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Fuck it.
I'm motivated. You want content? Give me a few days. I'll require a quicklynch after I'm done with Robo.
Fucking using semantics in a fucking post fucking pisses me off.
Fucking.
@KCDA: I see what you mean, but I haven't had anything that I've needed to say yet.
With this, I'm going to have to say everything because I'm putting all my cards on the table to get Roboscum out.
Get ready for this fucking wall.
And before anyone posts a fucking image.
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WHY YOU SHOULD VOTE ROBOCOPTER.
BY HIRAKI.
This is why I initially voted.Robo wrote:I'll be one of the Mature ones and answer the questions normally.
This seems like scum saying, "lol i can get town points by not lying"
Which is true. Except I have a finely tuned scumdar.
And you're pinging. Whoops!
This just gives it away.Robo wrote:3. It is my legal obligation to play to my win condition. And as such, my answer is No.
RVS is a stage where everyone is supposed to be cheerful, and not serious.
Hey. Let's take an example where Robo flipped town, and he was in RVS!
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 6#p2707806
Compare that to this. Robo is cheerful, and flips town. There is a distinct difference in the attitudes here and there.
The worst part is that thread had 12 posts at that time(11?) and this post was 15. Yuck to the power of 18.
I've already gone over it in the thread, but I need to rephrase it here for the importance of this.Rob wrote:Duh.
Robo is an experienced player. He has modded, and played well in different games. If this was a newbie/semi-experienced player Imightlet it slide.
Let me make this extremely clear. When you are playing town, you are playing to your mod given win-con.
Lynch scum.NOTlook like a townie. Looking like a townie is how scum win. They don't hunt scum.
This is going too much into theory now though, so that's enough on this topic.
I'm not too sure if this is an insult or not, but I'm just going to drop it into that category. Insults are a form of instigation which is now becoming a new definite tell for me.Robo wrote:Wow! I was waiting for you to show some valid reasoning! Man, its a small world after all.
In the rest of that post, Robo basically questions silavor on everything. He also makes everything in his post confusing. Even silavor agrees with me.
silavor wrote:Robo, how am I a hypocrite. Your accusation against me makes no sense.
Go back and try again, scum.
So how does Robo respond?
Robo wrote:You called someone else a bandwagonner who posts no reasoning. Yet you voted for me without an ounce of reasoning. Definition of Hypocrite: Someone who does what they tell others not to do.
Meaning you are a hypocrite.
Hmmzorz.
This just got interesting.
Let's follow it a bit longer. Perhaps Robo has a point here.
Let's analyze this. "You called someone else---"
By this point, the only part where Silavor mentions the word bandwagon in his ISO is #3.
He has a valid point here. I've been a bit focused on Robo at the moment and want to look at other people after he dies, but at this point, Tid did make a really scummy move.Silavor wrote:You mean you're gonna pick the one that gets the bigger bandwagon and lower public approval rating? Sounds like bet hedging to me.
"Yet you voted me with no reasoning."
This is reasoning.silavor wrote:Amor, I didn't think I'd actually have to point this out... It's kinda obvious.
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3. It is my legal obligation to play to my win condition. And as such, my answer is No.
So, Robo's argument is flawed.
To add on, not only does Robo find something bad about Silavor but tells us that he's not scum.
Hey mister, "I want reasoning". Spit out some reasoning for that. People who are scummy are scum. There are 4 scum in this game and apparently Silavor can't be scum because he's doing scummy things?
That doesn't make much sense.
#85 I basically covered in that he's being a hypocrite himself in #79.
#97 is a fail because it's obviously out of order.
Whether or not it's out of order makes no difference.
Silavor still explained his vote.
If he explained his vote, then what's the point of continuing this argument.
Oh wait that's right.
There is none.
Why does he pursue it though? Why? Does Robo just want to prove himself right? Maybe he wants to get a point across that Silavor lied a smidge? Lynch all Liars lynch?
Wait. Is he trying to flip the tables on Silavor's accusation of him being scum, just because he put a quote out of order?
HMMZORZ.
You crap bags didn't think I could get out this much content could you? I wouldn't need to do this if you just read.
For fuck's sake are you serious?Robo wrote:t this point in time I am asking for a explanation of his first vote. I want to see something. Actual content. Not pure quotes, a casual comment and a smiley face. I want to see solid reasoning.
He gave you a quote. This means there is something he sees scummy in there. Are you really concerned this much over one small vote? It's one fucking vote that most people don't care about. Except you.
Because---
I can't do it anymore. It's because you're scared it'll turn into something bigger. Nah, I can.
Well, um, why would a townie be scared?
Because they'll die!
NO.
It's because this user must be scum.
Logic and conclusions easy stuff guys.
And then #99. Robo addresses me.
Complete misinterpretation, if that was even an interpretation. In this case, I was actually saying that there was a chance you were town. It was meh at best because it made some sense. More than you usually did. I was giving you a second chance after reading that for a moment.Robo wrote:1. My first point is "meh". OMG I AM CONFIRMED SCUM OMG OMG OMG LETS LYNCH GOGOGOGOGOGO. Really? "meh"?!
Then I read the rest of it.
You act like a vote means I'm confirming you as scum.Robo wrote:Is that really all you have against me and that somehow makes me confirmed scum?
Let's think about this again.
Why would Robo think that my vote would confirm him as scum?
We have to go outside of the box for this one. We're focusing on Robo of course.
If Robo was town, why would he think this?
He's crumbling under pressure.
And that's all I got.
If Robo was scum, why would he think this?
He's crumbling under pressure, and he's aware that he has two votes on him.
Again, look at his meta. He's being overly nice and sincere in his first post of a game where he flips town PR. Here? He's not really making any sense.
Let's make the connections people.
The key word was everything, but now I'm going to go against that for a moment just to get rid of you. That makes you special!Robo wrote:2. You are against explaining everything in a game where you are supposed to provide an argument against people in order to lynch scum. Do you even realize how totally outrageous you sound?
This is a small scumtell, while this point is overly null due to the misinterpretation of my post, but lynch "scum" sounds awkward. I don't see it being major, but I could see scumRobo changing his post to say scum rather than people out of fear of him being criticized. But that's taking it a bit too far for even my standards.
Along with point 1, this is scumRobo crumbling under pressure. Also, there's hints all around of Roboscum becoming annoyed at my word use. The word confirmed shouldn't intimidate a townie so much. A townie knows that they aren't confirmed scum, and should have that notion. I can't see Robotown coming out of this.Robo wrote:3. So by knowing info I am scum. So you are saying that I am supposed to not knw anything and randomly lynch people in high hopes they are scum? How are you supposed to catch scum without information? And even if this was true. Why does this confirm me as scum? I can understand makes me look scummy. But Confirmed? Like 100% chance, no doubt in your mind, that I am scum.
Also, I already have information. It comes from your posts.
And here I am back at Page 100.
This looks like a suitable wall for your pleasureable reading.
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But we've already passed that point.Robo wrote:but that could be just emotion or VIness, as scum definitely have a motivation to try and scumhunt here.
Robo has around 3500 posts.
If you're a VI and have around 3500 posts, meeeeeeeeeeeeeeh.
The only way I could see it is if Robo mods more than plays, but then again. Small argument that's futile.- Hiraki
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It's not really that far fetched.Robo wrote:I never said I was above anybody. And I never thought it. Thats just putting words in my mouth.
You've called this game bad, but refuse to call your play bad. Not only that, you refuse to defend yourself, because apparently we'll find anything you say scummy.
Let's see what's wrong here. You're assuming that we'll find everything scummy, and you won't defend yourself, because of point 1. This concludes that you do believe this notion because we must be wrong about criticizing you because you're above us.
Nowhere did you augment your argument, just drop it.
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[/quote="Robo"]Look, I fought the arguments before. They were denied.[/quote]No, actually you didn't.
This game stalled because I had to get a wall up on you, that no one believed I could make.
If you're saying that all the content on that wall is re-used content, surely you would've...
A) Brought it up before
B) Someone else should've noticed
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Fixing last post.
No, actually you didn't.Robo wrote:Look, I fought the arguments before. They were denied.
This game stalled because I had to get a wall up on you, that no one believed I could make.
If you're saying that all the content on that wall is re-used content, surely you would've...
A) Brought it up before
B) Someone else should've noticed
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His next post proves this.Amor wrote:What do you mean by this? Why Toro in particular?
It's shitty.
And then the whole buddying thing.
It's a yucky situation.
That's why I used all caps, used Fuck, and said Second Wind.Toro wrote:To me, this post here doesn't feel very sincere at all with him wanting to take his vote off.
HMMM.
And you didn't post a game...because?Toro wrote:Let's just say EMP's not the only one who has experienced this.
This was my only real mistake.Toro wrote:Wrong...again? Prior to this you called for the hammer on Robo.
I highly doubt Robo was going to say anything good either.
Your point?Toro wrote:He explained the flipfloppiness with really bad reasoning, it does happen.
Do you think I didn't want reasoning for actions of someone that I wanted to lynch?Toro wrote:And why the sudden change of heart? He had prior been hoping to rush D1 with the lynch of Robo, as seen in his ISO #19 (19!) And nooooow he wants a reasoning from him. This doesn't sit right with me at all.
Are you nuts.
My vote is much better here.
Unvote, Vote: Toro
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