There Will Be Bloodshed (Game Over)

[silverbullet999]

Well my retirement is postponed... andd....
so many people i know... this is gonna be chaotic woo!

VOTE: Agar

cause he became a fun loving zombie last we played if memory serves me right?

-Pine

I'll post TL;DR summaries when it occurs to me to do so.

Good boy!

[silverbullet999]

-Pine

I am not your dog. You may be confusing the wolf pup in your avatar with me. Additionally, I may be new to these boards, but I don't appreciate being talked down to.

Your sensitivity is as fragile as the leaves of a pine tree...
the good boy was not meant as an insult... i'll rephrase it to... good "insert whatever you like in a noninsulting manner here"

I'll read what you post to me... and your TLDR's... but that's about it.

[silverbullet999]

*couldn't stop laughing for quite awhile*

ahem...

hmmm agar where you at...

hydra's are slightly hard to read... grrrr


Calc:

NEUTRAL: GreyICE (leaning scum)

Shouldn't he be thrown under your list of SCUM then? ....

[silverbullet999]

There's an equation that proves that women = evil also.

Math is fun!

[silverbullet999]

Cookie... i thought we played together once...

[silverbullet999]

I don't really remember much of that (because I flaked )

I flaked in that game too... no excuses!

[silverbullet999]

*looks at player's list... looks at antihero...*
*repeats 3 times*
*is confused and laughs*

[silverbullet999]

nope no more confusion... though didn't we also play a game together as that alt? O_O

[silverbullet999]

-Agar

There he is!

UNVOTE:

Also I believe in the latest game where you got nked your bah post was BRAINSSSS!

Spoiler: The amazing formula

Women = Time
Time = Money
Money = The Root of All Evil
Therefore, Women = The Root of All Evil

Almost,
Women = Time X Money
Time = Money
Thus
Women = Money^2
Money = The Root of All Evil
Therefore, Women = Evil.

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Anyways, I'm not sure I fully see the confid wagon... yet... then again as he said he always seems to have cases built on him early.

[silverbullet999]

Is it weird that I find it strange that two players stated when they were going to bed?

[silverbullet999]

I'll admit that for now.

1.pine
2.cworl
3. [winger]

in no particular order

[silverbullet999]

Silver, that list was terrible.

Is it terrible.... cause i'm right?

[silverbullet999]

Empking expand.

Grey, if you want reasoning i'll give it to ya... just ask... though ten bucks says you *headslam* several times.

[silverbullet999]

Don't say I didn't warn you about the head slam...
Pine & Cworl- not the above reasons posted by others... but both of them saying i'm going to bed, makes me feel like they are secretly communicating with eachother to tell each of them that they won't be available later on. It's like they are trying to defend themselves from worrying that a case would be built on them while they are away thus to insure against that they state that they will be away.
*proceed with head slamming now to hearts content*
winger- post 131

Preview Edit:
Empking
-fair enough

[silverbullet999]

-Friend

top 3 scum suspects...

gogogo

[silverbullet999]

hmmmm....

VOTE: wraith

[silverbullet999]

Had a plan.. going to diverge from it

VOTE: Pine

-Pine

Good god. Have a nice 10-hour spring break sleep and wake up to a lynch mob.

It only takes 4 to lynch?

I was declaring my intent not to respond to anything for a while, as I'd be unconscious.

That's the point... you worried about people getting on you for not responding asap. A worry that tends from pressure.

Right now, I'm taking on water. I'll return to actual scumhunting once I've bailed out and gotten back on course. I've noticed things, but I don't think they'd be taken seriously by about half the group right now.

As it only takes half + 1 to reach a lynch... I'd suggest you scum hunt rather than worry about yourself.

-Emp

FoS: Silver - I see the logic in his last post but it seems wierd that all the other weren't worthy of a vote but Wraith was.

Look at wraith's first game in mafia scum.

-Winger

So, all newbies?

Aren't defenses of i'm just a noob more or less supposed to be thought of through the player himself?
Are you yourself claiming a newbcard or nay?

[silverbullet999]

This might be the most laughable case I've ever seen.

Oh I've had worse cases... funniest thing is that sometimes I was right.

-Calc
Which of you did post 173

[silverbullet999]

Does matter
which is it.

[silverbullet999]

-Calc
if you post once more and don't answer I'm going to assume it's nacho

UNVOTE:

-Friend

Silverbullet - you, confidAnon, wraith.

Confid I know
wraith I'm going to assume is because of the little content,
me I'd like to know more of

[silverbullet999]

Silverbullet, you really need more on you? You've done nothing this game. AT ALL.

Wagon on silverbullet. Now people.

1. You apparently haven't been reading any of my recent posts.
2. Besides complaining about my supposed inactivity... what else have you yourself been doing?


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I still want a response from calc.

[silverbullet999]

-Friend

Silver, your recent posts were alright, but it took way too much prodding to get them there.

Wasn't the only prodding the one post where you voted me...

C-Worl/Silver, before you taking GreyICE's word for it that I'm not doing anything, can you please read my posts first? Thanks.

Not taking GreyICE's word... you basically stated that I've done nothing a few times and called GreyIce case on you bullshit.
Thus it can be summarized as
1. you posted your views on players
2. you defended yourself
... that's about it

VOTE: Friend
Exaggeration is a baddie.

-Winger
what cworl said

[silverbullet999]

am I allowed to head desk? well screw it i'm doing it anyway.

*headdesk*
-Gray

Silver's were MUCH worse, frankly...

I was first to admit this though some people have stated they agree with the reasoning...

-Friend

This is scummy as all hell.

unvote, vote: Wraith

Expand On This NOW. How are his 2 statements remotely scummy.

-Confid

ConfidAnon agrees.

I hate you...

-All
regardless we need a wagon on friend now... his statements have been exaggerative and far fetched, he's called for a wagon on me, he then quickly switches to a wagon that seems to have more support when he's failed to launch a wagon on me.

*headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk**headdesk*

[silverbullet999]

-Agar

Hydra theory is that it doesn't unless you're trying to meta the hydra. Which you shouldn't be doing. Trust me.

Eh Nacho pulled a small gambit like that in my first game ever where it was likely i'd get lynched and he said guy's... he's town.
Then again he put up a much bigger case on why townpoints were earned vs. just saying trust me.
Nonetheless was curious

Also *headdesk*
I'm really getting disturbed that no one else is catching Friend's slips...
Friend good job at ignoring my question completely...

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP:
Nacho was scum that game

[silverbullet999]

I kind of want you guys to lynch me to prove that Calcifer is not really all that smart or good or all-knowing. Same with Ice. This game has already gone to shit.

Frustrated scum much?

[silverbullet999]

-Wraith

Now, someone explain to me why Friend is being wagoned.

Read my posts...
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*sees that friend has posted yet again*
*sees that friend has not yet answered his questions and is still complaining*
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-Evil Pacman

silver's scum read list is interesting. It's something that's easy to do. New players ALWAYS look scummy. It's hard to realize that mathematically (since that's a common theme in this thread) there's basically no way that all the new players are scum.

Do you say this before reading my reasons or after?

[silverbullet999]

-Friend

I've fucking tried. I don't like making textwalls. My cases almost always come in the form of short sentences. Gahd.

Where? And Are You EVER going to explain why that one post wraith made was "scummy as hell".

[silverbullet999]

*seconds the Friend wagon*

[silverbullet999]

Friend... is scummyererer

[silverbullet999]

*headdesk*

[silverbullet999]

[silverbullet999]

-nhammen

I'm thinkin on that.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Explain what about Wraith's quote was "scummy as hell"

You do realize I asked this a couple pages ago and have since been constantly ignored about it... right?

[silverbullet999]

I feel like hammen threw that in there to spite me...

....

Or maybe he's trying to dissuade the theory because I was correct and he's protecting his scumbuddies?!

[silverbullet999]

Perhaps someone can enlighten me regarding the merits of continuing to pile onto the Friend wagon?

Friend = scum.

[silverbullet999]

Calcifer's recent string of posts has me say this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV1fUwKMdAI

[silverbullet999]

*hides in bunker before the flame war commences*

[silverbullet999]

Friend is the way to go day 1 people......

[silverbullet999]

-TwoHeaded

Tons of fluff posts and Friend-pushing with not a lot of other content?

Seriously? I mean... seriously? no joke? are you kidding?
Aren't I the one that started the gad damn friend wagon in the first place. Aren't I the one that questioned friend and had him show the failscum that he was? No Of Course Not.. I'm just a gad damn joke apparently, just a gad damn joke.

[silverbullet999]

That's because the base of friend has already been built! There's no point unless Friend miraculously comes back and actually answers questions posted to him and becomes useful!!

[silverbullet999]

FRIEND you have still completely ignored my question I posted to you and have constantly reminded you of.
FOR THE 10TH TIME POST 234

[silverbullet999]

Silver, you know I answered that question, right?

Point out where please.

[silverbullet999]

I'm committed unless friend points out where he actually answered my question

ib baseless friend-pushing claims again.

[silverbullet999]

-Friend
I'm gonna take this

And silver, you can look through my posts. It's there. It'll be like a little game!!

as "I never actually did answer your question cause I'm actually scum! I'd rather waste your time and effort looking through my posts some more rather than just give you a straight up answer because honestly... i really didn't answer and i'm stalling for time!"

Do I win a prize?

[silverbullet999]

-Friend

Christ.. next time make it clear ala my style or something of the sort
like
Silver,
Wraith keeps asking the same questions.. etc etc etc.

Also don't do treasure hunts anymore plz.

Anyway

let me ask about your answer and comment on them and please verify that my assumptions are correct and answer any questions asked.
1.he's asking questions that people have already asked: Refresh my memory, Is this the question to Calc? As that's the only question you quoted i'd assume yes
2.he's being vague about the Pine wagon: Can you explain how him saying I don't get the pine wagon means he's being vague about it?
3. and he's slightly rolefishing: Gotten from... the question again?

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP

Should have bolded the 1. 2. 3. reasons in reflection apologies.

[silverbullet999]

If you think he's town, say why you think he's town.

You are deflecting my question back to me. I never said I think he's town or scum.

Again please answer these

let me ask about your answer and comment on them and please verify that my assumptions are correct and answer any questions asked.
1.he's asking questions that people have already asked:

Refresh my memory, Is this the question to Calc? As that's the only question you quoted i'd assume yes

2.he's being vague about the Pine wagon:

Can you explain how him saying I don't get the pine wagon means he's being vague about it?

3. and he's slightly rolefishing:

Gotten from... the question again?

This

He's not taking a stance on the Pine wagon (in that quote). Simply saying "I don't get it" doesn't add anything at all to the discussion.

did not answer any of my above questions (now bolded for convenience)

[silverbullet999]

Why are you being so overly defensive and being so hard in trying to be open and explaining yourself.

My first question is now answered.

My second question is now answered.

Please point out where you answered the question about rolefishing once more (or simply state what post or iso post it's in).

[silverbullet999]

Alright I'm just gonna assume the answer if your going to continue to play hard ball with me. If you want to redefine it later you go right ahead and try but I tried continuously to have you be perfectly clear and you refuse thus,,,

I am officially calling for Friend's Lynch FULLY one-hundred percent... he needs to die

(not that I didn't feel this way before... but seriously now more than ever)

Here's why
TLDR: FRIEND NEEDS TO DIE

We are finally enlightened by the Great Friend of his answer to my question where he stated that Wraith's post is scummy as hell.
(And he's surprised by this even though he was asked a few times by me and two other players, retards are us all apparently)
Thus I ask him 3 questions about it.

1.he's asking questions that people have already asked: Refresh my memory, Is this the question to Calc?

His reply is that I am correct in this assumption. He states that many people had asked this and it was beating a dead horse.
My second question

2.he's being vague about the Pine wagon:

He states that he didn't take a position on it, thus he was being useless and being vague about the wagon. I feel that wraith stating he doesn't get it more or less implies he is looking for an explanation thus I don't really see how this is scummy.
My third question

3. and he's slightly rolefishing:

He is being a hardass and says it's obvious. I'm going to thus assume that from wanting an explanation from Calcifer he is rolefishing.

This is where the inconsistency is. Obviously friend feels wraith is rolefishing and finds it suspicious, yet also admits that this same question was asked by others, why did friend specifically focus on wraith? With this same logic, the multiple other people would then also be rolefishing thus he should also find them suspicious, but nowhere does he state this. He simply accepts someone's explanation one post after and votes me again.

More or less my guess with his slight attack on wraith was him trying to earn town cred by starting a wagon and making it look justified, however he realizes it's not going to work and backs out and sloppily throws reasons together when asked, hidden away and playing so hard to have us not find the damn answer.

LYNCH FRIEND DAY 1

[silverbullet999]

1. Bull
2. You still played hard ball in revealing your case initially
3. You still played hard ball in answering my questions
4. I didn't do either of the three, yet you found me more suspicious apparently at the time because I wasn't doing anything

Fallacies are Fallacies Scum

[silverbullet999]

*post 455 will be somewhat questionable if Friend somehow through some miracle flips town*

[silverbullet999]

-_-

C-Worl you'll also be involved in the questionableness

[silverbullet999]

Pine do you think friend is scum or town?

Raikiri's wall confuses me

[silverbullet999]

-Pine

I'm reasonably confident in my vote on Friend.

Soooo scum more or less.

-Hiraki

Y'know when they say being concise is pro-town. They sure as hell don't mean this.

I was heavily heavily tempted to post a long post with random numbers, comments, more comments which start to resemble rants... pretty pictures, A FEW ALL CAPS SENTENCES and more quotes with random comments, but i think you get the picture.

[silverbullet999]

Small example

Silver wrote:
regardless we need a wagon on friend now... his statements have been exaggerative and far fetched, he's called for a wagon on me, he then quickly switches to a wagon that seems to have more support when he's failed to launch a wagon on me.

That's because um. People are being idiots and ignoring you for being town.

err sarcasm? or... rant? or... i don even know.

[silverbullet999]

-Pine

rgr that

[silverbullet999]

Your sarcasm is horrible...
especially with this following right after

Was that the big secret guys? Sorry!

seems more like you trollin

[silverbullet999]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yldgS-yS ... re=related

*silverbullet999 likes this*

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki

Silver, unfortunately, is confirmed VI

I win this rank again? Hmmm I feel like it's been awhile but I might be horribly wrong and be on a streak....
Curious though, what has you say VI instead of SI.

also once you finish up reading (or did you already?) can you throw up some say... evidence of friends super towninenesses?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
Sorry if I border on repetitive if not retardation or some other word you'd like to insert here but let me edit part of my above post

can you throw up some say... evidence of friends not being scum?

Also
Because of my logic, I'm VI... i guess.. but because of my logic... i'm not scum... thus... i'm not SI?

[silverbullet999]

This

I mean, it's like if my posts aren't a textwall you don't read them and then call me out for doing nothing. It's fucking ridiculous.

Screams "be sympathetic to me", to me

-Hiraki
Reasons or Reason why Friend is Not Scum... NOW

[silverbullet999]

I still like hiraki's method of let's not provide evidence as to why Friend is not scum, just simply take his word for it.

[silverbullet999]

[silverbullet999]

*dodges the ball*

[silverbullet999]

Pine's scum. Don't trust the people defending me - they know how I'm gonna flip. Easy town cred when I do.

What are your reads of everyone else?

[silverbullet999]

So from rank for you it'd be

1. Pine
2. Confid / THB
3. Calc

?

[silverbullet999]

hydras- The only acceptable reason to talk to "yourself" on mafiascum

[silverbullet999]

What clock are you looking at pine?

[silverbullet999]

I actually don't mind the "OMG NO!" bickering, so ignore agar's attempts to force you to do otherwise

[silverbullet999]

alright, time to go back to day 1 and reread the dead players.

[silverbullet999]

I have a post written up from the Night on Word, but I can't access it now. It'll show Calicifer scum.

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
Your big whole word document was just that half a page... really...

[silverbullet999]

Pine, who are your top 3 scum susp...

[silverbullet999]

aren't we moving rather.... fast here?

[silverbullet999]

So is it wraith or jerbs that's the scum buddy? or both?

[silverbullet999]

@ parama

[silverbullet999]

nevermind I can't read apparently

[silverbullet999]

Posting to avoid prod... need to play catch up at some point

[silverbullet999]

VOTE: wraith

[silverbullet999]

-Rom

too, but why start that wagon

What makes you think a wagon would start from my post?

about everyone has made their suspicions of Wraith known.

I did a quick iso of you and found you mentioning Wraith twice. The current post and the post where you stated Wraith is your other top scum read (though you don't detail this with the exception of saying they are based on Day 1 voting records. However you don't detail how the voting records leave you to believe this... similarities I see).

My vote will go back to Jerbs if and when we need a hammer, but for now, Silver has the most recent, most scummy post to date.

If you are saying this... doesn't that technically mean you still feel Jerbs to be scummier, why so quick to hop off the jerbs wagon?

[silverbullet999]

-Rom

1) Your definition and mine of wagon are obviously different. But you obviously don't want anyone to follow your vote because you don't believe you are starting a wagon. Interesting.

What is your definition of a wagon.. because the most obvious and normal definition of a wagon is multiple votes getting cast on a player. You even admit that I'm going to "start a wagon" so please don't try to hide and redefine the word. I ask again why did you think my vote was going to start a magical wagon.

I gave what my reasoning was based on.

Now here's the funny thing with that. Had you actually studied the voting patterns (thus looked at votes being cast) you'll have seen that day 1 I voted wraith. Had you actually looked at the posts where people voted (and thus seen the post where I voted), you'd also have seen that I did the same exact thing day 1 to see if wraith would react (he even calls me out on it). Thus I think your actual "reasons" are bullshit and you are lieing.

There is more than one scum in this game. And putting you in the spotlight is the best use of my vote. And it worked, as this is the most content you have posted in a while.

I think you saw an opportunity to make an action look scummy and hopped on it asap to win some town points. Unfortunately you failed to remember the past.

I've answered all your questions, please answer mine.

Same to you now.

VOTE: Romanus

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP
-Rom
Also this

I will never give details as to my reasoning

makes your previous post completely hypocritical... and is a nice excuse to not explain why you think this person or that is scummy.

[silverbullet999]

-Rom
It's almost like you didn't even read my post... nice

I'm calling you a liar because if you did actually look at votes to see voting patterns you would have seen my wraith vote on day 1.

As for your question..

Why did you vote for Wraith?

I'll quote you the answer

Had you actually studied the voting patterns (thus looked at votes being cast) you'll have seen that day 1 I voted wraith. Had you actually looked at the posts where people voted (and thus seen the post where I voted), you'd also have seen that I did the same exact thing day 1 to see if wraith would react (he even calls me out on it)

I'm diggin my vote now though, that's for sure

[silverbullet999]

-Rom
... are you serious dude? Do you want me to bolden it for you? Christ now I know how parama felt... Let's try this again

Why did you vote for Wraith on Day 2?

Had you actually studied the voting patterns (thus looked at votes being cast) you'll have seen that day 1 I voted wraith. Had you actually looked at the posts where people voted (and thus seen the post where I voted), you'd also have seen that I did the same exact thing day 1

to see if wraith would react

(he even calls me out on it)

Why are you voting for me, now, on Day 2?

Had you actually studied the voting patterns (thus looked at votes being cast) you'll have seen that day 1 I voted wraith. Had you actually looked at the posts where people voted (and thus seen the post where I voted), you'd also have seen that I did the same exact thing day 1 to see if wraith would react (he even calls me out on it)

I think you saw an opportunity to make an action look scummy and hopped on it asap to win some town points. Unfortunately you failed to remember the past.

[silverbullet999]

-Rom
I take it you finally understand my case against you.

[silverbullet999]

rom was the better way to go me thinks

[silverbullet999]

Don't you mean

"I gotta badddd feeling about this"

[silverbullet999]

*agrees with c-worl*

[silverbullet999]

-Cupcake

I'm waaaaah?

what's waah?

----

Let's not so quickly forget rom's twilight post...

VOTE: rom

[silverbullet999]

-Rom

Silver said, after the hammer, but before the reveal that I should have been lynched.

1. I wanted you lynched before the lynch occurred on jerbs, nor did I ever throw support towards Jerbs

However, it strikes me as scummy that Silver distances himself from the lynch before knowing the alignment of the character and simultaneously plants a seed for the next day.

Thus this reasoning is completely wrong. Furthermore this reasoning AGAIN proves your lie as you had stated that any reads you initially had were from vote patterns. I didn't put my vote on Jerb's once yet again you somehow fail to catch this even though you stated you studied the votes.

I do find it slightly interesting that you don't specifically call the tell a scum tell though and more or less imply it.

[silverbullet999]

Rom,

You claimed at the end I attempted to distance myself from the jerbs lynch. If I never supported the jerbs lynch though, how am I further distancing myself from it?

if I base a vote on voting patterns

You never based a vote on voting patterns because you never read the voting patterns.

Way to ignore me saying I find it a little interesting. It's a small psychological thing for you to just say tells. But your implication that I'm stretching here just further proves you are now worried about it.

[silverbullet999]

Pine,

who else is getting sucked in?

[silverbullet999]

-Pine

Everyone voting for Romanus

Let's see... people voting for Rom is.... me...
People voting for Rom yesterday is... me...

[silverbullet999]

-Pine
1. You said VOTED
2. Icey UNVOTED
3. So my case and reasoning has solely been the reason why multiple others have suspicions of rom? So rom hasn't acted scummy at all on his own?
4. If you wanna throw evidence as drivel with no explanation and claim rom town through no explanation, you go right ahead, you are getting a tad defensive of him though bud.

[silverbullet999]

You seemed to miss the point of 4

pro-Town things he's done

Expand on this.

[silverbullet999]

-Pine

the burden of proof is on you

Glad you didn't say this because you would be wrong... as I've given cases that you called dribble... stated that my case has gotten 4 others suspicious of him... and also stated that my case reveals "maginifies" his scummy actions.

#884 just looks weird the more i read it...

[silverbullet999]

So.. Pine.... you said you'd state pro-town rom... I don't see that post yet... yet you posted...

did you forget or just realize there's no such thing as town rom?

[silverbullet999]

waitttt... I completely forgot about diddin...

*WIFOM WARNING*
he's an outted double voting pr....
why's he still alive?
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damn it do we have anyway of knowing if we are at mylo or lylo?

[silverbullet999]

how do we know they exist without having a night that ends up with a no kill?

[silverbullet999]

rgr wilco. back to rom.. and pine

[silverbullet999]

not sure that works, unless you want to consider pine's attack on wraith simply bussing.

[silverbullet999]

Pine, It'd be really nice if you posted that case where rom = town. You don't have to make a huge wall about it. Hell I'll even say to break up the wall in parts, go through roms posts and show different parts where he's pro town at different times if you are really that lazy/busy.

[silverbullet999]

-Pine

Busy, not lazy.

Hence the /

sooo where is the wall

[silverbullet999]

I have a chunk of time right now, though, so I'll waste a bunch of time pointing out what you should already have seen

And if you reread that you see ... well I guess we got a liar now.

[silverbullet999]

Geez you are getting increasingly frustrating to deal with Pine.

I've asked you to state your case. You said you will. You said you will at a later time when you have some free time. Then you finally say you have some free time but apparently you got distracted and decided to do something else with it. I've been patient and have waited for you to present a case yet you still cease to do so while simultaneously still making posts.

You've said the case I've had on rom is bullshit yet you also claim my case is agreed with others and have them voting or wanting to vote for rom. You keep bitching that "rom is town, leave him alone the case presented by silver is a joke" yet don't supply any reasons... more or less demanding that we just simply trust your almighty vision and wisdom.

To be frank I'm getting sick of it, and I don't know if I'm finding these actions scummy because of how frustrating and arrogant you are becoming or if they are because you are genuinely being scummy but I'd suggest you stop being an arrogant donkey, stop bitching and moaning, and actually make a productive post for once in this game.

[silverbullet999]

Huh? Explain please

What you quoted was in relation to Empking suggesting that masons don't exist

I don't think that quite works since pine is so adamant in attacking wraith.

[silverbullet999]

hmmm that does make more sense...

[silverbullet999]

-Pine
Thank you for
A. producing the case
B. It not being a huge huge wall and quite readable

Now that I see your reasoning, I'd like to interject something and hope for a further response.

You state Rom's first post, now I'm not sure I agree with the reasoning because you are stating the motivation behind it assuming you are a townie, and the rest of us don't know that for a fact. I've also been in games where a lynch seemed certain on (what ended up being a townie) and got derailed by scum (easy way to win town points). (You also address this with your warning in the same post, but I'm just noting it) Regardless the main point I'd like to get into is this.

Silver did something strange (though later justified,) and Romanus called him on it. The act of calling him on it was Pro-Town.

This would hold true if 2 things were true (and they would BOTH have to be true), A. I hadn't done it before in this game and B. Rom didn't state on his first post that he studied voting patterns.

He reacts completely surprised that I had just voted wraith with no reasoning (again something I also did day 1 that was also within the vote counts). If he actually had looked at votes then there should be no surprise at all. But there was... thus I conclude that his reasoning from hist first post must have been a lie. Thus etc etc happens and we find ourselves here.

[silverbullet999]

hmmm possible...

I want a rom post before I proceed onward.

[silverbullet999]

EPM = biggest contributor in all of mafiascum history

hiraki has dies too recently no?

[silverbullet999]

ya know what... i'm not bought about rom... butt.... I think this is more important

VOTE: EvilPacman

[silverbullet999]

is plox a cool trendy way to say please?

[silverbullet999]

I like that mescum is the only one that can be explained.

[silverbullet999]

Also noticed something else... he's assuming there are exactly 5 people on the scum team. how?

[silverbullet999]

eh scratch that, for some reason I missed the if there even is.

[silverbullet999]

EMP is the way to go!

[silverbullet999]

*by emp i mean epm* I disagree about the douche tell though fugi

[silverbullet999]

ehmmm ....

what argument?

[silverbullet999]

fugi's use of the word bro means... impending doom death and chaos... ?

[silverbullet999]

you are doing that quite a bit... -_-

[silverbullet999]

-evil
Where's the case on me? I want my explanation.

[silverbullet999]

... pine i'll stab you...

[silverbullet999]

-THB

This combined with all the fluffposting he's been doing (and I know I've called him out on this at least once) doesn't help. FoS: Silver

It's almost like you just read posts where I say one line.. yay!

And he actually does have good points on silver in Post 866 (ISO 20).

I've already stated that this doesn't work in previous posts and is thus invalid.

lastly what "oh shit" reaction... my counterattacks on attacks?

[silverbullet999]

-THB
read my iso 89 and 90
then reply

[silverbullet999]

-EMP

I'd almost expect the Pine wagon to consist soley of town.

coincidentally

Pine (2): Empking, TwoHeadedBoy

[silverbullet999]

C-worl... did you not learn from the previous day.. or the day before that...

[silverbullet999]

Hiarki, care to expand more? sooner vs later?

[silverbullet999]

hiraki, expand more now plox.

[silverbullet999]

i'm up for above too

[silverbullet999]

whatever works... mmmm popcorn

[silverbullet999]

icey can you expand on 1113 a bit more?

-edit
Nevermind

[silverbullet999]

Alright at the risk of inciting lots of wifom I think I'm going to look back at all our dead night players and see how they would have went if they were still alive today.

(I'm basically skimming so I might be off so if anyone wants to go deeper into it feel free)

Calc would probably be on rom today (though let's not forget calc's vote analysis post where calc said "scumteam: {silver, nhammen}, Evil, {Hiraki, ConfidAnon}, and Romanus. If there's a fifth, it'd likely be Antihero."

Parama's nearly last words were on rom, wraith, and pine.

If Agar were alive... ehh that I don't really know, he attacked me slightly confid slightly pine slightly... (he was also on the friend wagon at the end)

end of wifom

Now let's look at the final lynch wagons
Friend (10): silverbullet999, AGar, Parama, Wraith, C-worl, Iceycupcake, Calcifer, nhammen, Twoheadedboy, Pine
I led this one, Agar is town, Parama is town Calc is town this leaves me, wraith, pine, cworl, THB, nhammen, and icey on it.

Jerbs (9): Calcifer, Parama, Hiraki, Diddin (2), ConfidAnon, Empking, C-worl, TwoHeadedBoy
This one.. i don't remember who led. it leaves Hiraki diddin confid emp cworl and THB

and lastly

Evilpacman18 (8): silverbullet999, Diddin (2), nhammen, Calcifer, IceyCupcake, Pine, C-worl
which leaves me, diddin, icey, pine, and cworl.

.......

well one interesting thing to note is that rom was not on any of the main wagons, nor is antihero and those are the ONLY two who were not on any of the wagons i believe.

Another is the C-worl was on all 3 wagons as well as

and the rest of us who are alive were on 2 of the wagons (I think)

mod

you have iceycupcake as on first page IceyMuffin

Looking at all this and such... I can't help but feel like rom is the way to go today and tomorrow antihero (especially if rom flips scum)... I find it hard to see 2 townies not having been on any of the wagons thus far.

VOTE: rom

P-edit:
UNVOTE:
I want the info

[silverbullet999]

wait what?

*looks again and is lost*

[silverbullet999]

I wanna know what the mod error was.

Also does being neighborized cause you to lose your old role and become a new role with the town?

Also who were the neighbors initially icey?

-Cworl
Neighborizer is not some made up role... also you turning country on us is humorous.

[silverbullet999]

Icey

Also who were the neighbors initially icey?

[silverbullet999]

Alright makes sense

[slight rant]
damn it greyice, I forgot you were part of a hydra for a second and started thinking this was a huge scum gambit that didn't add up!!! [/slight rant]

ahem.. ok

I think rom's the way to go today... though thb why you votin a fellow neighbor.

[silverbullet999]

THB
also why aren't you confirming pine is part of your neighborhood.

[silverbullet999]

omg c-worl... go back to talking country

It made me want to headslam my desk less.

VOTE: rom

[silverbullet999]

let's not mass claim just yet... we might have a few more prs...

[silverbullet999]

just seems like a meh idea

[silverbullet999]

I claim super silver cop/ I'm immune to lynches and nightkills and more or less just observe the game cause I win no matter which side wins...

(VT)

nhammen

[silverbullet999]

om nom nom?

[silverbullet999]

ugh hydras give me a headache...

[silverbullet999]

i'm disliking that we seem to be forgetting the people who are 'dead' for the moment... those being confid and (much more so) rom

[silverbullet999]

^ Empking (liking)

v THB (Icey somewhat too) (slightly disliking)

---

rom still is my number 1... and he's still dead
anyone wanna go revive him?

[silverbullet999]

-C-worl
Expand on my... over eagerness... if you don't mind.

[silverbullet999]

rom ran away : (

[silverbullet999]

o my... the humor of this thread makes me happy.

pie you win some amazing title of awesomeness for 1332...

[silverbullet999]

errmm

Everyone see it now?

Sort of.. but not quite...

[silverbullet999]

o hey it's my... wait.. my scum day was yesterday.. what gives!

[silverbullet999]

Icey what are you quoting from in your information post 1375 or is that just you?

Catch-up will commence soon as I think I finally see it

[silverbullet999]

omfg I <3 you two

now to read the other posts.. that are not nearly as entertaining.. eventually

[silverbullet999]

hmmm yeah... i'm sorta hard pressed to believe anti... and regardless whatever anti flips will be helpful

hiraki is failing heavily with his careless mixing up of games constantly... prob an idiot townish mark then with that...

and C-worl... I demand you talk with your country accent with every post you make...

soo... we are waiting for replacements ya?

Let's sing a tune or something

[silverbullet999]

(Yeah, Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah-Ah-Ark)
Oo-ooh-ooh, hoo yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
Yeah-ah-ah
Yeah-ah-ah
Yeah-ah-ah
Yeah-ah-ah
Yeah, yeah, yeah

7am, waking up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs
Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal
Seein’ everything, the time is goin’
Tickin’ on and on, everybody’s rushin’
Gotta get down to the bus stop
Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends (My friends)

Kickin’ in the front seat
Sittin’ in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which seat can I take?

[silverbullet999]

ahahahahah XD

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP:

but it's FRIDAY!

[silverbullet999]

I took physics last year... and don't remember this!... let's see... what's the general formula again? eheheh

(guesses B)

It's Friday in mafia time!! !

Ninja-

Pie you showoff...

[silverbullet999]

Wanna try a linear algebra homework problem... that may or may not be homework?

Let S be a (possibly infinite) subset of a vector space V. Prove that S is linearly dependent if and only if there is a vector v contained in S such that span (S - {v}) = span(S).

[silverbullet999]

Pshhh... you both suck...

[silverbullet999]

the cake... that came a day late....
I can no longer have my cake and eat it too...

this calls for revolution!

[silverbullet999]

Spoiler:

~Pie

VOTE: THB

LYNCH ALL LIARS AND THAT'S THE BIGGEST LIE A PERSON CAN TELL!

[silverbullet999]

no it's .999999999 I just tried it on my calculator

.333333333 + .333333333 + .333333333 = .999999999

[silverbullet999]

[silverbullet999]

I want in with meme mafia. and hi ZD! now for confid

[silverbullet999]

Hopster I approve of your avatar.

[silverbullet999]

greatest game ever

[silverbullet999]

Double Hammer all the way across the sky: Antihero

*tears* It's... it's... so beautiful! *tears*

[silverbullet999]

SILVER, CAN YOU COMMENT ON EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVEN'T COMMENT ON? IF NOT, WHY NOT?

You mean from yesterday?
long story short I didn't really see the anti wagon, but when he admitted to lying it didn't seem to add up right so I didn't fight about it.

WHY ARE WE ALL FORGETTING ROM GAD DAMN IT!

[silverbullet999]

it was rom's turn a few days ago

VOTE: rom

[silverbullet999]

who was/is neighbor recruited? I don't see the point of keeping it a secret

[silverbullet999]

Can I evaluate emp.. after we lynch rom ? I'm serious, he needs to die... we need to stop putting him to the back!

-Icey

[silverbullet999]

what's the difference between lynching one now and later?

and gah fine give me a min *cracks fingers* ...

Doing isooo.. Now

[silverbullet999]

*looks at how many posts emp has*

seriously.. now? *cries*

I'm pushing it off for tomorrow..

[silverbullet999]

I suppose it's tomorrow... I HATE you for having me do this...

Page 1 iso: No real scumhunting, just votes and one sentence reasoning (this is the empking I know of but I don't know if that means he's town or scum. Overall null even though he's literally not asking any questions at all
Page 2 iso: more or less begins same as page 1... actually throws a few questions to THB light case on THB that he drops and goes to hiraki
Page 3 iso: makes this interesting quote

I would like to point out that Nhammen is saying that he agrees with THB's VCA but has decided that that means he's not going after Romanus. That's somebody looking or an excuse to not bus his buddy.

and adds a few more comments and after anti is lynched goes back to hiraki.

Overall from my skim... I can see him being either, If his quote is true (I didn't check) then we should most def lynch rom first.

Moral of the story: Lynch Rom

[silverbullet999]

THB you've been on three town wagons... you even admit that there's probably 1 mislynch we have left so worse case the next day we lynch emp if rom somehow does not flip scum.

-Pine

Your dogged insistence on lynching zdenek (Rom got replaced, use the right name please) ahead of Empking makes me seriously worry that we misjudged you and that you're desperately trying to protect a scumbuddy.

This doesn't work... because I have been bringing up zden since... day 2? and it's been constantly pushed back... and i haven't been bringing it up only when Emp is "apparantly" on the chopping block. Can someone verify emp's claim? I'm too lazy to check.

[silverbullet999]

-THB
Relevance of the first is that I don't trust your confidence or others, we've had mislynches and you've been on 3 of them. (I've been on 2 and for one I lead one) but the one person I've wanted to see lynched for awhile (if memory serves me right I went with epm as an ok alternate, could be wrong on that though) and still hasn't gone through. Your whole neighborhood (give or take) also led the lynch on anti thus I don't see any reason to blindly follow the wagon you guys want. At the least post a case on emp cause I really don't see empscum nor emptown from my skim of him and I'm much more confident in rom, though honestly how you or others are having such "confidently certain" reads baffles me since the only thing I know is that you are confirmed town by cop (unless your somehow godfather or w/e). and grey is more than likely town (unless he's mafia neighborizer and is playing one hell of a trick on all of us). Regardless I'm not going to be convinced otherwise since I've let rom (rom's replacement) slide and stay alive for this damn long.

Can someone verify emp's claim?

meant this

Page 3 iso: makes this interesting quote
I would like to point out that Nhammen is saying that he agrees with THB's VCA but has decided that that means he's not going after Romanus. That's somebody looking or an excuse to not bus his buddy.
and adds a few more comments and after anti is lynched goes back to hiraki.

Overall from my skim... I can see him being either, If his quote is true (I didn't check) then we should most def lynch rom first.

[silverbullet999]

-Nhammen

The VCA had cases against both Emp and Rom,

Didn't VCA paint me as scum in all three or so scenarios?

Is this what you were asking for?

yes thank you.

THB

Look back one day.

Link me...

[silverbullet999]

Ok so it seems VCA for some reason affected your Emp read heavily... and not so much anyone else (least not drastically)

Let me take a lookie... ok the only VCA scenario that mentions emp is here
[quote]*controversial method of VCA removed for your sanity*
--This method left evilpacman18, Romanus/[winger], Pine, Empking, silverbullet999, and C-worl all as possible suspects.[quote]

and also emp is mentioned in the pine wagon where it was either him and evil that "had" to be scum...

How did it so Heavily change your view on emp?

[silverbullet999]

-Hopp

Nobody agrees with me that this is a scumslip?!

I do...

[silverbullet999]

Alright I want nice things so what I want is

A list in this structure of who you believe the scum team is and in what order you want to lynch them

-Scum A (we lynch A today... and today is friday)
-Scum B (we lynch B tomorrow which is saturday!)
-Scum C (we lynch C because sunday comes afterwards)

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP:
That's to everyone.

[silverbullet999]

I hate everyone.

[silverbullet999]

EVERYBODY STFU AND DO NOT POST. I AM CLAIMING FULL CONTROL OF THIS THREAD. IF YOU DO NOT FOLLOW THE RULES I SHALL LAY IN THE NEXT POST. YOU ARE SCUM! IF YOU POST AND I HAVE NOT MADE A POST WITH INSTRUCTIONS. YOU ARE SCUM!

[silverbullet999]

READ ALL OF THIS BECAUSE IF YOU BREAK ANY RULE I SET, YOU ARE SCUM!
I ONLY WANT TO SEE TWO PEOPLE POST RIGHT NOW.
THOSE ARE C-WORL AND HOP.
YOU CAN POST WHATEVER MESSAGE YOU WANT, BUT AT THE END I BETTER FUCKING SEE UNVOTE: . IF ANYONE ELSE POSTS AT THIS TIME YOU ARE SCUM, IF EITHER OF YOU TWO POST AND DON'T UNVOTE YOU ARE SCUM.

[silverbullet999]

Fuck I wanted that to be in large... slax can you fix that?

[silverbullet999]

thb if you weren't "confirmed" town (which I'm going to assume is true and you aren't a godfather) I would kick your ass..

oh and it is? err thanks... (sorry slax)

[silverbullet999]

Alright I don't know how long it's going to take C-Worl to get back, all may post... if anyone throws a vote... (and C-Worl if you post and don't have an unvote at the end)... you are scum.

[silverbullet999]

Zded, what's POE? Also expand on your reads in 1640... NOW

[silverbullet999]

-THB
expand on why you dislike Hopp's reaction.

[silverbullet999]

EBWOP:

Specifically fugi,

pie please don't answer for him

[silverbullet999]

Damn it thb and zded, respond already

-Hiraki
Iso pine, he's clearly stated this multiple times

-Pine
Your Majesty (I'm assuming thats me and with that I say good man...)
Now keep your thoughts to yourself currently.

[silverbullet999]

-Icey

When did I have a wagon?

[silverbullet999]

-Hiraki
Ol buddy ol pal...

post your reads on everyone please.

[silverbullet999]

-THB (Fugi)
Problem
Hopp stated this

Meh, Zdenek's reaction isn't what I'd have expected it to be. He's still probably scum, regardless.

However, I will hear out silver for the moment and

UNVOTE:

This isn't him just obeying, he wanted to see what results it would bring

thus expand again please on Hopp like I asked

[silverbullet999]

-THB (fugi)

fun-loving joking silver

Yes and town got lynched and my wants of lynching zden were ignored and a few other things that i'll throw up in a fuck all long wall post.

aggressive nature and constant urgency

I want to make my fuck all wall post sooner vs later.

It didn't strike me as a town reaction and neither did C-Worl's.

C-Worl's I can agree to a certain extent, Hopp's feels null at worse cause he was like... hmm silver said unvote... alright I'll give for now to see why.

you don't have to post every 5 minutes and get every shred of information in one real day's time.

Don't like the pressure?

[silverbullet999]

The paranoia is strong within me pie...

That last one was more of a reaction test.. damn you for reasoning that i'm crazy.

[silverbullet999]

Patience is a virtue C-worl

[silverbullet999]

-Pie
What made you crack and go ummm what's that disorder called? I'll just say why are you acting like schmeagal all of a sudden?

[silverbullet999]

Eh I was thinking about it... I don't think zded's response is gonna affect me much either way... thus I'll post the big ol wall I threw in my notepad...
------------------------
Alright, after fooling around with thoughts in my head... this is basically how today, and tomorrow are going down.

If you stray from this path, you are scum.. simple as that.

(Wifomy warning)
Now first off, I'm going to assume that wraith protected me again today, and that this is the reason why he is no longer with us. Thus I'm going to assume I'm going to be killed tonight. This also lets me safely assume that scum does NOT have a roleblocker (else I'd be dead), which provides more interesting assumptions.
(/Wifomy warning)

Zden is dieing today, he's been so obviously scum throughout different parts of this game and I SERIOUSLY hate you ALL for going with emp yesterday if you want me to expand on this I will, but as I say below.. this'll do for now.

Nham is dieing the day after. His reasoning for being on the emp wagon literally make's no sense when you think of it and simply put he's scum, I'll expand if you really want but this'll do for now.

Now obviously there's either 4 or less scum in this game (probably 4). So that leaves everyone else. I really want to throw Hiraki in as a scum because he's literally been useless.. but besides that there's really nothing to say about him. C-Worl's latest posts has me throw him as scum as well. I think Pine and Hopp are town. THB is confirmed town... (but since I'm assuming there's no rb, the possibility of scum having a godfather get's high.) Thus THB is literally the wild card. Icey is too but I don't really fully see a neighborizer actually enacting said powers... then again... Icey's been kept alive... im vt... yet wraith and not icey was killed, meaning scum went after me.

Thus

Town:

Pine
Hopp

Scum:

Zden

(Def)

Nham

(Def)

C-worl

(Maybe - Probably)

Hiraki

(Maybe)

Icey

(Maybe - Probably) (I think one of either ICEY or THB is scum, leaning ICEY based on my thinking of scum choices but I'm not sure on this... after further thinking about it Icey makes a lot more sense, it explains somewhat why icey "forgot" to throw me in neighborhood a few days ago and was being very "careful" about it but I'm actually now half and half with him and THB(in neighborhood he doublechecked with a few people, pine included, when pine stated repeatedly that he was for putting me in the neighborhood.)

THB

(Maybe - Probably) (I don't like his explanation of Hopp at all, it just seems like throwing suspicion on him, becuase hopp didn't do what fugi is saying he did imo... It's really a coin flip between THB and Icey and they should prob be saved for last.. I think...).

....

SIMPLY PUT ZDEN and NHAM DIES TODAY AND TOMORROW, STRAY FROM THAT AND YOUR SCUM, IF IM ALIVE BY THEN WE'LL GO FROM THERE, IF I DIE THEN REMEMBER THIS POST AND REMEMBER WHAT I SAID!
NOW WE WILL PUT ZDEN TO L-2, YOU WILL POST WITH WHATEVER MESSAGE YOU WANT AND VOTE ON ZDEN, AFTER YOU PUT SAID VOTE ON ZDEN YOU WILL ALSO STATE IN THE SAME POST WHAT L- ZDEN IS AT. IF YOU MISTYPE THE L- YOU ARE SCUM, IF YOU PUT ZDEN AT L-1, YOU ARE SCUM. NOW DO SO (YOU MAY ALSO SIMPLY POST).

[silverbullet999]

The paranoia is strong within me