So, you can't be a mod for three months?
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So, you can't be a mod for three months?
I'm a bit saddened by this.@_@ I have a themed Mafia game I ran on another forum and would love to start up here.You don't stand a ghost of a chance.- ReaperCharlie
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Try PMing mith, the site owner. He might give you a bit of leeway if he sees that you've successfully moderated elsewhere before.Show"Take me to Pleasure Town!" "Look, the most Glorious Rainbow Ever!" "Do me on it!" -
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If you PM mith with a game of experience, you MIGHT be able to pass the Mini Normal/Open queues, but you still need the 3 months, I believe."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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You see, the pace of this site is probably very different from yours. Our game play is also likely very different as well. What worked on your site will probably not work here without some serious revision. We take mafia seriously here.
Also, this is to ensure that people don't immediately /in to mod, then come when they have to mod, they aren't around anymore."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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With that, I will take my leave.
I am confident that YamiChan is in capable hands...
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You see, MS has come up with several ways to break setups over the years. The game you want to mod may fall prey to this (the most infmous being cop + doctor). As well, we may have some roles that would work better for our community."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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Breaking setups = finding loopholes. And no, you cannot say THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN until you get several people to look at it.
Just because a game is a theme does not mean it can't be balanced as well. Just post in the review thread in Mafia Discussion that you want someone to look at the setup (if you want someone with said flavour knowledge, make sure to ask for this), and you will get a second opinion from an interested reviewer, about how to fix the setup.
Also stop by the Theme Test thread in Mafia Discussion to see if there is interest."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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I'm not worried. Even if people find loopholes, that can be dealt with when neccessary. I've had plenty of people look at the game, however, including several who WANTED to break it, and they didn't manage. And I doubt interest will be a problem, given that the theme for my game is a pretty popular thing.You don't stand a ghost of a chance.- animorpherv1
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Well, I'm just giving you suggestions. Just that, if you start modding the game, and it hasn't been reviewed, with any new ideas taken into consideration and possibly used, then the game ends up being a total flop, everyone will hate you.
I also would like to recommend the Newbie Queue, in the same area as the Open Queue, for you to get an idea of the site and it's play style."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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It's happened before. Multiple times. Just please, please, if you will take ANY advice I give, take the advice in this thread."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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Stop changing the subject when I get you cornered in a point.
Game breaking is frowned upon here, but it is not a bannable offense, under the "Mod leaked info, it's now public." and "It was already public information, so we should use it." clauses, but feel free to blacklist from these people, but I once again say you shouldn't if you want to fill the game."Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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animorpherv1 wrote:You see, the pace of this site is probably very different from yours. Our game play is also likely very different as well. What worked on your site will probably not work here without some serious revision. We take mafia seriously here.
Also, this is to ensure that people don't immediately /in to mod, then come when they have to mod, they aren't around anymore.
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YamiChan wrote:O_o How stupid to hate someone because a round of Mafia doesn't go well.
YamiChan wrote:I always take Mafia seriously.
I sense an issue here.
Ani wrote:Game breaking is frowned upon here, but it is not a bannable offense, under the "Mod leaked info, it's now public." and "It was already public information, so we should use it." clauses, but feel free to blacklist from these people, but I once again say you shouldn't if you want to fill the game.
I will disagree with this, or perhaps phrase it differently. Game breaking within the rules of the game, turning the game into a coinflip or a numbers game is often regarded as poor setup design, but allowable play. I believe Texas Justice was broken to about a 75% (or I could be pulling that out of my arse) in favour of the town by the beloved Fonz, and that setup isn't run in the same way any more. The town essentially had to play to that strategy every game it maximise win %, which isn't fun. It's not an offense, but it's a fault in the setup.
Yami, I want to highlight that in two separate threads so far you've suggested banning of members. I think it's worth highlighting that MS.net runs a very light hand in terms of moderation of behaviour because A) we're all adults or close enough, and B) the mods are not your parents. People are not going to be banned here for minimal things because we're not that kind of community. We self-moderate in terms of social interaction (kind of like how Ani is doing here with you), and our games are run to strict rules, but in terms of things like avatars, signatures, language, and etiquette it's up to the user to get it right.
I wish you good luck, but I recommend that you review your position and reconsider that this site has run very capably as the largest mafia community for almost a decade, and has been stable and progressive. Our system isn't like what you came from, and we might not have images in sigs and our names might be confusing, but this forum is what it is. When you come to us, you are the bograt, you are the FNG, but you will always be welcome as a part of the crew.
EDIT: and who would've thought Ani would be the voice of reason. Stand proud, kid.It's unfortunate that good oral sex excuses bad chemistry. - Korts- YamiChan
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Oman, those things you quoted are not issues. It really is stupid to hate on someone because one round of Mafia does not go well. And according to the other poster, you have to take Mafia seriously here. She made it sound like if I didn't, I wasn't welcome.
I suggested punishing members who don't follow the rules and banning people if things got bad enough. That's a valid suggestion, and I'm pretty sure how things are actually supposed to be here. When bullying happens, I do think a mod should step in. When you refuse or make excuses, it can only end badly and get out of control.You don't stand a ghost of a chance.- animorpherv1
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YamiChan wrote:Oman, those things you quoted are not issues. It really is stupid to hate on someone because one round of Mafia does not go well. And according to the other poster, you have to take Mafia seriously here. She made it sound like if I didn't, I wasn't welcome.
As log as you don't act like an idiot/misguided troll to the posters, you would have been fine.
I suggested punishing members who don't follow the rules and banning people if things got bad enough. That's a valid suggestion, and I'm pretty sure how things are actually supposed to be here. When bullying happens, I do think a mod should step in. When you refuse or make excuses, it can only end badly and get out of control.
Uh, what rules are you talking about?"Animorpherv1's posts are so powerful that prolonged exposure may cause vertigo, nausea, acute tinnitus, and in rare cases, death." - vonflare
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YamiChan wrote:Oman, those things you quoted are not issues. It really is stupid to hate on someone because one round of Mafia does not go well. And according to the other poster, you have to take Mafia seriously here. She made it sound like if I didn't, I wasn't welcome.
It is because people take Mafia seriously that they react so badly to poor games. Even small games typically have a not insignificant time investment over several months and large games can take a year to complete; discovering that you just wasted a hundred hours of your time because the mod fucked his shit up is bad enough, but if it then turns out that the reason the errors the mod made have been made before and would have been easy to avoid if he'd gotten some extra opinions then serious drama can result.
YamiChan wrote:I suggested punishing members who don't follow the rules and banning people if things got bad enough. That's a valid suggestion, and I'm pretty sure how things are actually supposed to be here. When bullying happens, I do think a mod should step in. When you refuse or make excuses, it can only end badly and get out of control.
We are extremely lenient when it comes to aggression due to the nature of Mafia games. If everyone who was aggressive or held a vendetta was banned we'd rapidly end up with no players at all.- YamiChan
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ani, you have been asked several times to stop. You're not contributing to this topic, but just trying to bait me.
Neruz, as I've said, I've gotten many opinions on my game, ran four rounds of it, and have had people playing who actually were trying their hardest to break it because they were not very nice people. And mods make rules, so they should uphold them. You can't let fear or fondness of a certain member hold you back or it will not end well.You don't stand a ghost of a chance. - YamiChan
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