Open 276- Friends and Enemies Mafia (OVER)

[Hoopla]

AGM, read my previous post on Empking please.

Eh, I don't really buy that argument. 1) Scum don't aways make the optimal fakeclaim, for multiple reasons (one being to manipulate you, seeing as you rely on optimal play a lot) 2) Fate and Empking might have planned for Fate to lay off the bus. 3) My suspicion of Andrius-scum is very strong and isn't getting outweighed by that speculation.

Pretty much any player in this game is competent enough to know, that if you get to L-1 and are asked to claim or are threatened to be hammered, you claim mason. If a newer player or two is scum, they'd have been told this as scum in the QT. There are not any other possible plays to complicate the system, so it's entirely reasonable to believe that scum should know and would claim mason. Empking is hardly incompetent, also. He'd know to out a mason/get himself not lynched if he was scum.

Not claiming mason either means he's a VT, or there wasn't enough pressure on him.

[Fate]

No one claimed that they would hammer Empking.

AKA NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE ON HIM.

[Hoopla]

Fate, it's entirely possible a mason could be run up to L-1. Two masons in 11 players (with 3 scum) is hardly a powerhouse town block, so it's not like they wield that much influence in the game. I hope you're not suggesting any player who claims mason at L-1 gets hammered though.

I HOPE YOURE NOT ADVISING EMPKING TO CLAIM MASON IN THREAD, NOW ARE YOU?

IM SUGGESTING ANYONE THAT GETS WAGONNED TO L-1 AND CLAIMS MASON SHOULD BE HAMMERED, YES.

What's the fucking point of having masons in the game then??

[Fate]

AKA HE WAS HOPING TO COAST OFF THE WAGON ON HIM AND AVOID CLAIMING SCUM.

[Fate]

THE FUCKING POINT IS TO HAVE MASONS CONFIRMED AT LYLO IF THEY ARE SMART ENOUGH TO LIVE UNTIL THEN.

DONT TURN THIS INTO MAFIA 101 SCUMBAG, GO BACK TO MISREPPING MY POSTS SO IT BECAUSE MORE OBVIOUS AFTER MY FLIP HOW SCUMMY YOU ARE.

[Hoopla]

No one claimed that they would hammer Empking.

AKA NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE ON HIM.

Right, so him not claiming mason doesn't rule out that possibility then!

You don't get to keep the point that Empking is either scum/VT.

[Fate]

EMPKING IS SCUM. THERES NO EITHER. THERES NO OR.

YOURE TRYING TO OUT THE MASONS WITH THIS DISCUSSION, I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU.


SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS HAVE WAGONNED EMPKING SCUM TO L-1. THERES NO REASON TO THINK EMPKING IS A MASON.

[Hoopla]

EMPKING IS SCUM. THERES NO EITHER. THERES NO OR.

YOURE TRYING TO OUT THE MASONS WITH THIS DISCUSSION, I SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOU.


SEVERAL PEOPLE WHO WILL REMAIN NAMELESS HAVE WAGONNED EMPKING SCUM TO L-1. THERES NO REASON TO THINK EMPKING IS A MASON.

No, I'm trying to keep the masonry intact. You're the one completely eliminating any possibility of Empking being town. You're playing really badly if you're town.

AGM, we have Fate squirming. Don't let him get away with this. The Empking wagon really does suck.

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Also, I'm not going to post for a while. I've been spamming too much - I ask Fate to do the same too, so others can catch up and have a chance of reading and understanding what is happening, rather than being swamped with another page or two of argument that nobody reads. Please just do it if you're town, Fate.

[Fate]

I TRIED SAYING "hmmm empkin is town>? then AGM IS SCZUMZZ" AND IT LED ME FULL CIRCLE. AND IT MADE ME REALZIE YOURE JUST TRYING TO KEEP YOUR SCUMTEAM INTACT AS HARD AS YOU FUCKING CAN.

"AGM, FATE IS SQUIRMING. KILLKILLKILLKILL" YOURE WHISPERING IN HIS EAR SCUMBAG, AND EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT.

"I DONT WANT TO POST ANYMORE. IVE RUN OUT OF AMMO TO CALL FATE SCUM WITH, SO ILL JUST SAY HES FLAILING WHICH IS NICE AND FUCKING GENERAL. PLEASE DONT POST ANYMORE POINTING OUT HOW BAD MY ARGUMENTS ARE FATEEEEEE IF YOURE TOWNNN"


IF IM TOWN? I THOUGHT I WA SFATE SCUM SQUIRMIN SQUIRMIN.

LOLFUCKINGLOL

ALSO WHATEVER HAPPENED TO:

[Fate]

Fate, this is probably the one time where your aggressive spamming to rile up players would be a good thing - we need more activity in here, and I kind of expected you and to a lesser extent, ABR to be more vocal and influential. Has Empking looked town or scummy to you since his introduction? I assume he hasn't done enough to outweigh Andrius' play.

I GAVE THE TOWN WHAT IT NEEDED, ACTIVITY. AND NOW YOURE LIKE "OH FUCK, I JSUT SAID THAT TO LOOK MORE PRO TOWN I DIDNT

ACTUALLY

WANT YOU TO DO THE PRO TOWN THINGS YOU DO."


HEHEHAKEHAHEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I still think Empking needs to die; but I have no problem lynching Fate to shut him up. I mean he's being assisted by several other players, but he's right on track to destroy the game.

[Fate]

Lynching Empking is the track I'm on and it doesn't destroy NETHIN

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

You're running around doing nothing but banging pots and pans together; besides creating a noisy din that makes it impossible to actually do anything productive it also allows multiple players to completely slip under the radar. Anyways it gets cut, your death would be a Godsend and it's only the facts that I'd rather lynch players based on how likely they are to be scum and an increasingly fleeting hope that scum will get confused and kill you for us that I'm not on your wagon.

[Fate]

Oh so the game was being PRODUCTIVE AS HELL before I started going around?

Don't deude yourself.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Last post on the matter since I refuse to play your game. And I'll leave it both simple and broad so maybe you'll actually understand.

Something is not always better than nothing.

[Fate]

Policy lynches on town in this game is always worse than lynching a scumread.

Nuff fucking said, agreed.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Newbie2010 don't you have a good reason to hammer Empking? Why are you hiding?

[Empking]

Oyh yeah, coasting is also something I would call null if it leads to the player replacing out. The thing that causes the coasting is the same thing that causes the replacing out.

Hoopla: You find NS scummy, right?

I find his play ridiculously anti-town, and I guess I find it scummy too. I would be open to wagoning him if this is what you're suggesting, but he isn't my number one pick. Would you vote flinter?

I don't see it. I've got a town read on him, so no.

(reading the rest of the game now.)

[Empking]

I still think Empking needs to die; but I have no problem lynching Fate to shut him up. I mean he's being assisted by several other players, but he's right on track to destroy the game.

I agree with the last sentance of this post whole-heartedly.

[Fate]

I'm not sure how anyone can be blind enough to say I'm destroying the game, where in nearly every game I've been in scum have considered me a threat.

But oh look at this NO POSTINGS. And oh look at Empking SCUMMING IT UP!

Empking your vote is on AGM, hence you would THINK you agreed with my case on him and think him a worthy lynch based off my play.

How can you be TOWN and also think "yeah and we should lynch Fate hes destroying the game" when your VOTE is being placed based of my actions?

LOLSCUM BUDDYING DDD

[AlmasterGM]

God, I want to lynch Fate soooo bad but Empking is practically SCREAMING scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Why can't we finish him off then?

Mod: Prod Newbie2010, flinter, andrew

[Fate]

Empking is screaming scum because he IS scum, who woulda thunk.

I am screaming because I AM ME, and you're in your own little tunnel of paranoia and "HAH I CAUGHT FATE! I WANT GLORY! MY META IS UNDEFEATABLEEEEEEEE!"

So your choices include:
Push lynch on me->Egg on face
Lynch Empking->Save face

Then we lynch Hoopla and HIGH FIVES

[andrew94]

Why can't we finish him off then?

Mod: Prod Newbie2010, flinter, andrew

im modding a game, wait up

[Fate]

Hey scum, sup?