Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[David Xanatos]

I wasn't aware that Argalev was the single Town house. I assumed that other houses were loyal to me, and therefore were not considered a threat to my kin.

[SleepyKrew]

Bullshit. We don't know that for certain.
Your Daykill insta-lynch explanation is also terribad. There are countless pro-town reasons to shoot immediately.
VOTE: David

[David Xanatos]

Then give them.

Let's say a nice round figure of five. Give five good pro-Town reasons to use a Day-Shot in the second non-Moderator post in the game.

Argelev is the rightful ruling house, and I shall not see our dynasty end at the hands of traitorous scum as yourself.

[Magua]

Post #20 should read "ARE town". Thank you kdowns.

He would only do it under a strict "no trolling" policy, and that's not how I roll.

David is scum.

kdowns is town.

tclawren is in a gray category. I'm *very* curious about:

NOW TAKE A LOOK UP AT THE PROVIDED VT PM AND GIVE ME A GOOD FUCKING REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T LYNCH YOUR

FAIL 3RD PARTY ASS.

@tclawren:

Why did you write 3rd party instead of scum?

[SleepyKrew]

1. We are Neighbors and his QT posts are reeking of scum.
2. I received a Guilty on him through one of many means.
3. I know him to be a townie with a role that is 100% detrimental to the town.
4. My Role PM told me he was scum.
5. I knew it would draw reactions.

Magua, did you quote the wrong post of mine?

[SleepyKrew]

Oh it was to 22. Since when does Slaxx not troll?

[David Xanatos]

SK claimed Scum the minute he said that Argelev were the Scum faction. The VT role PM clearly states that Argelev are the Town. Even though I did not notice that we were the main loyal faction, my first post after SK's entry was an effective Argelev claim.

For this simple fact, though I admit to skimming my Role PM apart from the relevant role and my flavour, I cannot be Scum.

[tclawren]

@Magua: if he was scum and had a qt he would know better than to claim that loyalists are scum. i presume that only a 3rd party that misread his pm would make that mistake.

in other news

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DavidX

good wagon is good

[SleepyKrew]

That makes no sense.
Oh wait.

[SleepyKrew]

@Magua: if he was scum and had a qt he would know better than to claim that loyalists are scum. i presume that only a 3rd party that misread his pm would make that mistake.

in other news

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DavidX

good wagon is good

Why David over me?

[SleepyKrew]

David, why didn't you vote me right when I "claimed scum"? You did it two posts later, after tcl said to.

[kdowns]

Well, it looks like this RVS was over with in a heartbeat.... UNVOTE:

[tclawren]

@SK-I'll take your word that you were gambitting. I have a tendency to fall hard for these sort of things...

And david is scummy.

[Magua]

I was in such a hurry to share my wonderful insight with you.

For this simple fact, though I admit to skimming my Role PM apart from the relevant role and my flavour, I cannot be Scum.

While this part is fine, and yes you claimed Argelev immediately, etc, *I'm* voting you because you said this:

Please tell me that's a fake daykill.

If it isn't, congrats, you just became today's lynch I think..

Indicating you did not believe the daykill would end the Day, but you then followed it up with this:

Because you're taking a Day-Shot that may, depending on mechanics, end the day.

[SleepyKrew]

More more more.

David, I'm assuming my reasons were satisfactory?

tcl, when did I say it was a gambit?

[David Xanatos]

1: Day-vig neighbour? Unlikely. Extremely unlikely.
2: Requires N0 action.
3: Requires either Role-Cop, Neighbourhood or Mason. The latter two are possible but unlikely given the first point.
4: That would make you scum too, as I have never, ever ever ever ever seen a Mod hand Town a Scum name beyond Town-Scum Lovers pairs.
5: Bullshit reason.

That's 5/5 that weren't good reasons. Try again.

Pedit: Magua - Read what I said. Depending on mechanics, I've seen Daykills work both ways, both ending the day and not. It depends on the mod's personal style, if the day ends, he's tomorrow's lynch, if it doesn't, and his target flips anything other than bulletproof godfather ninja poisoner, he's deprived Town of what could have been a particularly valuable resource (Essentially a free lynch, or anti-CC tool.)

[manho]

i'm of house argelev and loyalist.

[David Xanatos]

Noone else claim Loyalist. For the love of god stop.. claim House, not Loyalist, Loyalist is a VT claim.

[Magua]

David, it's like this.

I'm not saying a dayvig in one's opening post is a good idea. It's not, whatever Sleepy says.

But your reaction to it is incredibly scummy. It reads *exactly* as "He dayvigged someone who's not on my team, so I know they're going to flip town. I can use that to lynch him."

It does not read as someone who thinks dayvigging is going to end the Day, as you later claim was your problem with it. And if you were town and thought the dayvig was real, you may as well wait for the flip and take it from there, because even an entirely random vig is going to be right 25-33% of the time.

So from your reaction I have that you're scum, that Otolia is town, and that Sleepy is town.

Noone else claim Loyalist. For the love of god stop.. claim House, not Loyalist, Loyalist is a VT claim.

This is false. Die nao pl0x.

[kdowns]

Only Claim your House, leave your Role ambigious.

[David Xanatos]

Your role is

Loyalist

, and for exemplary purposes, you have no special abilities.

Read that.

Your ROLE is LOYALIST.

That's the sample VT PM. Loyalists are VTs according to that, therefore by having people claim Loyalist, it narrows the pool of TPRs.

[SleepyKrew]

Victory Dance.

[David Xanatos]

If his accusation of Argelev was not enough for you, that should be the final nail. Sleepy is Scum, and has pulled that to narrow the pool for his faction to shoot at. -_-

[tclawren]

tcl, when did I say it was a gambit?

"Nice catch"? Meaning you weren't aware that Loyalists/Argelev aren't town David?

If this isn't you saying that the earlier stuff was a gambit, then I'm not sure what is.

Noone else claim Loyalist. For the love of god stop.. claim House, not Loyalist, Loyalist is a VT claim.

lulzylulz. I concur with what Magua has just said here. this is false.

[David Xanatos]

Did you read the sample PM?

It clearly states, your Role is Loyalist.

Sample VT PM says Loyalist, that rather means that Loyalist = VT.