a very poor position game wise at the moment.
@ckd - I don't recall calling you scum at all. I'm simply trying to find out your reasoning. Did something I said make you think I'm calling you scum?
See a lurker lynch also takes relatively little effort as well.VP Baltar wrote:Your reasoning and logic behind doing it are slightly ridiculous, you must admit.
That being said, I'm not certain you are scum. nopoint really bothers me right now actually. But first thing's first, let's get this mass claim going and improve our odds slightly. I'd prefer nopoint claiming first actually.
Defending self with CKD's argument, and the defense is WIFOM. Plus as pointed out earlier, a lurker lynch also requires little effort.VP Baltar wrote:You and everybody else. Not really an excuse to post no content whatsoever. Also, if I was scum trying to propel a mislynch, I would have just counter claimed ckd. It would have taken approximately -0 effort to get a mislynch on him had he been counter claimed.no point wrote:I have been busy with life. Latching on to arguments like this to propel your mislynch aren't you?
How is it an excuse when it's exactly what happened? The game has to be open and we have to be around to actually post.VP Baltar wrote:I've been trying. Vi has been trying. Granted it's not as much as a normal game, but why the excuse making?
Scum won both games.VP Baltar wrote:Were either of these scum in a position to win the game. If not, then I don't even see how this evidence is related.
I'd say five. By that you worded in such a way that allows you to dismiss it as a joke or roll with it if the town wanted too.VP Baltar wrote:On a scale of 1-10, how serious do you think I was being?
Excellent deflection. (Yes I know what I did there.)VP Baltar wrote:I was actually playing the game trying to figure out if he was scum or not, yes. Where were you at?
Err no. Try again.VP Baltar wrote:lol. so your argument is that because I was stating suspicions of people in the game, I was being scummy?
An out how? If we are so “innocuous” like you say, what would we need an out for?VP Baltar wrote:Vi was a town read and I didn't really have a good read on your slot because you've been pretty innocuous this game. Thankfully, ckd being clear makes this much easier and I can see you scrambling now for an out.
It comes down to WIFOM. We refuse to believe you are cleared just because it would have been easier for scum to have counterclaimed CKD. Especially with this player list. The fact you seemed to leave yourself open for CKD being town when everyone else thought he was scum twigs our scumdar too. You seemed to know he was town and after he claimed doc you rolled with it.VP Baltar wrote:Let me ask your hydra, what motivation do you think I would have had for not CCing ckd at that point? Who would you have believed more easily was the real doctor?
If you look over both of our metas it will show that on weekends our posting goes down considerably. Just like this weekend. Now that the football season has started Sundays are going to be even worse, we literally spend all the day either watching the games or doing other family stuff. The fact the whole of day one lasted over Saturday and Sunday is why we basically missed it. The fact you are trying to make this scummy is pretty outstanding. It would be one thing if the day lasted a little while longer and we lurked. But that just isn't true.VP Baltar wrote:As I acknowledged in my post, I'm well aware that the game hasn't been open much. That being said, what you did post on Day 1 was just random vote and answering a question from me. No effort to start the discussion. Now, perhaps you didn't look at the game at all that Sunday, but my point is that in the few posts you did have you weren't exactly spurring the game on. I can only go on what I see. I asked questions. Vi asked questions. Ckd is confirmed town. What other conclusion can I draw from the evidence I have?
Just to hear these theories I'm gonna answer.VP Baltar wrote:I have theories. Theories that have nothing to do with discrediting. Feel free to answer.
Right out of the ol book of scumtells. Perhaps you can tell me why you would expect a survivalist vibe from scum when a town lynch today will result in a scum win and a scum lynch won't?VP Baltar wrote:
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I suppose I have gone after nopoint slightly more, but that's also partially because I find that I have to string Sottyrulez out more on their own. Nopoint is reacting and posting big walls (almost strictly about me mind you), so that is no effort. Sotty is probably a tougher nut to crack, so it involves more observation. Needless to say, I don't care for how either of them have approached today. I get a survivalist vibe from both, which I expect from scum.
You realize you barely asked us any questions in that post? I see three questions. We answered one, we had already answered the question about the doc, The other question was more you pushing your BS argument asking how it was crap when we had already detailed WHY it was in our last post.VP Baltar wrote:On the other hand, maybe we should just lynch Sotty. For some reason I completely missed that they IGNORED MY ENTIRE POST TO THEM W/ QUESTIONS