The MafiaScum Minecraft Thread - AllTheMods 9!!! - NEW Vanilla?

[UltimaAvalon]

I actually have an issue where I can't cut down trees without the game running out of memory. I've been meaning to mess around with it, but there's too many games out right now

[Isa]

So I noticed that my username was not on the whitelist...?

IsaInterguild <-- My username. Any other needed information before you let me on?

[Claus]

UA > Strange, I haven't had memory issues yet. But Jeb has posted a list of things he has already fixed, and memory leaks are among them.

On other news, after 1.8 is properly released and we update our server, UA might consider using this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comme ... on_171819/

A tool to smooth out the crazy edges that appear between versions.

[My Milked Eek]

The only letdown so far is the exclusion of smooth stairs. Everything else is pretty awesome. Especially the lighting and sprinting.

[Untrod Tripod]

maybe it's been fixed by now, but when I was playing it I found it to be incredibly poorly optimized

[Rhinox]

So I've been reading about strongholds. Apparently the pre-release 1.8 has only 1 spawned stronghold per world (which is being upped to 3 for the actual 1.8). Also, apparently they're like dungeons in that the seed determines where they spawn and is the same for every new world created with the same seed. They also are nearish the spawn point (as in ~500 blocks away). So what I'm thinking is, if the stronghold is supposed to spawn in a chunk that we've already explored on the server world, we might not get a stronghold

(Strongholds being different from NPC villages, dungeons, and mineshafts - basically they are a super dungeon and apparently going to be an (the?) objective once minecraft becomes more game-like)

Just wondering if this has any bearing on whether we need to start a new server world from scratch for 1.8...

[Claus]

There is still a lot of speculation out there.

Also, apparently they're like dungeons in that the seed determines where they spawn and is the same for every new world created with the same seed.

I have seen at least one thread in reddit where this was shown to be false (two worlds generated with the same seed, where one had a stronghold in a given location, and the other hadn´t). I guess we need to wait and see.

[UltimaAvalon]

UA > Strange, I haven't had memory issues yet. But Jeb has posted a list of things he has already fixed, and memory leaks are among them.

On other news, after 1.8 is properly released and we update our server, UA might consider using this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comme ... on_171819/

A tool to smooth out the crazy edges that appear between versions.

Didn't that have an issue with sea levels?

[Claus]

No the issue with sea levels is native to 1.7/1.8 (1.8 sea level is one below 1.7 or something like that). The guy who made the ¨best of both worlds¨ is trying to find a workaround.

[Chronopie]

And the rumour mill says 1.9 will break the generation

again

. Joy. /sarcasm

[Claus]

Stop whining We were just talking about a tool that smooths out the hard edges, if you were following the links.

[Rhinox]

So I decided to try out the 1.8 pre-release... spawned on an island in the middle of an ocean. Found 1 tree on a neighboring island. Chopped it down and built a boat. Gone a thousand blocks north and still haven't found land yet O.O

[tanstalas]

So I decided to try out the 1.8 pre-release... spawned on an island in the middle of an ocean. Found 1 tree on a neighboring island. Chopped it down and built a boat. Gone a thousand blocks north and still haven't found land yet O.O

Did you run into this guy yet?

Spoiler:

[Rhinox]

Yeah thats pretty much the feel of it.

Eventually I've found swamps, forest, and deserts. No mountains yet. I did find 1 NPC village. I abandoned the the first world I created after falling down a dark hole and not being able to get out and no torches or tools anyways. Started a new creative world with a new seed, same thing, spawned on an island in the middle of the ocean. Eventually found some land but idk they don't seem like big land masses. Like, they're kinda skinny land masses that keep going but there is the large ocean on either side. Too small to give a continental feeling. I'm expecting to find a land mass as big as the oceans I'm crossing. By the way those oceans are deep and kinda creepy if you sink down in them.

[Claus]

Man, you are unlucky with seeds. Try the seed I'm playing with: "Vlachia"

You will spawn near two spires between a small sea an an inland lake, a large plain to the south and some amazing mountains to the south. In one of the mountains there is a giant lava fall coupled with a giant waterfall.

[UltimaAvalon]

Do you happen to have either seed you used? I love ocean worlds

[Rhinox]

The first one was deleted but I think I used as a seed: 1.8 Trial

Second one I can get you for sure from the F3 screen when I get home but I'm pretty sure it was: Trees Please

But yeah I can get you the number seed from the F3 screen for sure later.


Oh by the way in case everyone hasn't noticed yet they released a v2 to the pre-release, supposed to have fixed a bunch of the bugs so far like the memory leak and the furnace thing. Here's the link: http://www.minecraftforum.net/news/220- ... available/

[UltimaAvalon]

Turns out it was a 64-bit OS issue, and installing 64-bit Java has (so far) fixed my out of memory issue.

[Untrod Tripod]

OH MY GOD

64 BIT JAVA LITERALLY OCTUPLED MY FRAME RATE

OCTUPLED

[DonJosh]

WEEEEEEEEEE 1.8

[My Milked Eek]

Yeah, 1.8. Update pls :3

[Rhinox]

yay

P.S. I tried the seed: mountainclimber last night, hoping to get some mountains

Well, I didn't get any mountains right away, but at least I spawned on land. What was cool is I kinda spawned at a triple point - a point where 3 biomes came together, there was desert, normal forest, and pine forest biomes. Then I walked maybe 100 blocks or so and came upon a swamp, and a river. A little farther I found some plains with a prefab village - a rather nice one actually. Then FINALLY on the other side of the plains I came upon my mountain range. Just thought it was kinda cool with biomes aparently so big now, I found a seed that spawned me basically on the edge of every biome in the game. Haven't even gone 500 blocks from the spawn yet.

Also I've notived that friendly mobs are very abundant, but rumor has it they spawn once per chunk, don't despawn, and don't respawn after you kill them. In other words, we should be careful with the cows and pigs and sheeps after the server updates. The chickens can be renewable it you corral them up and collect eggs to through when you want more chickens, but all the others go extinct in your area if you kill them all... Which means after the server updates, we're probably not going to have any mobs in chunks that are already generated.

One last thing - I've read its possible to delete old chunks in established worlds so that they can be regenerated with 1.8 code - possibly we can delete all chunks that haven't been developed in so that we won't have to go as far to find the 1.8 good stuff? yeah yeah I know we can get there with the nether or whatever, but if thats the answer might as well start a new world anyways since I'll probably end up abandoning my castle-in-progress in order to go live in 1.8 areas.

[Untrod Tripod]

omfg I love 1.8

[Claus]

P.S. I tried the seed: mountainclimber last night, hoping to get some mountains

Man, every seed seems awesome with the new biome code.

Also I've notived that friendly mobs are very abundant, but rumor has it they spawn once per chunk, don't despawn, and don't respawn after you kill them.

Can you link to that discussion? I would love some serious SCIENCE about the rules of mob generation in 1.8. Some things that I know:
* Hostile mobs do respawn. Friendly mobs SEEM to respawn, but I'm not sure.
* Once I sheared a sheep, went far away enough for the block to unload from the memory, returned after a few minecraft days, and when I returned the sheep was still there, sheared
* I haven't seen a sheep spawn in my city in days.

One last thing - I've read its possible to delete old chunks in established worlds so that they can be regenerated with 1.8 code - possibly we can delete all chunks that haven't been developed in so that we won't have to go as far to find the 1.8 good stuff?

I think we could "crop" the existing world to the smallest developed areas - but we can't simply erase all of the undeveloped areas, else we would have big gaping holes in the world. If UA is busy I wouldn't mind doing the work, I think I'll have some free time in the weekend. I would even try my hand at that "smoothing" tool they published in Reddit.

Even if we completely abandon the old biomes for the new ones (I don't think I would do that -- would probably start building more in the tundra, though) -- I think it is nice to keep the old buildings around for archiving purposes.

[Claus]

Oh, and BTW



This is amazing.