ASOIAF: Test of Faith Mafia (Game Over!)

[Hinduragi]

And why would he not counterclaim and have Ben instalynched as scum? Why would he be that much more protective of his role?

[Hinduragi]

...No. Why would scum with that not claim it to LOOK more town by doing so? It's obviously what a townie is SUPPOSED to do, right?

[Hinduragi]

I think I'd rather hear this from Magua. He's thought about it a lot and wouldn't be following a gut read on this.

[Hinduragi]

Benmage has to be scum for this?

....And so, Benmage is his recruit? And he doesn't want his recruit lynched but is bussing him and will happily jump off if it looks like his recruit is in danger?

[Hinduragi]

Never mind that.

If it looks like Benmage isn't going to get lynched, he's happy enough to drop it .

I read this wrong. Like this

If it looks like Benmage is going to get lynched, he's happy enough to drop it

[Hinduragi]

You're right. His Day 4 end-day behavior doesn't match up AT ALL to a town perspective on someone who tried to out them as a PR. BUT why does Benmage have to be scum for this? I don't get it.

[Hinduragi]

Yes, but I want to see where Magua's coming from. I have a townread on Benmage and had one on Empking so this is confusing.

[Hinduragi]

Locke, the other lurker, got cleared by Cow. He can't be CR.

Empking's not being vocal about yesterday's lynch is similar to AGM and what I described. His defense is also terrible. Nexus isn't going anywhere. I still think Ben is town.

My lynch list is:
Empking
Nexus
Locke
CES
Espeonage

[Hinduragi]

Ebwop

Unvote; Vote: Empking

[Hinduragi]

Mafia or recruit. I really doubt that slot's town.

[Hinduragi]

Should've fakehammered. I was about to play it off as one too.

[Hinduragi]

Yeah, but I wanted to see his reaction to it regardless of whether or not he checked the VC's beforehand and could've possibly lied about it. Tbh, I'm ignoring them for the most part, unless there are competing wagons or I want to see a wagon.

[Hinduragi]

Must be the irish carbomb going to your head to make him not realize how awesomely secretive we're being.

[Hinduragi]

Faraday is trying to save his cult leader, obviously.

[Hinduragi]

Oh wait, you were still voting me. What the fuck?

[Hinduragi]

This is WRONG. On SO MANY levels. Faraday-TOWN NEVER,

NEVER

votes one of his townreads. He defends them to the fucking DEATH.

[Hinduragi]

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p3260891


.....

Dude, I don't know. Maybe he was recruited. I'm not even sure anymore.

[Hinduragi]

You're a recruit at best. I'm thinking about the rest because of this. http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3291785

[Hinduragi]

No, if you knew this would happen, you could use it to your advantage is where I'm going.

[Hinduragi]

I think 2942 means Faraday isn't a recruit of Empking, then, which makes me fairly confident Faraday's town. Back to his wagon.

[Hinduragi]

No, if you knew this would happen, you could use it to your advantage is where I'm going.

would I post that as a cult recruit? (I like to think I would, actually)

I was paranoid until you played dumb in that last post and I thought about it. It'd be amazing play, really.

[Hinduragi]

someone remind me to never play with cults again i'm p sure i've lost the plot

Same. This game has been hell.

[Hinduragi]

Can scum claim? Empking, if you're scum, just go ahead. Honestly.

<-Being entirely serious. This game sucks. I swear I won't lynch you.

[Hinduragi]

I thought you were kidding tbh. I don't see why being scum would make them right about the CR.

[Hinduragi]

No, though I still want it to happen.

[Hinduragi]

You and I both know it isn't that simple.

[Hinduragi]

Yeah, but a recruit could claim scum.

[Hinduragi]

Look, I like to gambit as scum. I'd take the opportunity to risk my ass and see who the scum were when they voted me as well as mindfuck the town.

[Hinduragi]

And? I just effectively found a scum, possibly got another townie or that scum added to my faction, and took attention off of my CR.

[Hinduragi]

Yes, I, because I would do that.

[Hinduragi]

Oh yeah, balance-wise that does make sense. Oh well. All the more reason for scum to claim.

[Hinduragi]

Unvote; Vote: Benmage

THANK YOU EMPKING

[Hinduragi]

This is possibly one of the most awesome moments I've ever had in a game. I don't think I've ever had a scum faction actually helping me.

[Hinduragi]

Spyrex is going to be so fucking proud too. I can already hear him celebrating.

[Hinduragi]

To be fair, the 3 town lynches we had in a row and the mafia's shooting town didn't really help. It wasn't exactly cult being pro.

[Hinduragi]

Nexus is probably cult. I was totally right.

[Hinduragi]

Posting something witty does not affect your alignment.

Can you explain why you're asking this?

I'll give you three guesses.

[Hinduragi]

I think it's more telling that he logged in and was following along with our earlier conversation and still isn't voting.

[Hinduragi]

See, I can't win now. If I hammer Ben, then I'm trying to look town, and if I withold the hammer, I'm cult according to you guys anyway.

Who gives a fuck?

[Hinduragi]

I can almost 100% guarantee you that you're getting shot regardless.

[Hinduragi]

Why the fuck are you even lurking so much when you're always logged in?

[Hinduragi]

Well, Benmage might not be the recruiter. Obviously, Spyrex is confirmed as fuck if he is.

[Hinduragi]

Faraday, stop making me doubt you as town and then making me 180 on that.

[Hinduragi]

did emp say what happens if cult tries to recruit him?

Nope, but his wagon is juicy if they did try to recruit him.

[Hinduragi]

I tend to play very well or very poorly, there is little middleground. This has been one of my worst games in a bit.

Same, actually, but I blame the cult and the SK lynch. Though Cow's was kinda my fault since I tried to hold it off then went dumb and voted.

Lost Butterfly 2011-07-29 15:15:11 0 days 0 hours 540
Benmage 2011-07-28 21:07:47 0 days 18 hours 386
Hinduragi 2011-07-29 15:16:09 0 days 0 hours 244

What the fuck? How did you get 540?

[Hinduragi]

just out of curiousity emp were you guys cult leader hunting with the nightkills?

There was no way DGB was cult leader. No way.

[Hinduragi]

I can post like that but really. He over doubled my post count. I know we should be putting this twilight to better use rather than spam like this but I ran out of stuff to post about.

[Hinduragi]

Also, Mina has 30 posts tops, I'd say. I don't even remember many of her posts asides from some D1 walls.

[Hinduragi]

Really? And you said you couldn't handle playing a game by yourself right now.

Why is CES over Nexus, though? Nexus' shitty defense?

[Hinduragi]

Ok, call me crazy here but I'm proposing something. I am STILL TOWN. LOL? This shit shouldn't be possible, even from my standpoint. I claimed VT, what? THREE DAYS AGO? Cult must have a recruit limit or some shit. I don't even know, man.

Now someone explain to me why we're lynching claimed mafia or SK.

[Hinduragi]

And which of you fucks killed Faraday? I fucking told you he was town.

[Hinduragi]

1.) Lynch Empking. If there's 4 scum total (and another kill makes me pretty sure about that) a lynch today on not scum is game regardless.
2.) Scum kill ESP. This is kinda a double hope because either he's SK and he's going to kill and there will be crosskills OR he's a recruiter and killing happens clearly before recruitment so.
3.) This puts us at 6/2 scum tomorrow. If Esp isn't the cult recruiter AND there's 2 recruits then I get to decide a winner huzzah!
--- If Esp is the cult recruiter hopefully that puts it at 2/2/2 and its lynch scum AND hope for scum to hit cult for a 1/2/1. From there its lynch scum and then find the cult.

Spyrex, if we do this, I'm going to be cult tomorrow.

[Hinduragi]

At least if you're saying Esp is CR because of kills > recruits.

[Hinduragi]

I'd rather have you just lynch me today. I pick dying over being one of those faggots.

[Hinduragi]

We lynch me or CR as far as I'm concerned.

[Hinduragi]

And I obviously didn't read anything except Day start and who was NK'd when I made my first post.

[Hinduragi]

So it's going to be this way. Sorry, Spyrex, I'm going to leave you on your own. Cult or mafia best quickhammer me while you guys can. Everyone else will love to sheep Spyrex and probably kill one of you guys.

Vote: Hinduragi

[Hinduragi]

Yes, I did call him town. I don't see why the fuck you're unvoting when I want to actually die. If Spyrex is town, then most everyone not me/him on this playerlist HAS to be scum.

[Hinduragi]

Because we already lost and I don't want to be some fucking recruit. That's why.

[Hinduragi]

I'd just rather not be recruited and have my wincon changed. Since I can't win, I don't give a fuck anymore.

[Hinduragi]

Good. That's how I know you aren't town.

[Hinduragi]

No, there's a difference. At this point I can quietly go with cult and accept the win that will probably come with it or I can get myself lynched. At Day 3, I could've been recruited or I could've looked bad as a recruit in some ways and kept on going as town. I made my choices when I got my role PM.

[Hinduragi]

Fuck off and die.

Vote me.

[Hinduragi]

Yes, just lynch me. I'm telling you something about this game is terribly off. So just kill me. I can't win anymore.

[Hinduragi]

FMPOV, Hinduragi has to be the recruiter.

Also, FMPOV, I can't vote him without losing and he knows it.

FUCK YOU, I'M A VT

[Hinduragi]

Even if I was CR, I would try to recruit Nexus just because Magua wouldn't grant me my wish.

[Hinduragi]

It's not all about fucking winning, Magua. Sometimes you just man up and decide to take a loss and stay town. Godfuckingdamn.

[Hinduragi]

I don't fucking know, dude. Why the fuck do you think I'm voting myself.

[Hinduragi]

Ftr, I thought it had to be you but you're obviously fucking town. And Nexus and his bullshit I don't even wanna know.

[Hinduragi]

I'd have to say Spyrex from just gut. I want to believe him but I don't even know where the ground is thanks to this game.

[Hinduragi]

Will you lynch me if I answer that?

[Hinduragi]

Hey, Magua wants to be recruited. I don't. I don't know what you want. Me self-voting helps him out, at least.

I've thought Spyrex was CR since way back. Plus SK is a lolclaim and adds up to why Esp claimed unrecruitable and shot Cyber on a whim. Seriously, though, don't fucking lynchg mafia. That's handing cult the win and being all "LOLOL, recruit me tonight so I can win with you". Noone should fall that low.

[Hinduragi]

Unvote; Vote: Empking

I got a plan. Let's do this, guys. Game's in the bag.

[Hinduragi]

I am not explaining my plan. It's a secret plan.

[Hinduragi]

Sure, I'm fine with that.

[Hinduragi]

Sure, I'm fine with that.

I had respect for you after your play in DEFCON, Day 3.

Not so much anymore.

I'm not very useful for cult games where I have too many townreads. I could've told you back in dead QT that I wouldn't do as well in this game.

[Hinduragi]

Though I am sorry for not living up to your expectations. But I'm just done with this game. Everything that could go wrong went wrong.

[Hinduragi]

I'm pretty fuckin' clearly CR. Don't see why we haven't lynched me yet. I MUST be CR, right? OH WAIT, NOPE, STILL VT. I only said it a MILLION times. Told you fucks to just lynch me.

[Hinduragi]

No, Magua. You see, I'm stuck with the TERRIBLY UNDESIRABLE position of being the ONLY VT in the game who CAN'T prove himself to be NON CULT. I ALSO haven't been recruited so I know that the cult MUST be pushing me. I also know that ANYONE WHO IS TOWN(GOD BLESS YOUR POOR SOUL FOR I KNOW THE HARDSHIPS) is about to be MINDFUCKED. So, no, this is not a whining stage. This is a "I can't help you so just lynch me or I'll sheep onto whatever plan there is" stage. Now, I could claim cop and have a guilty on Spyrex right now. While that would be wonderful, I'm still a VT.

Also, I don't trust Espeonage. At all. Remember, he replaced into Maemuki's spot. The only thing I do think he is telling the truth about is his kill. And I highly doubt it's 3-shot. So anyways, you guys enjoy this game. I will probably continue to mindlessly post until dawn tomorrow at which point I will have a nice chat with the dead QT and get to make an awesome bah post.

[Hinduragi]

Why would cult push for you to die if you could be recruited instead?

See, I can't prove myself and I can't argue this point. I have no fucking idea. Oh wait, here's one, wait, no, I'm still lost. Did you see my first post this day? I have no idea why I'm not cult yet.

Why do you blame cult pushing on you instead of scum

No. I mean pushing for my NK. "If some random townie gets killed off in the aftermath, well then, that's fine by us".

If they go for my lynch now, they're fucking idiots. The game is already in the bag for them.

[Hinduragi]

8 people. If there are 4 scum, then everyone except me and maybe one person is cult. Fucking lol. Screw this game.

[Hinduragi]

For the record, CR is one of Magua/Spyrex for anyone who would like to lynch me now. I'd be down for letting scum win after looking at those numbers. Someone I've been "sheeping" is obviously fucking cult and manipulating this.

Unvote

So, mafia, you guys want to win? I really don't give a fuck and the cult can suck a dick for all I care.

[Hinduragi]

It could be Nexus but I REALLY REALLY doubt it so he isn't a good shot. Hell, maybe even Espeonage. Hey Empking, if you want to live, better speak up.

[Hinduragi]

Espeonage is cult leader. 100%.

How do you know?

[Hinduragi]

I'm asking because you were clearly wrong about Benmage.

[Hinduragi]

I really don't trust anyone except Empking right now, to be honest, so I'm not reading that much into other people's posts.

[Hinduragi]

So him lying means he has to be CR and not a recruit?

[Hinduragi]

....Why can't he be a recruit?

[Hinduragi]

Given that Espeonage has been onsite and posting, I am content to wait for his answers on his role / why he shot LB.

If I was actually an SK who claimed just a few pages ago, I'd be giving more to this game. When I out my role and alignment, I post more to contribute as much as I can. If I was third party self-aligned, I'd definitely be out here looking useful.

I will wait but his active lurking at this point isn't helping.

[Hinduragi]

Fuck it. I'm dying anyways. Might as well go out in the same reckless style I've played with.

Vote: Espeonage

[Hinduragi]

@Hindu - you're voting the same way a self confessed scum is voting - what does this tell you?

1.) That you cannot properly determine alignment's based on votes.
or
2.) You are scum.

I'm leaning both of them together.

[Hinduragi]

Scum, cult, mafia. It's all the same thing. We've all known Thor was recruited since Day 4 or so.

[Hinduragi]

Also, magua is confirmed non-CR. Apparently he hasn't lost all his respect for me since I was asked to replace into [redacted] due to him. I would be a recruit right now if he was CR.

[Hinduragi]

Mod: Can the recruiter successfully recruit tonight if he dies the same night he attempts to recruit?

[Hinduragi]

We lynch Espeonage today. This page is exactly why. Townreads on Magua and Spyrex. Sheeping me = town win. Seriously, has my play since suicide mode looked like suicide?

[Hinduragi]

Hit submit too early. Ah well.

8 people alive, 2(3?) are mafia, most likely 3 or 4 are cult. We're looking at anywhere between 5-7 scum. I'm really doubting it's 7 so it must be 5 or 6, meaning at least one of those second options doesn't exist. I am leaning towards 2 mafia. If we don't lynch CR today and the recruit can't go through, he kills a townie(which the cult can easily know who's town from reads alone) tonight and the mafia kills him. If he can still kill and was lying about 3-shot or having the N2 kill blocked, we're still fucked anyways. Or we can lynch mafia, guarantee the cult a win, and keep on going. I know what I'm doing. Fuck your "plan".

[Hinduragi]

Unvote

Magua, he's confirmed cult, at the least. We'll have to figure out the rest from here. I want to see why I didn't like your plan first, though. It didn't sit well with me.

[Hinduragi]

ISO'd Empking. Agree with 3 mafia. Considering options now.

[Hinduragi]

Is it possible in any way that Spyrex is mafia?

[Hinduragi]

Nah, fuck that.

[Hinduragi]

I think mafia has some info about the cult that we don't too given the no lynch confidence. That or they hope the remaining townie wouldn't side with the cult in voting.

[Hinduragi]

Trying to figure out a way to see if there's any chance I can not have my wincon forcefully fucking changed overnight without blindly trusting the idea that CR has a recruit limit. You obviously don't have to worry about that problem. So hold the fuck up and let me think.

[Hinduragi]

Someone please explain to me the sense in helping someone understand why they should lynch you.

[Hinduragi]

In short: Empking doesn't seem to care that he's helping himself die.

[Hinduragi]

Espeonage seems to not care a goddamn thing what happens.

CASE IN POINT. I've got until August 22nd to think about why he doesn't care. You can damn well bet I'll take that long if I have to. Then there's the "why give CR a kill" theory? And I still believe cult started with 2 people. Now, I believe we know where this takes us. Into moonland. But we were already there anyways. Thoughts?

[Hinduragi]

That's what I'm working on. It's only us 4. I've got time to work this out. Everyone else is like "lol quicklynch time on Empking" which is fucking stupid but they're some sort of scum anyways. Empking's providing reasoning to help himself die for whatever reason. Espeonage doesn't give a fuck about anything that's going on. You came alive the past 2 days out of fucking nowhere with brilliant shining town reasoning. And Spyrex has the occasional wall of goodposting but otherwise nothing THAT helpful except "Let's sheep Magua". Nexus makes me doubt him in all sorts of ways but whatever his alignment is, he's a grunt of some sort. Thor and Locke are confirmed useless scum, both voting. There's a piece to this puzzle that leads to the pot of gold on the other side of the rainbow. If we're lucky and Espeo fits, great. If we're not, game over. Day started only 5 days ago. Also, just realized it was a 2 week deadline and I accidentally read 3. So it's until August 15th. I've got 9 days. If it takes that long to make a game-deciding verdict, then that's the time I'll take.

[Hinduragi]

He gives up easily as town or scum.

wat

And I've been reading, not posting. That's why I'm currently useless in contribution. Anyways CR is Spyrex. I can't type out why because I'm on break at work posting from my phone. I just saw the hammer and had to tell you I HAVE paid A LOT of attention to the game so I'm VERY SURE I'm right. I'll try to explain why before twilight ends when I get back home from work. If I don't make it in time, then I really don't think I have enough validity behind this for mafia to take my suggestion so sorry to the town. Also, Thor is a confirmed recruit. I can also explain this.

For the record, there never was a reason for me to stop the day and think about lynching Empking. This has been about who the mafia should shoot for the CR flip.

[Hinduragi]

No, Nexus. Did you see my post above yours?

[Hinduragi]

Now that I can actually quote without it taking 5 minutes...

Hinduragi is only one actively not helping.

Bullshit.

Now, the grand reveal. Shitstorm stirring time? YEP, LET'S GO.

[Hinduragi]

It was back on Saturday that you're all "Hold on guys let me figure this out," nothing happens, nothing happens Sunday, and then nothing happens Monday until Espeonage hammers, and *then* you're all, "OMG I've got the answer"?

Espeonage hammering kinda made me fucking post if you didn't notice. I would've liked more time but whatever.

And yes, I'm busy. I active lurk and don't respond to all the shit people post in a threat, especially when it isn't really relative to anything I care about. Locke unvoted, that was nice. Thor claimed cult in a post, that was nice but everyone knew it anyways and I could just point it out in my next post. You question him and get summarily basic answers. Then you repeated what you thought of everyone. Spyrex runs out of content and doesn't know what you want from him. Not exactly gamechanging contributions on which I should feel obliged to comment on when we have the rogue CR and buddies recruiting.



This

I was conflating my "recruited Warrior" hypothesis with my "recruiter can kill or recruit" hypothesis.

is the only thing where I could EVEN POSSIBLY see Esp as the CR. And a recruiter who can kill/recruit but chose not to N1...and used a dayshot on CyberSet, who had few votes at all, not a CR move.

Right, so you're gonna give us a grand reveal and lead us into the light? Alright Moses, I'll give you until the end of today.

You do realize that this is probably the first time we've ventured onto this topic, right? I want everyone's opinions on it, not just Magua's and whoever happens to log on before the hammer.

[Hinduragi]

A lot of this is simple PoE. More thought than typed went into the decision but hey, short and simple saves the day, right? If you take playstyles and personality into account, this conclusion makes the most sense.

2. Locke Lamora

Bogre

Locke Lamora

Not CR due to investigation.

3. Thor665

Not CR due to investigation.

9. Empking

Obviously not CR.

10. Magua

Rage at me = town self meta I asked for way back in D1 or D2. Yes, self-meta actually helps, even when the player giving it doesn't think it does.

11. Nexus

This guy is a VT, goon, or recruit. It doesn't matter. He's a small fry. His play indicates it. He's lurked and used the excuse "Well, so has Bogre/Locke". When he came under pressure, 2767 and 2772 are not CR posts. Would've been better content and less apologies, especially with his lurking. 2767 is what really gave it away. In both posts he was more or less focused on getting reads out there instead of defending himself. Like I said, he's a grunt-type role of some faction.

16. Hinduragi

If you think I'm still CR, you're probably

smoking some really good shit

a part of the cult

or both

. Yes, Thor and Spyrex, I'm looking right your way.

---

Which leaves us with only 2 left.

19. Espeonage

Maemuki

So, I assume we all agree Espeonage is a fucking liar. That much is obvious. Now, onto why he IS NOT the CR. We all remember Maemuki, right? Maybe we don't. Just look at her 4, yes, FOUR, posts. As soon as the MoI wagon turned dud, I LOCKED ON to that shit at Day 2 start. All four posts straight up claim scum in their own way. Maemuki didn't return, though. Instead, we got Espeonage. AND IN HE FLEW. Posting content like you wouldn't believe or...wait, that's not really that much content in the first post. But it looks like it is upon a glance. Which means it was intended to look like content. Espeonage has claimed and re-claimed as well. With this, you can assume he would like to survive. A CR or SK would want to survive at this point so both views are possible. So, that leaves us with his current play. He doesn't give a flying fuck if Empking is lynched and he dies. He WANTS to end the day. Sure, go ahead and give me some pure shit about this. "OH, BUT WHAT IF ESPEONAGE IS PRO?" No, he isn't. He doesn't gambit like this. Why? His survival play from earlier. His town self is passive aggressive, but usually only when being attacked. So he doesn't stir shit up or anything but will come at you if you provoke him. So, he doesn't like to play riskily. Why? He doesn't have that type of personality. His SK self wouldn't gambit on this to clear his ass. And neither would his CR self. Just from his play and how he words things, I can tell he's not the gambit'ing type from the above things.

15. SPyreX

Oh, Spyrex. You almost got away after flailing during D4 and I didn't even catch it. I wasn't sure if it was a town flail or not but I gave it the benefit of the doubt and went with a town flail. So, every other player is either obvscum but not cR, town, or is simply not CR. What I know best from this game is that Spyrex's scumgame is good, especially when he has an important scum role. I REALLY was about to just give up and go with Espeonage until I thought more and then the hammer, which was actually fake(but obviously wasn't intended to be fake), made me sure that Espeonage was a dead-end. So, by POe, I'm left with Spyrex. And, yes, I have figured out a way, however crazy, for him to be CR. What's better? It makes sense with Esp's behavior. First: why he' iS the CR. 1

2

3 - NOW, the deal with why I can tell that it isn't a town flail but CR flail. Yes, this will run borderline logic reasoning in being able to tell the difference because both will be similar-type survivalist mindsets. So, I came out in D4 with a knife up to Spyrex's throat. I was feeling good and thought I had his ass in the bag. He got off one post in which he was pretty defensive but I didn't get to push him. I replied to his post, or I think I did. And, soon after this, Benmage failclaimed FOR THE SECOND TIME. I got distracted and went with Faraday. I still mentioned Spyrex during this because he was tied to Benmage but for the most part, Spyrex was a side dish best served tomorrow. And OuT OF LEFT FIELD, SpyRex flies in. "YO, YOU SRS HINDU?" "Yes?" "So, everyone, Im unrecruitable"

Which is why I'm doing this now so nothing STUPID happens tonight and there should be gasps everywhere

So, town viewpoint: "GOTTA SAVE MYSELF" Cr viewpoint: "GOTTA SAVE MYSeLF AND MY FACTION"
Now for the blow of why Spyrex is CR. Why would town think a nk would end the game for their faction, save themselves by claiming, and THEN ask if LB(OBVTOWN at the time) is unrecruitable?(Especially when LB is obvtown because they think Benmage is scum) NO, HELL NO. That's just not town. Only a CR would be interested in that tidbit of info.

---

And thus, Spyrex must be CR. Yes, it's a gamble. But I like it a hell of a lot more than Espeonage doesn't-give-a-flying-fuck-about-the-game. If anything, Espeonage is a recruit(probably not) or is the guy who started off with the CR as a backup-CR.(More likely) By what Spyrex believes, CR started off with a buddy, just like I'm thinking. He should be considering the same thing right now but he isn't even trying to figure it out. This makes me more confident. I would like to ask anyone voting Empking to unvote right now so we can discuss this.

[Hinduragi]

Forgot to include why Thor was confirmed cult.

Unless we're seriously expecting some super awesome revelation

I say it's time to make them try to puzzle out their best shot.

The game-making decision, with EVERYONE'S faction riding on today's kill, and THAT is your answer? SORRY, NOPE, NOT BUYING THAT.

[Hinduragi]

Yes, I know.

[Hinduragi]

...


Try this: you wanted to end the day and let the cult decide. Fuck input on who they should shoot. Let's just leave them puzzled. Town doesn't want this. Scum sure as fuck doesn't want to have to figure it out all by themselves. Cult doesn't...oh wait.

[Hinduragi]

I'd rather have you just lynch me today. I pick dying over being one of those faggots.

....Why did you recruit me?