Mini 1228: 80's Mafia: Everyone wins. (Mod error)

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/CONFIRM IN CAPS

I ALSO LIKE TO TEMPT THE MOD'S WRATH AND HAVE FORGOTTEN THE MOD CAN ADD STUFF TO THE END OF MY POSTS, SUCH AS 'I WEAR PRETTY PRETTY DRESSES.'

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I CLAIM RULE 13 BREAKER!

1984 btw.

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VOTE: Maruchan for being a claiming ritual snob.

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Umbrage.
1. Votes right now dont count
2. There was a reason popcorn style was invented. Go read the wiki.
3. Sorry that I prefer when things are PLANNED and actually thought out rather than a jumble of incomprehendsion

1. I know that.
2. Do you honestly find some people scummier than others at this point?
3. Now you're just being uptight.

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Guys just because this is pregame doesn't mean you can't talk.

HELOOOOOOO

If the whole game is going to be this dead ,expect me to replace out in a week or so.

This post was made at 2 AM where I am, and most scummers are in my time or nearby. Are you really forcing people to post in the confirmation stage in the middle of the night?

Oh God, don't tell me you're going to be one of those assholes who tries to 'lead and unify' the town.

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Also: What's your opinion of me now that you know you're not confirmed town?

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OK, we lynch DRK. He flips town, Maruchan is confirmed.

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Umbrage, do you think I'm scum?

I have no idea.

OK, we lynch DRK. He flips town, Maruchan is confirmed.

And if he flips scum?

You die too.

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Yup.

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DRK, either agree to be lynched or stop saying Maruchan is town, 'K?

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Oh, is it Day 1 now?

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The first game-related issue is that Umbrage makes no sense. Umbrage, why would you lynch one player you don't think is scum to clear another player you don't think is scum? To put this in perspective a bit, imagine this the other way around. Let's say Player A is a one-shot cop with a guilty result on Player B. If you don't think Player A is scum and you don't think Player B is town, do you lynch Player A to confirm that Player B is scum? No? Good. Then we're on the same page. Stop being an idiot.

Let me clarify: I don't think either of you are more likely to be scum than anyone else. There's a big difference between thinking someone isn't scum and having no reason to suspect them. Are you claiming cop? If not, you have no business stating Maruchan is town and expecting us to believe you.

And while you're busy unvoting me based on the sudden cathartic realization that you make no sense, you should probably give an opinion on something. You've been one of the more active posters thus far, yet all you've done is
1) complain about Maruchan's claim procedures and activity expectations
2) push for my lynch for reasons that don't make sense and are unrelated to who is or isn't scum

Oh, so you have a problem with me calling out Maruchan's actions as scummy? Interesting.

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Yes, the latter is part of a standard town role, while the only way the former can happen is if you're scum.

And while we're on the subject, Maruchan is acting very scummy. At first he's all 'keep posting guys' then he stops and starts joking around. He's trying to look active without doing anything.

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Yes, the latter is part of a standard town role, while the only way the former can happen is if you're scum.

Yeah, how silly to think that a mod has the right to make whatever roles he wants. I forgot mods in theme games are limited to just cop, doc, and goons. Also, you've never heard of innocent child, have you?

Maruchan, role info or not, is obv-town and, unlike you, he has actually been looking for scum. But I'll humor you for a second. Your previous post implied that you've called Maruchan's actions scummy before and I believe you 254%. Can you just remind me where you did so?

Do I have to spell it out for you?

I
THINK
YOU
ARE
SCUM.

I
THINK
MARUCHAN
IS
SCUM.

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Maru isn't scum, neither is DRK.

VOTE: Parabollocks

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Yeah, scum don't buddy each other this blatantly. Maruchan is confirmed town. For now.

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Paranoid Gun Owner: kills whoever targets them.

VOTE: haola

That bullshit math was scummy as hell. And pushing for DRK's lynch. We're not lynching DRK, not yet, and not based on some weird WIFOM. Why are you trying to fight this?

Yeah, scum don't buddy each other this blatantly. Maruchan is confirmed town. For now.

Ah see! We have hit upon the reason for my supposed scum. You're mis-using the scum tactic known as budding here btw.

Buddying is the tactic used by one scum member to make a second TOWN member look scummy. A scum member will buddy up to a town member all game, so when the scum member flips scum, the town member looks suspicious!

Scum don't buddy scum.

I've seen scum buddy scum.

Too much useless discussion.
Not enough death.
Get with the lynching already.

That's not a haiku, you know.

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Hello? You were the one who first suggested lynching DRK. I'm not even pushing for her lynch. I'm exploring the possibilities.

If Maruchan is conf town as you all seem to agree, then as PGO why would he ask people to target him? Btw, when roleblocker targets PGO who wins?

Exactly. You're not overtly pushing the lynch, you're testing the waters. You want to know which way town will go before you make a firm stance.

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OK, where are we at?

Mego... hm. I get the feeling he's scum. Nothing concrete to support this, he just seems a little too casual and jokey. Consider this an FoS, but I'm sticking with my haoala vote for now.

@ haoala: You just wanted to see how DRK responded to what? The implication that he was scum? I already said that, what other reaction were you looking for?

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Nikanor is so jokey he goes beyond jokey. He's on speed or something. Regardless, his attitude is honest. He's not TRYING to be silly, he IS silly.

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And Mego is

trying

?

Yep.

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Haoala wagon is better than Mego wagon. STEP INTO THE LIGHT.

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MWAHAHA AND MEGO BUDDIES HAOALA.

GAME SET AND MATCH.

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@ DRK: Oh, I never dropped you two from my list of suspects. I just don't think you're scum TOGETHER.

Nikanor is so jokey he goes beyond jokey. He's on speed or something. Regardless, his attitude is honest. He's not TRYING to be silly, he IS silly.

Oh and this is nonsense.

I caught you tunneling on Mego

, and you say Nikanor is "beyond jokey".

lol

No solid reads.

FoS: DRK and Maruchan

, but only because I'm totally paranoid.

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is very accuse-happy and not making that much sense in her logic, so she's also

FoS

. I don't have much of an opinion on the haoala wagon, but I have a theory: hoala and Captain Corparal have hydra'd together very recently;

if

they're not both scum, would this not allow them to give more accurate reads on each other?

If we can confirm one of them, we may get a better read on the other.

I'm less confident in my vote on Nikanor than I was, but I don't see any point in changing it as of yet; he's not close to a lynch.

Everyone else is FoS because they're not me.

lol

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And now Mego gets defensive, locks into his one scumread.

VOTE: Mego

Mego and haoala. Let's git dem.

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I don't get your bolding Umbrage.

You said I tunneled on Mego. That caused much lulz to me.

VOTE: Umbrage

1. Very trigger happy. Has voted 5 times today. 4 of which are non-random.

2. I think the reasoning about Mego being scum because he's jokey but not Nikanor because he's too jokey is rubbish. I pointed this out but he has not responded to this.

3. 241 shows that basically he will accuse anything and everything that his accussee does.

4.

Haoala wagon is better than Mego wagon.

Yet he ends up changing his vote to Mego. Which means that he did not mean the above. Inconsistent.

5.

Mego... hm. I get the feeling he's scum.

Nothing concrete to support this

, he just seems a little too casual and jokey. Consider this an FoS, but I'm sticking with my haoala vote for now.

Nothing much has changed since then, and still he votes Mego eventually. If you thought we were scumbuddies, why not keep your vote on me? Or is it difficult for you to remain consistent, since you know we are not scumbuddies?

6. His last 6 posts have contributed nothing, beginning from here. It's been a lot of screaming "haoala & Mego are scumbuddies!"

@Diddin, please answer this.

1. It's RVS, twat.

2. I'm not going to respond to it. If you think it's rubbish, that's your right, and there's nothing I can do to change your mind. I've already explained it, I'm not repeating myself.

3. lol

4. Mego's where the wagon is.

5. Did you miss the part where he blatantly buddied you?

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So, am I the only one that thinks it's really funny that haoala suddenly appears with a case on me when I attack his buddy Mego?

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If the boot fits...

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^Explain to me, very simply, and with reason (and preferably quoting), why Haoala and Mego are scumbuddies.

haoala does some bullshit with DRK.
I attack haoala.
Mego defends haoala.
I attack Mego.
haoala defends Mego.

Also: haoala's 'case' on me is still lol.

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Nice try.

You play a game with a person you have never played with before, and you think he is scum based simply on how he acts? This is so flawed I don't even.

Die scum die.

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You play a game with a person you have never played with before, and you think he is scum based simply on how he acts? This is so flawed I don't even.

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YES.

IF YOU ACT SCUMMY, I THINK YOU'RE SCUM.

THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.

IT'S CALLED SCUMHUNTING.

VOTE: Mego

I'm beginning to think Nikanor is jester.

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Vote: Umbrage

Unexplained votes are my favourite kind of votes.

You play a game with a person you have never played with before, and you think he is scum based simply on how he acts? This is so flawed I don't even.

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YES.

IF YOU ACT SCUMMY, I THINK YOU'RE SCUM.

THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE.

IT'S CALLED SCUMHUNTING.

Scummy behavior is different for each person. While one person may act completely serious as scum, another may attempt to drag the game off into pointless tangential discussion. Having never played with me before, you have no idea what my scum behavior is and what my town behavior is. Simply going off of so-called "typical cases" is sure to backfire on you, because no mafia player is typical.

tl;dr: You can't say a player is acting scummy when you have never interacted with them before because everyone is unique and snowflakes and Santa Claus and etc.

Uh, yes you can. That's called scumhunting. Yes, some tells are unique to certain people, but we're all human. Some things are universal. Besides, when it comes to haoala, I'm not nitpicking his behaviour, I'm talking about his intent.

Also consider that, after I corrected you about who I was referring to in that quote, you

still

insisted I was scum, despite the only semi-real evidence you have was that quote when interpreted horribly incorrectly. You changed your evidence to fit the conclusion you wanted. That's bad.

No, I think you're scum because you protected haoala and OMGUSed me.

A player's behavior is not inherently scummy. It is only by applying meta knowledge of the player to their behavior that allows the behavior to be classified as scummy or not. Not all players act the same, even with identical roles. Therefore, saying one behavioral quirk is scummy for all players is logically impossible, because there will be at least one player who acts that way as town.

Get out. If you believe that shit, this game clearly isn't for you.

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I think DRK needs a hug.

*huggle*

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It's an excuse to not vote. Parabollocks probably didn't know which of the major wagons to jump upon. Can you think of a town motivation for that?

Um... checking to make sure he doesn't hammer anyone?

Is this really your biggest lead so far?

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Unvote

The only thing I like better than votes without reason is unvotes without reason.

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Use capital letters?

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I'd prefer a Mego lynch to a haoala lynch simply because haoala's doing more in terms of scumhunting, so it's a lower risk. I'm good with either though.

i'm targeting umbrage tonight

I'll bring flowers. Wait, you're not a vig, are you?

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Excuse me, why are there people voting against Maruchan's plan?

HE'S FUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN.

FoS: Captain Corporal, 2birds1stone

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Excuse me, why are there people voting against Maruchan's plan?

HE'S FUCKING CONFIRMED TOWN.

There was confirmation?

Unless you think DRK and Maruchan are the scum, yes.

Captain Corporal and haoala are on the same scumteam. Look at them, they're chatting like this is a QT.

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I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT THIS PEOPLE.

I HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT MARUCHAN.

WE SHOULD TRUST MARUCHAN.

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Zajnet, you are doing really useful things in this game.

NOW LET'S LYNCH MEGO AND HAOALA AND CAPTAIN CORPORAL AND WIN THIS GAME. BOOYAH.

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Or, you could win by following THE UMBRAGE AND MARUCHAN SUPER TOWNIE WIN MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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This one, no, and it makes no sense for DRK to lie. If you're not convinced, we can still lynch DRK. Then if she's town, we follow Maruchan's plan. It's a win-win scenario.

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Why is there still bullshit about years and claiming?

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Why is there still bullshit about years and claiming?

I'm stalling to avoid my lynch.

Ah, OK then.

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Good. Let's do some useful shit now.

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Yeah, but that'll mean an extra step. I want to win this game NOW.

1: Lynch Mego.
2: Maruchan does awesomeness.
3: Lynch haoala.
4: Maruchan and Umbrage combine their powers to create a force of epic town power that will destroy all remaining scum BOOYAH.

WHO'S WITH ME?

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I don't like the way Umbrage is so pro-Maruchan. However, if Maruchan turns out wrong, Umbrage will just get lynched for it.

This is bullshit. Why the fuck would you blame me for a plan that I don't understand failing? Do you think Maruchan's scum? Do you think I'm scum? If not, shut your face and vote Mego.

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SHUT UP. THE LESS INFORMATION WE HAVE, THE BETTER.

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If he told us what the plan is, the scum could interfere with it. The less we know, the better.

I'm not asking you to trust me, I'm asking you to trust Maruchan. I see no reason why we shouldn't.

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This is a chain of lies, yelling, and pushing to the effect of "go along with Maruchan" and "do what I say". Forget Maruchan. Forget whether Maruchan is trustworthy. Answer the question. If the Maru-plan fails, you don't think there'll be anything suspicious about you? That doesn't make any sense.

That is probably the biggest load of shit I've seen in a while.

Let's deal with the 'lies' first.

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When have I lied? You don't say.

Now for the pushiness. I'm supporting confirmed town. Do you have any reason to doubt Maruchan is confirmed town? If not, then you should be on my side.

Finally, no, there's no reason to suspect me if the plan fails. Mainly because it isn't my plan. I don't know anything about it. But confirmed town is for it. Ergo, it is 100% better than any other plan.

You're trying to fight against the plan: why? Do you think Maruchan is scum? Because you're not saying that, and that is the only reason not to go along with this plan.

VOTE: benoni

Only scum would try and fight a potentially game-breaking plan created by confirmed town.

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@ 2birds1stone: Just about everything I've done has been an attempt to move the game forward: encouraging Maruchan's plan, and pushing a lynch on Mego and haoala. Burden of Proof is on you to show otherwise.

@ Mego: So every statement that comes out of my mouth is a lie, hm? Then why are you too chickenshit to quote me and prove me wrong? Are you afraid of The Retard, you shit-eating scum? Educate me oh mentally perfect one. Go on, tell the gimp where he went wrong. We retards don't learn otherwise. You've got to take a big fat quote of mine and prove it's false. So: what are you scared of, you sewage-dwelling piss-drinking animal-fucking asshole? You gonna let one little retard make you look like a fool?

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Yes, I will be lynched by everyone who thinks I'm scummy. Oh wait, that's just you and Mego. Nevermind then.

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Wrong again... The whole pattern here has been you deliberately confusing everything you don't agree with, and refusing to discuss with any intelligence the things you do agree with. It's like your strategy is to foil townplay by being deliberately wrong. And loud. And annoying. Shutting down discussion of anything other than whatever ridiculous unjustified idea you've gotten onto.

Make an intelligent post, I'll make an intelligent response.

I have yet to see you or Mego point out one example where I lied.

Until you prove otherwise, you two are the liars.

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Dude, this game would be totally dead without me. Have the brains to recognize a good thing when you see it.

Why am I not voting Mego? VOTE: Mego

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That's out of context. I complained about Maru when I doubted him.

NOW I'VE SEEN THE LIGHT.

MARUCHAN WILL GUIDE US TO VICTORY.

BELIEVE. BELIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEVE.

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No, I'm not scum that'll back down on a wagon when I'm called out on having no reasoning.

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So much screaming, so much AtE, so much vote-hopping. VOTE: Umbrage

You quoted me once in that post, and that was only because you were pissed that I forgot you attacked me earlier.

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You're just mad that you're not in the Cool Townie Club.

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Explain to me what you think AtE is.

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Umbrage, either agree to be lynched or stop saying Maruchan is town, 'K?

My being town doesn't make Maruchan more town, so I'm not sure what you're getting at here, other than I imitated you, so now you want to imitate me.

To summarize, Umbrage is acting like a 7-year-old child.

At least I'm not acting like the poor man's Dr. Phil.

His posts aren't conveying any sense of sarcastic humor. They're conveying hypocrisy and idiocy. Also scumminess.

I thought I was conveying my dire need for you to support your case with quotes, but whatever.

Umbrage's posts 528 & 530 are laughable. My turn to LOL.

OK. But again, unless you, you know, actually EXPLAIN your case, you're laughing alone buddy.

Umbrage. Post your case on Mego, or Haoala, or whoever your top scumread is. No messing around, no AtE.

I did. Pages ago. Learn to read.

Now all of you clowns post actual cases on me. No messing around, no AtE. (OH LOOKE I DID IT AGAIN)

(HINT: They're not going to post cases, they're going to continue shouting their new favourite acronym until I go away. Watch as I'm proved psychic.)

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You dumbfucks actually lynched me? After all I did for you? Without letting me claim?

Most of you are going on my blacklist for this, I've never seen shittier play.

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Maruchan, if you are town, you're going on my blacklist for this.

I happen to be a JOAT. Probably the most powerful PR in the game. Go back to newbie games until you learn to ASK FOR A CLAIM BEFORE HAMMERING.

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I gave you three hours, and you had plenty of time to claim before I hammered. I also stated any wagon needing hammering would be able to get my vote as a hammer, so you had plenty of time to claim. Notmyfaulthun

If you want to blacklist me for lynching you? lol lrn2mafia. Also, I don't give a shit, that just makes YOUR life harder, as you'll have to replace out of any game I am in, not mine.

You don't seem to be getting the point. I don't give a shit that you lynched me. I don't give a shit that you forgot to wait for me to claim. That's forgivable, everyone makes mistakes. But you don't seem to get how hammering someone who has not claimed is THE STUPIDEST FUCKING THING YOU CAN DO. If you're scum, good move. No hard feelings. But if you're town, YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT.

MY LAST POST WAS AT 11. YOU HAMMERED AT 9. DON'T YOU DARE TRY AND BLAME ME FOR YOUR FUCKUP. I DON'T CHECK THE THREAD CONSTANTLY. TWO HOURS IS NOT ENOUGH TIME.

FOR FUCK'S SAKE I WASN'T EVEN AT L-1 AT MY LAST POST.

I will fucking tell every single mod of every single game you /in for the shit you pulled here. If by some miracle you get accepted, I will /in for the Once this game is over, you aren't going to last a single day. Your presence on this site is over, asshole.

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Not opinion. Fact. You screwed up. I'm sure it's easier to convince yourself that I'm a big bad meanie, but if you ever want to play another game, you better face facts and admit you were wrong.

Look, I don't care what you think about me. But when you pull shit like this, it ruins the game. Nobody wants to play with loose cannons.

PM me if you want to apologize. Otherwise, I think we're done here.

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*goes to Blacklist thread*

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My favourite part was when Mego sent me an abusive PM.

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My favorite part was the Um

RAGE

about everything and then nobody caring what he had to say.

Just saw this, lol.

If everyone's talking about me, I think they care.

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My favourite part was when Mego sent me an abusive PM.

Yea, so you forwarded it to the mod to get him modkilled before you died

Rules are rules, and trolls need to pay.