Imperial Intrigue (Endgame, OUT OF NOWHERE)

[Wraith]

mbstokem

replaces tclawren effective immediately.

Night ends in approximately 5-8 hours.

[Wraith]

Day Three

Spoiler: Daybreak

On the Burning Throne, the

Beran

stirred at the noise. The great double-doors groaned and small, sillouhetted figure rushed inside the hall. "

Mein Herr

, did you

sleep

on the Burning Throne?" said the steward.

"It appears I dozed off," said Sturmengard, rubbing his face. "What news?"

Stepping onto the Throne's elevated platform, the steward had an uneasy look on his face, licking his lips and breathing deeply. "Tidings from Mos Kaligon,

Herr Beran

," he said, handing Sturmengard a telegram. The

Beran

's expression quickly changed from drowsy to grim.

"Stifle news of this," he said, crumpling the note. "I have to do some serious damage control. I will see none of the delegates today."

David Xanatos

,

Moran Argelev (Mason Beloved Prince)

, Murdered Night Two

Day Three has been skipped. It is now

Night Three

. Please forward all night actions via PM by

October 10, 2011

.

[Wraith]

Day Four

Spoiler: Daybreak

Leaning forward on the Burning Throne, the

Beran

rubbed as his forehead, hands covering his face. He sighed as the great doors heaved open and the inevitably-arriving steward strode across the hall. "What news?" he asked, leaning back again and clearing his throat.

"Two bodies were found in the palace's telegraph station. It was Miran Valterran and his aide."

"What were they doing in there?"

"I can't say for certain. Contacting someone, of course," the steward said. The

Beran

made a strange gesture and expression and then waved for him to continue. "There was a major disturbance in the family parlor. By the time guardsmen arrived they found the

Terrarch

Blackmore of the Third Legion dead, near a weapon, and a bloodstain by the door. It appears another body was moved,

herr.

."

"Was that body one of the other representatives?"

"No,

mein herr

."

The

Beran

groaned. "They're picking us apart one by one. I want

answers

today, not excuses from these fools. Send them in."

Shinki

,

Valterran Armaments (Gunsmith)

, Murdered Night Three

monk

,

3rd Legion "Stormtroopers" (Mason)

, Murdered Night Three

With 15 alive it takes

8

to lynch.

Deadline for today is

November 1, 2011

.

ALL PLAYERS HAVE 24 HOURS TO POST BEFORE MASSPROD

[MattP]

So Shinki wasn't detective then. O.o Well, that's surprising.

[Otolia]

So Shinki wasn't detective then. O.o Well, that's surprising.

No it's not. She perfectly soft-claimed Gunsmith when she said '

tell me about your killing powers, Mr. Scum

'. She was wrong about the scum part since StrangerCoug was a third party but it doesn't matter anymore. He is unlikely to have a ally anymore.

The scum group is likely to be Eastern now. Reasonable estimation has them being at most 2 with killing abilities. The town had a day vig (SleepyKrew) and a a claimed Night Vig, so it's unlikely we have any other killing roles. A protective role was certainly implemented to work with the beloved part of David Xanatos role. After that we certainly have a roleblocker.

One question remains now : Who is doing the second kill ?

Another Third Party or Another Scum Group or both of them are due to an unknown factor (compulsive paranoid gun-owner) ? What are your thoughts on that ?

@kdowns : Any kills tonight ?

For the time being : VOTE: MattP for thinking he can cruise through Day 4 like if it were Day 1.

[Nero Cain]

Kdowns claimed 1 shot.

vote: Matt P

[SodaSpirit17]

Love this MattP BW

##Vote: MattP

[EtherealCookie]

How are you sure it's a third party and not two separate mafia factions?

[EtherealCookie]

Especially noting that the kill ratio didn't go down, as the third kill in the night preceding SC's lynching was caused by SK's gun. I'd be tempted to suggest two different mafia factions given SK's death didn't change anything, unless someone fired a gun AGAIN.

[EtherealCookie]

Yay triple posting. I'll hit preview next time, I promise. Given the death on N2 being singular, that might actually be possible. SC could've been a SK, and Shi Ki could've given a gun to the wrong person and got himself shot in the process given the person was smart enough to clue into what was going on, explaining two deaths on N3.

[kdowns]

My Night Kill was a one shot

[Magua]

Given that his name is flipped in red, I'd say chances are very high that StrangerCoug was mafia and not third party. Going by the flavor with their lynches, StrangerCoug was part of the "rebellion in the North" mafia and Empking was part of the "rebellion in the East" mafia.

Xanatos came from the west. I imagine that there's someone/something interesting from the south, though I don't think it's a killing faction because those numbers don't add up.

kdowns is town from D1.
Otolia is town from D1.

Of those who remain:
I'm suspicious of those who jumped onto StrangerCoug's lynch D2 while going, "lolcopreport": MacDougall (especially with #809 and #812), PeregrineV, Agar, Nero Cain (especially with #843), EtherealCookie. There be bussers in them thar hills. Money is on PeregrineV and Agar.

Soda curiously posts right at that time but doesn't mention Shinki or StrangerCoug at all, but FoS'es MattP.

manho's #864 "I see SC is at L-1 why can't anyone see this cop is fake?" just reads so incredibly bad town (but still town). MacDougall's "if SC flips town I'm going to come eat you" in #866 also seems very town for the same reasons.

So:
manho is town.
Macdougall is town.

AGar is scum.
Peregrine is scum.

MattP is scummy, but he's scummy in a newbie sort of way that makes me want to keep him around because if he's stupid newbie town he should live and if he's stupid newbie scum he'll lead us to his partners.

Everyone else is just this incredibly bland ball of null for me.

VOTE: AGar

[AGar]

VOTE: SodaSpirit

No consistency in his reads whatsoever
Going with the popular flow
Not providing any real or tangible and correct content.

Hi scum, die scum.

Oh and lolmaguausobadatthissticktobeingdaysk.

[MacDougall]

The following is the entirety of Vezokpiraka's posting in this thread.

I'm House Argelev.

Okay then.

You don't Lynch me for the same reason you don't Lynch a survivor. Lynching me has exactly the same effect as if you left me alive and I decided to work against you(you get one less chance to Lynch scum), it's just more distracting.

No no no.

We lynch you right now. Last few times you claimed something that isn't town but isn't bad to town you turned on us and killed us.

You die right now.

vote gandalf

Hmmm.

unvote
vote davidX

Why do you have to post so much guys

.

Lol.

Yeah.

We can lynch monk and david together for being scum.
"Third Legion Stormtroopers Allied to the true Heir of the Throne." - monk

I see neither loyalist nor House Argelev in your claim. You are scum my friend.

unvote vote monk

Yes, definitely scum that guy.

I think SC is pretty scummy. But I'm not sure what to think.

Shinki is playing so fail with that claim and SC is making good points.

I never saw a cop that didn't want his guilty lynched.

Nice read. You aren't sure what to think? But you just said you think? But you aren't sure? Ouch. Brain.

Check it out. Fifth post in the thread. First in well over 24 hours, just happens to be when his name is mentioned. I believe they call this, "active lurking".

Actually I didn't have time to check the thread before. I told the mod that.

Also your accusations are baseless you I don't really care about them.

This is just a terrible post. "You say I am scum? Well... poo poo to you sir. Poo poo." Gotta lynch this guy on principle.

Honestly, if I come under immense scrutiny for disagreeing with lynching a player who flips scum, then doing it IN THE FACE OF A COP READ has to go one step further.

HE NEVER SAID HE IS A COP.

He is just playing stupid hoping someone dies. Next thing you know tomorrow after SC town flip he comes and says. Oh sorry guys I was just a watcher, tracker, whatever and I thought by my flavor that he could be scum.

But earlier you were happy to let us all roll with Shinki being a cop, because it suited you, here it suits you to say otherwise. You flip flopped on an important issue.

Anywho, this has been the scummiest player since day 1, gotta go imo.

vote Vezok

[manho]

Sorry for doubting you, shinki. That claim fits a gunsmith after the flip.

Will read the thread when i get my laptop back. Posting by phone now...

[manho]

i think there are probably 2 scums team. those 2 kills last night don't seem like from town.

i agree that mattp is scummy. and soda is probably scum too. they both provide no content.

and there must be something wrong with vezok still alive. it's day 4 now.

vote: mattp

[PeregrineV]

Given that his name is flipped in red, I'd say chances are very high that StrangerCoug was mafia and not third party. Going by the flavor with their lynches, StrangerCoug was part of the "rebellion in the North" mafia and Empking was part of the "rebellion in the East" mafia.

I think this is more accurate in terms of speculation than this:

So Shinki wasn't detective then. O.o Well, that's surprising.

No it's not. She perfectly soft-claimed Gunsmith when she said '

tell me about your killing powers, Mr. Scum

'. She was wrong about the scum part since StrangerCoug was a third party but it doesn't matter anymore. He is unlikely to have a ally anymore.

The scum group is likely to be Eastern now. Reasonable estimation has them being at most 2 with killing abilities. The town had a day vig (SleepyKrew) and a a claimed Night Vig, so it's unlikely we have any other killing roles. A protective role was certainly implemented to work with the beloved part of David Xanatos role. After that we certainly have a roleblocker.

One question remains now : Who is doing the second kill ?

Another Third Party or Another Scum Group or both of them are due to an unknown factor (compulsive paranoid gun-owner) ? What are your thoughts on that ?

@kdowns : Any kills tonight ?

For the time being : VOTE: MattP for thinking he can cruise through Day 4 like if it were Day 1.

I'm curious to see where you see MattP "cruising" through day4 when he has all of one post.

[vezokpiraka]

So Shinki wasn't detective then. O.o Well, that's surprising.

No it's not. She perfectly soft-claimed Gunsmith when she said '

tell me about your killing powers, Mr. Scum

'. She was wrong about the scum part since StrangerCoug was a third party but it doesn't matter anymore. He is unlikely to have a ally anymore.

The scum group is likely to be Eastern now. Reasonable estimation has them being at most 2 with killing abilities. The town had a day vig (SleepyKrew) and a a claimed Night Vig, so it's unlikely we have any other killing roles. A protective role was certainly implemented to work with the beloved part of David Xanatos role. After that we certainly have a roleblocker.

One question remains now : Who is doing the second kill ?

Another Third Party or Another Scum Group or both of them are due to an unknown factor (compulsive paranoid gun-owner) ? What are your thoughts on that ?


@kdowns : Any kills tonight ?

For the time being : VOTE: MattP for thinking he can cruise through Day 4 like if it were Day 1.

I think none thought red was a third party. The only people I've seen saying that someone who flipped scum is third party are scums in the same scum team.

My scumbuddies used that with me in other games. I used it in other games and so on.

You aren't town.

unvote vote otolia

[AGar]

Ah right... MacDougall is in this game.

Man I wish I had a double dayvig right now.

And no, Vezok. That is the shittiest logic I have ever seen anyone use. And this isn't your first game. Jesus christ start playing like you have a brain please?

[PeregrineV]

So Shinki wasn't detective then. O.o Well, that's surprising.

No it's not. She perfectly soft-claimed Gunsmith when she said '

tell me about your killing powers, Mr. Scum

'. She was wrong about the scum part since StrangerCoug was a third party but it doesn't matter anymore. He is unlikely to have a ally anymore.

The scum group is likely to be Eastern now. Reasonable estimation has them being at most 2 with killing abilities. The town had a day vig (SleepyKrew) and a a claimed Night Vig, so it's unlikely we have any other killing roles. A protective role was certainly implemented to work with the beloved part of David Xanatos role. After that we certainly have a roleblocker.

One question remains now : Who is doing the second kill ?

Another Third Party or Another Scum Group or both of them are due to an unknown factor (compulsive paranoid gun-owner) ? What are your thoughts on that ?


@kdowns : Any kills tonight ?

For the time being : VOTE: MattP for thinking he can cruise through Day 4 like if it were Day 1.

I think none thought red was a third party. The only people I've seen saying that someone who flipped scum is third party are scums in the same scum team.

My scumbuddies used that with me in other games. I used it in other games and so on.

You aren't town.

unvote vote otolia

This was a minor thought flash to me, but didn't really think too much of it at the time.

But if I'm not the only one thinking it, then maybe there is something too it.

Vote:Otolia

pedit- lol- You saying everyone else is wrong doesn't make them wrong.

[Otolia]

I said StrangerCoug was a Third Party (and thus alone) because the name of his faction is the name of his house. It's different that

Eastern

or even

Loyalist

. Maybe it is a scumgroup, but it doesn't matter. I also said there was another scumgroup aside from the

Eastern

and it doesn't matter if this another scumgroup is

Bremburg

or not. Foccusing your attention on that minor point of my speech is a proof that you have low interest in seeing motivations behind actions and thus earns you suspicion - though vezok might just be not making sense.

@PeregrineV

: When someone opens the Day 4 of a game where there have been a lot of NK, it is suspicious to post one-liner commenting on something that is irrelevant now. He didn't make too much of an effort throughout the game. It's time to wake up.

Which brings me to point out kdowns, Nero Cain, SodaSpirit along with manho for blindly following the wagon. If you voted against MattP for my reasons, then you are doing the same thing that you accuse him of, if you have another reason, please tell us.

@EtherealCookie

: You don't know what a Gunsmith do, do you ? It's an investigating role, thus Shinki couldn't have given out any gun. And please, hit preview before posting.

[AGar]

1-Shot BP is a pretty common modifier for an SK sooooooooooooooooo.

[SodaSpirit17]

oh damn I forgot about vezok. He's definitely scum. Don't like AGar still.

[AGar]

oh damn I forgot about vezok. He's definitely scum. Don't like AGar still.

Day 2, I was worth a vote because I "wasn't providing content" supposedly.
Day 4, I'm still suspicious, but MattP is the leading bandwagon for god only knows what reason (didn't know what a gunsmith is? c'monnnn) so he gets voted.

Also, all of his suspicions align with people who have votes.

Please note this, and lynch the fuck out of him with fire now?

[EtherealCookie]

Op.
Disregard my post, then, the gunsmith role works dramatically differently than any other variations I've seen of it on other forums/games.
I still have no idea how you're convinced he's a SK as opposed to a different mafia member faction though. And no, don't use flavor to defend it, the mod has already stated flavor logic is idiotic and won't work.