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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 8:34 am

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Vote Count #36

Shadow Dancer: Fate, RedCoyote, crypto, Jarti (L-2)
AlmasterGM: zoraster, VP Baltar,
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Concission: Vigilante Ventriloquist
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Jarti

Jarti:
Vigilante Ventriloquist


Not voting:
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Deadline is on March 12th, 2011, at 2:00 PM central time.

With 12 alive, it takes 6 to end the day immediately.

With no new votes until deadline, Shadow Dancer will be placed on guillotine.


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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 7:54 pm

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This game went hella down my bookmarks.


TIME TO BUS SCUMBAGS!

Oh wait RC's already voting...
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:15 pm

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Unvote. Vote: Shadow Dancer
(L-1)


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Post #1048 of Shadow Dancer's actually simply makes no sense. It has no townie flow to it.
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:00 am

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AGM sure got unpopular quickly for nothing he did whatsoever.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:55 am

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LL is late to bus. AGMs given a benefit of doubt for the moment.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:09 am

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Yeah, that seems like an odd perspective to me, particularly coming from the people that were against letting Sim live yesterday. AGM's reaction and claim are far worse than Sim's were. Does not compute.
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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:12 am

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SDs lolhop was scumbaggery though.

AGM has a different style than Sime, so sure his reaction will be different.
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:40 am

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I agree that it looks like a bus from SD, but a scum in hand is worth two on the gallows....or something like that. Killing AGM is a good idea.
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:04 am

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Vote Count #37

Shadow Dancer: Fate, RedCoyote, crypto, Jarti, LuckayLuck (L-1!)

AlmasterGM: zoraster, VP Baltar, Concission
RedCoyote: GLaDOS, Shadow Dancer
zoraster: AlmasterGM,
LuckayLuck

Concission: Vigilante Ventriloquist

Not voting:
No one.

On guillotine:
No one.

Deadline is on March 12th, 2011, at 2:00 PM central time.

With 12 alive, it takes 6 to end the day immediately.

With no new votes until deadline, Shadow Dancer will be placed on guillotine.


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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:08 am

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Bus/Mislynch hop, EITHER WAY you vote the guy with the shady as fuck vote FIRST. Why do you have such a desire to switch back to AGM? I highly doubt all the bussing scum on AGM's wagon hopped over onto SD town, more likely scum decided "OH FFFF TIME TO BUS SHADOW NOW."


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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:33 am

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Why hello VPB + SD scumteam. Maybe I was just looking in the wrong place for the lurker. Zoraster's off the hook for now. LuckayLuck is still scum hiding (seriously, check his posting ratio between yesterday and today, it's like 10:1) and then popping in for the last minute bus.

I'll hammer. Any objections?

VPB getting owned in the face and then lynched will be sooooooo sexy when SD flips scum.
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 10:34 am

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AGM I SAVED YOU FROM DEATH AND ALL YOU HAVE TO SAY IS DERPDERP ILL HAMMER?


GIMME REAL CONTENT AND REASON TO HAVE SAVED YOU FROM ROPE
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:00 am

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See, Fate - AGM, Luck, RC? I've got some scummy as shit votes up my arse. And what for? Voting AGM...
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:08 am

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And every one else is trying to outlurk even AGM...
And by the way. Baltar is still town - hell annoyingly erratic town - but still as town as any big accumulation of buildings.
But, yeah, people ignore me for some reason ;..(
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 11:59 am

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Drowning in work. Will have to reread.
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:30 pm

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In the process of looking through votes from today. Should be done within the hour if I don't get massively distracted. Don't do anything stupid without me.
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:45 pm

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Why have you been on my ass so much today if I'm a strong town read SD? Also, what do you mean by erratic?
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:46 pm

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Also, good to see you AGM. Anything else to comment on other than your willingness to hammer and save your ass for another day? Cause I very much object to that.
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:47 pm

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Here is something I'd like you to answer AGM, why is SD scum? You haven't said really much of anything about him all game, and especially not any kind of scum read lately.
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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:40 pm

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Okay, something realllly fishy is going on here. I read Concission in iso and I read (well, most of...) Shadow Dancer in iso. Concission's was easy to read. It fits on one page. It's a nice little exercise. I still have no idea how people consider Shadow Dancer scummier. There is no way in hell we start the day with a wagon on Concission, have everyone suddenly switch to AGM, and then everyone switch to SD just as suddenly.
It makes no sense
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Here's a quick rundown of votes cast today:
Spoiler: Votes
Format: Post #whatever - Player1 unvotes Player 2 {new # of votes on player 2} votes Player 3 {new # of votes on Player 3} (comments)
A lot of the early votes might have no comments, since they all seem to just be carried over from yesterday.
Post #809 - Simenon votes Concission {1}
Post #812 - Crypto votes Concission {2}
Post #815 - LL votes Jarti {1}
Post #818 - GLaDOS votes RC {1}
Post #819 - Fate votes RC {2}
Post #824 - Fate unvotes RC {1} votes LL {1} (seemingly for being wrong about GLaDOS)
Post #825 - RC votes Fate {1} (because...umm...he thinks Fate picked up on Ythill being tracker? Looking at it again, his "There are a couple of other people I think may have picked up on it as well, but I think they're much more townie sounding than Fate has been." actually sounds a bit odd, but I'm not so interested in RC right now.)
Post #829 - VP votes Concission {3}
Post #831 - Concission votes VP {1}
Post #843 - VV votes Concission {4}
Post #844 - Crypto unvotes Concission {3} votes VP {2} (later explains this as trying to get a reaction)
Post #846 - Simenon unvotes Concission {2} votes LL {1} (reason: "LL's case against GLADOS and Jarti looks particularly ridiculous now, and his posts have been so blatant in their scummy rhetoric that I simply can't believe he's town.")
Post #848 - Jarti votes VP {3}
-Simenon is killed-
Post #857 - Fate unvotes LL {0} votes RC {2} (for bad vote on himself; +lolpoints for supplying valid reasons for voting himself)


Okay, I'm actually kind of falling asleep right now. I haven't gotten to anything useful yet as far as votes are concerned....maybe after a nap? If you haven't actually read what's in the spoiler yet, you really don't have to. It turns out I probably could have started around where I left off and not missed anything.
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:08 pm

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What are you trying to say when you say it "makes no sense"? Do you think scum is driving things? Do you think town is being lazy? what?

Oh, and I'm back from V/LA and reasonably well caught up. Waiting on SD.
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:10 pm

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Leaning the former. Hoping sorting through votes will reveal something (I'm working on it!)
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:13 pm

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EBWOP: Well, I should word that better. I would be surprised if scum were "driving things," per se. I do expect to see scum somewhere along the lines jumping at the opportunity to help sway wagons in a different direction a bit. I actually think the SD wagon might be primarily town-driven, just thinking about how it formed, but that just makes the formation of the AGM wagon even more questionable, if half the players on it didn't really care so much about it.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 5:35 pm

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Vigilante Ventriloquist wrote:Okay, something realllly fishy is going on here. I read Concission in iso and I read (well, most of...) Shadow Dancer in iso. Concission's was easy to read. It fits on one page. It's a nice little exercise. I still have no idea how people consider Shadow Dancer scummier. There is no way in hell we start the day with a wagon on Concission, have everyone suddenly switch to AGM, and then everyone switch to SD just as suddenly.
It makes no sense
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I don't agree with your line of thinking at all that it's somehow 'fishy' or something, wagons happen. Wagons are good. But while I don't agree with your stance on it, your thought process here makes me think you're town.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Mon Mar 07, 2011 6:28 pm

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Continuing from where I left off:
Spoiler: More Votes
Post #862 - AGM votes LL {1} (Another suspicion carried over from previous day, but with added "He was Ythill and Simeon's primary suspect as well." Not quite sure what to make of the appeal to (dead) authority. Probably null.)
Post #871 - Crypto unvotes VP {2} votes Concission {3} (This is *probably* where the Concission wagon takes off (and I'll probably remove this comment if I see later stuff that says otherwise).)
Post #927 - Jarti unvotes VP {1} votes Concission {4} (I pointed out this post earlier, but I'm going to mention again that it's realllly worth looking at. The first line is just a complete cop-out and if you look a bit closer at the timing, his vote on VP came just 4 votes after Crypto's vote on VP, when VP was quickly becoming a viable lynch choice and his unvote of VP and switch to Concission comes in his first post since Crypto did exactly the same thing. Not sure what this points to about Concission, but I would say that anyone with a town read on Jarti should had better have a pretty damned good reason.)
Post #929 - Fate unvotes RC {1} votes AGM {1} (Fate has been completely in his own world the entire day to the extent that I'm not even sure he realizes half the players exist. I'm only familiar with Fate's play from parts of games I've read (I've never played with him), so I'm not sure if this is usual for him. ++scum points for Fate.)
Post #930 - Concission unvotes VP {0} votes zoraster {1} (zoraster? Huh? Where did that vote come from? This post very much reads as disheartened scum making a last ditch effort to me after the wagon he was on just died and he seems the likely lynch choice.)
Post #933 - zoraster votes AGM {2} (new wagon starting to take off; if there's any sort of scum involvement in moving the wagon from Concission to AGM, I'd expect to see it around here.)
Post #938 - AGM unvotes LL {0} votes zoraster {2}
Post #947 - VP unvotes Concission {3} votes AGM {3} (votes AGM so AGM will answer questions; interesting though that he decides to switch off of a wagon on one player he called scummy to a wagon on another player he called scummy that had fewer votes. It also goes along well with what I said two comments ago about expecting this to be around where scum would start pushing for a new wagon)
Post #948 - SD votes RC {2} (interesting he comments on the dying Concission wagon, but not the forming AGM wagon. Might be interesting to consider with his wagon hop later on)
Post #959 - VV unvotes Concission {2} votes Jarti {2} (ummm...can we just pretend I was high when I made this post and move on? >.>)
Post #968 - Concission unvotes zoraster {1} votes Jarti {3} (Trying to get a vote to stick? I don't know. This would be a hell of a strange time to bus and I feel at the moment like Concission is the more likely of the two to be scum. Jarti's defense of my vote from the previous post did kind of make sense. *note to self to figure out what the hell is going on with post #927*)
Post #982 - Jarti unvotes Concission {1} votes Fate {2} (Can't say I see this vote at all, but I don't know. Interesting that Fate later says Jarti is town for this.)
Post #991 - Fate unvotes AGM {2} votes LL {1} (From this post: "FINE. ILL VOTE WITH AGMSCUM ONTO LL. IF THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET MOMENTUM SO BE IT". Willing to consider the possibility I was wrong on Fate. I need to go back and check why I thought he was so town day 1.)
Post #992 - Fate unvotes LL {0} votes AGM {3} (Realizes there weren't actually any votes on LL)
Post #994 - Crypto unvotes Concission {0} votes AGM {4}


Okay, this is getting kind of tedious, so I'm stopping for now and resuming later. Where I left off is where all votes are off Concission and the wagon on AGM is really getting going (at 4 votes). The big thing this has shown me is that I really should reread Fate. Concission still looks like scum and twice as much so if Fate is scum with her (I probably referred to Concission as a he in the rest of the post, but I'm too lazy to go back and fix that). It would also resolve the Jarti-Concission issue in my head, since Fate-scum very likely means Jarti-town with his recent "NO, JARTI IS STUPID, HE'S OBVOBVOBVOBVOBVTOWN" defense.
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