Open 319: Jungle Republic - Day 5: Calamity *GAME OVER*

[DeityKabuto]

Vote DeityKabuto

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote;
Vote DonJosh

Policy lynches are retarded, they solve nothing, especially in this setup.

FoS whispersilk

Once again, Policy lynching is for scum.

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote
Vote whispersilk

They say voting all your suspects is a good way to gain info.

[DeityKabuto]

Now you're just plain offending my entire gender.

Vote: tyhess

Is this a serious vote?

Because tyhess' wasn't and I don't see what gender has to do with Mafia. o.o

[DeityKabuto]

VOTE: DeityKabuto This needs to happen. I'm completely serious.

I've improved since I've last played with you.

[DeityKabuto]

@Deity: Could you explain this for me? Voting yourself never helps anyone.

Also tyhess could you possibly get an avatar?

??????????

Do you know what RVS stands for...

Random Voting Stage

[DeityKabuto]

@Deity: Could you explain this for me? Voting yourself never helps anyone.

Also tyhess could you possibly get an avatar?

??????????

Do you know what RVS stands for...

Random Voting Stage

While I agree, do you really think a vote on yourself contributes any more to the town any more than not participating in it at all?

What kind of questioning is this?...

Stop implying that I'm a dumbass...

[DeityKabuto]

Quicky Reads

Scum:

Leaning-Scum:

Null-scum:

DonJosh (Policy lynching in this small setup is bad)
kondi2424

Null:

whispersilk
Ray Montano
CMPunk
Sky

Null-town:

tyhess (a bit of trolling and thing against women, minor town feeling)
BBmolla (pro town)

Leaning-town:

Town:

[DeityKabuto]

unvote, vote:Ray

What'd I miss

[DeityKabuto]

The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.

Interesting, let's see where being opportunistic takes me.

Unvote
Vote Ray Montano

[DeityKabuto]

What about this setup makes policy lynching worse?

If I were to die as a mislynch.

For the night the town would have 11 players, 1-2 kills happen overnight and the odds of hitting a town are probable.

That would leave a small number of Town left.

[DeityKabuto]

Eh... more setup speculation, this is my 2nd Jungle Republic game.

Anyways

Unvote

[DeityKabuto]

Mod, Vote Count, please.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm still wondering if I should even react to that.

[DeityKabuto]

Why did you Unvote?

For CMPunk's reasoning, a wagon that I had not understood.

[DeityKabuto]

Why did you Unvote?

For CMPunk's reasoning, a wagon that I had not understood.

Why'd you join?

And why are we discussing what the seer should do? It's a waste of time if you ask me.

I don't recall being apart of the Seer discussion and I don't feel comfortable with all these questions either.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm getting the feeling that Sky and Shadow are the same people because of the pace the question were asked, that is why.

[DeityKabuto]

Sooo you're accusing someone of cheating?

no

[DeityKabuto]

Then what are you doing? If you don't feel comfortable getting asked questions, get used to it. It's all part of the game.

Sure, here's this.

1. How many games have you played on MS?
2. On a scale of 1-10, how well would you consider yourself overall?
3. How do you feel about policy lynching?
4. Do you think that Ray will actually flip scum?
5. List 3 Reasons you think Ray is scum or not, provide examples.
6. How much have you actually contributed this game?
7. How much has anyone actually contributed this game?
8. Why do you think not answering questions is scummy?
9. Are you familiar with the current setup, have you played a Jungle Republic game before, if not, than do you have any questions?
10. Have you heard the name "DK" or "DeityKabuto" before entering this game?

Answer them, and then we can talk.

[DeityKabuto]

Oh, and here's 10 more. I hope you like answering questions, because we really aren't talking until then.

11. How do you feel about No-Lynching?
12. Why do you see everyone as a sexless non-entity, that is a false statement, ya' know?
13. Are you male or female?
14. How many games have you won as Town?
15. How good are you contributing to the Town?
16. How many people in this game, and Who do you actually know here or are familiar with?
17. Is English your first language?
18. Do you enjoy asking questions?
19. Do you enjoy answering questions?
20. How many questions have you answered so far and what is your capacity (limit) to how much you can actually answer?

I'm not including you in on the seer discussion. And here's another question : what questions are you not comfortable with?

None. I am just not comfortable with the rate I am being asked. o.o"

"Why do you expect him to answer questions but you won't DK?"

[DeityKabuto]

If I answer them DK, will you answer the questions asked of you?

I will answer the questions asked of you, and no one else.

I still want Sly to answer them, btw.

[DeityKabuto]

Sooo you're accusing someone of cheating?

no

If they're the same person using two different usernames in the same game then they're cheating. Why would you say that if you don't believe it?

No, it's the reaction I gauged at the rate and style of their posting.

But no, I do not suspect anyone of cheating.

[DeityKabuto]

Hmm... looking at you, I might as well answer my own question =)

Answering questions... looks fun!

[DeityKabuto]

"1. Do you frequently sling accusations that you don't believe in?"

Nope

[DeityKabuto]

Then why did you do it on like page 2?

Just because I do it once, that does not make it frequent.

[DeityKabuto]

Ok, Let me rephrase-
Why did you do it?

Why did I vote or unvote?

[DeityKabuto]

What?? Just answer the question

What do I do, that's what I want to know.

Why are you making things so difficult?

[DeityKabuto]

What?? Just answer the question

What do I do, that's what I want to know.

Why are you making things so difficult?

How about this, why did you vote? And why did you unvote?

I voted because Thor told me to and I know Thor.

I unvoted because even though Thor told me so, I didn't know what the wagon was all about.

[DeityKabuto]

What?? Just answer the question

What do I do, that's what I want to know.

Why are you making things so difficult?

How about this, why did you vote? And why did you unvote?

I voted because Thor told me to and I know Thor.

I unvoted because even though Thor told me so, I didn't know what the wagon was all about.

Don't you think there is a possibility Thor is scum?

Yup.

[DeityKabuto]

Woah, unless you want a mislynch go ahead and hammer me, if not than lets play this game normal now and stop trying to EZ wagon me. o.o. None of you can provide 3 legit reasons for even wanting me lynch so GTFO.

[DeityKabuto]

Oh, and if you think that was me raging, its really not and you dont not even want to go there so I suggest you back away.

[DeityKabuto]

1)DK, pick a stance and stick with it. They're either cheating or they aren't.
2)Your vote doesn't need to be on a different player every page.
3)Stop arbitrarily refusing to answer questions if your just going to answer different ones 5 minutes later.

I will coop with this.

[DeityKabuto]

I am sure he is scum. Appaeals to emotion and fear are noted. Someone hammer this scum

I AM REALLY NOT SCUM AND YOU CANT FUCKING SHIT ON ME WITHOUT A CASE OR NO EVIDENCE.

[DeityKabuto]

I AM FUCKING VT SO DONT FUCKING HAMMER UNLESS YOU REALLY WANT A MISLYNCH.

[DeityKabuto]

I really am willing to take the risk of DK being a VT. I still can't even fathom his kind of play with his 1000 posts. It doesn't add up.

I'm sorry about the question thing but I really want to play this game and help as town normally.

[DeityKabuto]

It's way to early for an lynches to happen and their are bound to be scum on my wagon wanting to EZ lynch most definitely.

[DeityKabuto]

in the last jungle republic game I played, I was a newbie, but now that I am in another way, I will be of some help and I am always improving my game play so give me a chance, I will not fail you and post my reads every so often

[DeityKabuto]

I'll answer Deity's 20 questions since he feels uncomfortable answering three questions...

Oh yes, he doesn't like answering the tough ones.

You haven't completed any games with me. '-'

[DeityKabuto]

I'll answer Deity's 20 questions since he feels uncomfortable answering three questions...

Oh yes, he doesn't like answering the tough ones.

You haven't completed any games with me. '-'

I know, but we're coming to the end of that game, and you were a complete ass. The only thing that saved you was a cop's claim.

I'm actually trying to help you here. So shut up, and if you are town, start acting like it or you're gonna get lynched.

okay sorry, but I really think that people are being opportunistic here trying to quick lynch me, the day just started

[DeityKabuto]

Oh, you haven't been posted much whispers, why now all of a sudden?

[DeityKabuto]

okay sorry, but I really think that people are being opportunistic here trying to quick lynch me, the day just started

Frankly, I don't blame them. You come off scummy.

Anyway, going to read now.

What was it that I did which was scummy?

The not answering questions and making them question me even more?

Also, some of the votes on me were from RVS, so I don't think those people are all that scum, unless they keep their vote on me for a long time.

[DeityKabuto]

I don't see how lynching me will benefit the Town :/

At least give me time to show that I am here to help.

[DeityKabuto]

Help, then. Who is scum and why?

One sec, I will get my legit reads for you by tomorrow.

[DeityKabuto]

Well my over all reason for voting you Deity is because you are a contradiction.
1) You joined the Ray wagon to opportunistic, now that you face death you say that you were too much of a quicklynch. I actually agree, I don't want to see you lynched just yet, but still, you're contradicting yourself.
2) I'm apparently Shadow. But we're not cheating.
3) You are uncomfortable being asked 3 questions, you completely shut down and tell me you won't talk to me until I answer 20 bogus ones. And then you say you like answering questions.
4) For the questions you do answer, you're vague and blame people for being confusing. Just answer the question.
5) You're raging way too hard this early in the game. I advise you do what your avatar is doing and calm down. I think you've achieved that at least.

I'll reinstate this in plain English:

Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you?

Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others?

Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you? It just is.

Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others? Why? Because all your doing is putting my in a bad position and dragging my out of my safety back so you can push and pull on me with your questions.

[DeityKabuto]

Vote count is messed up

Yea

[DeityKabuto]

UNVOTE

for sake of noonone hammering.

Okay. Since vote count was messed up, your first reaction if he really was at L-1 would be to play it safe and unvote, does this mean you don't find him scummy, what was the purpose of your vote on the wagon if you weren't ready to lynch?

[DeityKabuto]

We are two real life days in. We are placing pressure on other players. Not a time for anyone to be a Dumba$$ and lynch, no matter how scummy i think someone is

I understand, just summarizing.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm not advocating a DK lynch right now, but I've got to say if someone had hammered I wouldn't have been too upset to see DK leave. I'm not a fan of players who throw pity parties for themselves when they're on the chopping block. I would, however, have been upset the day ended so early. So next time anyone's on the chopping block (myself included) it'd be awesome to have real discussions instead of "DON'T FUCKING HAMMER ME IF YOU WANT A MISLYNCH". Like...really...

What do you want me to say?

YOU GUYS WERE TRYING TO GET ME LYNCHED AND MAKKE THE TOWN LOSE.

[DeityKabuto]

Didn't have internet all of yesterday, now I'm back.

[DeityKabuto]

Starting on my wall of rants, reads, and ISO(s).

[DeityKabuto]

DeityKabuto's Content V.1.0

Setup:

I will simply do a complete ISO on every player in this game, and compare it to interactions with other players they have had with their actions, votes, etc. With that data combined, I will form an analysis of my reads via the player themself.

Rankings:

[/color]{Town-aligned, Leaning-town, Null-town, Null-read, Null-scum, Leaning-scum, Scum-aligned}

Ratings:

I will also rate you on a scale of 1-10 on your performance via the game, how much content you're giving and how much you are actually helping the town.

Jungle Republic Background Knowledge:

This is my second Jungle Republic game, I've played another one before >> Here << back then in April, I was a major Newbie so I was really sucky. The setup was the same and everything. I didn't pile up that many votes early on, but people did suspect me. I was a Vanilla Town, and I made it to the end. What you have to keep in mind is that the Mafia will also lie and say their are Town and try and get you to mislynch, etc. SO if you actually are a Vanilla Town, it's best if you form your own reads, opinions, etc early on because you don't know who's mafia lying, etc! Well that's all, moving on to ISO(s)...

ISO Sector

kondi2424

Rating:

0.1/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-read

Notes:

1. I might have played with you.
2. You have been pretty inactive so far. (

@MOD: I request a prod on kondi2424)
3. Your vote on me is still from RVS, not much else to say about you.

ISO:

Post #22... At least give reasoning to a policy lynch for DK.

TheFool

Rating:

3/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar, you do not post much.

ISO:

Post #60... Here you say and I quote "Hey everyone, interesting game so far!" yet your activity doesn't show it. Scum flying under the radar, maybe? To live and go by unnoticed.

The Ray wagon has virtue beyond Thor's evidence.
VOTE: Ray Montano

Later on you leave that wagon and hop on mine, opportunistic scum, caught here, especially with you flying under the radar and all.

This is stupid. DK, pick a stance and stick with it. They're either cheating or they aren't. Your vote doesn't need to be on a different player every page. Stop arbitrarily refusing to answer questions if your just going to answer different ones 5 minutes later.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DeityKabuto

Here you say to pick a stance and stick with it, weren't you so sure about your vote on Ray Montano?

Post #164... Help? What've you done this game so far that helps the town, please tell me?...

Sky

Rating:

5/10 (some of your posts against me are a bit understandable but serious your activity and lack of content sucks, so far you aren't an asset to the town and your vote on me is pretty much opportunistic, quick lynch town sort of thing. There are many scum in this game for the town to rid of and if you lynch me the town will be at odds even quicker)

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You do not post that much, flying under the radar.
3. Your center of attention revolves around DK, bad if you are serious about winning as Town.

ISO:

Post #30... Here you claim to have prior experience with Shadow, and CMPunk (referring to you calling CM a punk ass, assuming you might know him)

Post #94... You started the whole question trauma thing with me and you are currently on my wagon.

Oh and Tell me, how is someone like you with 10 posts, no case so certain that I am scum? You are flying under the radar more, it's only common for me to point it out and you haven't posted any content or contributed. You said my Quicky Reads were useless, but what Reads have you done? 0. Exactly, kthx. At least, I try unlike you and your punk ass.

Post #100... Your questions are weak, it's hard to explain but answering them won't really get us anywhere except for tunneling back and forth, it's tiring, that's why I avoided.

Unvote: CMPunk
Vote: DeityKabuto

Both of your Votes are useless, without a case.

Well my over all reason for voting you Deity is because you are a contradiction.
1) You joined the Ray wagon to opportunistic, now that you face death you say that you were too much of a quicklynch. I actually agree, I don't want to see you lynched just yet, but still, you're contradicting yourself.
2) I'm apparently Shadow. But we're not cheating.
3) You are uncomfortable being asked 3 questions, you completely shut down and tell me you won't talk to me until I answer 20 bogus ones. And then you say you like answering questions.
4) For the questions you do answer, you're vague and blame people for being confusing. Just answer the question.
5) You're raging way too hard this early in the game. I advise you do what your avatar is doing and calm down. I think you've achieved that at least.

I'll reinstate this in plain English:

Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you?

Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others?

1. Your vote on me isn't opportunistic?
2. That is blind reasoning, it has less to do with who's scum.
3. More blind reasoning.
4. More blind reasoning.
5.

I RAGE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE QUICK LYNCHING SO THE TOWN WILL LOSE, FUCKING IDIOTS EVERYONE IN THIS GAME IS FUCKING IGNORANT.

BBmolla

Rating:

7/10

Alignment-Read:

Leaning-town

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of, I'm actually taking a liking to your style.
3. You tend to focus on DK more than any other player which is a bit of a trend in your Pro-town pattern.

ISO:

Post #26... Slight Pro-town feeling here..

Post #31... More Pro-town, my Self-voting caught the actual Pro town players in this game.

Post #125... Less of blind questioning...

Post #128... Yes, of course.

Post #134... Poor logic, I suggest you Unvote now.

Post #210... If I was scum, what would be your reasoning? Do you have strong evidence or logic, etc?

CMPunk

Rating:

2/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum (Just like a few others, you don't contribution much and you take the opportunistic ride onto my wagon)

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar with little contribution.

ISO:

Post #28... This.

Post #86... Weak Reasoning. Worthy of a vote? Sure. Worthy of a lynch? Not likely.

FightingShadow

Rating:

4/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-town (You seem a bit pro-town but post more, please)

Notes:

1. I might have played a game with you, but do not recall.
2. You are flying under the radar like a few others, post more, please. This is an 8 post ISO on you lmaox.

ISO:

Post #27... Here you announce that you are playing under an alternate account so you won't reveal your Meta.

Also, everyone should read the setup - the Mafia cannot kill. While they are a threat, the Werewolves are the only ones killing us at night.

Quoted so everyone will stay aware.

whispersilk

Rating:

5/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-town

Notes:

1. I am currently in an Ongoing game with you, you are a skilled Newbie.
2. I want you to post more, seriously. If you are going to be inactive like this you could be Mafia or Werewolf flying under the radar to survive, you have potential~

ISO:

Post #9... Self voting is not bad DK. I helped win Open 307 by Self voting and I survived as Town too.

Guys, DK is rage posting like he did at me when I called him out for avoiding my question for three pages in our other game. He made similar pleas to avoid a mislynch. Turns out he was town. Not saying he isn't scum or wolf, just saying his play here is almost a mirror of his rage and dodgy behaviour in my other game. He posts like an idiot, and is hard to understand, but I think he should be given a chance to explain himself and clear things up.

So no hammer yet, plzy.

Gonna try and catch up with the other 4 pages I've missed.

I usually rage when I actually am Town and people are lynching me for bad behaviors so EZ without a probable case or anything of that sort.

More than 75% of those on my wagon only provided 1-2 lines of explanation, may not even be full sentences.

I knew I should have subbed out of this game.

/sigh

Cheer up

DonJosh

Rating:

1/10 (inactive, flying under radar)

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I think I've been in a game with you.
2. Another inactive, geez.

ISO:

Post #145...

I AM VANILLA TOWN DON JOSH, NOW START POSTING STUFF THAT IS CONSISTENT AND WORTH THE MENTION, ONLY WEREWOLF WANT TO KNOW CLAIMS SO THEY'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO TO KILL.

tyhess

Rating:

5/10

Alignment-Read:

Null

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.

ISO:

Post #12... trololol...

Post #53... Unexplained vote.

Ray Montano

Rating:

8/10

Alignment-Read:

Leaning-town

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You sir are Pro-town.

ISO:

Post #67... Pro-town here... nice

Post #126... lol

I'm not advocating a DK lynch right now, but I've got to say if someone had hammered I wouldn't have been too upset to see DK leave. I'm not a fan of players who throw pity parties for themselves when they're on the chopping block. I would, however, have been upset the day ended so early. So next time anyone's on the chopping block (myself included) it'd be awesome to have real discussions instead of "DON'T FUCKING HAMMER ME IF YOU WANT A MISLYNCH". Like...really...

Hehe, I would like you to post your reads after this, about Thor being scum and my potential scum listings.

"I don't care. Ask questions, argue it out, anything but whining about being lynched."

I understand.

Who says I've ever been good at scumhunting? Why are you playing this game based off so much supposed meta?

Noone, because you haven't.

Thor665

Rating:

6.5/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I have played games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of.

ISO:

Post #52... Obv... scum. No time for a Quick lynch, reasoning is poor.

The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.

You can't be serious.

[quote="Wooosh - no quick lynch? ::sadface::

Okay, let's lay out some reactions to that wagon.

Tyhess is probably town.
The Fool never answered the 'deeper' reasons to vote Ray, did he? He should really answer that - like - na0w!
Fighting Shadows is probably town.
DK is...DK. I could get behind a policy lynch there but I think we could probably do better - Werewolves should totally kill him though, he gets crazy effective at scumhunting starting Day 3.
Could someone explain to me why it was scummy that DK called two players as having a similar playstyle? That (and question derpiness) seems to be the case on him. I'm down with the derpiness but the other thing...whuh? Explain pl0x, I'm ready to sheep onto that in a second once I know why it's scummy.

Ray should still be lynched, unless someone can quote me a post where he is actually scumhunting. He's an experienced player and he doesn't seem to know how to scumhunt - that doesn't worry anyone else? It worries the everlovin' frell out of me.[/quote]

Taking note of this, if Werewolves do kill me than your scum. Either way, I think you are a bit scummy, that serious vote on Ray had no case whatsoever and you mentioned plans for a quick lynch. And right now if you hammer me, than your scum. Except unlike other players, you are actually using your brains, pro-town, I wouldn't be for your lynch today.

ISO(S) Complete...

Major Wagon Analysis

Red = scum
Black = null
Blue = town

July 29th:
DeityKabuto (3/7) -

DonJosh

, kondi2424,

CMPunk

Ray Montano (4/7) -

Thor665

,

tyhess

, TheFool, FightingShadow

July 31st:
DeityKabuto (6/7) -

DonJosh

, kondi2424,

CMPunk

, Sky, BBmolla, TheFool
CMPunk (1/7) - FightingShadow <- Pro town vote, at least he gave legit reasons
Ray Montano (1/7) - Thor665 <- Meh, if Thor is scum Ray is town. If Ray is scum, Thor is town. There.

Potential Scum Teams:

Possible 1:

Werewolfs: (DonJosh, tyhess)
Mafia: (Thor665, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??

For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CMPunk for pushing on my lynch with weak reasoning, only benefits Mafia so they will see the flip and have an idea of what to do next.

Possible 2:

Werewolfs: (DonJosh, kondi2424)
Mafia: (Ray Montano, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??

Explanation: For Werewolf. DonJosh, asking to claim to limit suspects for a Nkill and kondi wanting a DK Policy lynch to have two Scum kills over D1 to D2.

For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CM, save reasons above.

...Analyzing

Most Probable lynches for today:

Thor665, Ray Montano, DonJosh, DeityKabuto (hopefully not, this was just be an innocent town lynch, you have my word, I will not say anything else and just focus on catching scum for the remainder of the day), CMPunk

I can't decide who to vote Ray Montano or Thor so

Vote CMPunk

RayMontano hasn't voted Thor for attacking him, which makes me want to vote him and he is in a bad position right now.

Thor's earlier reasoning for voting Ray weren't that strong, but he stuck with his reads and is pushing for his lynch, that is real scummy, a scum championing so hard for a town's lynch, makes me want to vote Thor. But I can't decide, so I will start CM's wagon, kind of a placeholder vote since I also suspect CMPunk to be either werewolf or Mafia.

Ray isn't in the best position, and hasn't done anything

Okay, to clear up the questioning thing, here you go. The thing about questions and humans is a broad statement. A question is asked when someone is curious. Depending on the question asks will determine whether you get an answer or not. There are no such thing as "wrong" questions but you may not be asking the right ones therefore the person you ask may refuse to answer. The right questions lead to a deeper understanding and will help you find what you're looking for. When asking a question, always think of the best way to ask the person, so you will get the best response. That is all.

Vote If you disagree with my scum reads, do not simply say you DISAGREE or I will find you scummy and put you on blast. Provide solid reasons for disagreeing or else you are trying to defend the victim and therefore a scumbuddy has been caught.

[DeityKabuto]

#Edit By WAY OF DOUBLE POST, Edited to fix the Quotes

DeityKabuto's Content V.1.0

Setup:

I will simply do a complete ISO on every player in this game, and compare it to interactions with other players they have had with their actions, votes, etc. With that data combined, I will form an analysis of my reads via the player themself.

Rankings:

[/color]{Town-aligned, Leaning-town, Null-town, Null-read, Null-scum, Leaning-scum, Scum-aligned}

Ratings:

I will also rate you on a scale of 1-10 on your performance via the game, how much content you're giving and how much you are actually helping the town.

Jungle Republic Background Knowledge:

This is my second Jungle Republic game, I've played another one before >> Here << back then in April, I was a major Newbie so I was really sucky. The setup was the same and everything. I didn't pile up that many votes early on, but people did suspect me. I was a Vanilla Town, and I made it to the end. What you have to keep in mind is that the Mafia will also lie and say their are Town and try and get you to mislynch, etc. SO if you actually are a Vanilla Town, it's best if you form your own reads, opinions, etc early on because you don't know who's mafia lying, etc! Well that's all, moving on to ISO(s)...

ISO Sector

kondi2424

Rating:

0.1/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-read

Notes:

1. I might have played with you.
2. You have been pretty inactive so far. (

@MOD: I request a prod on kondi2424)
3. Your vote on me is still from RVS, not much else to say about you.

ISO:

Post #22... At least give reasoning to a policy lynch for DK.

TheFool

Rating:

3/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar, you do not post much.

ISO:

Post #60... Here you say and I quote "Hey everyone, interesting game so far!" yet your activity doesn't show it. Scum flying under the radar, maybe? To live and go by unnoticed.

The Ray wagon has virtue beyond Thor's evidence.
VOTE: Ray Montano

Later on you leave that wagon and hop on mine, opportunistic scum, caught here, especially with you flying under the radar and all.

This is stupid. DK, pick a stance and stick with it. They're either cheating or they aren't. Your vote doesn't need to be on a different player every page. Stop arbitrarily refusing to answer questions if your just going to answer different ones 5 minutes later.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DeityKabuto

Here you say to pick a stance and stick with it, weren't you so sure about your vote on Ray Montano?

Post #164... Help? What've you done this game so far that helps the town, please tell me?...

Sky

Rating:

5/10 (some of your posts against me are a bit understandable but serious your activity and lack of content sucks, so far you aren't an asset to the town and your vote on me is pretty much opportunistic, quick lynch town sort of thing. There are many scum in this game for the town to rid of and if you lynch me the town will be at odds even quicker)

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You do not post that much, flying under the radar.
3. Your center of attention revolves around DK, bad if you are serious about winning as Town.

ISO:

Post #30... Here you claim to have prior experience with Shadow, and CMPunk (referring to you calling CM a punk ass, assuming you might know him)

Post #94... You started the whole question trauma thing with me and you are currently on my wagon.

Oh and Tell me, how is someone like you with 10 posts, no case so certain that I am scum? You are flying under the radar more, it's only common for me to point it out and you haven't posted any content or contributed. You said my Quicky Reads were useless, but what Reads have you done? 0. Exactly, kthx. At least, I try unlike you and your punk ass.

Post #100... Your questions are weak, it's hard to explain but answering them won't really get us anywhere except for tunneling back and forth, it's tiring, that's why I avoided.

Unvote: CMPunk
Vote: DeityKabuto

Both of your Votes are useless, without a case.

Well my over all reason for voting you Deity is because you are a contradiction.
1) You joined the Ray wagon to opportunistic, now that you face death you say that you were too much of a quicklynch. I actually agree, I don't want to see you lynched just yet, but still, you're contradicting yourself.
2) I'm apparently Shadow. But we're not cheating.
3) You are uncomfortable being asked 3 questions, you completely shut down and tell me you won't talk to me until I answer 20 bogus ones. And then you say you like answering questions.
4) For the questions you do answer, you're vague and blame people for being confusing. Just answer the question.
5) You're raging way too hard this early in the game. I advise you do what your avatar is doing and calm down. I think you've achieved that at least.

I'll reinstate this in plain English:

Why is the pace and similarity of Shadow and my question's unsettling for you?

Why don't you like answering my questions but like answering others?

1. Your vote on me isn't opportunistic?
2. That is blind reasoning, it has less to do with who's scum.
3. More blind reasoning.
4. More blind reasoning.
5.

I RAGE BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE QUICK LYNCHING SO THE TOWN WILL LOSE, FUCKING IDIOTS EVERYONE IN THIS GAME IS FUCKING IGNORANT.

BBmolla

Rating:

7/10

Alignment-Read:

Leaning-town

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of, I'm actually taking a liking to your style.
3. You tend to focus on DK more than any other player which is a bit of a trend in your Pro-town pattern.

ISO:

Post #26... Slight Pro-town feeling here..

Post #31... More Pro-town, my Self-voting caught the actual Pro town players in this game.

Post #125... Less of blind questioning...

Post #128... Yes, of course.

Post #134... Poor logic, I suggest you Unvote now.

Post #210... If I was scum, what would be your reasoning? Do you have strong evidence or logic, etc?

CMPunk

Rating:

2/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum (Just like a few others, you don't contribution much and you take the opportunistic ride onto my wagon)

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You are flying under the radar with little contribution.

ISO:

Post #28... This.

Post #86... Weak Reasoning. Worthy of a vote? Sure. Worthy of a lynch? Not likely.

FightingShadow

Rating:

4/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-town (You seem a bit pro-town but post more, please)

Notes:

1. I might have played a game with you, but do not recall.
2. You are flying under the radar like a few others, post more, please. This is an 8 post ISO on you lmaox.

ISO:

Post #27... Here you announce that you are playing under an alternate account so you won't reveal your Meta.

Also, everyone should read the setup - the Mafia cannot kill. While they are a threat, the Werewolves are the only ones killing us at night.

Quoted so everyone will stay aware.

whispersilk

Rating:

5/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-town

Notes:

1. I am currently in an Ongoing game with you, you are a skilled Newbie.
2. I want you to post more, seriously. If you are going to be inactive like this you could be Mafia or Werewolf flying under the radar to survive, you have potential~

ISO:

Post #9... Self voting is not bad DK. I helped win Open 307 by Self voting and I survived as Town too.

Guys, DK is rage posting like he did at me when I called him out for avoiding my question for three pages in our other game. He made similar pleas to avoid a mislynch. Turns out he was town. Not saying he isn't scum or wolf, just saying his play here is almost a mirror of his rage and dodgy behaviour in my other game. He posts like an idiot, and is hard to understand, but I think he should be given a chance to explain himself and clear things up.

So no hammer yet, plzy.

Gonna try and catch up with the other 4 pages I've missed.

I usually rage when I actually am Town and people are lynching me for bad behaviors so EZ without a probable case or anything of that sort.

More than 75% of those on my wagon only provided 1-2 lines of explanation, may not even be full sentences.

I knew I should have subbed out of this game.

/sigh

Cheer up

DonJosh

Rating:

1/10 (inactive, flying under radar)

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I think I've been in a game with you.
2. Another inactive, geez.

ISO:

Post #145...

I AM VANILLA TOWN DON JOSH, NOW START POSTING STUFF THAT IS CONSISTENT AND WORTH THE MENTION, ONLY WEREWOLF WANT TO KNOW CLAIMS SO THEY'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF WHO TO KILL.

tyhess

Rating:

5/10

Alignment-Read:

Null

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.

ISO:

Post #12... trololol...

Post #53... Unexplained vote.

Ray Montano

Rating:

8/10

Alignment-Read:

Leaning-town

Notes:

1. I do not remember playing any games with you.
2. You sir are Pro-town.

ISO:

Post #67... Pro-town here... nice

Post #126... lol

I'm not advocating a DK lynch right now, but I've got to say if someone had hammered I wouldn't have been too upset to see DK leave. I'm not a fan of players who throw pity parties for themselves when they're on the chopping block. I would, however, have been upset the day ended so early. So next time anyone's on the chopping block (myself included) it'd be awesome to have real discussions instead of "DON'T FUCKING HAMMER ME IF YOU WANT A MISLYNCH". Like...really...

Hehe, I would like you to post your reads after this, about Thor being scum and my potential scum listings.

"I don't care. Ask questions, argue it out, anything but whining about being lynched."

I understand.

Who says I've ever been good at scumhunting? Why are you playing this game based off so much supposed meta?

Noone, because you haven't.

Thor665

Rating:

6.5/10

Alignment-Read:

Null-scum

Notes:

1. I have played games with you.
2. Pro-town play noted of.

ISO:

Post #52... Obv... scum. No time for a Quick lynch, reasoning is poor.

The obvious wagon of win I have - you should join it.
The evidence is in my post above.

You can't be serious.

- no quick lynch? ::sadface::

Okay, let's lay out some reactions to that wagon.

Tyhess is probably town.
The Fool never answered the 'deeper' reasons to vote Ray, did he? He should really answer that - like - na0w!
Fighting Shadows is probably town.
DK is...DK. I could get behind a policy lynch there but I think we could probably do better - Werewolves should totally kill him though, he gets crazy effective at scumhunting starting Day 3.
Could someone explain to me why it was scummy that DK called two players as having a similar playstyle? That (and question derpiness) seems to be the case on him. I'm down with the derpiness but the other thing...whuh? Explain pl0x, I'm ready to sheep onto that in a second once I know why it's scummy.

Ray should still be lynched, unless someone can quote me a post where he is actually scumhunting. He's an experienced player and he doesn't seem to know how to scumhunt - that doesn't worry anyone else? It worries the everlovin' frell out of me.

Taking note of this, if Werewolves do kill me than your scum. Either way, I think you are a bit scummy, that serious vote on Ray had no case whatsoever and you mentioned plans for a quick lynch. And right now if you hammer me, than your scum. Except unlike other players, you are actually using your brains, pro-town, I wouldn't be for your lynch today.

ISO(S) Complete...

Major Wagon Analysis

Red = scum
Black = null
Blue = town

July 29th:
DeityKabuto (3/7) -

DonJosh

, kondi2424,

CMPunk

Ray Montano (4/7) -

Thor665

,

tyhess

, TheFool, FightingShadow

July 31st:
DeityKabuto (6/7) -

DonJosh

, kondi2424,

CMPunk

, Sky, BBmolla, TheFool
CMPunk (1/7) - FightingShadow <- Pro town vote, at least he gave legit reasons
Ray Montano (1/7) - Thor665 <- Meh, if Thor is scum Ray is town. If Ray is scum, Thor is town. There.

Potential Scum Teams:

Possible 1:

Werewolfs: (DonJosh, tyhess)
Mafia: (Thor665, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??

For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CMPunk for pushing on my lynch with weak reasoning, only benefits Mafia so they will see the flip and have an idea of what to do next.

Possible 2:

Werewolfs: (DonJosh, kondi2424)
Mafia: (Ray Montano, whispersilk, CMPunk)
Seer: ??

Explanation: For Werewolf. DonJosh, asking to claim to limit suspects for a Nkill and kondi wanting a DK Policy lynch to have two Scum kills over D1 to D2.

For Mafia. Thor and Ray Montano cannot be Mafia together. I can see whispers as Mafia for her going about unnoticed. CM, save reasons above.

...Analyzing

Most Probable lynches for today:

Thor665, Ray Montano, DonJosh, DeityKabuto (hopefully not, this was just be an innocent town lynch, you have my word, I will not say anything else and just focus on catching scum for the remainder of the day), CMPunk

I can't decide who to vote Ray Montano or Thor so

Vote CMPunk

RayMontano hasn't voted Thor for attacking him, which makes me want to vote him and he is in a bad position right now.

Thor's earlier reasoning for voting Ray weren't that strong, but he stuck with his reads and is pushing for his lynch, that is real scummy, a scum championing so hard for a town's lynch, makes me want to vote Thor. But I can't decide, so I will start CM's wagon, kind of a placeholder vote since I also suspect CMPunk to be either werewolf or Mafia.

Ray isn't in the best position, and hasn't done anything

Okay, to clear up the questioning thing, here you go. The thing about questions and humans is a broad statement. A question is asked when someone is curious. Depending on the question asks will determine whether you get an answer or not. There are no such thing as "wrong" questions but you may not be asking the right ones therefore the person you ask may refuse to answer. The right questions lead to a deeper understanding and will help you find what you're looking for. When asking a question, always think of the best way to ask the person, so you will get the best response. That is all.

Vote If you disagree with my scum reads, do not simply say you DISAGREE or I will find you scummy and put you on blast. Provide solid reasons for disagreeing or else you are trying to defend the victim and therefore a scumbuddy has been caught.

[DeityKabuto]

For me, it's because it seems like he's trying too hard to contribute or something. Like he has these crazy accusations of me cheating but doesn't back it up. He compares us to eachother for reasons other than his own intuition which doesn't cut it for me.

So, your accusation is that he's scum who decided to make up a case based on nothing, and hope town would buy into it and leave him alone/sheep him to get you lynched?

We have established he's not a great player - good job.
Why does this make him scum? Bad players are town in the normal statistical amounts that good players are last I checked.

What I mean is, it seems like he's trying too hard to contribute. Like the whole quicky reads a few hours into the games with nothing to go off of besides pure random votes.

I have more to respond to, but I gotta go for now.

Respond to my ISO on you, goddammit.

[DeityKabuto]

Thor what do you think of my theory on you and Ray not being Mafia together, but I am certain one of them is Mafia.

[DeityKabuto]

Thor what do you think of my theory on you and Ray not being Mafia together, but I am certain one of them is Mafia.

I would say the basic thesis - we are not scum together - makes a lot of sense as I'm certainly being fairly aggressive if this is just a bussing action.

The further conclusion - one of you is scum, the other is town - has no relevant basis. We could easily be town/town if my read is wrong, and I fail to see any evidence or logic that drew you to that, so I suspect it's your usual gut response via no evidence style case.

Why do you ask?

Also - vote Ray, 50% chance he's scum in your own words.

Spoken like a true IC.

Now, I ask that people start unvoting me, I contributed more than anyone this game.

[DeityKabuto]

Yea I'm tired of these lazy bastard fly under the radar type of people joining games, I'm like "GTFO outta here already!". z.z

[DeityKabuto]

Read Post #214

Many of the scum are opportunistic on my wagon.

[DeityKabuto]

I actually am Town this game, and most of the people on my wagon didn't provide legit reasons, 1-2 lines and some are flying under the radar, real shit going on down here.

[DeityKabuto]

And everyone is ignoring Post #214

MY SUPER MEGA AWESOME READS

come man like wtf????

[DeityKabuto]

But less about DK, and more about you.

I want your reads whispers, you had to catchup right?

[DeityKabuto]

Whispers do you feel me ?

No, I don't think you are feeling me right now.

It's like this.

White Power.



The Whites are the inactives with 1-2 lines of reasoning who place votes on me, I'm the black guy, do you see now?

[DeityKabuto]

I get you. You're being persecuted for no other reason than you play in a weird way, and these guys don't understand that yet.

This middle egg is sooooo scummy looking.

NO! The white ones are the scum! I'm telling you!

[DeityKabuto]

Yep. And I Photoshop'd that in 5 minutes, made it special since there are 2 werewolfs and 3 Mafioso.

[DeityKabuto]

BBmolla is active lurking, respond to Post #214 please.

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote
Vote Ray

Thor you are serious about Ray being scum?

Also since I voted Ray, will be SUPER MEGA AWESOME READS get more attention?

[DeityKabuto]

Understanding the rationale behind placing and moving votes can go a long way towards understanding that person's motives and alignment. Dodging questions about said rationale is therefore suspect.

Wagon happen makes people think your vote is useless since your bound to hop on a different one later on, it's less to do with me scum and more to do with being a dumbass, excuse me if I'd "Wagon hopped" early in the game, etc.

As far as opportunism and flying under the radar, I've given reasons for all two of my votes. Is there anything you'd like me to elaborate on?

If anything comes up, I'll specify.

[DeityKabuto]

the reason I was saying about Rey not voting, was when I was asked about him I looked at him in ISO and saw no vote, so noted it. Yes, others have said it too. But that you find a lot in Mafia I would gusss if some are thinking the same as others.

with-holding vote until i see a votecount.

I mentioned Ray not voting in my Analysis.

[DeityKabuto]

@DK I really don't have much to respond to concerning your wall of content (or whatever) but I do find it interesting that you gave me a high "rating" (which I'm not really sure was a necessary system) and found me "leaning-town" and "pro-town" and yet are voting me over Thor who you gave a lower rating, found "leaning-scum" and "obv scum". I find it odd that you're bending to the will of whoever shouts the loudest. That to me does not seem like play of a strong town player. If you're not scum, which I don't really think you are, you are certainly a weak town player. And that kind of sucks.

I am voting you for never placing a vote on Thor after all the interactions.

[DeityKabuto]

I am voting you for never placing a vote on Thor after all the interactions.

To be honest that's a really stupid reason for voting me. I don't read Thor as scum, therefore I'm not voting him. If I read Thor as scum then I would be voting him. It may be your play to OMGUS players who suspect you but its not mine.

@Thor You have no case to argue because your case is not correct. Yeah I do think you're a terrible player, but as of right now I don't think you're scum. Terrible player =/= scum. Hence why I never voted for DK. And this:

At least you admit you haven't scumhunted at all thus far

Is not true.

How are you gonna say I'm terrible?

Are you new to MS or something or are you an Alt?

[DeityKabuto]

Thor you seem 100% sure he will flip scum on D1??? =/

That is actually suspicious in a way.

[DeityKabuto]

Responding to prod, will post after supper

It's been 1 hour and 5 minutes, has super happened yet?

[DeityKabuto]

As much as I agree with you now, my vote stays on TheFool.

FoS: RayM
HoS: CMPunk

Can I get an explanation of the term "

HoS

" please?

You think Ray's interactions with me look town in any way? Here, let me offer one of my patented conversation summary posts, and you can let me know where you think I go wrong;

Thor: Ray, home dawg! I see no(0) scumhuntez from U, dat scummy!
Ray: Nah, silly boy, you just don't know my meta, so your meta case is stupid.
Thor: Yo, could ya sh0w me a scumz game of Urz so I canz learn ur meta?
Ray: Nah, you're really stupid and so is this case, everyone should ignore it.
Thor: I iz pretty sur dat makes U more scumz, peoplez should vote you for awesome justice and stuff.
Ray: Nope, you're a terrible player.
Thor: Den why not explain how mah case iz actually bad?
Ray: It's too terrible to bother, but maybe I'll do a bit of scumhunting now.
Thor: So...wait, dog, you just agreed U weren'tz doing anE scumhuntigz!
Ray: No I didn't, I scumhunt constantly, just read my ISO.
Thor: I did, dere be no scumhuntigz!
Ray: That's because you're too stupid to see the obvious and constant scumhunting I'm doing.
Thor: Quote 1 example of scumhuntingz an I'll unvote U!
Ray: My gawd, you are a terrible player, how can anyone listen to you. You know who's scummy? Players who are listening to you. (lists those players) but not you, you're town.
Thor: If I'mma town just quote anything, I don't think U canz becauze it don't existingz!
Ray: Trolololol, nope, not doing anything to help obv. town stop tunneling me. I'm an awesome and pro town player, it's as obvious as my constant scumhunting.

Feel free to vaguely point out when he acts town. I don't see it.

I would also like to see Ray's response to this post to see if he himself regards it as legit.

[DeityKabuto]

@RayM and FS:
What are your guys thoughts on TheFool? Cuz my reads on CMPunk and TheFool are very similar.

Null-scum

[DeityKabuto]

I don't have the experience that most you have and I don't have yet have the skills to pick up on a lot of scum tells. All I have is my gut feeling, and it's worked fairly well for me in the only other game where I was town.

Not sure how helpful or relevant they will be, but here are my feelings so far:

kondi2424

No read on this player at all.

TheFool

anti-town - Something about this guy is off.

Sky

anti-town - This guy too.

DeityKabuto

town - As I've already said, I'm currently in a newbie game with DK. We are both town, and DK is behaving exactly the same way in this game. I also don't think he is smart enough to play an anti-town role. I think his game play would be completely different, I think he would try too hard, and I believe I would pick up on it.

BBmolla

neutral - No comment.

CMPunk

neutral/anti-town - No comment.

FightingShadow

town - Gut feeling.

DonJosh

neutral - No comment.

tyhess

anti-town - Gut feeling.

Ray Montano

neutral - No comment.

Thor665

neutral - No comment.

Nothing compared to my reads.

>> Explaining your reads helps, if you simply say town, scum etc. It says nothing. Anyone can do that. I can put your scum list, and evidently you'd ask for an explanation.

As I've already said, I'm currently in a newbie game with DK. We are both town, and DK is behaving exactly the same way in this game. I also don't think he is smart enough to play an anti-town role. I think his game play would be completely different, I think he would try too hard, and I believe I would pick up on it.

Hehe. Well Aren't I chaffed now =]

[DeityKabuto]

Yes, your reads are just excellent.

It's hard for me to spell out why I feel the way I do about everyone. A lot of the time it's just something to do with how they have said something, or how they appear to be contributing, but just poke their noses into other peoples debates, and don't really start any of their own. See: TheFool and CMPunk. I guess there are a few traditional thoughts about Mafia that I don't necessarily believe. One being that scum don't start wagons. I'd like to believe Thor is a good scum hunter, and I'm sure he is one when playing a town role, but I don't exclude him from being anti-town in this game just because he's aggressive. I think he is experienced, and probably plays both sides pretty well.

I get the same feeling from both tyhess and Sky. Something about them doesn't sit right with me.

I'll try to elaborate on my feelings as I am able to define them better.

You just explained my thought process when I look over games.

[DeityKabuto]

How come you're so shit at this game then?

Actions >> Words

[DeityKabuto]

How come you're so shit at this game then?

Maybe we are the same =]

[DeityKabuto]

Wilderness, blindfaeth and The Tick - Read Post #214 to catchup.

Whispers, start posting stuff of substance, some people already suspect you of fence-sitting.

[DeityKabuto]

Welcome back, I hate subs the most in any game.

Subs always start as null.

>___>

Anyway, I would like you to post your 'catchup reads' in your next post.

[DeityKabuto]

Lol I like the 'make my own decisions' part. Sounds pretty badass.

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote
Vote TheFool

Whispers has more of a case than Thor atm, and Fool was on my suspects list already.

[DeityKabuto]

lol this whole DK saying that shadow and sky were cheating thing is way ridiculous. There are a couple players on my other forum that I confuse all the time and that's what I read into it. Their screenames are Typhoony and Tranquility and they both act really similarly. In my mind they are the same person XD They get really offended when I tell them that... Is that what you meant DK, or am I barking up the wrong tree? Because thats how I understood your original comment.

Ignore that. It is of no substance to the game whatsoever.

[DeityKabuto]

Wooosh - no quick lynch? ::sadface::

Okay, let's lay out some reactions to that wagon.

Tyhess is probably town.
The Fool never answered the 'deeper' reasons to vote Ray, did he? He should really answer that - like - na0w!
Fighting Shadows is probably town.
DK is...DK. I could get behind a policy lynch there but I think we could probably do better - Werewolves should totally kill him though, he gets crazy effective at scumhunting starting Day 3.
Could someone explain to me why it was scummy that DK called two players as having a similar playstyle? That (and question derpiness) seems to be the case on him. I'm down with the derpiness but the other thing...whuh? Explain pl0x, I'm ready to sheep onto that in a second once I know why it's scummy.

Ray should still be lynched, unless someone can quote me a post where he is actually scumhunting. He's an experienced player and he doesn't seem to know how to scumhunt - that doesn't worry anyone else? It worries the everlovin' frell out of me.

PING PING PING

Tyhess is probably town???
Werewolves should kill someone who gets good at scumhunting???
I already had you marked down as leaning scum and you took a giant leap into vote territory

votes Thor

Yah, I also find Thor quite suspicious, especially if Ray is Town. It wouldn't be bad to champion for his lynch today.

[DeityKabuto]

I don't want to seem like voting hopping, but

Unvote; Vote Thor

Whispers get on his wagon, it doesn't seem like the guy you're voting will be lynched, I hope he is replaced out seemingly since he is inactive, although I still do hold my suspicious via TheFool.

Thor seems like the best lynch for today, and I will do everything in my case to champion for it.

[DeityKabuto]

I agree with Ray that your vote on him over Thor re: your reads was very odd DK but it doesn't seem very out of the ordinary for you lol. I'm glad you agree but can you briefly highlight why you think Thor is the best lynch candidate?

Did you even read Post #214? o.o

I don't want to have to repeat myself. Thor was under "Null-scum" at the time.

[DeityKabuto]

Okie dokie. It is interesting, Thor is one of those players that seem more active than they actually are. Possibly because he's mentioned so much? Idk

Thor is active because he's most likely scum pushing on innocent town lynch (Ray). He is trying so hard, so let's get shit over our minds and lynch him.

[DeityKabuto]

pft I just subbed in, I want more discussion. We haven't even heard from The Tick yet, I hope it's good n.n

That's the problem, unlike large theme role games, in small setups like these, they're always the few inactives, and lazy bastards who signup.

[DeityKabuto]

I also noticed those comments of Thor's, but I can't see a player such as himself slipping up like that. I think those comments were made on purpose, and I think he has a lot of confidence in this game. Right now I'm far more suspicious of TheFool.

Also DK, if he has experience playing with you, I can fully understand his joke about wanting the wolves to kill you.

You are silly. Thor is scum. Experience has nothing to do with it.

[DeityKabuto]

Catchup later, major ISO on all the recent posts coming up.

[DeityKabuto]

@MOD: Post #347, my vote is on Thor, please fix~

[DeityKabuto]

I might do the ISO catchup tomorrow over the posts I missed today since I am getting lazy ._.

[DeityKabuto]

I haven't read anything but the VCA, as I said I will make my catchup post tomorrow, sorry.

Unvote
Vote Thor

[DeityKabuto]

Where have I avoided talking about either of them? I have a neutral read on both of them for very good reason, one of which I've already mentioned. I believe Thor is skilled, and I'm not sold on this Ray wagon. Yes, I know some of you think he is scummy, but I've seen it all before, and it's going to take more to convince me. I do not like the initial reasoning behind the wagon, nor do I like how everyone else, particularly you, jumped on it for no reason. Out of all those who hopped on, it pleases me the DK was the first one to jump off. It's one of the reasons I have a major town read on him at this point. He questioned why he was there in the first place, and decided it made no sense.

Right now for me, Thor and Ray effectively counteract each other, leaving me with a neutral read on both of them, with a slight scum lean on Ray. It's not enough to get my vote yet tho, and I'm more interested in the reads I get off of everyone else who jumped on the wagon. Particularly you. Let me be clear. I think you are scum.

Thor is not very skilled, he does have a lot of experience, but if you've played games with him, and do a Meta, you'd find his patterns and ways very predictable. I don't like your Neutral reads, look into the case more. There is a possibility Thor and Ray are both scum, and that's what I'm leaning towards. But I agree, I've suspected TheFool early on as Null-Scum, so I have no problem making sense of your case, whispers.

Oh, and whispers, can I call you Nana?

I don't like the name whispers at all, and every time I write it, I misspell whispers as "whipsers" and it's getting pretty tiring.

No. If I thought Thor was scum, I would say so. I'm saying that I believe he is skilled at scum hunting, but the fact he is being aggressive in this game does not automatically make him town in my eyes. Is what I said that hard to understand?

Thor is not skilled at scum hunting at all, he is simply as scum pressuring on another's lynch. In every posts all he says is "Lynch Ray" and other pushy words pressuring on Ray's lynch. I don't think that is Pro-town at all, and I am devastated that you don't see this.

I think Ray is defensive, and I think I would be too, after having someone start a campaign of voting on me for no reason. I'm not blind to what has been said, but I guess I'd still like to know why Thor jumped on him just because he made a comment about being away from this site. Am I missing something here?

One other thing I will say about Ray is this: I like his scum reads in post #262. They are pretty much my thoughts exactly.

On to you Fool:

Honestly, I beg to differ. Ray hasn't come up with any defensive which looks bad on him, but I am not saying that's what makes him look all that scummy.

Bit of advice: Don't bother trying to divert attention attention away from yourself by making me look bad or by playing dumb. Once I have a gut feeling, I don't let go. I think you are scum, and until you do something drastic to change my mind, I will focus on you and I won't stop until my questions are answered.

Don't focus on only one player, or I'll get the intention you're trying to pull of a Thor, *pressure for one guys lynch non-stop*. Thor is so focused on Ray right now, my balls are about to fall off.

Whispersilk proves she's better at reading comprehension and basic logic than blindfaeth.

@Whisper - you and DK seemed excited by blindfaeth showing up. If the game you're in with him is ongoing please don't quote specifics, but were you excited because he was a friendly/familiar face? Or were you excited because you think he's a good scumhunter/pro-town force?

Trolololol.

Possibly because I drive discussion and make statements that obligate people to respond to them - aka. scumhunting.
Are you accusing me of being nonactive here?

Blindfaeth can go into the scum list now.
OMGUS!
Also, still want Ray lynched, but now actually have someone I would get off Ray to lynch as well.

Wrong. All your reads divert the attention to one person, you adding Blindfaeth to the scum list means nothing since you will continue to hop on Ray's dick. I am saying your methods are fake and you are scum.

Montano is ridiculously unhelpful and anti town. I mean seriously, why do you have to be so defiant. You're the most anti town here sir, but I feel that you're not worth the lynch. Something tells me that he is so overly defiant that he couldn't scum, and more just a disgruntled townie. I'm not joining that wagon, although I do not like his play.

I was going to say something about whispersilk being on the fence myself, so I agree with what TheFool said. But she's come through with a good case against TheFool who I think is edging on scum.

I'm looking at at CMPunk though. His reasoning for his votes is hardly there, and when they are, they are basic. Like his vote on DK. It just seemed unoriginal to vote him as he joined a wagon he was unsure of. I think everyone who joined the first Montano wagon was unsure of it. He unvoted DK for no reason and then jumped on Montano's. I need more evidence from you.

Vote: CMPunk

Isn't CMPunk V/LA for the weekend?

I'd ask that you take the time to look at Thor & Ray's case as they are dragging a good amount of attention.

But nonetheless, I agree that CMPunk is quite suspicious and I won't stop you from looking any further.

Please explain why you're so convinced he isn't. Regardless of whether DK is scum or not, there are two factions. DK does not have to be tyhess' teammate to be scum. Oh wait, that's right. You think that tyhess is town because he voted with you on Ray, right? Anyone who agrees with you is good and anyone who doesn't, or accuses you, is bad, right? Wrong.

Partially why I believe Thor is scum, his play is involved.

DeityKabuto, Bro you're hopping like a kangaroo on speed. You've gone from suspecting Ray Montano to TheFool to Thor in just the span of a COUPLE PAGES. Scum or not, that's just insanity.

And you're still on notice for having breakdowns when in the hotseat. Whisper says that's just how you play--it's still destructive to the town.

WITH THAT SAID, Thor's case on Montano was pretty much baseless. What did he, or anybody for that matter, have on the guy? It started out as a random wagon, then the wagon was "justified" by Montano's lack of scumhunting...n1 scumhunting. Jesus Christ. Okay yeah, being active is important, but give it a damn PHASE at least to see if someone is really just dicking around. I mean come on...

I even think that if Montano had hit L-1, everybody would've backed off out of fear of a mislynch. Then we'd be right back to square one.

(And is it just me or does Thor remind anybody else of Gaston from Beauty in the Beast? I've been reading all his posts in Gaston's voice for some reason.)

Thor and DK are my scumreads right now. The only town read is CM Punk. Don't mean to sound sexist, but she has a similar post style to many female Mafia newbies I've seen when playing. You know. Spunky, headstrong, but doesn't say too much unless the thread is really heated.

Plus her feud with Triple H has been pretty cool so far. Too bad Raw's ratings still suck.

Are you one of those retard subs?

No way in hell is CMPunk a confirmed Town on your read. And if you were to post your reads, why only CM, Thor, and I?

I would throw down a vote, but since you accuse me of vote hopping, I will stay my vote on him. I just wish that I could vote multiple people at once, that how I feel right now, if I could it would be you, Thor, The Fool, and CMPunk.

But Punk doesn't speak up when the heat isn't revolved around her. There have been heated moments between other players and she makes sure to steer hell clear of it. Also, this week's Raw was awesome.

I think Thor's reacting really poorly to the suspicion on him from blind. It doesn't sit well with the read I had on him earlier. I'd also like for DK to grow a brain and contribute something original instead of piggybacking on everyone else's cases in this game.

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? HOW DO I PIGGYBACK?

READ POST #214, I POSTED THE MOST BIGGEST READS EVER. LEARN UR PLACE NEWB.

Ehhh... The Tick's suspects and town reads don't make me any less suspicious of him from his predecessor tyhess

Tick reminds me of one of the worst subs ever. It was here [quote="http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=17534]Post #307[/url]

The guy named Toro subbed in, all his actions were scummy, everything he did made no sense and he flipped scum.

A retarded sub, I must say.

Oh man, you are obvious town. Help me lynch Ray!

This sounds like scum trying to gain Town followers, and false town creds. Rofl.

Oh, and I'm not saying Ray isn't scum. Just saying you are slipping if you are scum, Thor.

Yes, that was my point. Quicklynches deprive the town of information and are often led by scum. His "quicklynches are bad" (iso 22) is a good example of what I mean; he comments that speedlynching DK would be bad, but manages to refrain from actually commenting on DK himself.

I am the one who mentioned Thor and how is trying to quick lynch Ray with each post,

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICES THAT?

[DeityKabuto]

@DK - you're accusing me of bad play?

::crickets::

And, yes, I'm trying to get Ray lynched in every post I make. You're not the only one who noticed it, I noticed it too, because I'm quite blatantly saying in every post that I want people to help me lynch Ray.

Though right at the moment I'm seriously almost tempted to flip on Blindfaeth - and you ducking my question about why you were happy to see him helps me not at all in that regard. The suddenness of the reversal of his reads is pretty shocking, and I want to know more about his play style. So how about you pretend to be pro-town for a little while and tell me you opinions of how Blindfaeth plays the game?

w.e

if Ray gets mis-lynched, than beware, I will scold you for it, so if you dare, go ahead and try and make it happen.

[DeityKabuto]

He just subbed in, I usually give subs Null-reads.

[DeityKabuto]

He is normal. He isn't anything special but he isn't Pro-town either. I did put trust in him after his Cop claim, and he didn't show an sign of being a VI. Normal, just normal...

[DeityKabuto]

I meant I don't like using meta to build a case or read.

Isn't meta the only basis for a policy lynch?

Do you have previous experience with DK?

No he doesn't.

Well, I've played games with thousands of people ITT-wide, and I do not recall any interactions with this guy. '-'

[DeityKabuto]

I meant I don't like using meta to build a case or read.

Isn't meta the only basis for a policy lynch?

Do you have previous experience with DK?

No he doesn't.

Well, I've played games with thousands of people ITT-wide, and I do not recall any interactions with this guy. '-'

I've played half a game with DK (I replaced out)
IIRC, you are correct, there were no interactions with me directly. But I still dislike your playstyle.
Besides,
1. The policy lynch was during RVS
2. This.

I can't improve by turning my attention span to ______ and doing less off ______.

Fill in the blanks.

[DeityKabuto]

Thor if Ray happens to be lynched and flips Town, do you think you would deserve the blame?

[DeityKabuto]

@Blind: Your case is good. It's wrong, but it's good.

Town.

Thor if Ray happens to be lynched and flips Town, do you think you would deserve the blame?

Other than the blame Ray deserves, yes, the blame would be mine.
If he flips scum does that make me obv. town, awesome, and do you get all the blame? (because you will - from me anyway )

Lmao all your suspects always get prodded.

[DeityKabuto]

unvote;
vote whisper

if for nothing else than a nice little pinch to get her posting content again~

OMG that's mean. This weekend is really tough for me. Sorry everyone. I have lots to read and post, and thought I would have tons of spare time this weekend, but rl reared it's ugly head.

It wasn't just mean, a bit newbie too, I suggest he unvotes. --'

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote

About time you give a legit explanation of your vote on Ray >_>

[DeityKabuto]

I thought he was at L-2 again or am I mistaken? B/c I unvoted and voted whisper? I don't have a problem switching my vote back after his response if we think he's our best shot for the day. I think everyone is tired of discussion/getting anxious for the day to end, everyone has grown pretty quiet.

Yea I think he is at L-1 also.

[DeityKabuto]

Vote Ray

Thus the hammer, I hope you guys got all the discussion you needed, my vote goes on Thor depending on the flip, that's pretty much everything that I hoped for. If Ray is scum, than that's pretty genuine we caught scum first day, oh well, let's see.

[DeityKabuto]

Vote Thor

[DeityKabuto]

Right now I'd actually be more safe lynching Thor, but it doesn't mean we should ignore everybody else, so let's discuss the day instead of rushing things.

Back in Day 1, I had Thor as Null-scum, and now I've moved it to Leaning-Scum because of Ray's flip, which should have been pretty obvious to everyone.

Like others whispers, lack of content is noticeable, but I think that is less of her being scum and more of the scum taking it as an opportunity to point it out to put pressure on an innocent town, yet it is just my theory so go on with your beliefs.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm being run up for the scumtell of being "wrong" aren't I?

D1, I asked you if Ray flipped town, would you blame yourself, and you replied 'Yes, I would take the blame'.

Way before that I suspected you, and as a scum it's normal for you to admit taking the blame to appear Townie and confident with your read on Ray.

[DeityKabuto]

What blame do you think is really there to take other than being "wrong"? I accept the blame, but the blame isn't a case - don't confuse the two.

He played in a way that looked scummy.
I believed he was scum.
I was wrong and lead a lynch on a townie. If every time someone leads a lynch on a townie they get lynched than no one would ever lead a lynch again and no one would ever be lynched.

Have you ever played on Epic Mafia?

Normally people go after Town's who cause them to mislynch and they flip scum.

[DeityKabuto]

We might as well just all lynch Thor lol

I can see where Thor is going with blindfaeth, another ML.

lol. Thor is fail

[DeityKabuto]

Seriously? If you thought Ray's flip should have been obvious, why did you hammer him?

No, I found both Ray and Thor suspicious, but I put in the theory that one is Town and one is scum.

I can see where Thor is going with blindfaeth, another ML.

I am not. D1, we sheeped Thor and ended up with a mislynch, I will not sheep Thor again on blindfaeth.

@CMPunk

I will get to your post previous page later.

[DeityKabuto]

I'm being run up for the scumtell of being "wrong" aren't I?

D1, I asked you if Ray flipped town, would you blame yourself, and you replied 'Yes, I would take the blame'.

Way before that I suspected you, and as a scum it's normal for you to admit taking the blame to appear Townie and confident with your read on Ray.

vote: DeityKabuto

Seems scum would go out of their way to pin this on Thor. Yes, he said he would take the blame if Ray flipped town but that does not make Thor scum IMO. It just made him wrong, like 6 other people were including me (Yes it took 7 to lynch, not just Thor)

Being wrong is NOT scum IMO

Pushing what seems to be a policy lynch on someone who was wrong, simply because they were wrong is Scummy.

Thor had no reason to stick his head out and say if I am wrong I take responsibilty, that is pretty big burden for someone to take, and putting themselves way out in the open, which scum/wolves want to avoid.

Thor is town

It just made him wrong? Thor even said he would blame himself, that's good enough reason for anyone to lay a vote on him. I don't know why you even bother to defend Thor, it's silly. Are you saying that you find Thor 0% suspicions? Not even the slightest?

Being wrong can be scum, scum would do what Thor dead, get retarded townies to sheep on him for a mislynch, ITS WHAT SCUM ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

Thor is town

THOR WAS SCUM PERSUADING TOWN TO SHEEP ON HIM, AND PEOPLE IGNORANTLY FOLLOWED

[DeityKabuto]

@The Fool - quite frankly, I just split the wagon in half.

Some scum would want to get on early to a wagon they saw as possibly gaining speed, and both scum teams would have been fine supporting that wagon. This is the first half of the wagon.
After some scum get on, other scum from their team would want some other people to show support for the wagon and then might snark in towards the end to finish pushing it through - these would be the tail end of the wagon.
Two groups, probably at least 1 scum in each set of three.

There's also scum off the wagon, but those are a little harder to predict where they were lurking until you get a couple more flips.

lmao. You are dividing the wagons into two groups when you are the main driver who got everyone to sheep them, but nonetheless scum were on that wagon.

[DeityKabuto]

I will have a real post up by the end of the day.

So this one's a fake?

[DeityKabuto]

lmao. You are dividing the wagons into two groups when you are the main driver who got everyone to sheep them, but nonetheless scum were on that wagon.

Wagon contained 7 of 10 alive players.
There are 5 scum alive.
Derp - there were scum on the wagon, derp-derp-duuuuh.

This is your counter-case?

Are you saying you're not among those scum, or are you trying to divert attention?

[DeityKabuto]

Still v/LA but the comments about my ~"Thor is better than this" are ridiculous. I was obviously trying to pad Thor's signature metric and after he made his comment to the effect that only one per person per game would be counted, I was/am done with it. Ie, it was a joke.

This made me chuckle

[DeityKabuto]

Hey whispers, who's alt are you?

[DeityKabuto]

I'm not an alt.

Haha. Well you are better at Mafia than Me which is Making me go a Little Nuts right. Kuuku Bananas.

[DeityKabuto]

Well, I'm older than you, and I'm female. That automatically makes me better than you at everything.

jjajajajajajajajajja

what do you think about CM being lynched today?

[DeityKabuto]

Thor what do you think about CM's lynch?

You've been drawing away from that wagon?

Is it because you don't want people to find you scummy for it or wat?..

[DeityKabuto]

Well, I'm older than you, and I'm female. That automatically makes me better than you at everything.

jjajajajajajajajajja

what do you think about CM being lynched today?

At this point, I'd rather see TheFool or Sky receive some pressure. My current read on CM is neutral. But I'm getting there. There doesn't seem to be many other people posting atm, so I'm just trying to get all my reads done in between rl stuff and sleeping.

God's great love.
God shared his great big love for us.
Because of his great love.

[DeityKabuto]

Let me put it another way - the entire writeup you just did on DK could have been summed up as; he's a little too willing to follow people than I am comfortable with, but I've seen him play like this as town. Currently I'm leaning town.

Then is someone called you on it you could write up the uber case.
Until then you could have probably already read up on someone else in the time it took you to write that DK iso.
Maybe I am in a rush. Maybe you're too slow. The truth probably lies in the middle, but don't dismiss me because I'm impatient to see actual movement in the game. That does not inherently make my reads inferior.

I'm thorough. Deal with it.

I'm not dismissing you, but I'm certainly not going to rush my thoughts just because you want a faster game. Have a look around, there are so many players not posting atm, does it really make a difference if my reads take another few hours?

If we are to lynch one player, who'd it be?

Damn I love my epic post count this game xD

I am living life to its fullest.

[DeityKabuto]

Nice triplet post ;3

My highest consecutive post was around 6 or 7. ;3

Oh I love talking to my dearest WWhispperssss!

[DeityKabuto]

VOTE: Sky

Sky, I'd like to hear your reasoning behind your tunnelling of CMPunk.

jajaa.

I don't think it's a scumtell. CMPunk is heavily suspected, Sky is just building his/her own case.

[DeityKabuto]

You say that, but from my POV, he is suspicious, and I can't believe all 5 scum were on that wagon, and out of Sky and havingfitz, I'm going to go with the one I already think is scummy.

Possible. This game is all about risks.

Except the majority of town have votes on blindfaeth, Thor and CMPunk, why be the loner and start a case when it's less likely to happen?

[DeityKabuto]

And Ray was heavily suspected; look where that got us.

Ray was heavily suspected in my view. I voted him to move the game forward and debate whether Thor was scum or not. I didn't care if he appeared scummy or not like the others said.

[DeityKabuto]

IBWODB:

Ray was not heavily suspected in my p.ov.

[DeityKabuto]

Then why do you think all those people voted for him?

Ever since you claim that you're better than me Whispers, I've become real carefree.

[DeityKabuto]

Wait, Thor thinks CM might be scum?

unvote CMPunk

Explain.

[DeityKabuto]

More votes on Thor!

I feel happy that people have finally agree with me and our siding up!

it really means a lot

[DeityKabuto]

I don't need no one to tell me how to move my feat!

[DeityKabuto]

Nice activity post, whispers. :/

[DeityKabuto]

Thor how do you feel being put at L-2?

Do you think some1 would hammer if you were at L-1?

Will you vote yourself?

[DeityKabuto]

Being wrong does not make you scummy, and I think this case on thor is scum pushed simply because he said he would take the fall today if Rey fliiped town which he did. Scum know he would take the fall and see it as an easy lynch now to push.

Sky, why is it exactly you want me lynched what parts of what i have said do you not agree with? You have done a lot of saying I need lynched but actually nothing saying WHY I should be lynched. Your main reasoning that I can actually see is my lack of explinations on votes which I have already proven to be a lie as I have reasons with ALL my votes and feel you are just sheeping BB and what he is saying.

Hey, why aren't you pressuring Thor more?

Wouldn't it help Thor being lynched in your place?..

[DeityKabuto]

DK here

Vote Thor

Limited access, power is still out.

[DeityKabuto]

And the derp wagon continues.
Yeah, this is totally town driven, fer'sure.

Look at you.

Just vote yourself.

[DeityKabuto]

Hey guys I just got my free labtop, so I should be able to post more often.

[DeityKabuto]

Yup. Time to take my V/La Shit off.

[DeityKabuto]

[sarcasm]Hmmmph...I was just looking at the activity review and

apparently there is a player named DonJosh in this game. Can someone confirm this?

[/sarcasm]

You need a life.

[DeityKabuto]

Don Josh is a weird one. He seems to be in quite a few games, but doesn't actually participate in many of them.

He could be a troll, and/or it may be a scum tell.

Whenever I play as scum, I am inactive, and post little to no just to override prods, etc.

[DeityKabuto]

I don't think you're one to preach about scumhunting, Thor.

How cute. Anyways I expected Thor to be lynched by now, srsly.

[DeityKabuto]

@DonJosh: Do you think Thor is town? How do you feel about him thinking you are town but wanting to lynch you?

I do think Thor is town with two honest mislynches on his record.
He's explained the contradiction. He has a town read, but if DK is town, his PoE makes me scum. I don't see what the big deal is.

If Thor is scum, you just went out of your way to shield him.

That gives me three theories.

1. You are a confused town who is going by basic facts to decide whether Thor is town or not, seemingly as Thor pushed hard on the ML wagon D1, that is reason enough, no need to let his text and defense persuade you even further.
2. You are a scum who is trying to get your partner off the hook, I'm going with this one.
3. You are a scum who thinks by defending your partner, it will look like a normal towns people post, where every man has his/her own opinion, and it would be more of a bus / distance sort of thing but a more calm, straightforward thing to get your partner off the hook.

[DeityKabuto]

@DonJosh: Do you think Thor is town? How do you feel about him thinking you are town but wanting to lynch you?

I do think Thor is town with two honest mislynches on his record.
He's explained the contradiction. He has a town read, but if DK is town, his PoE makes me scum. I don't see what the big deal is.

If Thor is scum, you just went out of your way to shield him.

That gives me three theories.

1. You are a confused town who is going by basic facts to decide whether Thor is town or not, seemingly as Thor pushed hard on the ML wagon D1, that is reason enough, no need to let his text and defense persuade you even further.
2. You are a scum who is trying to get your partner off the hook.
3. You are a scum who thinks by defending your partner, it will look like a normal towns people post, where every man has his/her own opinion, and it would be more of a bus / distance sort of thing but a more calm, straightforward thing to get your partner off the hook.
4. You are a town member answering a question honestly. You also want to avoid a third mislynch.

FTFY

Care to explain?

[DeityKabuto]

Exactly what part needs explaining? It's pretty damn clear.

It's like stealing candy from a baby. rofl.

[DeityKabuto]

You know what? This game is so fucking boring, I'm willing to lynch anyone right now just to get some action going.

epicmafia.com

[DeityKabuto]

I'm up for lynching BB, DJ or DK.

jaja why is my name on your list?

For all we know, you could be scum, scum can't form opinions!

[DeityKabuto]

I'm up for lynching BB, DJ or DK.

jaja why is my name on your list?

For all we know, you could be scum, scum can't form opinions!

I am so town it's unreal. And I'm really fucking bored. I don't know what it is about this game, but it's become a major headache, which is a shame, because I'm pretty decent at spotting scum, but no matter how many times I read this thread and everyone in ISO, I can make heads or tails of it.

I just finished up Paris Mafia 3. I was the vig, and I killed both mimes and one of the scum in two nights, and the last scum I caught, lynched, and town won. If there was a vig in this setup, and I was it, I would put a bullet in Sky's head right now.

You're a 30 year old, I'm 15 year old. You shouldn't let this petty game stress you out. You should start playing large theme role games, they are more face paced and adventerous.

[DeityKabuto]

Fake people are like pennies, two-faced and worthless.

[DeityKabuto]

Hahahha. This is 2EZ, CMPunk + Thor scum, done deal.

[DeityKabuto]

jaja. until someone dies, I can't take this game seriously.

We rlly need to move on.

[DeityKabuto]

if you cant take it seriously, why play?

Scum can't form opinions!

[DeityKabuto]

@Mod, if the Town comes to a stalemate, a No-Lynch occurs and no extension?

[DeityKabuto]

Unvote; Vote DonJosh

I might do an ISO or w.e but it looks like Thor's wagon died. either way i dont care whoever gets lynched first

[DeityKabuto]

I have two votes on me without explanation. Explain nao pl0x.

CMPunk is V/LA because you're his partner so you can vote somebody else while he flys under the radar. But now that I mentioned your plan and totally humiliated you infront of everyone, your flawless.

[DeityKabuto]

Godammit DK, you got me. You're right. Now I'm totally humiliated. That was my plan word for word. Good job.

More Votes on Don. Dammit I'm badass, I'm make such a good cop.

[DeityKabuto]

Sky you are scummy, you haven't voted.

[DeityKabuto]

Well. Thor's wagon seems to have dissolved. Which is extremely depressing.
A NL would screw town over, so I'll unvote for now and decide which of these other wagons I support.

UNVOTE:

Feel free to speak up and summarize your case on the person you're voting.

This is a Pro-town act.

EVERYBODY Bbmola is confirmed Pro-town.

our only confirmed, at least. I nominate Bbmola for the hammer.

[DeityKabuto]

Man I feel like I have this thread all to myself, like a personal diary, even. If only people would start posting.

[DeityKabuto]

Bbmola what do you gain from putting some1 like whisper who finds you scummy on your Town list. You gained whispers trust, that is.

[DeityKabuto]

Don Josh have you heard of the song "Good Life by One Republic"?
EXTREMELY SCUMMY?
anyway, explain how post AND I QUOTE #948 is

[DeityKabuto]

He is playing like DK always plays - I certainly see no discernable fluxuation between this and his town play whic I have experienced in the past. The point making him actually scummy is the PoE.

Thor you could at least try to appear more Pro-town now that you're off the hook. Seriously.

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wow thor has the hammer, i wanted it to be bbmola for his pro town play.

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The hammer on DonJosh? Meh.

How about everyone who's voting him for being "obv. scum" explain the case to me. Outside of PoE he's one of my strongest current town reads, so I'm not a big fan of this with everything that is DK smacking me in the face. I'd especially like to see BB's case, since he's been feeling really case-less today. lus whisper already owes me this case from like...forever and last Tuesday ago.

@CM - what's your read on fitz? I don't think I ever got it.

Thor! Just the man I wuz looking for! Why don't you post us your reads.

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Will catch up tomorrow.

Saying you will catch up means nothing, saying what you've learned after you catch up means something, and that one has a lot more effect on your status (scum, town, werewolf).

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Hey Thor, why aren't you voting for DJ?

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FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUU-

Is something wrong, Thor?

Are you saying that there is someone you'd rather lynch than DonJosh?

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Thor is voting havingfitz who is voting CMPunk who is voting DonJosh who is voting CMPunk.

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How stubborn of you Thor.

I'd expect better coming from you.

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@Punk - I have given functional reasons to vote fitz. You should vote fitz.

Or you could turn around that "explain the case" accussation you just made, and explain your DJ case - that would be good for a chuckle.

You caused the mislynch D1, we know better than to sheep you this time, so how about you sheep whispers and vote DonJosh, K?

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Bbmola I found you on Epicmafia.

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I'm game for a DK.

But I'm holding out for tomorrow.

This does not make sense.

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I'm game for a DK.

But I'm holding out for tomorrow.

Then I would cross and vote you, and we would lynch b/w me and you by how many towntells each of us have.

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Unvote
Vote CMPunk

Hammer...

I'm cleared if I'm right.

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Nobody post after this.

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DK, if she is town, you die tomorrow.

You're an idiot.

Tomorrow I'm voting you first thing, you came off surprisingly scummy.

But thank you Captain. Obvious.

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Actually Werewolf will be on me tomorrow, so good luck Town.

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I'm calling you an idiot for not letting her claim first. Why did you hammer like that?

Discussion after the hammer is against the law.

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Don apparently Town lost, but I am not convinced you are the last VT, then again, we might all claim VT, either way you yourself could very well be scum.

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What do you mean by "Town Lost"?

There are two Mafia, two Werewolf, two Town. If you were Town, wouldn't it be hard to play for your win condition in this situation?

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?

Yar, I'm Mafia, kiddo.

Town has no chance, alone btw.

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Thor is my partner & I would lynch Sky for werewolf.

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Thor is my partner & I would lynch Sky for werewolf.

I'm more comfortable with a sageamagoo lynch, since she's conf wolf from my POV. (She CC'd me)

You speak as if you're cleared, which you're not.

You and sagea are riding the same boat, equally scummy.

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I'd rather lynch sky, and lynch b/w you and sag tomorrow for the win.

Vote Sky

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Unvote

Have to read things through.

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I reread.

Vote Sky

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I'm still not seeing a reason as to why you didn't claim and voted CMPunk over DJ when he was apparently a wolf from your oracular abilities.

I still think you're one of the Werewolves.

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Unvote

That is a pretty legiment case, havingfitz, what is your defense to Post #1115?

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Sorry still here, just don't see a reason to post since I have my mindset on Sky.

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Why do you have your mind set on Sky?

The reason to post is that you and I stand the best chance of making a good call here - and I feel really conflicted, so if you're certain you should at least be selling me on it.

I am not too "certain". But really, after we claimed our roles, everyone else had to come in and claim their roles, Sky I believe was the last to do so, etc.

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Unvote;
Vote havingfitz

Your logic beats mine.

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Thor you are making the right choice. And I am glad DK came through.

I feel at unease reading this post.

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Thor, in a Newbie game I've played with havinfitz. He acts the exact same way as now, and he was scum. He acts Pro-town and everything.

Idk about Sky.

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Thor, do you notice that shift in Sky's playstyle now that he has the advantage in this situation?

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I'm so sad right now.

And and don't be. I doubt I could convince you to vote Sky, anyway. (wary)

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Argh... schoolwork earned me a prod...

Sorry, I've been reading the thread but haven't had time to actually post.

Making a draft now...

It's okay. Thoughts on havingfitz recent post?

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oh ok anyone cc werewolf?

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@fitz - wasn't DJ at L-1 yesterday...

Not that I recall. Is there a mod count showing that?

Trollololololol.

Trollololololol. <- ppl drowning

hahahah

lolololl <- more ppl drowning

thor u doinng a great a job ^^

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Unvote
Vote Sky

havingfitz is legit

[DeityKabuto]

No scum slips in that post. '-'

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Unvote
Vote havingfitz

GG.