Mini 1228: 80's Mafia: Everyone wins. (Mod error)

[Maruchan]

/confirm

FIRSTPOSTGO

/endpwnage

[Maruchan]

This is Vanillaless right?

But Vanilla is so much better than chocolate or strawberry.

Thats unfair to the Vanilla.

[Maruchan]

Have fun with whatever your doing that makes you VLA!!!!

We await your return.


Quick question for the masses. Do we want to popcorn-claim massclaim our year?

[Maruchan]

Hai. just confirm? nothing else to say?

[Maruchan]

@Haola, if we do it popcorn-style we might catch a scum.

[Maruchan]

My point exactly.

thats 2 FOR yearclaiming, none against

[Maruchan]

1980

not like it really matters but ok

-.-

Can people no longer read?

I SAID FUCKIN POPCORN STYLE

ahh well to late now

1983 if I remember correctly here

[Maruchan]

Umbrage.
1. Votes right now dont count
2. There was a reason popcorn style was invented. Go read the wiki.
3. Sorry that I prefer when things are PLANNED and actually thought out rather than a jumble of incomprehendsion

[Maruchan]

(unless the mod messed up big time and chose one song from each year and scum are in the doubled years, in which case order won't matter anyway).

13 players, typical 10v3 setup, it is viable that there are no double years. I wanted all 13 year claims so I could examine this. if only 3-4 had double-claimed years, that would have been interesting information.

So Maruchan, you're town. Everyone knows this because..well...the mod told all of us that in our role PMs. This means you're going to be valuable to us in the early-game as a relatively unbiased source.

I would like this to be confirmed by 2 other players before I accept this as fact. If so I fuckin love this game.

So I'mma bounce ideas off u, k? Umbrage is the scummiest player so far: agree or disagree?

If you are indeed telling the truth that EVERYONE was given Maruchan-Confirmed-Town-Status, yes I will agree with you that Umbrage is scummy, why? Voting a fucking mod-confirmed innocent.


Also, if I am mod-confirmed innocent, you guys are going to love me if your town, and hate me if you're scum.

[Maruchan]

I think it has both townie cred and scum cred possibilities. The cred I ascertain to it however, depends on which he shows more of later.

It can show townie cred, because its shows he is at least ATTEMPTING to stem a bit more interaction then the general "/confirm"er, however it could be scum because scum would want to know why we should claim years, due to their year not being in the 80's. He could be wanting to know if I know something he doesn't about years of songs.

Overall, for now I'll call it null-town, and if others confirm your little tidbit that I am mod-inno, then I will call Umbrage scummy as fuck for (fake)voting a confirmed inno. Shows she probably doesn't know I am a confirmed inno (if I am), as scum PM wouldn't be told confirmed innos.


IF indeed I am mod-confirmed, I see what he meant when he said my custom-role could be overpowered. I told him it is only possibly over-powered in one situation, and that situation can't happen unless I am obvTown to the majority of the game.

[Maruchan]

What would be INTERESTING, is if I was only confirm-town to you. How likely do you think this possibility?

It would imply our roles have something dependant/in common/reliant on each other which would be interesting.

[Maruchan]

I don't see DeathRowKitty on that list?

[Maruchan]

nevermind found it.

I even looked for DRK and didn't see it.

I am blind

[Maruchan]

If I am only confirmed to you, I think Umbrage is basing a REAL vote off of way not enough game-material (yes that was a real vote. don't even try to let him say it was it was RVS)

[Maruchan]

Guys just because this is pregame doesn't mean you can't talk.

HELOOOOOOO

If the whole game is going to be this dead ,expect me to replace out in a week or so.

[Maruchan]

I don't see any reasons for or against it at this point as the cat is out of the bag as to my reasoning.

[Maruchan]

I have come to the conclusion that DRK is wrapping Maruchan around her fingers. Take a look:

So Maruchan, you're town. Everyone knows this because..well...the mod told all of us that in our role PMs.

It sounds like a joke gone too far. In fact, my initial thought was that DRK was reaction fishing.

However, if anyone can corroborate DRK's statement I will be happy to reexamine my beliefs.

And this is exactly why I asked for multiple people to back up her story.

Why won't massclaiming our year work? We still can look out for duplicate years.

I'm 1989.

I didn't say it wouldn't. I said I saw no more reasons for or against it, as now any third-party that might have gotten a 1980's number might claim a duplicate just to incriminate someone else. Maybe a Jester hoping to get them both lynched?

Maybe a lyncher hoping to get a target lynched?

However, it still leads to the scum, as my role PM said I am aligned with the 1980's songs, so I am guessing scum don't have a 1980's number, except in fakeclaim.

As such, I see neither reasons for nor against doing it anymore.

[Maruchan]

So Maruchan, you're town. Everyone knows this because..well...the mod told all of us that in our role PMs.

God dammit DRK you're not supposed to reveal the King this early now the assassins are gonna win.

Also HI NIKANOR <###

Also also I'm Total Eclipse of the Heart, and I'm a MILLERRRR.

...
Guessing some form of role that involves them having to act like a fool. JS.

[Maruchan]

10a) says that flavor is flavor. Do you think the year-massclaim is useful in this case?

If you read 10a in its entirety, it suggests to me that the flavor described in rule 10a would be kill-scene and lynch-scene flavor, not flavor in our role PMs. As we can't exactly ignore flavor in our role PMs, as the win condition is flavored.

[Maruchan]

So Maruchan, you're town. Everyone knows this because..well...the mod told all of us that in our role PMs.

God dammit DRK you're not supposed to reveal the King this early now the assassins are gonna win.

Also HI NIKANOR <###

Also also I'm Total Eclipse of the Heart, and I'm a MILLERRRR.

...
Guessing some form of role that involves them having to act like a fool. JS.

you are a jerk, ser.

♥♥♥

Was merely joking around, as per your Kind and assassins joke.

[Maruchan]

No no no I'm a jester you shouldn't lynch me or you will lose.

Only scum have room to gain by claiming an un-lynchable role gud ser!

[Maruchan]

Guys just because this is pregame doesn't mean you can't talk.

HELOOOOOOO

If the whole game is going to be this dead ,expect me to replace out in a week or so.

This post was made at 2 AM where I am, and most scummers are in my time or nearby. Are you really forcing people to post in the confirmation stage in the middle of the night?

Oh God, don't tell me you're going to be one of those assholes who tries to 'lead and unify' the town.

No. Yes it happened to be 2AM. But for the past 24 hours BEFORE that 2AM, nobody was posting.

[Maruchan]

OK, we lynch DRK. He flips town, Maruchan is confirmed.

And if he flips scum?

[Maruchan]

Umbrage, do you think I'm scum?

I have no idea.

OK, we lynch DRK. He flips town, Maruchan is confirmed.

And if she flips scum?

You die too.

Oh I see. So her buddying if she is scum was successful and convinced you all that I was scum.

Bravo DRK, Bravo. If you are scum you have successfully pulled off a buddying maneuver.

[Maruchan]

lol

[Maruchan]

DRK's PM could say I am confirmed town.

think about it.


any scum PM gives a bunch of PMs!!

[Maruchan]

EBWOP: Bunch of confirmed towns*

[Maruchan]

tis possible. js

[Maruchan]

IT IS!!!
HOW DID YOU KNOW!!!!


noijk

[Maruchan]

@Mod, have those who have NOT confirmed picked up their role PMs yet?

[Maruchan]

Yes, the latter is part of a standard town role, while the only way the former can happen is if you're scum.

And while we're on the subject, Maruchan is acting very scummy. At first he's all 'keep posting guys' then he stops and starts joking around. He's trying to look active without doing anything.

Look active without doing anything? The whole damn game is joking around, what do you expect me to do? I got people posting which was my goal. Now my goal is to figure out what the fuck DRK is up to and if she is doing it as a really really smart ploy to get me killed (Which is stupid cuz I am one of the weakest PRs ever made tbh) or is she just not noticing the insane amounts of buddying she is emitting.

TRYING to look active? I don't have to try. I AM active.

[Maruchan]

I
THINK
UMBRAGE
IS
MISTAKEN

amicooyet?

[Maruchan]

What the fuck, my posts keep disappearing!

@Mod: Have those who have yet to confirm picked up their role PMs yet?

[Maruchan]

!Mod: We should send out a mass to all players a link to the game

[Maruchan]

-so confused by that post-

[Maruchan]

What are you confused about? My shameless self-promotions? My decision to decide? My completely clearly-worded decision that I decided to decide?

the wording of the last 2-line sentence.

[Maruchan]

Yeah, scum don't buddy each other this blatantly. Maruchan is confirmed town. For now.

Ah see! We have hit upon the reason for my supposed scum. You're mis-using the scum tactic known as budding here btw.

Buddying is the tactic used by one scum member to make a second TOWN member look scummy. A scum member will buddy up to a town member all game, so when the scum member flips scum, the town member looks suspicious!

Scum don't buddy scum.

[Maruchan]

Hey there! I'm fully recovered from my weekend away and ready to start playing Has Day 1 started yet, or is it still pre-game?
On a side note, it looks like I missed RVS (or a close you can get to RVS in pre-game). Either way, some random questions can never hurt...
1. What is your favorite alignment?
2. What timezone are you in?
3. What's your favorite role?
To answer my own questions:
1. Town. The sense of satisfaction when you catch scum is priceless.
2. GMT +10
3. Doctor

On the whole Maru-conf-town thing, I'm guessing Maru is probably town. As Umbrage said, scum wouldn't buddy each other so obviously, especially this early in the game. Although I still wouldn't rule out the possibility of DRK being scum, trying to score town points with Maru (and the rest of the town).

Still pre-game. Yes, it appears there will be no RVS this game!
WOOOOOOO
lol
You can thank me later.
1. Third-Party, EXCLUDING SERIAL KILLERS. Serial Killers is a one-man scum team. But third party are fun to fuck with town with.
2. CDT, GMT-5 (Central time zone, USA. Usually 6 hours behind, but we're in DST)
3. The funnest role I have ever played is a VooDoo Lady. However thsi was on EM. SInce it was chat-based it had different mechanics. ANYWAYS. The VooDoo Lady is scum-aligned and picks ONE person, and choses a word. If that person says that word at all that day, INSTA-DEAD. I had a macro that allowed me to play Russian Roulette by typing !roulette 1 6, and then 6 people would say !roulette. I got the mall used to it pre-game, then once the game started I would do it again, and BAM my unsuspecting target dies. So much LOLS and trollage.
The funnest role I have played on-site is -CENSORED-. Sorry. I'm playing it right now.

[Maruchan]

Its the third time I have heard this argument, Scum supposedly answer questions so as to get off topic on useless tangents that distract town.

However, every time I have seen them asked, it causes town interaction, like so. The refusal to answer makes you curious, so you ask why, then they have to explain the nit starts back-and-forth.

[Maruchan]

Its the third time I have heard this argument, Scum supposedly answer questions so as to get off topic on useless tangents that distract town.

However, every time I have seen them asked, it causes town interaction, like so. The refusal to answer makes you curious, so you ask why, then they have to explain the nit starts back-and-forth.

Wouldn't it make more sense for the asker of the questions to be scum? Although I see your point, we shouldn't be getting into pointless arguments when we could be scumhunting.

@DRK - It says RQS is good, but only if you ask good questions.

/facedesk.

Yes I meant ask not answer

[Maruchan]

RQS TIME!

1. DRK, would you marry me?
2. DRK, would you marry me?
3. DRK, would you marry me?


RQS OVER

[Maruchan]

PERFECT PLAN IS IT NOT?!?!?!?!?

[Maruchan]

1. Where?
2. Where?

doh, for about 2 seconds I thought you were making a clever joke at my clever joke of a RQS.

[Maruchan]

@Maruchan
1. Where?
2. When?
3. Sure!

USA
Tomorrow
WOOT WOOT

@Captain Corporal, you're not as important as me.

[Maruchan]

Vote: Nikanor

RVS AHOY!!!!!!!

[Maruchan]

Damn I wanted to see what happens if I tried to call it RVS.

Unvote, Vote Mego

On another note, any non-roleblocking PR should visit me tonight. Just Saying. Investigative, tracking, watching, saving, any of it. I'll explain more D2 if you guys actually DO visit me tonight.

Also if anyone roleblocks me tonight. I WILL find you. And I WILL kill you.

[Maruchan]

PGO?

[Maruchan]

Paranoid Gun Owner: kills whoever targets them.

-.-
PGO is town-oriented and if I was town why would I tell town PRs to visit me? Totally. And why would I explicitly exclude roelblockers?

[Maruchan]

Scum don't buddy scum.

You saying that makes it all the more likely for scum to attempt to buddy scum, because they would want to pull something you wouldn't expect. Likewise, me pointing this out makes it less likely. And so on, and so forth. On a side note, would you like some wine?

Yes Yes I know, WIFOM. I am the master of the WIFOM argument. I was merely pointing out that by the definition of BUDDYING, it is impossible for scum to buddy another scum.

However scum CAN, and often ARE friendly towards each other.

But thats not buddying.

[Maruchan]

Softclaim?

its vanillaless.

♥

[Maruchan]

LOVERZZZZZZZZ?

[Maruchan]

DRK being a lover PLUS having a confirmed townie in her role PM seems unlikely

[Maruchan]

TMI!!!! XD

[Maruchan]

couch couch

I think my name is misspelled.

[Maruchan]

I'll ISO them both after my DEP Meeting, then post thought later

[Maruchan]

Home from DEP meeting. A bit too worn out to do any actual work for a little bit. I will ISO them both before I go to bed tonight.

[Maruchan]

No solid reads.

FoS: DRK and Maruchan

, but only because I'm totally paranoid.

If you gave a non-killing PR, visit me tonight to rid your FoS.

[Maruchan]

@Haola, scum are always unsure a lot because of the fact that they can't just stick a flag on someone saying "SCUM" right out of the bat. They have to watch what the town does and try to go along with the best false wagons without attracting to much attention.

[Maruchan]

You will see that I'm about to post a case against someone. I'm not wagoning.

No I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was merely trying to answer your question as to how it could be seen as scummy.

[Maruchan]

WHat he said^^^

He was waiting for reasons to become existent to post his case, so it wouldn't seem as week?

Vote: Haola

[Maruchan]

Unvote mego vote haoloa

Mustve gotten something wrong with my last vote

[Maruchan]

Ghostlin's roommate, Mirin, walks up to him that day, having found Ghostlin on his desk, half asleep in peanut containers and fruit rinds, apple cores and the like. "Ghosty?" He looks at him concernedly. "I have a solution to your problem with the jukebox. You can just go back in time with the new time machine I built in our backyard!"

"Let me guess, I need to go 88 miles an hour to use it?" Ghostlin yawns.

"Yup. And it runs on uranium." Mirin looked proud at himself.

"Sorry, Mir, but I don't have the seventy bijillion dollars I'd need to fill the gas tank. Also, I'd be directly ripping off another game currently being played in queue. We'll just have to continue to jump through this ill decided mess of randomly written plotholes together."

"Aww...."

I was about to say "You haven't been reading the BTTF game I am in have you?" XD

[Maruchan]

My name is haoala. No, 2birds, that is not true. I asked the first question because I didn't know what he wanted to massclaim the year for. Wouldn't you be curious yourself? I asked the second question because I thought no one doing it anymore (Pg 2 had no claims). On rereading, I realised that I was the one who stopped the claiming, my bad.

The people who have claimed:
Parabollocks (1980)
Mego (1980)
Maruchan (1983)
Nikanor (1983)
Umbrage (1984)
DRK (1986)
haoala (1989)

There were 2 pairs, therefore I think it is likely that "one-townie-per-year" is untrue.

I'm not liking 2birds' 293.

Mego+Nikanor+you scumteam?

pwned

[Maruchan]

If any of those three flips scum, I am lynching the other two out of pure spite.

[Maruchan]

Mego+Nikanor+you scumteam?

pwned

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Everyone already thinks you and mego and Nikanor is the only guy who is CCing my year.

you curious as to how I caught scum so fast?

[Maruchan]

Then there should be someone CCing my year, agreed?

There may be, not everyone has claimed yet.

[Maruchan]

Ahem.

Nikanor never even claimed his year, however I still believe its you three scumteam because pre-game you all discussed years or such, and therefore you knew what he WOULD claim if he HAD claimed, which he didn't.

/endgame

[Maruchan]

No, I just don't listen to music, so I didn't know that was a song. ^_^

Now it makes more sense.

[Maruchan]

That actually totally makes sense now, and makes me feel like a fool for calling him a jester.

[Maruchan]

inb4 claiming to not listen to music gets used against me as a scumtell?

[Maruchan]

I noticed the ISO Multiple, but I didn't notice the quote with link til you did it.

I thought people where just doing that themselves.

these are rlly coo new features.

[Maruchan]

what si bullshit about it?

if its useless why draw attention to yourself by going against the wishes of others?

just claim your year and nobody will give a fuck what it is. if everybody claimed IMEMDIATELY, guess what? IT WOULDNT DISTRACT US ANYNORE?

Wait...

Thats what you want right> For the year shit to not distract us from scumhunting?

Well...
The faster everybody does it, the sooner it is over, and the sooner we can stop discussing it. I don't see the problem here>?

[Maruchan]

Maruchan

:
Got excited when he was possibly mod-confirmed in every PM. Mostly disappeared when he figured out DRK was gambitting his ass off.

Summary

: Likely town. BABY COME BACK!

Any town-PR's that are NOT killing/roleblocking/jailing roles should still be on me tonight.

JS.

[Maruchan]

i want to be the leader of a mini theme review team now just so that i can impose a requirement that makes every game have a dayvig

Amen.

And then enforce a Post Restriction requirement on that Dayvig that the Dayvig must be used within either A: 4 of his posts after day-start, or B: 24 hours after day-start. Whichever comes first.

[Maruchan]

Nikanor, you're implying that you know my role? Please be my guest and take a shot. I doubt you will get it correct.

[Maruchan]

I will try and guess what you'll guess.

Paranoid Gun Owner? Wait...
Isn't that town-aligned?
And I am asking the TOWN ALIGNED PRs to visit me, when if I was a TOWN ALIGNED ALL PPL VISIT ME DIE PR, why would I encourage town PRs to visit me.....?
I think you're missing something......?
Nicetrythough

[Maruchan]

you are a reflex role cop.
or maybe reflex motivator?
duhhhhh

also i only thought that you were reflex vig until i thought HEY WAIT THAT MAXE NO SSENX AS TOWN LOLOL

I honestly have no clue what any of those roles are.......

[Maruchan]

AND I've played more than two games of mafia.

[Maruchan]

and whats a motivator?

[Maruchan]

Isn't reflex vig = PGO?

now that I know what the reflex means, I think so.

[Maruchan]

MARUCHAN ANSWER M QUESTION IT IS MOR INMPORTANT THA N MARUCAHND
ARE YOU A CUDDLY CAT

pedti yet

Nope not a cat. A different type of animal though.

[Maruchan]

haolalala i am the only one allowed to post unsuppoeted rhetoic stfu!!!

You can call me haoalalalala but please put the A before the L.
And I wasn't accusing you.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Motivator

Oh.

Nope, Not a reflex rolecop, reflex vig, nor reflex motivator.

Like I said, you won't guess it. But all town PRs should still visit me.

[Maruchan]

negative PR?

[Maruchan]

Yeah sure.

As long as you don't redirect me/roleblock me/kill me, or any variation of the three, I invite any and all PRs to visit me.

And if You roleblock me, I WILL find you. And I WILL kill you.

[Maruchan]

ALL town prs? No exceptions (other than those you listed? Are you very sure about this?

If it is on this page, not a variation of RBing(or RoleStopping)/JKing/Redirecting/Killing/AlignmentChanging, yes.

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... gory:Roles

Speaking of which, I think I might talk to Vi about making the Roles Categories much more user-friendly as a pet project of mine.

[Maruchan]

Maru, as town as I think you are, I'm not sure if I like the way you want everyone to target you. But scum prroobbaly wouldn't pull a move this obvious... But then again there's WIFOM. Eh, this is a theme game. Who knows what roles have been made.
DRK and Haoala still sit proudly on my scumlist.
Everyone, top scum. KGO

If I am town. listen to em and target me.
If I am scum, listen to me and investigate me and see I am scum.

winwin?

[Maruchan]

Maruchan, you want all PRs to visit you? At once?

yup.

Unless you are one of the ones listed.

[Maruchan]

Or maybe I die unless I am visited by a certain PR?

Remember, this is vanilla-less and a THEME GAME. I could be any number of weird things.

[Maruchan]

Maybe I also want the cops to confirm town me and the docs to protect me while I do it?


All-in-all, I am NOT just saying to do this to waste time. It is in town's best interest for all pro-town PRs (minus the ones listed) to visit me tonight.

[Maruchan]

^ Godfather?
Cops shouldn't waste their time getting inno's, they should be trying to gett guilties.
You keep saying "in the town's best interest" over and over. This is not pro-town play.

So I am a godfather, what use do I get from having EVERY PR target me other than yes to keep them from targeting other town. That is a possibility.

But trust me. They really should all visit me.

Especially a tracker. if a tracker visits me i'll lulz so hard.

[Maruchan]

Also, if you really are legit, if the scum have some sort of RBer, you're screwed.

Like I said, if I am RBed, I will find you.
And I will kill you.

If you think I am joking, I am not.

[Maruchan]

Maruchan, I agree with CC here. Clearing yourself via reflex actions won't do the town much good in the long run, if it's even possible. It's best to let people use their roles how they see fit, rather than having them all target you.

Trust me. I have an almost-gamebreaking-strategy if all PRs visit me tonight and there is a doctor in the game.

[Maruchan]

Like I said, if I am RBed, I will find you.
And I will kill you.

If you think I am joking, I am not.

Will your strategy still be gamebreaking if you are RBed?

It'll take an extra day, but Yes.

[Maruchan]

Maru, your "gamebreaking" plan isn't so good. Let me list a few possible scenarios for you, in order of likelyhood.
1) Scum kill you.

Then the point is moot as I am proven town, and I can no longer implement my strategy

2) You are RBed

Then I will find them and kill them. You seem to doubt me?

3) No-one visits you because you're PGO

Sigh haven't we already fucked this argument up the ass? PGO is town. I am asking all town-PRs to visit me. Why would town-killing role ask all the PRs to kill themselves? Are you really this stupid?

4) Everyone visits you and scum make no attempt to stop you

Then my plan will work

Basically, if town don't have a protective role that doesn't block, i.e. jailkeeper, you're screwed. Which makes it sound like your scum as scum wouldn't need to be protected because they're scum.

[Maruchan]

Don't like the idea of everyone visiting Maruchan. Mafia-alligned PGO or reflex role-cop? It's semi-bastard theme. I'm also curious as to how you have a game-breaking strategy when you don't know the set-up. If you're town-alligned reflex role-cop, then you may be able to figure one out, but I would've expected you to be macho and/or one-shot if that were the case.

You are all trying to guess my role and you will never guess it.

MY ROLE CAN NOT BE MADE FRO MANY COMBINATION OF MODIFIERS OR ROLES OR ANYTHING ON THE WIKI'S ROLE CATEGORY PAGE.

So stop trying.

[Maruchan]

claim year, 2birds.

Maybe Maruchan should just reveal what he is, since he's likely to be targetted by mafia tonight anyway, having proclaimed that he has a "gamebreaking" strategy. If we have a doc, great, if we don't, too bad.

Maruchan, would this be bad for your plan?

slightly, although not detrimental. It would be better I think if scum were wary of me and not sure what to expect.

This is officially the first time I've ever not been totally against a D1 full-claim. Like, I'm usually one of the strongest voices against them. That being said, I'd like to propose a full claim. Or at the very least, I want Maru to full claim.

^^^

[Maruchan]

KARMA CHAMELEON.

Want more than that?

[Maruchan]

Well lets see if everyone wants more than that.

[Maruchan]

^^^^^^

[Maruchan]

Why is there rolefishing and full claiming proposals going on now?

Because Maru claimed to have a near-gamebreaking strategy. And if there's something that will help us win, I want to know about it.

You don't need non-Maruchan claiming or fishing for that. If you believe Maruchan, you don't want the mafia to know who's who.

also my possible game-breaking strategy depends on who visits me tonight, IE: Me asking everyone to visit me.

[Maruchan]

As long as ALL TOWN PRS visit me as I mentioned, and if this includes the PR that I THINK is in this game, I should be able to relatively break it.

[Maruchan]

Yeah, my song is from 1983, let's blow a hole in this idea now.

Gah I also forgot that scum would say that too.

This is a vanillaless game, I honestly doubt there's gonna be a way to break it.

I thought that's precisely why a gamebreaking strategy is possible.

this at the second half.

[Maruchan]

I will change my votes once someone tells me that they agree trow's points were fallacies and nowhere near benign true, or he concedes to me. either or. until then he gets my vote.

[Maruchan]

diddin as scum wouldn't claim 1989, he would claim something else, so that is null.

How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.

By the way, someone can't just claim to have a gamebreaking strategy that requires us all to visit them and then not tell us what it is. If the scum can ruin it, they already will, and we need to know.

well thats a nice gambit.

If DRK is scum, Maru is scum.
If DRK is town, Maru is null.

Good to know this. If I ever play a game against you again, and I am scum, I will use this gambit on a townie.

Its win-win.

[Maruchan]

diddin as scum wouldn't claim 1989, he would claim something else, so that is null.

How in the hell would lynching DRK confirm Maru? It was a GAMBIT. DRK has no mod confirmation that Maru is town.
If DRK were to flip scum, then they're probably gambitting scum. But if DRK flipped town (most likely scenario), Maru would be exactly where he is now.

By the way, someone can't just claim to have a gamebreaking strategy that requires us all to visit them and then not tell us what it is. If the scum can ruin it, they already will, and we need to know.

They can't. This is why it is game-breaking.

The only way it can be ruined s if a role which I am 80% sure is IN this game, is not in this game. And if that is true, then tomorrow I will tell you it doesn't work, and I will claim if still asked. If I get roleblocked, it will take 1 extra day.

[Maruchan]

WOW I FAIL SO MISERABLY. sorry guys, one of those replies I typed from my phone and the other from a school computer and I didn't realize I was quoting the same post. -.-

[Maruchan]

SHUT UP. THE LESS INFORMATION WE HAVE, THE BETTER.

If people were willing to blindly follow me (like you apparently are, which makes me think mafiaroleblocker?) then I wouldn't need to claim specifics, but they feel the need to question me, so I have to give more info.

[Maruchan]

I actually don't disagree with that vote so much. where is my vote now?

[Maruchan]

I honestly off of the top of my head can't tell you exactly who I think what about in this thread. Unfortunately, the first time I will REALLY have a chance to re-read would be Saturday, so I am pretty much on-board for "Following the Crowd" this lynch and pretty much being the hammer on anyone that needs hammering.

[Maruchan]

(no offence to you Maru, but I do believe the majority of the town wasn't/isn't willing to put that much trust in your plan)

Then if you are the one role that my plan depends upon, then you're gonna fuck it over for town.

Whats the worst that can happen, you all visit me, and since scum are afraid of my plan they try to kill me/roleblock me, and tomorrow either A:they tried to kill me and since ALLTOWNLISTEND I was docsaved, or B: I was roleblocked and we lynch the roleblocker.

[Maruchan]

The only way it can be ruined s if a role which I am 80% sure is IN this game, is not in this game. And if that is true, then tomorrow I will tell you it doesn't work, and I will claim if still asked. If I get roleblocked, it will take 1 extra day.

So we have a 80% chance of failure. Wow.

lrn2math.

20% chance of failure, and if that 20% chance of failure is true, you will know it by tomorrow. as long as everyone visits me tonight.

[Maruchan]

Oops misread.

If you get roleblocked, will you claim if asked?

Yup. But first I'll kill the person that RBed me.

[Maruchan]

^^^

[Maruchan]

HAMMER INCOMIN IN LESS THAN 2 HOURS UNLESS SOMEONE TELLS ME NOT TO

[Maruchan]

Sorry I was doing an 8-page catchup.

VOTE: Umbrage

[Maruchan]

im a hatin this 24 hr before flip.

js

[Maruchan]

@Maruchan: That was a joke. I'm not sure if you took it seriously or not, but it wasn't meant for you to.

@Nikanor: I'm waiting to see what the mod does to you. It will probably be hilarious, and involve Barbies.

@Nikanor ^^^^
@Mego I know, but I felt like I should still justify why i didn't do it when I said I would.

[Maruchan]

2birds1stone(1, L-6) Nikanor
DeathRowKitty (1, L-6)- Zajnet

Parabollocks (1, L-6)- Nikanor
Not Voting (2)--Zajnet, DeathRowKitty

Parabollocks (1, L-6)- Nikanor, Zajnet

Or mod just made an error

[Maruchan]

@Mod, did you make an error in the vote count?

[Maruchan]

I gave you three hours, and you had plenty of time to claim before I hammered. I also stated any wagon needing hammering would be able to get my vote as a hammer, so you had plenty of time to claim. Notmyfaulthun

If you want to blacklist me for lynching you? lol lrn2mafia. Also, I don't give a shit, that just makes YOUR life harder, as you'll have to replace out of any game I am in, not mine.

[Maruchan]

He had plenty of advance warnign knowing I would willingly hammer him.

He knew he was at l-2 and then l-2

[Maruchan]

Vote:Diddin

You know why

[Maruchan]

Diddin is anti-town.

[Maruchan]

Vote diddin before you do

[Maruchan]

Nope Diddin is scum jailkeeper.

[Maruchan]

LMFAO AT UMBRAGE BLACKLISTING ME FOR SUCCESSFULLY HAMMERING THE MOST MOTHERFUCKING POWERFUL SCUM PLAYER WITHOUT ALLOWING HIM TO CLAIM WHICH WOULD HAVE KEPT HIM FROM GETTING LYNCHED


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[Maruchan]

Out of my own integrity, I'm not going to count this game as a win or loss. Seems to be the best thing for me.

This will forever be marked in my completed games as neither.

However, I do love my role.

BASICALLY, if doctor docced me, I would recieve a PM saying "You have targetted player (DOCNAMEHERE) with your doc abilities.

if cop investigated, I would recieve you have targeted (COPNAMEHERE) with your cop abilitied, you have determiend your target to be town aligned.


and so forth.

my game-breakign was dependant on a doctor type role, as him on me every night = me+him SUPERDUPERGROUPSAVEOFLOVINGNESSS

[Maruchan]

Weak Doctor makes that not game-breaking, as does roleblocking the Doctor if he is found.

Weak Doctor if he had listened to me, I would have found out and his weakness would have been unimportant

[Maruchan]

WOW IDIOT TOWN NEVA LISTENS

[Maruchan]

OH DAMN NIKANOR I DIDNT EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT


Weak Doctor=DeathCop+Doctor allinone package.

ZOMGAWESOMENESS!!!!!!!!!

[Maruchan]

DRK YO UBETTA NOT MISS OUR MARRIAGE!!!!!!!

[Maruchan]

My favorite part is getting blacklisted for hammering scum.


lmfao.

[Maruchan]

My favourite part was when Mego sent me an abusive PM.

Yea, so you forwarded it to the mod to get him modkilled before you died

[Maruchan]

lol thatbu. You ask everyone to PM you hoping you can get all of town modkilled. ingenous ploy there.