Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[GreyICE]

This is a joke clearly based on an ongoing game, so I can't directly say how I feel about that part, but what I can say is why the hell does Ranger ask for us to "get on with the game" when he contributes nothing that could possible move the game forward?
This single post is massively scummy, and combined with the fact that he barely has posted, I'd say we caught scum #1.

Pssst. Grey, do something like this next time you call someone scummy. I have to actually agree with this point now that I see it.

Psst: Doombunny

I have reasons.

@Amrun: Why are you obvscum and how did you fail?

Also, give me some town scum reads, they shall be delicious WIFOM.

[Amrun]

@grey: it's cute how wrong you are, but I don't need to give my scumreads again. Read the thread.

[MrTrow]

town-reads:

Spoiler: RedCoyote: for perserving a tactic scum would want to get rid of

We need to include any dead mafiates at the top of every lynching list. It would be incredibly not funny to have a single surviving mafiate go back several days and take out the vig and/or doc, while reviving teammates.

Agreed. Good point in bringing this up, btw.

Mafia would want this tactic 'lost'
+ other breakdowns

Chronopie for bringing up that point to begin with. (altoug it would be nice if he`d sow up with more)

scum-reads:

Spoiler: Kcdaspot: trying to look town (mainly gut)

But basically, if we had a nomination at 4 and one at 5, and we killed someone from the 5, we could potentially flop the nomination, bringing us back confirmed town - or confirm people liars.

After having thought about it, By rule 1.2.1, We need to include any dead mafiates at the top of every lynching list. It would be incredibly not funny to have a single surviving mafiate go back several days and take out the vig and/or doc, while reviving teammates.

we should have a agreed format on how the nominees vote.

The last one 'feels like': 'must come up with usefull tactic'. faked?

Spoiler: Mist: faked memory?

Wait just remembered. Since we are doing votes secretly no RVS.

Unvote

within 3 minutes of her previous post: feels a lot more faked. (purpose unclear though).

Spoiler: Doombunny9: attempting to shut down town-tactic discussion

Question: Does any of this really even matter anymore. I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that there are crazy lynch and night mechanics so there's no need to keep talking about it and going off on tangents. I understand that it may be confusing to some but after three pages, we should be having some discussion about things other than mechanics. So as of right now I'm going to declare this a RQS to (hopefully) get the ball rolling

Shutting down tactic discussion for a discussion-starter. only purpose this serves is limiting tactic

Spoiler: GreyICE: rolefishing

Should I work out all the evil shit we can do with a time machine and vig shots? Scum could do similar with a time machine and scum shots, but the benefits of having confirmed town "de-flip" seems a lot higher than the "benefits" of having the target of a lynch change.

I assume temporal parodox is anything too irritating to work out.

If you`re not playing under te assumption 'non-trivial time interference' will be worked out(happen) properly, why did you offer to work out such plays for town powerroles as long as they are willing to ask?

Will check the others soon.

[RedCoyote]

Ghostwriter: Why can't you just iso me? I have already explained it. By saying he is some sort of doctor (because someone with the namclaim of doctor would likely also have a doctor role) he has told everyone, including scum, that he is NOT the doctor, because no real dopctor would do that. Scum often go doctor-hunting, and now they know that kcda isn't a doctor.

I see your point, but I don't agree.

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Why would I push for someone's lynch based solely off of one post?

WIFOM incoming!

*runs for cover*

But seriously, you could've fooled me. You voted to lynch immediately after his post.

You think it's smart to tunnel on someone for one post alone?

WIFOM incoming!

*runs for cover, again*

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I find it odd that, whilst claiming to want more discussion on Amrun/Kcda, Smargaret does not ask questions of them. Several people have been interested in their interaction, but they usually follow up with questions.

I like this. Good point.

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Kcd you seem obsessed with Amrun. Why is that?

Neither can I. I'm going to PM the Mod that she's my #1 on my list! <3 <3 <3

But seriously, I agree with your observation. It seems very odd.

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The votes recorded in the "votecount" don't have any impact on the game, I just thought it would make life easier for everyone.

How sweet!

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I have a slight scum read on GW for being tunneling and aggro.

Bs. What's wrong with being aggressive? And I completely disagree that he's tunneling. This is just you trying to tack on some fake rationale behind your vote. Not good scumhunting, Kcda. Not good at all.

[Exe]

Why is everyone ignoring Ranger? I don't understand.

[Doombunny9]

Shutting down tactic discussion for a discussion-starter. only purpose this serves is limiting tactic

Erm, where exactly was I trying to stop tactic discussion fully? Tactic and mechanic discussion is fine, just as long as there's enough gameplay discussion and scumhunting to go along with it. At that point in the game people were doing 95% mechanic discussion and 5% scumhunting which is why I tried to stimulate more game related discussion.

The case on Mist is also poor since as you stated, there would be no scum motivation to do that and it seems perfectly normal to me anyway.

Why is everyone ignoring Ranger? I don't understand.

Mostly because there's nothing new to talk about methinks. I've already posted my stance on him (null-leaning scum ever since your reasoning) but until he posts again, there's not going to be anything new for me to say.

[RedCoyote]

Exe, I have no problem with putting Ranger high on the list right now, but Doombunny is right. There's just not much else to say at this point.

[GhostWriter]

Why is everyone ignoring Ranger? I don't understand.

I am ignoring him because the case isn't going anywhere without Ranger posting more. I see more interesting prospects. If it makes you feel any better, he's not exactly low on my list.

[Amrun]

RC, I voted for Kcdaspot, but votes don't count towards lynch in this game. It's effectively an FoS and I don't see a problem with doing that.

Also, I fail to see how asking a direct question of Exe is WIFOM.

[MrTrow]

Erm, where exactly was I trying to stop tactic discussion fully? Tactic and mechanic discussion is fine, just as long as there's enough gameplay discussion and scumhunting to go along with it. At that point in the game people were doing 95% mechanic discussion and 5% scumhunting which is why I tried to stimulate more game related discussion.

Question: Does any of this really even matter anymore. I'm pretty sure everyone knows by now that there are crazy lynch and night mechanics so there's no need to keep talking about it and going off on tangents. I understand that it may be confusing to some but after three pages, we should be having some discussion about things other than mechanics. So as of right now I'm going to declare this a RQS to (hopefully) get the ball rolling:

So tell me what would you expect to provide more 'potentially usefull'-content:

1.
- What is your opinion of policy lynches and Lynch all Lurkers/Lynch all Liars in particular?
- Have you played with any of the people in this game before?
- How active are you?

or

2.
What is more usefull:
- voting in such a fashion that timetravel can`t interfere with the votes(scum-proof)
- or so that we can (confirming liars/bringing back confirmed innocents)

[Tragedy]

Why is everyone ignoring Ranger? I don't understand.

Why was my question towards Ranger became ignored?
+Scum-tell to Ranger. . .

[GhostWriter]

Who already announced he'd only have his cellphone for the weekend. So you're not reading the very person you're assigning scum-points to? Interesting.

[Tragedy]

Prodded. Terribly sorry forgot about this game. I'm on my phone this weekend, but I'll try and post something substantial tonight.

He did say he was going to post something tonight.
I see nothing.

[Tragedy]

Sorry, I meant last night.

[GhostWriter]

It said try. From a phone. Jumping on his case Monday night = fine. Jumping on his case right now = attempting to look pro-town by attacking a player under scrutiny with cheap points.

[Tragedy]

I'm not attacking him at the moment. I'm still waiting on his response anyways...

[GhostWriter]

I'm not attacking him at the moment. I'm still waiting on his response anyways...

Why was my question towards Ranger became ignored?
+Scum-tell to Ranger. . .

Right...

[Tragedy]

Right...

-__________-...
I think I keep forgetting the Post Time Stamps... Sorry then, bro.

(Idunno, but you're buds with Ranger or you're just concerned?)

[Chronopie]

/prodded.

My Inet fell over the other day, so I'm actually piggybacking on a neighbour's wifi. So that makes me v/

LA

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But I'm here for a few minutes, so:

I don't have any strong scumreads. Probably due to not having had time to read the thread. I just skimmed though and here are my impressions:

Kcda vs GreyICE looks TvT

Tragedy is a VI (as usual)

Mist can go in the same category as Tragedy.

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In a thirteen player game, we likely have three mafiates. This game is mod-confirmed to be TvM; no 3rd Party. Therefore: We either have two scum, both with time machines. OR three scum, with less than three time machines between them.

Working on the assumption of three:

Ranger
Smargret
{Doombunny/EXE}

[GhostWriter]

If you haven't noticed, I have a habit of calling shenanigans when the ball is a sphere and the hoop is a triangle.

[Exe]

Therefore: We either have two scum, both with time machines. OR three scum, with less than three time machines between them.

I don't understand where you got this assumption from...?

[Tragedy]

Since when did scums get Time Machines..?

[Mist7676]

I forgot that votes were secret. I have bad memory.

[GreyICE]

/prodded.

My Inet fell over the other day, so I'm actually piggybacking on a neighbour's wifi. So that makes me v/

LA

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But I'm here for a few minutes, so:

I don't have any strong scumreads. Probably due to not having had time to read the thread. I just skimmed though and here are my impressions:

Kcda vs GreyICE looks TvT

Tragedy is a VI (as usual)

Mist can go in the same category as Tragedy.

Deeper impressions on the Kcda vs. GreyICE bit? What's the kcda town tell that stands out for you? My town tell?

[Amrun]

Dropping your accusation of me, Grey? Was it some sort of test?