ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

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Vote LynchMePls

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Bad RVS wagon is bad RVS wagon.

Oh, and why is that?

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Its a scumtell because there isn't a pro-town motive. The only motive I can think of is that SK and LMP are buddies and SK doesn't want LMP to have attention 0on him or that SK is scum and trying to suggest the LMP/SK connection after SK's death.

This is correct, by unvoting in the manner he did he undermines a lot of the credibillity of the LMP wagon, yes there is credibillity to an LMP wagon, it gives LMP an out, something easy to latch on to, I wanted to see his response to being put at L-3, I'm damn sure it's not something he'd be used to and it could help give a read on him.

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Unvote, Vote SK

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@ LB: What reaction did you expect, really? "Derp, I'm at L-3 for gits and shiggles, whatever." Yes, I'm undermining the credibility of the LMP wagon. I think we can do better.

MoI, for example...

I don't know. Now I won't get that reaction, I had no specific end goal in mind. Did you 'think we can do better' when you unvoted though? Because I don't see how it looks like that.

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FOS: LMP

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'HEY LOOK GUYS I'M SO STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS I UNVOTED AND VOTED IN THE SAME POST THEN ASKED LOST BUTTERFLY A STUPID QUESTION'

SK can die. You can die next. You're right this game is easy.

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Guess.

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I think your last point assumes optimal town play Empking, in that town can do scummy things, however I agree with your conclusion so I don't really care too much.

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#61 is such an amazing post.

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> people complaining about wall of texts
> there are no wall of texts


wat do now?

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Unvote: MagnaofIllusion
Vote: Lost Butterfly

for fantastic sheep work and little original contribution.

^ scum

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I am not ready for this much explosion.

Magua looks town.

Magua and MoI both might be trying to exploit my 'attack DGB=town meta' Bleh.

MoI is not a good day 1 lynch, even if you think he's scum.
He'll be a good Day 2 lynch though.
I clearly missed the boat on the SK hate - she unvoted from a wagon that was being run up to generate discussion...oooooh, scummy. (<---might be sarcasm)
Let's try this;

Unvote: LynchMePls
Vote: Lost Butterfly

I agree with SK's call that LB is being a bit sheepy, which I wouldn't expect from them.

this is a terrible post too.

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Vote: LynchMePls

Because his name just asks for it. >_>

Bad RVS wagon is bad RVS wagon.

Unvote: LynchMePls
Vote: Lost Butterfly

Unvote: Lost Butterfly
Vote: MagnaofIllusion

Also, yay I haz votes!

I've already explained why I jumped off the LMP wagon. The votes I've gotten because of it are rubbish, though. For one thing, buddying tells with no flips to back them up are almost always worthless. For another thing, theorizing that I'm scum trying to suggest a connection with LMP does not prove that I'm actually scum.

AGM, I don't know what you're talking about. The "yay I haz votes" gig was in reference to the people voting me, not the vote I had just made. What's up, man?

I'm still leaning toward the MoI side of the fence, but my LB vote suddenly became attractive again.

Unvote: MagnaofIllusion
Vote: Lost Butterfly

for fantastic sheep work and little original contribution.

Empking's theory-play is driving me up a wall, but I'm not sure it's actually scummy.

Mae is in territory.

P-Edit: Now she's in

FoS: Maemuki

territory.

hypocritical scumbag is VERY hypocritical. gg.

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Hint: Read Magua's posts. Notice a pattern.

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[qupte="Hindu"]SK sucks, really, but some of the people on the wagon are worse and I doubt there are that many people bussing him.
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name names. thanks.

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Hasdgfas: What do you think of SaintKerrigan?

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I was okay with Setael's original point, I just disagreed with it. LMP's vote is spectacularly crap based on garbage meta though. And it doesn't look like a Bus.

Town.

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Hi everyone.

Vote: LMP

^ town.

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Though if you could vote for his buddy SK it'd be real swell too~

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@LostButterfly - it's amazing, I hadn't realized it was scummy to vote Lost Butterfly in this game. Man, now we'll definitely have to lynch you because than we'll know the entire wagon is scum. Win/win, yeah?

might want to read the thread in closer detail, champ.

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If only I had two votes.

SK has a bigger wagon!

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I skim a lot, but I do recall you calling both SK and me in quick succession scum while quoting our votes for you as evidence. What did I miss?

I don't think you're scum. SK isn't scum for voting me, that's pretty blatantly not what I'm saying.

I said your post was terrible, as in bad, not scummy though. Your meta on me is just....pretty wrong, that's all. I don't really think I've sheeped anyway. I don't believe hascow is scum at this point either, but his points against me to me seem to come down to me being difficult and not willing to answer LMP's stupid question (which he didn't even care to follow up, thus further showing it was a stupid question)

Also SK's post where he re-votes us based on our 'new posts' seems disisgenous as there's no sheeping between the time he leaves and come back. It's even worse when he's far guiltier of sheeping and no content than pretty much anyone but Maemuki so far. You should vote him.

PEDIT: I'll take 'what is sarcasm' for 500 Andrius. I'm pretty sure Magua was trollin'. DGB is null.

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EBWOP: 'sheeping' as opposed to sheeping.

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I don't really like Andrius' first post at all, long post that...doesn't have a lot of meat to it.

I agree Faraday. Btw you're awesome!


~Min-

Never mind >_>

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ya it's been all me, obv.

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How about we get a Lost Butterfly vote for claiming the first voter on an RVS wagon that ballooned up unvoting the next time they post in thread is a scumtell because they weren't willing to stick by the wagon, and also for sheeping ruddy Empking reasoning. Seriously.

'scumtell' no, scum motivation? fucking definitely. thank you, come again. they're like pretty obvscum by this stage anyway so I don't even know what you're talking about. too much skimming leads to bad reads i guess.

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actually i'm relatively sure thor hasn't read the game by this point, so nvr mind. #135 kinda gives that away.

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no.

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LMP/Sk are both scum.

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SaintKerrigan (6) - Empking, Lost Butterfly, AlmasterGM, vezokpiraka, Benmage, Maemuki


GG thor.

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PRETTY MEAN TRAIN AINT IT. GUESS I DON'T NEED MINA AFTER ALL TO GET A WAGON.

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I usually don't scream but it's easier than signing our posts. I'm really not even sure why you asked about Mina since it's pretty obvious she hasn't posted yet, in fact I'm not even sure she knows the game has started as she's been working and is slightly busy elsewhere.

Though that MoI wagon is bigger - thoughts of your top competition?

they're both at 6, setael switched.

I already said I think he's town, I don't really see the wagon. LMP's meta point is actually false for one, I've seen MOI doing what's apparently a 'scumtell' for him as town just as often. I also think the original point MOI made on vezok was reasonable, in that if Vezok

is

scum you can probably expect one of the scum to be early on the LMP wagon, so I don't find him scummy for it at all. I'm not really sure on the whole 'reactions' thing, but I lean towards it being muchly overblown.

The case on SK isn't quite just that, what do you think of his re-vote of me claiming sheeping and 'no content' when the fact if you look at the unvote, and revote...well there's really none of that, all I'd done was call LMP out as his scumbuddy in that time. His hypocrisy is actually pretty startling when you look at his ISO and what he's apparently voting us for. I don't think I've been particularly sheepy at all, I stated my reasoning for the SK wagon initially and my read was further strenghtened.

I don't really understand why you've a problem with me interacting with you, I've enough posts calling Sk scum, I don't think you're especially likely to be scum, I just think you're reasons for voting me are bad. I mean, your meta is off which was the original point and I do think what SK did is more likely to come from scum in this particular scenario so of course I'm going to try and convince you you're wrong, although it does tend to vary wildly between UR AN IDIOT and 'semi reasonable'. I mean I personally hate 'don't lynch X day 1' wagons but it's not scummy, it's just kind of absurd.

As for the not reading part, well I think you mischaracterised the MOI wagon as having no reason? That's clearly not true even if I disagree with it.

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But while I have your ear why you gotta hate up ins.

I dunno. I think I'm just a little annoyed in general and it's seeping into this game as I have 3 rather terrible votes here that could be on scum, as opposed to me.

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Thor's bizarre defense just makes this even worse

You think that looks bad for MOI? I mean honestly it's just the sort of thing I could EVER EVER see a scumbuddy saying about the other. It's just that fucking crazy.

god fucking damn it.

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4. Can you point out the MoI case to me? I legitimately do not believe it exists. Please prove me wrong and I will let you touch my beard.

Okay sure, I'll point you to iso's I'm way too fucking lazy to link. Setael made the initial point. The DGB did a whole lotta spiel about dissecting his posts in great length. SpyreX hammers him hard. Bilbo also has pretty much been on his ass. I mean there's definitely a case there, even from a quick skim, I guess it depends on whether you agree with it or not. I'm not touching your beard in public though. I mean are you arguing the content of the case or saying there wasn't one put up, because the latter certainly aint true, lots of people have dedicated a hell of a lot of words.

And I actually think Empking was pretty on point, I don't buy people undermining him guy's kinda cookie but I've liked his posting a hell of a lot so far.

And you just want Mina posting because she's prettier, it's fine, I understand.

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I pooh-pooh on your Empking till I see him produce some results. I haven't played with him much but I haven't exactly walked away with my bosom aquiver afterwards to the point I'd want to sheep him.

So you seriously believe SK got spooked off of scumbuddy LMP? If that's the case, why aren't either of you pushing on LMP, he'd be the more valuable scum, yeah?

You are seriously odd. Who cares who's more valuable, wtf does that even mean? SK is slightly more likely to be scum, so we lynch him today. I'm sure this isn't Blackest Night.

I'm not sheeping Emp. I posted my reasons, Empking's were similar, there are some things he said I disagreed with but he's been mostly on the ball. I've already provided interdependent reason as to why SK is scum.

That is a case still, saying you don't agree with it is fine, saying there isn't one is an untruth. I'm not going to argue the merits of it, since I've already said I disagree with it, so I'm..not really sure why you bothered quoting it?

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If I told you SK was a guy would you vote for him?

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THIS IS A FUCKING LIE! I FOLLOWED UP AND YOU STILL REFUSED TO ANSWER.

ah yes the question was ~so important~ which is why you didn't care I ignored it the second time. your question was retarded and fluffy, just like most of your posts thus far. your caps lock rage here is so fucking obviously fake. IT WAS SO IMPORTANT A QUESTION I RESPONDED WITH LOL WHEN HE DIDN'T ANSWER IT.

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I had something to say about this quote but somehow I missed it. Anyways, I like the logic behind it and I'm giving it some thought.

derp more scum.

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no sorry you're not my type, maybe if you were town.

I mean your FAKE RAGE is pretty impressive, it carried you through Storm for a little bit. I'm just pretty amazing. you're caught. vote SK, someone will vig you tonight and we'll be off to an amazing start.

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Let me get this straight. I ask you a question. You ignore it. I ask you again. You ignore it. And the result from this is that I'M SCUM!? FUCK YOU!

hey guys, LMP's a real sensitive guy when town and replaced out of brotherhood of the wolf for being ~insulted~ guess he has no problem throwing 'em around as scum. SCUM GONNA SCUM. UMAD I CAUGHT YOU? SO FUCKING MAD

and yes, you're scum for being scum who asks pointless fluffy questions which he has no actual desire to get answers in.

also see: rule 2, you are personally upsetting me atm.

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Yet I am not the one ad-homming

Hmm. I don't think LMP is the cult leader, btw in case it wasn't obvious. I liked the way he subtly tried to induce DGB paranoia about SpyreX, that was very well done. A true master of subtlety.

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Thats awesome Faraday. So if someone mentions that they want their reads set in stone, and I not subtly but very flatly say "WE HAVE A CULT", that makes me scum. Everything I do makes me scum in Faraday's mind. But he's not voting me.

But yes, I'm voting SK as he has the bigger wagon and I think he's slightly more likely scum than you still I'm not sure why *you* in particular would have a hard time understanding that

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Ok Faraday. I can't wait for endgame to rub your face in this.

+5 points for the person who can find the problem with this post.

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And yes, an L-3 large wagon has credibillity or momentum or whatever the fuck you want to call it, SK completely ruined that. I don't even understand how that's debateable.

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I'm going to stop posting for a bit though, thread needs room to breathe and I'm clogging it up.

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The last page or two reinforces why I'm happy with an LB vote. Absolutely ludicrous behavior(from both involved, but instigated by LB)

yeah i instigated it by telling him to die in a fire and fuck off. get out. seriously. you really SHOULD NOT be happy with your original vote anyway since your case is completely off the wall wrong.

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In other words, if this:

And yes, an L-3 large wagon has credibillity or momentum or whatever the fuck you want to call it, SK completely ruined that.

is true, why didn't you say that when I asked?

because the answer is self evident and it's more fun for me to make you guess

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I desperately want to see what the Mina half of Lost Butterfly has to say about me being Town or Scum.

I'm pretty sure I can read you better than Mina can. But maybe that's me being arrogant.

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Me too >_>

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An overwhelming amount of content, I know. Also, you sheeped the LMP wagon and my wagon. The only wagon I sheeped on was MoI's.

'sheeping is only scummy when i say it is' thanks. i'm glad you linked to my content filled post, my fos on lmp was pretty impressive. still, the supposed sheeping came BEFORE these posts, so could you kindly admit to pulling shit out of your ass we can move on and lynch you.

hasdgfas: what does 'off' mean and off compared to where?? what games of mine are you referring to. we've never played together and you've modded me in one game. what games of mine have you read? you can feel free to keep waiting for mina, i'm sure she'll be much more pleasant but for the moment i'm posting and your case on me amounts to using rhetoric (which makes me think you don't have meta on me), me being difficult (once again, makes me think that your calling me 'off' is wrong) and...I don't remember the other point? sheeping? w/e.

hey hasdgfas and saintkerrigan, what do you think of LMP's 199 and then his #212 how well do they work together for you?

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@Nexus: thoughts on the game, I know you've been around.

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still, the supposed sheeping came BEFORE these posts, so could you kindly admit to pulling shit out of your ass we can move on and lynch you.

When did I say that the sheeping occurred in those posts? As for the other question...they work well enough, I guess? What's your point?

oh you 're-evaluated' based on the old information. gotcha. teehee.

as for my point, I don't know take a wild guess.

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THIS IS A FUCKING LIE! I FOLLOWED UP AND YOU STILL REFUSED TO ANSWER.

[..]
DIAF LYING SCUM.

Ok Faraday. I can't wait for endgame to rub your face in this.

these two.

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who would you say I'm 'sniping' at? as for 'not a protown attitude' well I'll just have to disagree. do you feel scum are more likely to be difficult or refuse to answer questions? I guess your analysis just seems a little lazy to me, like you're basically looking at my play on the surface and going 'I don't like that' and voting for me because you disagree with the manner i'm playing more than anything else.
I assumed by off you meant compared to previous games, fair enough then.

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like the more I read that the more to me it looks like lmp *knows* I'm going to flip town, does anyone else see it? I'm not going crazy here, why would you ever say that to someone you apparently think is scum?

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well, flip is the wrong word, but knows I am town.

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...but you're being overly difficult[...].
You also seem to be taking little snipes at people. It's like you're trying to be annoying.

That would be the dumbest, most counterproductive scum strategy EVA, don't you think?

Not if you can use it to provoke players and then say 'oh you fakeraged last time as scum, haha you scumbag'. Because LB has been a bit too deliberate about inciting specific reactions he can use against LMP. I very very much mistrust it.

oh yes I *definitely* provoked him and that 'strong reaction' (this is sarcasm). his rage came out of nowhere that's why it's very fake. but anyway this reactions thing is rather null for me i would think, it's a silly discussion.

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Actually, LB, you're right. He couldn't rub it in your face if you were scum.

so do you think that makes him scummy?

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Don't see an issue here. Seems like exactly what I'd expect. Angry person going "well I'll show

you

" and saying that he can taunt you in endgame. I've seen it before.

'haha you were scum and you incorrectly guessed my alignment' is that what he plans on saying? you see how that makes zero sense? i wanted to discuss it with Mina more before doing anything, really, as I'm kinda omgus-y so i want to make sure I'm seeing things clearly.

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i'm not arguing with MOI. you mean LMP?

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I'm going to ignore Andy's post, because since they're wrong about me they're probably wrong about everything else.

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Oh wow, Andy asked if I think LMP is scum. Jeez that's an alignment piercing question and a half! It's almost like reading the thread you'd be unable to tell what I think.

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Making assumptions about who's scum and trying to find buddies based off that Day 1 is a shot in the dark

This. Faraday is clearly egging LMP on into a downward spiral. Also, since Faraday hates bussing as scum, him and Magna fit perfectly together. CLEARLY attempting to divert from a leading wagon.
Also, what do you think the chances are of Faraday/Magna buddies?

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I'm *really* curious as to why the 'cult recruiter' isn't the person Bilbo Baggins is voting too.

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Thor: have you ever expressed a similar position on someone in a game before? I.e. the anti policy lynch.

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Hey, Magua I know you didn't read Andrius' post and I don't blame you, but what do you think of the fact they think you're the cult leader and don't vote you? Does it make you curious too?

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All those quotes and Andrius hasn't read the thread to see my opinion on lmp

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Empking: thoughts on LMP? I know you think SK is scum still but you think LMP is scum either independantly or with him?

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So Faraday why can't you simply say "LMP is scum"?
I

won't

will Lie Detector you on it, so make it flashy.

-A

p.s. You think he's scum. Cool story bro. Hell, while you're at it, why don't you say the following: "I am aligned with the town". Take heart and have faith. The faithful have nothing to fear- certainly not an inquiry for heretics.

I'll do it on the next page, maybe.

P.s. you should really think why you're first paragraph doesn't make any sense.

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YOUR*

WHOOPS.

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Are you just trying to be a prick?

-A

yes. hold on.

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LMP/Sk are both scum.

I had something to say about this quote but somehow I missed it. Anyways, I like the logic behind it and I'm giving it some thought.

derp more scum.

no sorry you're not my type, maybe if you were town.

I mean your FAKE RAGE is pretty impressive, it carried you through Storm for a little bit. I'm just pretty amazing. you're caught. vote SK, someone will vig you tonight and we'll be off to an amazing start.

Let me get this straight. I ask you a question. You ignore it. I ask you again. You ignore it. And the result from this is that I'M SCUM!? FUCK YOU!

hey guys, LMP's a real sensitive guy when town and replaced out of brotherhood of the wolf for being ~insulted~ guess he has no problem throwing 'em around as scum. SCUM GONNA SCUM. UMAD I CAUGHT YOU? SO FUCKING MAD

and yes, you're scum for being scum who asks pointless fluffy questions which he has no actual desire to get answers in.

also see: rule 2, you are personally upsetting me atm.

So I've hardly *avoided* giving an opinion on LMP....hence me refusing to answer your question, the answer is self evident from the thread...


I am town/aligned with the town. lol lie detector.

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No, but all I asked for was a quick answer and that you denied me.
Hmmm...... Faraday, what do you think of SpyreX?

Town.

Yes. This guy has good reads.

also *Please* call the account LB so I remember I'm in a fucking hydra game. Mina's pretty much V/la and only skimmed the thread once but still.

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Flameaxe, Strongman, NPC aligned with Mafia, killed N0

@ SpyreX, from the pregame flavour.

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Flameaxe, Strongman, NPC aligned with Mafia, killed N0

@ SpyreX, from the pregame flavour.

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Hi, this is Mina, I'm still on V/LA, I have to head to work in the next five minutes, I haven't even read the middle few pages of the thread, and I still have no clue who's scum.

unvote

seriously, MoI, claim. If you don't claim in your next post, I will put you at L-1 again, and I don't care if someone hammers. In fact, I encourage it. Likewise, if someone else puts you at L-1, and you post again without claiming, I will hammer.

I hate you. If you are town, I genuinely hate you right now.

Remember what lost the game for the town in ASOS? Premature claiming.

MoI is usually pretty hard to read, but seriously? The case on him is that he thought it was suspicious people were RVS-wagoning LMP over vezokpiraka. His reaction to being quick-wagoned also feels like Town Magna getting pissy over a wagon he doesn't think he deserves. NO FUCKING CLAIMING.

IF SOMEONE HAMMERS AT L-1, I AM CONSIDERING YOU CONFIRMED SCUM. DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE HAMMER RIGHT NOW.

But I took the liberty of ISO-ing you since I didn't actually read the middle chunk of the game. I just wanted to see what made you so convinced in MoI's guilt that you wanted a claim or quicklynch two days after the thread opened. First you basically try to follow the crowd and hop on LMP. Then:

Fuck you Faraday <3

Andy:

unvote

vote: MoI

Happy?

Seriously though, you guys need to stop being dicks to each other. It's not fun for the rest of us to read.

Pretty please with sugar on top.

Vote count is seven for MoI at this point.

I'd understand if you were pulling a Reck/Katsuki/Parama in Psychic Mafia and tunneling like crazy. But you really don't seem to give a shit about the MoI case. You were wishy-washy, but nowhere near this useless in ASOS. I don't buy your call

MFHOS: Nexus

This would be a vote, but I'm a hydra. Consider this an official open letter to Faraday to

change

our vote to Nexus right now.

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unvote, vote nexus

who's a sexy hydra?

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Nexus give me the bullet points on why MOI is scum, too.

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I don't think Magna needs to claim just yet, and hopefully not at all. He's not even at fucking L-1 thus there's no one who has the capabillity to hammer. Put your money where your mouth is nexus. 11 to lynch, you're so convinced you'll hammer without a claim, so it shouldn't matter, right? (spoiler: I don't think Nexus will hammer without a claim, posturing is what it looks like)


Emp: Mina can probably elaborate, but it's mostly a gut thing, I feel like Magna's reaction to the wagon has looked townie frustrated as opposed to scum frustrated too. Do you disagree?

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Oh and V/la till tuesday!

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Cow: What do you think of hypocrisy. Scumtell y/n?

Benmage: thoughts on cow, magua and SaintKerrigan please.

Hey Magua! Is Hinduragi town?

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I am around, need to read what I missed I guess. I'll be V/la from thi Sunday due to Goofbash however me and Mina will be able to read the thread together and stuff which is kinda awesome >_>

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Hindu/Cow/LMP/Nexus/SK/Bilbo trolllllllllll.

^ scums be a lying here in a plenty.

Vote SK

#467 makes me rage that he thinks he can get away with posting it.


Bilbo Baggins needs to get in this thread. I wanna dance with the pretty hobbitses~

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Unvote, Vote Benmage

like this?

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Well we are a very sexy butterfly...

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What doesn't make sense? Thor asked me quite nicely to vote for you, so I did.

are you fully caught up with the thread? Who do you suspect? You were pretty much at nothing all of yesterday.

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Oh, no you're right I've not listed you as a suspect.

Cool though, looking forward to you being actually caught up on the thread.

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Are you a miller?

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Hey, Set. You know when you backed off Feysal in storm because of the softclaim, are you saying you'd have pushed that as town?

Unvote, Vote SK

had my fun with benmage. He needs to provide content though.

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V/la, Canada time.

SK vote is a good vote.

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maemuki just strikes me as actively bad as opposed to scummy, not sure how to read her, hascow voting empking (aka number 1 townie) is terrible too.

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NUMBER 1 townie, he's on another level at this stage.

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hasdgfas' only good post was where he made a pretty poor case on us I am very concerned.


WHDHDHJ HOW DID I MANAGE TO SWITCH ACCOUNTS, WTF.

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espe: can i've a link of a town and scum game you replaced into after day 1, if that's possible.

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meh, that's not what i was looking for, never mind then. i always get twitchy when a replacement goes 'oh you lynched X day 1? LOL YOU ARE SO BAD' kinda thing and wanted to see if you'd done it before as town/scum.

>_>

<_< me too faraday.

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@Espeo - I see apologies for missing too many days in a row from him in that game, and I see zero issue with reading up, and never is there a day he manages to post where it's not multiple posting - unlike here.
Also, he's not offending anyone, and over half his posts are dueling with me.
Look at the town game - insults, aggravation, excitment, small firework displays, and a lesson to the kids at the end that town don't try to look town, town find scum.
So you're saying he's being fairly quiet and town looking?
I say that's him being scum.

oooh. oooooooooh.

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ENJOY ROPE EH???

In terms of

Faraday

, he is

not

above emotionally manipulating people he suspects into frustration and frustration-caused mistakes in judgment. If he judges himself in a position of power, he may act like a bit of a jerk and use the rise he gets out of his target to manipulate opinion against the target (a basic rhetoric function) and to manipulate the target. Most attention he has drawn this game has been in the direction of people he's attacking; in the current meta this is certainly not default negative attention drawn, and it remains unclear whether it will pan out as attention a scumbag wouldn't want drawn to himself - but post like this make me worried that it is calculated. But drawing out things he can put down as lolflailscum or you fakerage scum you seems deliberate, much too much so for my taste, especially post Mafia MetaMafia (by the way, Faraday, I've forgiven you for messing with me that game because you were scum . . . <3 . . . er).
.

see i never tried to get a rise out of lmp untll the diaf, i'm still pretty sure his question was stupid and was making a point, his reaction looked completetly overblown. then admittedly i had fun getting a rise for kicks probably.

i did think you were an SK for like 5 minutes in metamafia hence the complete overrreaction.

want to say more but this keyboard is retarded.

[Lost Butterfly]

NO HAMMER YOU FUCKS. YOUR TOWN LEADER MINA IS HERE TO SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVE YOU.

faraday is here too.

[Lost Butterfly]

oh yeah, you guys can IRL hydra now. must be cool.

>_>

<_< yeah we're planning on getting the thread read fully tomorrow, we're about up to page 10ish.

we decided to go to the pub instead on monday and tuesday. was much more fun.

[Lost Butterfly]

unvote

haven't read the claim or any of that stuff but will *eventually*

[Lost Butterfly]

^ THAT WASN'T MINA, I THINK FATE MURDERED HER IRL. R.I.P.

[Lost Butterfly]

(joke >_>)

[Lost Butterfly]

someone summarise what we both missed.

magua, you're a funny guy, you do it if you want.

[Lost Butterfly]

I may have missed some stuff, but if you really cared you'd've read it anyways.

at an internet cafe, just trying to catch up with current events. will read eventually, sounds fun (lol)

[Lost Butterfly]

vote hascow

SHINY WAGON.

not read the thread, doing shots with Mina > reading this fucking game with Mina. except your regularly scheduled lost butterfly as of now.

[Lost Butterfly]

@LB - please correct me if I'm wrong, I feel like Mina has made about...what, 3-4 posts this entire game? What is this shazbot?

maybe even less actually. mina's a slow reader though, she was busy with an offsite game first week and is only playing this due to my captivating irish charm (tm) she'll post when she's ready, you have me for now and that's good enough for anyone.

[Lost Butterfly]

There are good reasons to believe Vezok could be scum.

Empking is obviously town DGB. Have a job interview tomorrow but will be reading through what I missed and stuff laters.

[Lost Butterfly]

This is *not* the town Setael I know and love. Why?

[Lost Butterfly]

Bleh LMP's apology looks townish, feel bad for trolling you now.

[Lost Butterfly]

unvote, vote vezok

[Lost Butterfly]

vezok already dropped his biggest scumtell.

[Lost Butterfly]

unvote, vote cow

[Lost Butterfly]

@Faraday: Need details on how my play here differs from the town meta you have on me.

...just about everything seems different, like your early play looked okay I guess, but since then you seem to have completely faded off into...pretty much nothingness and I don't like it. you're not being your 'obvtown'' self is the gist of it.

[Lost Butterfly]

Faraday, how would you compare my play here to my scum play? I'm fascinated by your argument since I think it applies to you much more than to me.

Also, what do you think of espeonoge?

i don't really expect you to find yourself scummy though, that'd be silly. also the argument doesn't apply to me *at all*, since i'm totally townie here, it's not particularly similar to storm either btw, hence the lack of vote, but it's off and worth

noting.

NO IDEA, who'd he replace? maemuki? could be scum, probably isn't.

MEEEEEEEE.

[Lost Butterfly]

Benmage is cheeky town, nothing to see here folks. Wagoners should wagon someone else and so forth.

[Lost Butterfly]

Actually with all the evidence provided I'm pretty much modconfirmed town.

^ very townish post.

[Lost Butterfly]

this looks like a better version of benmage from court, actually, I think Lost Butterfly seems to have a negative affect on his play or something.

[Lost Butterfly]

ooba changed his avatar


Oh, let's lynch cow. Magua and Benmage are both probably town I think.

[Lost Butterfly]

agm, empking and you, ben. cult needs recruits and presumably can't recruit scum + you've all a decent chance of making it quite a while in the game.

these are just my personal choices admittedly, not lost butterfly's.

[Lost Butterfly]

YA DUMBASS

YA DUMBASS

[Lost Butterfly]

oh magua's going to get confirmed as town? awesome.

[Lost Butterfly]

oh magua's going to get confirmed as town? awesome.

I don't get your comment.

magua is town
you investigated magua
he will be confirmed as town

[Lost Butterfly]

i'd just assumed you were trolling the investigation up untill you said it'd be posted in thread.

[Lost Butterfly]

ugh. i think we probably have a cult cop.

anyone want to counterclaim? (this is me not counterclaiming)

[Lost Butterfly]

Actually, that seems fairly Ooba-modish in my mind. make some roles fit the flavour, and some roles not.

[Lost Butterfly]

actually i was thinking the same thing, in terms of flavour it makes sense.

mafia would never kill a cult cop barring them being some sort of fucking morons. i'm probably content to give hascow another day.

unvote

kinda lost tbh. benmage and magua both look town. blah, time to re-read.

[Lost Butterfly]

hasdgfas is town, let's not be stupid here, thanks.

[Lost Butterfly]

not *that* sure but happy enough to give him a day at least. idk i think there'd be a cult cop in this game, i don't remember a cult game without one.

[Lost Butterfly]

unvote, vote cow

[Lost Butterfly]

awesome!

[Lost Butterfly]

SCUMMY WORTHY INDEED, SIR.

[Lost Butterfly]

@Scumteam. AGM or Spy is who I would kill to nail the scum recruit and or a strong townie.

yeah I'd shoot spyrex.

[Lost Butterfly]

benmage is a good shot too.

[Lost Butterfly]

benmage is a good shot too.

Only cause you have no risk of being shot.

i was disappointed i wasn't shot night 1, never expected it since, luckily, since i was all lurky.

[Lost Butterfly]

Oh, cool. Failhammered.

Doubt it's AGM-CR. Spyrex-CR was that theory I mentioned earlier. When he voted Cow, that was what made me think about it more. Benmage? I don't know. Does he gambit a lot?

No I'm totally scum suiciding the cult cop..??

well duh

[Lost Butterfly]

SHUSH DGB.

[Lost Butterfly]

oh no, he's totes town, but still.

[Lost Butterfly]

I like how hascow hasn't even complained about Benmage's CC being a lie.

i'm trying to draw the nightkill away from benmage, but dgb professing him as obvtown means it won't work as well

[Lost Butterfly]

By the power of the mother I save Hasdgfas

SUP, WE CAN CALL YOU ZDENEK.

[Lost Butterfly]

now start fucking scumhunting hascow.

[Lost Butterfly]

unvote, vote CyberSet

let's see what happens~

[Lost Butterfly]

Why would Cow call me scum, and not cult?

doesn't matter he's not getting lynched today

[Lost Butterfly]

no, you're insane.

[Lost Butterfly]

LB, what happens if we try and lynch Cow?... will we get a mod message of this govern?

yeah, it'll be announced he can't be lynched next time ooba posts a votecount, if we try, well it just won't work and day will continue untill we no lynch at deadline or lynch someone else.

[Lost Butterfly]

Why would Cow call me scum, and not cult?

Because I didn't see you "counterclaim" me. If I had, you can bet it all I would have had you as cult.

How could you not see that, you filthy lying cult recruiter, I even made a post referring to it in between.

was that where you said "you've been flavr-counterclaimed"?

Because if so, I thought you were counterclaiming.

Then why didnt u call DGB cult?

he voted her, iirc.

[Lost Butterfly]

my save was real, i can use it at any point during the day and/or twilight. I considered using it on MOI day 1...but wasn't quite arrogant enough.

[Lost Butterfly]

town:
Benmage
thor
magua
empking
agm
DGB

fuck I need more town reads BADLY.

locke's early play looked townish but he's completely gone off the boil, due to inactivity.

Mina mentioned having a weird feeling about SpyreX but idk, he looked townish day 1. she'd read some of day 2 at that point, but w/e. hopefully i can kidnap her away from other games and force her to read this fucking disaster before this day ends.

Nexus is....lurking like a champ too, I'm pretty sure. I don't even remember if there's anyone else playing the game at this point, tbh.
oh vezok is scummy. he's not dropped his early claim town tell, he was town in succession and did it so it being a cult game isn't an excuse.

cow is probably town, hence the fuckin' govern.

[Lost Butterfly]

*sigh*, you fucking idiot, I was getting great reactions.

magua's confirmed town beyond any doubt with his reaction to that lynch.

[Lost Butterfly]

HURR DURR, IMPLYING I'M ACTUALLY A FUCKING GOVERNOR.

[Lost Butterfly]

it was either rage like magua or do something useful and see what'd happen.

[Lost Butterfly]

Don't act like the govern wasn't believable. Maybe for you, but I can guarantee not everyone noticed.

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BELIEVABLE. THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT.

[Lost Butterfly]

EXPLAIN YOUR VOTE THOUGH, OOBA'S NOT AROUND, LET'S FUCKING DANCE.

[Lost Butterfly]

*sigh*, you fucking idiot, I was getting great reactions.

magua's confirmed town beyond any doubt with his reaction to that lynch.

Why?

genuine anger is an extremely strong town tell.

[Lost Butterfly]

I DIDN'T THINK FARADAY. I'M COMPULSIVE. SORRY, GEEZ

>_> kay

[Lost Butterfly]

uh what? I answered your question already.

derp

[Lost Butterfly]

around day 2, me and mina read half the game in starbucks and i kinda cringed (and mina laughed) at some of the things I was saying w/r/t the question he asked us. no real opinion on him, he dropped us down his scumlist, and i already mentioned i actually think he's more likely town than average now, the apology thing felt sincere. so day 2, I guess.

[Lost Butterfly]

people keeping up the charade of 'hascow is scum' should stop posting it's kind of making me angry.

anyway thor i've been amazingly pro town since day 1, or when i've had a chance to post. if you're a good boy i might even get mina to post

[Lost Butterfly]

vote benmage

might move it when he apologises for being a retarded fuck, might not.

[Lost Butterfly]

fwiw we've probably got 3 cult and i think we started with 4 scum just given game size (3 is possible but hope for the worst)

[Lost Butterfly]

Vote: Spyrex

Scum must be borderline fucking retarded. How many of us said Spyrex might be the CR? 3? 4? Same cult-paranoia throughout the game and he's pushing a predetermined cult case on me. False as hell. I'd been pushing Cow long before he claimed. This looks bad considering he DID flip Cult Cop but to hell with that. If I get lynched, I get lynched. At least Spyrex will be NK'd from it.

So what you're saying is SpyreX is Mafia, basically. Cool.

[Lost Butterfly]

I kind of want vezok to claim. Because he's scum.

[Lost Butterfly]

Shrug, mafia would have taken a shot last night if he wasn't mafia. They *want* the cult dead, especially given the gamestate. The DGB kill is well weird too, unless they thought she was cult, which was possible, but she was obviously not cult leader.

[Lost Butterfly]

god if i was a vig benmage would be so fucking dead and i'd be so happy. instead derpkerrigan gets vig. trollololllolol mod.

[Lost Butterfly]

Vezok is probably scum.

[Lost Butterfly]

italicise is? idk. it's not like you even need to pay THAT much attention.


also hinduragi is not mafia, at least, could be cult.

[Lost Butterfly]

Hmm, I thought SpyreX dropped some non mafia tells early actually, asking if there was a scumgroup in this game, I'd have thought that's something he would be aware of as Cult Leader too, or more aware of at any rate, I mean you KNOW you can't recruit till day 2, wasn't it? So what town jump around trolling and lynching town for 2 days? Eh?. I badly need a re-read in all likelyhood.

Someone do some VCA even though it's mostly lucky guesswork.

[Lost Butterfly]

Magua: Why do you think hindu was recruited? I'd not recruit him as CL personally, he's looked kinda scummy at times. There are far better recruits out there, in my mind.

Thor said it too, so he can answer I guess.

[Lost Butterfly]

faraday's not even a player in the game you idiot.

[Lost Butterfly]

POLICY LYNCH ON BENMAGE, GO.

[Lost Butterfly]

also if you think i'm scum you're more incompetent than you demonstrated yesterday. which is pretty fucking special.

[Lost Butterfly]

shut up and die.

[Lost Butterfly]

i can *hate* today, i decided to try be useful in twilight now i can unleash my fucking rage.

[Lost Butterfly]

see i don't even have to pretend. i literally don't care what you are, i want you dead.

[Lost Butterfly]

you fucking suck

your scum.

You're* is the correct way to type that, unless you think I have scum? and am hiding them or something?????


MY SCUM? WHERE ARE THEE?


nope, still bad benmage.

[Lost Butterfly]

REPLACEOUT dipshit

BUT IF I'M SCUM I'M OKAY AM I NOT? TROLLOLOLOLOL

ooba can force replace me if he feels i'm playing against my wincon and confirm this slot as town if he wishes.

[Lost Butterfly]

Why won't you replaceout?

Do you think my alignment isn't town?

I literally don't care what your alignment is. This is why it's called a policy lynch. the game will be better off without you.

[Lost Butterfly]

Cow play a horrendous game. And I am not one to have roles save you over play. Otherwise scum will never be lynched.

lmao, keep justifying it all you want, you fucked up BADLY. or maybe you're scum (lol)

[Lost Butterfly]

@ benmage : replace out, thanks.

[Lost Butterfly]

LOL are you serious. you gigantic waste of fucking space i swear to god if you're town you are banned from all my future games and i will do my best to make sure anyone competenet never plays this fucking game with you again you stupid fucking arrogant prick.

[Lost Butterfly]

YOU GOT A RESULT NIGHT 1 BUT NEVER PUSHED US. OH TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL TROLL? YOU VOTED COW OVER US YOUR GUILTY YOU FUCKING IDIOT YOU EXPECT ANYONE TO BUY THAT?

[Lost Butterfly]

You're a Cult Cop too?

Unvote

Vote: LB

WHERE;'S HIS FUCKING PUSH ON US YOU IDIOT? HE'S NOT A FUCKING COP.

[Lost Butterfly]

I felt I crumbed it well enough in death.. and wanted another result out there before I'd obviously die...

It was a risk, but I was bummed when I died in Pats game after nailing a scum... and took a risk here.... I also didnt think with the lack of content I was a big NK threat.

D1
D2
D3
D4


TEEHEE. you so bad at the game.

[Lost Butterfly]

You're a Cult Cop too?

Unvote

Vote: LB

WHERE;'S HIS FUCKING PUSH ON US YOU IDIOT? HE'S NOT A FUCKING COP.

I've called you scum a million times...

LMAO OH YOU BAD BAD PLAYER. you can't even make a fake cop claim sound credible. get out.

[Lost Butterfly]

, but if we're going to have 7 town deaths in a row in exchange for a CR flip, I'm ready to play this game.

Faraday, what the fuck is this? Don't even try and explain the shenanigans from yesterday for it. We both voted and took a risk. And that risk failed because he was gambit'ing.

excuse me. what the fuck are you talking about. i didn't believe he was moronic enough to do that as town, thought he'd learned his lesson from storm. guess what he's not town (probably) so it doesn't matter.

[Lost Butterfly]

I felt I crumbed it well enough in death.. and wanted another result out there before I'd obviously die...

It was a risk, but I was bummed when I died in Pats game after nailing a scum... and took a risk here.... I also didnt think with the lack of content I was a big NK threat.

D1
D2
D3
D4


TEEHEE. you so bad at the game.

D2/D3... D1 i didnt have the result... Oh look D4 just started... 2 days.

^ doesn't even realise he should have 3 results, apparently.

[Lost Butterfly]

HEY, read benmage's iso and tell me he has a guilty on us with a straight face hinduragi.

now let's stop fucking around and vote him.

[Lost Butterfly]

Lynching MoI so early was craptastic. If you were genuinely that ready to lynch MoI at that point of the game, shame on you.

Like me.

Vote: Nexus

D1 reasoning still stands.

Because?!?!?!!……Gotta explain things guys.

Hindu/Cow/LMP/Nexus/SK/Bilbo trolllllllllll.

^ scums be a lying here in a plenty.

Vote SK

#467 makes me rage that he thinks he can get away with posting it.

Uhhhh what of the post 467 do you dislike?....I’d also say that this doesn't make sense to have this post follow it:

Unvote, Vote Benmage

like this?

Love a good Train choo choo...You'll especially like a claim from me.

HEY GUYS BENMAGE HAS A GUILTY ON ME HERE, TROLL.

[Lost Butterfly]

What doesn't make sense? Thor asked me quite nicely to vote for you, so I did.

are you fully caught up with the thread? Who do you suspect? You were pretty much at nothing all of yesterday.

-I dont recall you ever listing me as a suspect.
--So you like wasting time?? Or do you have some reason to think I'm scum?
---Nope
----People
-----On pg 6

HEY GUYS BENMAGE HAS A GUILTY ON ME HERE, TROLL.

[Lost Butterfly]

Oh ya and

vote Vezo

OMGUS

DAT GUILTY.

[Lost Butterfly]

you picked the wrong person to dance with boy.

[Lost Butterfly]

hey benmage, self vote, it'll give us less info as to your cult/scum buddies.

[Lost Butterfly]

you picked the wrong person to dance with boy.

There's no questions here... I can't possibly be anything than what I am saying.. and you know it.

Rage More PLEASE.

mmmm and you're now realising you need to pick easy targets as I'll tear your terrible fakeclaim apart.

[Lost Butterfly]

i will continue showing why benmage doesn't have a guilty on me, if it wasn't apparent by now, on request i suppose.

[Lost Butterfly]

Rage More Please.

you should practise in the newbie queue, your fakeclaims I mean, this is a step beyond your skill level.

[Lost Butterfly]

2 on benmage
1 on lost butterfly.

[Lost Butterfly]

Magua: Why do you think hindu was recruited? I'd not recruit him as CL personally, he's looked kinda scummy at times. There are far better recruits out there, in my mind.

Thor said it too, so he can answer I guess.

His was the worst vote on a wagon to slam through a lynch on something that was very bad for cult.

POLICY LYNCH ON BENMAGE, GO.

Oh gawds I'm feeling this. Benmage's play looks *nothing* like he has a guilty on LB.
That said his play finally (sadly?) looks like his townplay. I presume he also knows what he's talking about because he's mumbling about me as cult, not scum, which makes sense as well.

There's no way cult would claim something that would make scum kill them or fish out a town PR that is only a danger to scum.
Scum claiming scum cop after a cult cop flip has balls the size of casaba melons and is functionally setting himself up for death or counterclaim in very short order.
Town...playing in one of the most horrible ways I've seen a cop play...makes the most sense.

Vote: LostButterfly

Hey, scum - counterclaim Benmage and I PROMISE you I'll lynch him first.

you better be fucking scum with this absolute trash

[Lost Butterfly]

I'd like to hear his other results too. I have no idea why those can't be claimed.

They will be claimed. I'd like everyone to post who they think is:
3 scum
3 town
3 cult

I dont want my results to influence these reads beforehand.

NO DICE, SCUM. YOU, GO SIT IN THE CORNER AND AWAIT YOUR LYNCH.

[Lost Butterfly]

There's no way cult would claim something that would make scum kill them or fish out a town PR that is only a danger to scum.
Scum claiming scum cop after a cult cop flip has balls the size of casaba melons and is functionally setting himself up for death or counterclaim in very short order.
Town...playing in one of the most horrible ways I've seen a cop play...makes the most sense.

Guys, seriously - we're lynching Benmage?
So the theory is he's cult/scum doing this to destroy the uber threat of LB? I mean, I thought LB was town too, but what the frell?

YOU DO REALISE TODAY IS POSSIBLE LYLO, RIGHT?

[Lost Butterfly]

Look, Thor, if Benmage was a Cop, and he got culted, this is a perfect stunt. They can pretty much DOMINATE mafia, MORESO if he isn't lying. It's a hard fucking decision to make.

read his iso and tell me has a guilty on me. HE NEVER EVEN FUCKING VOTED US OR INDICATED SUSPICION OF THIS, don't give me this garbage about it being a hard decision.