Mafia Dating Game Show- TOWN WINS LOVE!

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Confirm.

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That is a good argument Llama, i'll go with you on this. I hate flakers.

Vote: Ani

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Save: Ani

My strongest town read of the 3.

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Llama, I have no objection to you policy lynching on day one, but consider this:

• Ani has towntold
• Ani is known for flaking

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He also makes posts about how he doesn't mind if he dies, which doesn't make sense considering that generally everyone is aiming to not get lynched, regardless of faction.

You clearly know very little about being vanilla.

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Save: Vezok

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I'm thinking this is a fairly generic setup, I very much doubt that the mafia have any more ability to screw with me without their Mafia RB, and i'm pretty confident of a Doctor presence in this game, so.....

Claim: Cop

I have an innocent on Mothrax.

Protect me at night, and I can work on getting some results until they find the doctor.

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He did press for a Gandalf save.

Vote: Nacho

There was a pretty substantial Gandalf save wagon at one point, though. Not sure why with how he played. Then again I still don't understand why Vezok was saved over Ani. (I hammered out of apathy)

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Gandolf (7) Almaster, saporovirus, tclawren, Regfan, mothrax, Nachomamma8, Uite

You lucky bachelors get to go on the rides first! Except Mothrax.

Vote #2: tclawren

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Please stop voting for people who were not on Gandalf's save wagon. There's no way he got to L-2 without scum contributing. Let's just systematically kill them off, and go from there.

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Thanks for pointing that out, I thought they were all scum.

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The fact the people keep talking about having a town read on me leads me to believe they haven't read my claim, so i'd like to re-post, it's important that everyone sees this before we go into night again.

I'm thinking this is a fairly generic setup, I very much doubt that the mafia have any more ability to screw with me without their Mafia RB, and i'm pretty confident of a Doctor presence in this game, so.....

Claim: Cop

I have an innocent on Mothrax.

Protect me at night, and I can work on getting some results until they find the doctor.

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Save: DN

Claims, please, the three of you.

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I take his silence to be a vanilla claim. Getting the feeling we aren't lynching scum today.

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Result: Guilty on Llama

He dies today regardless.

He will try to bullshit his way out of it, do not listen to him.

Vote: Llama

The other lynch needs to be one of the Gandalf savers.

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GreyICE, can you please choose between one of the Gandalf savers?

I don't want to kill Fate.

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I just saw tclawren browsing this forum.

No post, no comment or vote in reaction to my guilty.

He is now browsing the queue forum.

This is scummy.

Vote: Tclaw

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AlmasterGM or lurkerscum Saporovirus are both good choices for lynches if we go that way.

BUT FATE IS SHITTY SCUM GRRRRRRRRRRRRR

WHY DO I HAVE TO USE SUPERPOWERS TO KILL SCUMFATE?

You replaced Saporovirus...And he is the reason I think you are town...

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Fact is, she unvoted the Gandalf save wagon when he reached L-2, and his wagon had been quickly gaining momentum. Strong town tell imo. Not that I need to convince you that you are town.

Rico Act replaced WhenInRome.

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If you are a miller you should have claimed, at the latest, immediately after my claim. If you're town you have hurt your team a LOT by not claiming and having an investigation wasted on you. He's probably just gambitting scum though, I don't think Llama would make that mistake.

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I've been working on the assumption that the Janitor is one shot. And i'm pretty sure Nacho must have been town. Well, I guess we'll find out after today's lynches.

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Well Llama's flip woulda been a tech one to janitor >_>b

I believe her, and think she's town.

BUT YA KNOW MILLERS AND ALL THAT ========[ ]

If you believe me then dont lynch me. Pretty simple. This is the optimal play as miller, chance of it failing are pretty damn low, especially when it seems like I should be the one getting nightkilled over investigated. Seriously people, look up the "right" way to play this role, its exactly how I am playing. If you think you can get viewed as obv-town, do it and draw the kill. If you dont think you can, or are failing to do so, claim it. People who are just going "lol result" need to take a second to think about that crap.

Millers should claim at the start of Day 1. This minimizes the damage his role is going to do to the town. Then this situation can't arise, and town can't judge him as a normal player, or just lynch him on Day 1.

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Town can, I mean.

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I'm not ok with killing Grey or Rico. Blood and AGM are neutral to me, they would be ok lynches. I'd still like to remove the players on the Gandalf save wagon (other than Grey because of the sapo unvote), so i'd like to see Tclaw/AGM/Regfan up against Llama.

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I think that was the hammer on Llama. AGM is in 2nd place, and there is a 4 way tie for 3rd place, so i'm not sure how that's going to work.

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AGM, please go ahead and claim when you turn up.

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Unvote: Llama

I'll let someone who's not cleared make up that wagon and focus my votes on 2nd and 3rd place.

Mod: PLEASE can you replace Mothrax. He has not posted for almost 2 weeks and he PMed you explaining that he has RL issues. We need a player in his slot, currently there is not one.

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Can those of you that think Tclaw is town please explain/re-examine your read?

In my eyes he is scummy to the point of simply wanting him dead ASAP. Looking through his ISO I can't find anything that I even slightly consider to resemble a towntell.

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We're not fucking saving Llama. He dies today.

And yes, Tclaw needs more votes...

Mod: myself and regfan are currently voting Tclaw your count is wrong

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We're not fucking saving Llama. He dies today.

And yes, Tclaw needs more votes...

Mod: myself and regfan are currently voting Tclaw your count is wrong

Fixed, I didn't see your vote on Tclaw can you tell me what post please.
Also I missed Vezo voting twice, I didn't count Regfan's vote at the time seeing Llama at lynch.

Farside: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 1#p2947071

Also is it possible for you to prod AGM please?

Fixed vote count. Now official.
AGM has been prodded

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Vote: Llama

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You need to claim, AGM...

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Actually, you'll find that I have never voted you and that i've been gunning for other people.

Save: AGM

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And why aren't you targetting me at night? wtf.

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Ok, well please save me tonight so we can be sure I get another result.

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My vote on Llama was the hammer.

We have Llama, AGM, Tclaw in the hot seat.

We save AGM.

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Considering we've lynched scum two days in a row I'm guessing we're nowhere near a lylo situation

Pretty sure we'll have a 4 man scum team, so 5 mislynches in total. We have lynched correctly twice but also wrong twice, so don't get too happy about our situation. If we had a day where we lynched 2 townies, we would be in pretty poor shape.

I don't have any suspects outside of Llama and Tclaw at this time.

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The following players were on

neither

mafia lynch wagons: Mothrax, Tclaw, Rico, Grey.

Of these players, both Mothrax and Tclaw tried to save a mafia on Day 1.

I have an innocent on Mothrax.

This makes Tclaw objectively the scummiest player in the game, behind Llama.

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Hmm. That 3rd quote of his you have there actually looks like a towntell. Scum don't generally explicitly show disappointment about their buddies dying.

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Must be Pom. That would explain why Nacho just laid down and died, rather than claiming doctor.

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Unvote: Llama

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Wait a second. RegFan claimed mortician.

So basically what this Janitor ability does is it does NOT janitor the flip and instead unjanitors it, and potentially reveals the Janitor to a watcher-like effect.

There is so much bullshit involved here. Something is very wrong.

By the sounds of it, there's a full blown janitor who hasn't been using his ability as much as he could have.

Vote: Pom

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Yeah, I think there's likely a GF. Assuming we don't lynch scum today, would you rather I investigate Fate or Pom? Basically I have to try and find the Janitor tonight.

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I like having you around, Grey, but you are so widely suspected that you are clearly going to be lynched at some point. It might as well be today. Unless Tcl is in the same boat, but I don't think he is. And his claim has eased my suspicion of him.

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Some of the players here are really making me dis-enjoy this game.

I don't really care which of Tclaw and Grey we save at this point.

Save: Tclaw

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I just dont want to get lynched

This is not something a real miller would say.

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Doctor is in this setup to save the cop. Doctor saves me tonight, no fucking wifom.

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He's posted in other threads today. I don't know what's taking him so long.

Then you either aren't thinking or aren't paying attention (let me guess..both?). We know that there is a Janitor who can act during the day. It should be clear why there is a delay here.

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<3 Tclaw!

Result: Guilty on Pomegranate

So this is game over right?

Vote: Pom

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Save: Fate

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Thanks Regfan and Tclaw.

Regfan you played well but you were let down by your partners. Bussing the roleblocker on Day 1 was just dumb. I'm still surprised town managed to win though, with the amount of weak players/lack of effort from some townies.

Having a Nurse in the game is very harsh on mafia.

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And thanks Farside for modding and finally giving me a cool power-role!

I like the double lynch mechanic, worth using again imo.

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Nurses are always a very harsh role to include, but other than that I see no problem with it. You shouldn't have bussed you RB D1, Llama. It was entirely unnecessary, and i'm pretty sure mafia would have won if the RB had not been lynched Day 1. I never would got you lynched without that guilty, everyone was just following Fate who's reads were completely off.

I think Reg would have lasted to day four bubble of going up. He did a good enough job of holding his own in this game to not really take any flack, and played a great game to draw a cop investigation.

Um, I didn't investigate him?

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Well, the nurse had zero impact on this game anyway.

I was actually expecting the setup to be Cop, Doc, Mason, Mason, VTs for town and 4 mafia: RB, Goon x2 and either GF or 3rd Goon. Generic setup for trying out the new mechanic. That's why I claimed when the RB died. Was very surprised when Nacho got janitored.

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I can't tell whether you're arguing for the nurse to be excluded, or that it was the nurse presence that lost you the game. Nurse is, in my opinion, a role that has little or no place in mafia. But the nurse had absolutely nothing to do with this game, he never claimed or gained the power, he might as well have been vanilla.

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in a game where mafia has two nks i believe having a nurse was appropriate. ur gripe about the system is based on the rb being lynched d1. then after xtoxm claimed cop u didnt attempt to kill him or the person he cleared (me) u had two kill which means u could have targetted both of us. AGM could only protect one (and he didnt protect either) and as long as AGM was alive Fate couldn't protect anyone. Your loss has nothing to do with the balance of the game. Poor decision making in regards to the cop is what did that, because as long as you left Xtoxm alive all we had to do was follow the cop

There was nothing wrong with their play in that regard, AGM not protecting me was just dumbtarded. Any sensible mafia would expect the Doctor to be on the Cop 100% of the time. The only real question was whether or not a Doctor was actually in the game, and if they wanted to risk one of their kills on that chance.