Mini 1070 The Godfather:Hunt for Sollozzo (GAME!)

[FakeGod]

@Bub: Instead of frustrated "don't vote me" defense, why didn't you claim in your last post?

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.10

StrangerCoug (1): bv310
Bub Bidderskins (6): Thor665, Wingless, RedCoyote, FakeGod, Exilon, Katsuki
RedCoyote (1): Zajnet
FakeGod (2): Antihero, Bub Bidderskins
Katsuki (1): StrangerCoug

Not Voting (1): pacman291282

With 12 alive it takes 7 to gun someone down.
Deadline is set at October 31st, at 5:00pm PST.

[Andrius]

gandalf5166

replaces

bv310

. Gotta love fast replacements.

[gandalf5166]

O HAI GUIZ, IM REPLACIN BV. IN CASE HE HASNT AlREADY TOLD YOU GUYS, IM CARLO RIZZI, A MILLER, CAUSE THE DON DOESNT TRUST ME AND SHIT.

[Thor665]

Wow, I now officially hate bv if gandalf is speaking truth.
Hi gandalf!
We're lynching Bub today, wanna hammer?

[gandalf5166]

It's only 13 pages, I'm sure the game won't die if I read them first.

[Thor665]

It won't die, but unless you're planning a giant wall post o' pure awesome it won't make a difference either.

Suit thyself.

[Andrius]

I'm going to go back into the most recent votecount and swap bv310 for gandalf5166, just for clarity.

I also love how I've got like 3-4 players in here from Hobbit-sized Medical Mafia. <3

[gandalf5166]

Okay, I'll ISO Bub first, and if I see whatever you're seeing, I'll hammer. Or you can point me to the post where you make a case? Sorry I'm not done already, my mom decided we were going to the zoo.

[gandalf5166]

Nope, I don't see it. You'll have to find someone else to hammer, cause I'm not gonna vote until I at least know why I'm voting.

[Thor665]

Oh gandy, if only there was.

I'm being pretty honest about the gut thing for Bub - something about the way he's playing just twigs me wrong. I haven't got any brilliant cases as currently stands. I probably want him, pac, or you to be the lynch today and at the moment I'm fairly indifferent as to which. I feel slightly bad running a wagon on a missing guy, and there appears to be more support for a Bub wagon then a SC wagon so...

I couldn't find it, but I know I also did a post where I noted that the gut seemed to stem from a pairing of his sloppy play around pushing for a guy who was V/LA for lurking when compared to his otherwise constant attempt to appear like a very detail oriented and focused town <---I also, sadly enough, think this might have been the only case presented on him, as if anyone else did anything I missed it.

We've had a bunch of lurking and non-participation in this topic, and basically Bub's wagon is chugging in as sort of a pathetic slap-fest of a wagon. That said, I do still have a gut scum read on him which is better then any of the other herpy-da-derp cases that have otherwise sort of piddled around today. Quite frankly, with deadline tomorrow and with the town so pathetically slow there is no way in heck the lynch is going to be anything *but* Bub at this stage, hence my request to just get the hammer because I'm praying once we have a flip some of these mooks will bother posting once in a while. If you really want to get up some walls of insight first, feel free.

[gandalf5166]

Oh, somehow I missed that deadline was tomorrow.
I kinda like that reasoning too.

VOTE: Bub

And by the way, I don't make wall posts when I replace in. I try to make the transition as seamless as possible.

[Andrius]

Votecount 1.11

Bub Bidderskins (7): Thor665, Wingless, RedCoyote, FakeGod, Exilon, Katsuki, gandalf5166

RedCoyote (1): Zajnet
FakeGod (2): Antihero, Bub Bidderskins
Katsuki (1): StrangerCoug

Not Voting (1): pacman291282

With 12 alive it takes 7 to gun someone down.
Deadline is set at October 31st, at 5:00pm PST.

Announcements!

A Lynch has been reached!

The table in the Corleone Family meeting room is cluttered with ashtrays, cigar stubs, and empty bottles of alcohol as the sun sets. Many of you are too tired, too drunk, or too careless to pay attention to

Bub Bidderskins

as he starts to sing as the sun sets.

Seven of you pull out your firearms and fire a round into his body. The first bullet tears through his throat, splattering the wall in blood. The second bullet hits a mere millisecond after the first, smashing its way into his skull. His brains begin leaking through the back of his head as the rest of the bullets pound into his chest and torso.

Bub Bidderskins

crashes to the ground in a bloody mess. You all quickly rummage through his possessions and can't identify him. But the throngs of sobbing women across the country can. A light has gone out in Hollywood.

Bub Bidderskins, Johnny Fontane, 2-shot Doctor, was Lynched on Day One!

Night will last 72 hours, ending on November 2nd, at 5:00pm. Please submit your night actions on time!

[gandalf5166]

/in

[Andrius]

Shhh.

[Andrius]

Morning, Day Two

Early in the morning you awaken, eager to see Sollozzo (or one of his henchmen) hang from the yard-arm. Nine of you are seated at the table.

As you begin to question Thor665's whereabouts, a group of

soldati

arrive. You recognize their faces- they serve under Tom Hagen. Presenting a bundle of items wrapped in newspaper, you sense in your hearts what is about to be confirmed. Opening it carefully you find Thor665's hat and wallet. Both are stained with his blood.

Thor665, Tom Hagen, 2-shot Tracker, Gunned Down N1!

You decide that, since StrangerCoug is always late (having a few loose screws)- you'd wait for him. An hour passes and you grow restless. Grabbing your guns and cigars you venture up to StrangerCoug's room. Carefully sliding the door open you see StrangerCoug apparently sleeping in front of his piano. Walking in you go to rouse him, missing the splattering of blood on the wall behind him. Upon contact, he falls over dead, with a bullet through his head.

StrangerCoug, Fredo Corleone, Vanilla Townie, Gunned Down N1!

Nine of you convene in the meeting room.
Nine glasses of whiskey are served, followed by nine cigars and nine lunches.

Only eight of you will stay for dinner.

Votecount 2.0

Not Voting (9): Antihero, pacman291282, gandalf5166, Exilon, FakeGod, RedCoyote, Wingless, Katsuki, Zajnet

With 9 alive it takes 5 to gun someone down.
Deadline is set t November 23rd, at 5:00pm PST.

[gandalf5166]

SC was vigged. That's clear. Unless our vig and mafia are both just completely retarded.
That said, I'm up for a RC wagon or an Exi wagon. Exi looks like a more popular choice, so:

VOTE: Exilon

[pacman281292]

I'm currently extremely busy, so I won't have time to reread until tomorrow. Sorry everyone.

[RedCoyote]

Surely you must be joking.

I suppose you think Kat, FG, and Zaj are all great townies too, yeah?

Seriously though, I've got to hear this one, gandalf. You've had time to read the thread. Give it to me.

[Antihero]

SC was vigged. That's clear. Unless our vig and mafia are both just completely retarded.

Is there any protown reason for saying this? At all?

Personally, I'm up for a FG or Kat wagon.

VOTE: FakeGod

[FakeGod]

I agree with gandalf that SC has been killed by a vig. (flavor fits better as well)

@antihero: Are you serious about your question? Do you realize how important sorting out who was killed by the mafia and vig when there's two kills during the night?

based on who the dead players were attacking, defending, and overall reacting to other players, figuring out who killed who can be critical.

I suspect antihero to be mafia.

Vote: antihero

[Antihero]

Oh, OK. Then please, FakeGod, enlighten me as to how Thor or SC being a mafia/vig/SK/whatever kill tells us anything about anyone's alignment.

[FakeGod]

@antihero: your condescending tone, probably an attempt to dismiss my case before even reading it, is noted.

Let's examine who mafia might kill.

mafia kills can be fairly case-by-case different (more so in a theme game), but for early kills,

especially

for n1 kills, mafia tend to eliminate town who are attacking the mafia members, defending town, and overall doing the right things and getting in mafia's way. This makes sense even against WIFOM because the alternative of leaving people who are pushing/defending the right guys alive for WIFOM purposes is only going to raise the chances that mafia members will be lynched.

I believe Thor has been shot by the mafia. This means that there's a high chance that Thor was doing the above things.

Things Thor have done: (I took out Thor-SC interaction)
ISO 3-17: Thor moves out of RVS and votes pacman.
ISO 18-26: Thor votes RC. Thor gets involved in FG and RC's argument about putting RVS vote on the highest wagon.
ISO 27-31: Thor begins to lean town on RC. Thor mildly supports FG.
ISO 32-37: Thor votes and encourage a wagon on Bub.
ISO 38: Thor criticizes Exilon.
ISO 39-46: Thor warns FG not to use ellipses. Thor is pretty sure that RC is town and discourages the RC wagon. Thor pushes repeatedly on Exilon.
ISO 47-49: Thor says hello to Gandalf.

Conclusion: pacman and/or Exilon is probably mafia, and FG and/or RC is probably town.

I'm not going to post my analysis for the vig kill since I rather not give hints to mafia who vig might be.

[gandalf5166]

Did I not finish reading? I think I may have just read half of the game, shit.

[FakeGod]

@gandalf: haha, which half did you read?