Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[Kcdaspot]

no...

A) I like his posting but he's not out of the woods for me. he's null-scum barring his reads.
B) I'm not sure i'm saying this right.... true, but then when what you say is even more-so correct your wording becomes secondary. if you have a agreeable point you don't need to fancy it up.. i'm saying it's his 540 and 542 that sways me back off of a total scum read...

i'm not sure i typed that correctly...

[Doombunny9]

Then what about scum twisting your words into scummy ones?
That's how much misunderstandings would suddenly hop in and get town lynched right off the bat.

I was talking about what happened if he were to die and flip town, if that's the case, even if scum were to twist his words to make them look scummy, the town would still know that they were coming from a town PoV and would look at them like that. Even if scum are twisting around Zinger's words, he shouldn't be hiding and refusing to do any scumhunting since well, if everyone were under fear that their words would be twisted around and acted the same way, we wouldn't get anywhere.

I don't really feel as if I understood your question so if this isn't what you were asking, could you please clarify?

@Kcda- I still have an unanswered question (Post 428- What about posts 404 though 420 makes Grey town incarnate) and I'd like to see a response to Amrun post 493

[Kcdaspot]

to 493: as stated i've been burnt out since around the beginning of the game due to school. I've only thought about it then. I'm sorry but my brain is spontaneous. it's also the reason why I double and triple post unnecessarily. Also of note... you've been making the same type arbitrary comment about me being scum somewhat as I have been calling you town. now going over your ISO i never saw a true case. if you still think me scum I'd love to see one.

to 428: it was mainly 420 that does it for me. RC kept asking him a question thinking he's been avoiding when he reiterated the answer many times. I wouldn't think scum would bend over backwards like that. greyICE could have just have easliy said "LOLyoudon'tseemyansweryou'rescum" and left it and continued to ignore it up till now. he answers the question here. RC dismissed it. and the back and forth ensued.

[Kcdaspot]

RC has still dismissed the answer now.

what dont you like about that answer brah?

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP: answer 'uptil' now

[Kcdaspot]

those things about 493 are toward amrun just in case it wasn't apparent.

[Amrun]

I do think you are still scummy. However, there isn't going to be more of a case to be had than has been said.

It boils down to this, kcdaspot:

-the rolefishing thing in your "joke"
-your intense buddying of me
-your abandonment of that buddying stance as soon as I started to take heat

[Doombunny9]

now going over your ISO i never saw a true case. if you still think me scum I'd love to see one.

-Creating noise by splitting up your posts rather than just posting all at once
-Buddying up with Amrun
-Throwing people into town/scum categories without explaining your reasoning

-Rather than scumhunting, you just decide where people belong based on what other people do.

[Doombunny9]

Accidently sent my post when I was still writing it. Here's the rest:

-Creating noise by splitting up your posts rather than just posting all at once
-Buddying up with Amrun
-Throwing people into town/scum categories without explaining your reasoning
-A lot of the reads are the opposite of what other people are saying- possibly trying to get town reads if they flip
-Changing them when it would be opportunistic
-Rather than scumhunting, you just decide where people belong based on what other people do.
-Avoiding question(s) (Haven't counted yet)

[Zinger2099]

Then what about scum twisting your words into scummy ones?
That's how much misunderstandings would suddenly hop in and get town lynched right off the bat.

I was talking about what happened if he were to die and flip town, if that's the case, even if scum were to twist his words to make them look scummy, the town would still know that they were coming from a town PoV and would look at them like that. Even if scum are twisting around Zinger's words, he shouldn't be hiding and refusing to do any scumhunting since well, if everyone were under fear that their words would be twisted around and acted the same way, we wouldn't get anywhere.

I don't really feel as if I understood your question so if this isn't what you were asking, could you please clarify?

@Kcda- I still have an unanswered question (Post 428- What about posts 404 though 420 makes Grey town incarnate) and I'd like to see a response to Amrun post 493

I have played in a game where a townperson said x and died. Another townperson said "what does he mean by x?" and a scumperson replied "he means y". The town then played the rest of the game assuming that y was irrefutable truth because a dead towny had said so, when in fact that dead towny had said x, not y.

I just got home from work and am going to bed. My cases/POVs will come when I wake up, hopefully.

[Kcdaspot]

Accidently sent my post when I was still writing it. Here's the rest:

-Creating noise by splitting up your posts rather than just posting all at once

meta me. i do this everywhere.

-Buddying up with Amrun

I thought he was town.

-Throwing people into town/scum categories without explaining your reasoning
-A lot of the reads are the opposite of what other people are saying - possibly trying to get town reads if they flip
-Changing them when it would be opportunistic
-Rather than scumhunting, you just decide where people belong based on what other people do.
-Avoiding question(s) (Haven't counted yet)

sorry about this. as stated was burnt by school.

I bold my stuff

everything else is how my mind works... i had hoped to not reveal this like so but... I have aspurger's syndrome. it's a lower form of autism. it's why i have come to this site in the first place. this game (mafia) is a social game. simply put I like games, but suck at being social. if i get better here maybe i can turn the IRL social bit around.

i can only say what I think. and more often than not, it's a fine mess. I'm sorry that i come off as disingenuous.

yeah, reading this it's looks like AtE... but it's the truth. I can't fake this. I wish i could but i can't.

[Amrun]

Having Asperger's doesn't make you town.

[Kcdaspot]

but it clears questions about my posting style.

[Doombunny9]

@Zinger- Even so, you shouldn't just be outright refusing. The town can't get anywhere if people don't say much just because scum might twist their words.

-Creating noise by splitting up your posts rather than just posting all at once

meta me. i do this everywhere.

Fair enough I suppose. It wasn't too strong of a point anyway.

-Buddying up with Amrun

I thought he was town.

Thinking someone is town is fine but your posts just read to me as less "Thinking Amrun is town" and more "Trying to get Amrun to think you're town"

-Avoiding question(s) (Haven't counted yet)

sorry about this. as stated was burnt by school.

I suppose that's fair enough but since I had to ask multiple times, it still makes me iffy on this point.

[Kcdaspot]

DB... as of that case in 558 and 559 who was your top scum?

[Tragedy]

Then what about scum twisting your words into scummy ones?
That's how much misunderstandings would suddenly hop in and get town lynched right off the bat.

I was talking about what happened if he were to die and flip town, if that's the case, even if scum were to twist his words to make them look scummy, the town would still know that they were coming from a town PoV and would look at them like that. Even if scum are twisting around Zinger's words, he shouldn't be hiding and refusing to do any scumhunting since well, if everyone were under fear that their words would be twisted around and acted the same way, we wouldn't get anywhere.

I don't really feel as if I understood your question so if this isn't what you were asking, could you please clarify?

@Kcda- I still have an unanswered question (Post 428- What about posts 404 though 420 makes Grey town incarnate) and I'd like to see a response to Amrun post 493

~ If scum managed to twist your words, which may cause major misunderstandings, into a scummy point, then what now?
~ It's pretty hard to read somebody.

[Tragedy]

@SMarg: Why Zinger = Obvious Scum and Maxous ain't doing better than Chronopie? Why the convincement of Amrun & Kcdaspot scumbuddies since Kcda distanced?

[Tragedy]

@Amrun: When you earlier put Chronopie onto your scum list, and now that he's replaced by Maxous, what made him look town, other than his summarization of Smarg's case?
Why lynch Zinger? All I read from you about Zinger is "HE MUST DIE TODAY" or "KCDASPOT < ZINGER". Why Kcdaspot < Zinger, although there's not really much of a major case on kcda?

[Tragedy]

@Exe: What's convinced you to put Maxous onto your top scum read, still?
When you mentioned ""But X did it too! Why is no one suspecting him!" = Scummy", who would make the most scummiest player out of this re(action)?

[Amrun]

Tragedy: Maxous' overall posts look town to me. Chronopie was either not reading as town or scum, and his replacing out to be replaced with someoe I read as town makes me think it's the former.

Zinger has been full of scum, and ranger was scummy before him ... And then only replaced out of THIS game. Then Zinger's replace-in post was the worst case of Amished scumtell that I've EVER seen. Nothing he's done since then has impressed me either.

[Exe]

Busy weekend, like mine usually are.

Content later hopefully, but skimming I don't see much in favor of strongly changing my reads. I still say we are ready for a flip.

[Doombunny9]

DB... as of that case in 558 and 559 who was your top scum?

They were (And still are) Zinger followed by you.

~ If scum managed to twist your words, which may cause major misunderstandings, into a scummy point, then what now?

I'd call them out on it and clarify my meaning. If they kept going from there I'd defend myself as best I could and hope town could read for themselves the point I was trying to make. Running away scared and refusing to say anymore would be one of the last things I'd do.

[RedCoyote]

Guys, the Mod is prodding me at this point. Seriously, move to lynch. I don't want to have to say it again.

[RedCoyote]

Kcda is definitely going, no question. Zinger is a mislynch, but, whatever. I'd be willing to lose Zinger if we could just move to the next phase. Amrun or Grey would be better for the second slot.

[MrTrow]

sorry i`ve been 'not very alive' for this weekend + off to work now (more will follow later tonight)

@RC: are you really suggesting a 'mislynch to speed things up'?
Given that bringing someone back from d1 is (a lot) harder than later, this really isn`t the time to 'just accept the mislynch'. (not sure there ever it)

If you really believe zinger to be town, point out why.
To me his: 'screw it no-one`s going to believe me anyway' doesn`t help
Also feeling the need to 'correct' the vote-count, to show you`re a replacement, without doing the same for the other replacements strikes me as off.

I can see a reason why these aren`t nessesarily scum-driven.
How far is that 'last chance defence case' coming?
I really would like to see it before nominations