There Will Be Bloodshed (Game Over)

[Wraith]

Hence why my vote is still on Romanus.

[Wraith]

Okay, here's my speculation for the remaining setup:

3 scum goons
1 scum roleblocker
1 scum godfather/some other weak scum PR
3 town PRs that have already claimed
1 weak investigative role (ie Watcher or something)
1 other town PR
3 VTs

[nhammen]

Have been busy since before Day opened sorry. Have received prod. I skimmed each page, and will do a full reread... sometime in the next few RL days. I saw that we are doing a massclaim, and thanks to the fact that silver asked for me to be next to claim at the top of a page, I know that I am next.

Claim: VT

Next: Romanus.

[nhammen]

OK... so he has flaked... are we letting him off of the hook for that? You do realize that if this allows someone to get off of the hook, then scum have a surefire method of waiting to be last to claim. I don't think that this is a good idea.

[diddin]

oh fuggity fuckface another nilla claim.

We don't lynch Romanus without his replacement coming in because there's a chance he could be the Town Cop or something like that.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

How about we just don't lynch at all until the replacement comes in. kthx.

~Fugi

[nhammen]

oh fuggity fuckface another nilla claim.

We don't lynch Romanus without his replacement coming in because there's a chance he could be the Town Cop or something like that.

Yeah, I saw all of the nilla claims up there. I'm gonna speculate that with this few PRs (unless all 3 unclaimed are PRs), we have as small of a scum team that this game can support, with very few powers.

No I mean, we wait for his replacement to claim. That way he can't use his inactivity as a scum gambit. He either waits so long that he is replaced, or he is forced to come in here and post.

...

Except that I really would rather not wait. But I'm not gonna let scum off of the hook either. hmmm...

[nhammen]

I guess we have to wait though. Rom is the scummiest of the remaining players, and I'd like him to be the next to claim.

[diddin]

Who else is unclaimed. I'd say anyone left can claim just so we have more to work with.

[Empking]

Okay, here's my speculation for the remaining setup:

3 scum goons
1 scum roleblocker
1 scum godfather/some other weak scum PR
3 town PRs that have already claimed
1 weak investigative role (ie Watcher or something)
1 other town PR
3 VTs

Wraith: Why are you telling scum what to claim?

Vote: THB

- If Pie is posiotive he's scum then there's not much to talk about.

[TwoHeadedBoy]

Who else is unclaimed. I'd say anyone left can claim just so we have more to work with.

Be patient. We have about 11 days until deadline. Let's keep going in order.

Vote: THB

- If Pie is posiotive he's scum then there's not much to talk about.

You're an idiot. And nice OMGUS, bro.

~Fugi

[Empking]

Who else is unclaimed. I'd say anyone left can claim just so we have more to work with.

Be patient. We have about 11 days until deadline. Let's keep going in order.

Vote: THB

- If Pie is posiotive he's scum then there's not much to talk about.

You're an idiot. And nice OMGUS, bro.

~Fugi

Its not OMGUS if there's a reason. The two of you have mutually claimed scum. That's as good a reason as you'll come across.

[Empking]

Everybody:

There are two possibilities: THB thinks that people playing like THB are definitely ("positive") scum. This means THB is scum (and he thinks I'm a traitor and looking for bussing points.)
THB is lying. This means he's scum. Its that simple.

[IceyCupcake]

3) You're scum.

[Pine]

What the hell are you talking about, Emp? You're really starting to shake my town read. I know explanation isn't your thing, but I'd like one. Speak slowly and use little words.

[Empking]

3) You're scum.

No that's part of 1. (Yeah I can't remember why I decided I had to be a traitor.)

Pine: THB supposedly thinks that [actions THB has done] makes one 100% scum. If he is not scum then he can't possibly believe that (Yes?). So he's either scum or he doesn't believe it (Yes?) If he doesn't believe it then why did he say it? Because he's scum. What bit don't you get

[IceyCupcake]

3) You're scum.

No that's part of 1. (Yeah I can't remember why I decided I had to be a traitor.)

Pine: THB supposedly thinks that [actions THB has done] makes one 100% scum. If he is not scum then he can't possibly believe that (Yes?). So he's either scum or he doesn't believe it (Yes?) If he doesn't believe it then why did he say it? Because he's scum. What bit don't you get

This post.

[Pine]

Empking, are you referring to his vote on you based off of VCA?

The VCA narrows it down to a few candidates, some of whom can be eliminated for various reasons, some disputable. If I understand THB's intentions correctly, you were the only one that didn't get eliminated for some reason or another, and THB removed themselves from consideration because they've seen their role PM and hence know for sure. VCAs don't transfer to others unless the other person agrees on the assessment of all the variables.

Gotta stop posting from phone. Hard to make a cogent analysis.

[Calcifer]

Calcifer,

Vanilla Townie

, was killed Night 3.

Bah, bah, black sheep,
Have you any life?

No, sir, no, sir, just three knives.
One for the good mod,
One for the mafiscum,
And One for the town;
Makes me sad I'm gone...

Bah

bah, black sheep,
Why do you frown?
Well, sir, well sir,
To say:

Go Town

...

[Empking]

Empking, are you referring to his vote on you based off of VCA?

The VCA narrows it down to a few candidates, some of whom can be eliminated for various reasons, some disputable. If I understand THB's intentions correctly, you were the only one that didn't get eliminated for some reason or another, and THB removed themselves from consideration because they've seen their role PM and hence know for sure. VCAs don't transfer to others unless the other person agrees on the assessment of all the variables.

Gotta stop posting from phone. Hard to make a cogent analysis.

I don't think I agree but therre's an easy way to find out:

THB: Have you ruled out Romanus from contention of being scum?

[TwoHeadedBoy]

Pine needs to buddy up to us more IMO. If he keeps defending us like crazy maybe I'll stop thinking he's scum.

Anyhow, I can kind of see where Emp is coming from (being that we did point out we can be seen as scummy by VCA in a semi-neutral POV), but... no. Fugi also mentioned that Wraith looks scummy as hell from VCA, but he is an unCCed protective role, and unless someone claims another prot role, he's most likely town. I don't see the logic in "pointing out that someone being scummy by VCA but are most likely town is scummy". [I can't think of a better way to word that. x_x]

Like Fugi pointed out, this looks like blatant OMGUS (or at least a scummy countervote) and an easy way for Emp to try and force a wagon on to those making a good case against him.

What the hell are you talking about, Emp? You're really starting to shake my town read.

If you bus him now I'll give you townpoints.

THB: Have you ruled out Romanus from contention of being scum?

From a look at the last three lynch votals, Rom/[winger has parked his vote off the main bandwagons the first two days, and apparently wasn't voting for anyone D3. So yeah, I think he's pretty scummy.

If you want Fugi's opinion, he did kinda say that Rom was his second top suspect.

So no, we haven't ruled out that possibility at all.

~Pie

[Empking]

THB: One word: "Positive". You're positive I'm scummy for things that you yourself are guilty of.

[IceyCupcake]

Can we wait for the remaining twits to claim before the finger pointing starts?

[Empking]

Can we wait for the remaining twits to claim before the finger pointing starts?

Why the change of heart? (You were perfectly happy finger pointing before.)

[IceyCupcake]

Mainly because you're the one talking.

And you're scum.

We've had like not-EmpKing for four days, a day of you being irritatingly wrong isn't gonna convince me that you're town.