Open 276- Friends and Enemies Mafia (OVER)

[Albert B. Rampage]

While I can see how my hammer *could* be perceived as slightly scummy, how is my return scummy? I was on V/LA till Wednesday, and it's very early Wednesday morning. I'm back a tad early, but still. Would you rather I'd've lurked till Thursday instead?

I would rather you have posted content, and then voted for reasons we can dissect and assess.

I've been defending him, and we've had like a third of the playerlist not even here too. Empking could quite easily be a mason. I'll be dazzled if he's scum, because there's no way this town could manage to randomly lynch scum over all the potential mislynches scum could push.

Look, if he were a mason he would have said so lol

I can get it if you guys want to hammer him. I can't stop you guys from all agreeing he's super scummy or whatever. But lets at least play the game properly and ask for roleclaims in the future, because they do matter.

Lol whatever Hoopla

[Nobody Special]

And even if he claimed:

Mason: Wouldn't everyone agree he's far too scummy (which is why he'd been AT L-1 in the first place for so long)?

VT: Yeah, sure. Anyone would've hammered.

My point is, since everyone is saying how scummy Emp was, what would it matter if/what/whether he claimed?

I mean, yes, protocol is good and all that, but he was practically dripping scum.

Hoopla, dear, why are you stuck on this one point of protocol? Wishing and hoping your buddy could've been saved?

[Albert B. Rampage]

So NS, you think Fate and Hoopla and Empking are the scum? Massive distancing between Hoopla and Fate?

[Hoopla]

My point is, since everyone is saying how scummy Emp was, what would it matter if/what/whether he claimed?

I mean, yes, protocol is good and all that, but he was practically dripping scum.

Hoopla, dear, why are you stuck on this one point of protocol? Wishing and hoping your buddy could've been saved?

It's a perfectly valid protocol, because you can tell a lot from the way someone claims. Even if you deemed it unlikely Empking was a mason, you could still be wrong, and there could be ways to validate a claim (matching breadcrumbs with other masons for example).

I think you and ABR are being unnecessarily bullish, and as much as I hope I'm wrong about Empking being scum, I don't think I am, and I'm kind of annoyed that everyone on the Empking wagon is refusing to acknowledge it as a real possibility.

[Nobody Special]

*IF* Empking does flip scum (yeah, almost sure, but there's that little tiny doubt, always...) I could see Hoopla's inconsistency as scum waffling between distancing and bussing. And yes, Fate & Hoopla have been making what could amount to a pretty good show.

I also like the way that Hoopla has been convinced (convinced, I tell you!!) that Empking was Town; and now that it's twilight, she's sure he's scum.

[Albert B. Rampage]

And yes, Fate & Hoopla have been making what could amount to a pretty good show.

K

[Hoopla]

*IF* Empking does flip scum (yeah, almost sure, but there's that little tiny doubt, always...) I could see Hoopla's inconsistency as scum waffling between distancing and bussing. And yes, Fate & Hoopla have been making what could amount to a pretty good show.

I also like the way that Hoopla has been convinced (convinced, I tell you!!) that Empking was Town; and now that it's twilight, she's sure he's scum.

Sorry, that last post was a typo - double negatives throw me in a loop sometimes. You know what I meant though.

I hope I'm wrong about Empking being town.

I've always been quite confident Empking is town, and I still am now. I'm disappointed that nobody else has really considered it.

[mothrax]

Votecount the Third (2.0)

Empking (6): Debonair Danny DiPietro, Nachomamma8, Albert B. Rampage, Fate, AlmasterGM, Nobody Special

Fate (1): Hoopla
AlmasterGM (1): Empking


Not Voting: andrew95, Nobobdy Special, Newbie2010, Flinter

With

11

alive it takes

6

to Lynch.

Mod Notes:
Seeking replacements for Newbie2010 and flinter
Lynch has been reached.

Deadline is Wednesday, February 21st at 9:00 pm EST

[mothrax]

As the day drug on, everyone kept pointing fingers at Empking. He managed to distract the group for a few days, but in the end they decided to string him up!

Empking,

Mafia Goon

: Lynched Day 2

Deadline for Night 2 is Saturday February 12th at 9:00 AM

[mothrax]

Battousai replaces Newbie2010 effective immediatly. Give him cookies!

Also, LynchMePls replaces flinter! Thanks guys!

[mothrax]

Opening the thread early since I won't be around when deadline hits...

You look around you, expecting the carnage this time. It doesn't take you long to find the body of Nachomamma8 strewn across the ground near an open bag of tortilla chips. It looks like the baddies were hoping he was made of cheese.

Nachomamma8,

Vanilla Townie

; Dismembered Night 2

It is now Day 3.

Deadline is Saturday, March 5th at 9:00 A.M.

[Battousai]

My scum reads so far are: Hoopla, lynchmepls, ABR (helped by 256), NS (based on empking’s 265) with the last two backed by Empking's flip.

Also, I'm pretty sure there is at least one scum among Empking's Null list:

Hoopla
Newbie2010
Albert B. Rampage
Debonair Danny DiPietro

Vote: ABR

[Fate]

<3 nacho
VOTE: Hoopla

[AlmasterGM]

Sexy scumflip. ATTN: ANDRIUS: TRY NOT BEING OBVSCUM NEXT TIME.

I've always been quite confident Empking is town, and I still am now. I'm disappointed that nobody else has really considered it.

This is making throwing a vote down extremely difficult.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Explain your vote:

If this were near deadline, and say Andrius and parknourie were at L-1, with you having not voted yet. Who would you choose?

I would vote for Andrius but IGMEO both of these key players. Andrius, now Empking, was lurking and avoiding the game and parnourie was posting scummy.

Vote: Hoopla

[AlmasterGM]

I'm just having trouble believing Hoopla could be SO BAD at being mafia.

I know it's a silly argument, but she seems so smart (with all those statistics and analysis of the Normal queue and stuff). If she's scum, her play here is beyond slippage ... it's downright TERRRRIBLE.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Co-sign everything AGM just said.

[LimMePls]

I'm just having trouble believing Hoopla could be SO BAD at being mafia.

I know it's a silly argument, but she seems so smart (with all those statistics and analysis of the Normal queue and stuff). If she's scum, her play here is beyond slippage ... it's downright TERRRRIBLE.

So is this a form of "too scummy to be scum" argument? Cause those are silly.

Vote: Hoopla

L-2

[Nobody Special]

Given what happened yesterday, I'm comfortable with doing this:

Vote: Hoopla

L-1

[AlmasterGM]

So is this a form of "too scummy to be scum" argument? Cause those are silly.

Vote: Hoopla

I agree but I feel like what's going on here is just too polarizing.

If Hoopla is scum she is practically THROWING herself at us.

[Albert B. Rampage]

I think we should wait for Hoopla to claim.

[Albert B. Rampage]

She would do the same for us.

[Fate]

Hammer her.

Hoopla defending her buddy blatantly isn't her "being bad" it was her play tacticly.

It got park lynched d1 isntead of me and yesterday she almost got me mislynched instead.

Don't let her hide under the guise of "why would I as scum"

[Fate]

Last post should read "park instead of andrius"

Andrius loses many respects, btw.

[Hoopla]

GET THE FUCK OFF ME. I AM A MASON. AND I CAN PROVE IT. GET OFF MY WAGON.