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Post Post #475 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 5:39 pm

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elves isnt a thing. anyone who thinks it is a thing is wrong and probably bad at magic.
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Post Post #476 (ISO) » Tue May 08, 2012 9:39 pm

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Especially if they can't deal with progenitus.... You just block him and hit me? right?
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Post Post #477 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 1:29 am

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Post Post #478 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 8:35 am

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ah, apparently, I'm a nub.
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Post Post #479 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 4:58 pm

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everyone knew that as soon as you said "sneak and tell" was tier one.
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Post Post #480 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 5:10 pm

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Mtgthesource has Sneak and Tell as Tier 1.
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Post Post #481 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 5:18 pm

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You need a new MTG source.
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Post Post #482 (ISO) » Wed May 09, 2012 6:18 pm

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Salvation has Sneak Show as Tier 1, as well.

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Post Post #483 (ISO) » Thu May 10, 2012 12:07 pm

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Thestatusquo wrote:elves isnt a thing. anyone who thinks it is a thing is wrong and probably bad at magic.


Excuse me while I go cry in a corner and wish you weren't right.
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Post Post #484 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:23 pm

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4 Evolving Wilds
13 Island
10 Plains

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27 lands


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0 creatures

4 Devastation Tide
1 Dissipate
4 Entreat the Angels
4 Feeling of Dread
4 Temporal Mastery
4 Terminus
4 Think Twice
4 Thought Scour

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29 other spells

4 Tamiyo, the Moon Sage

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4 planeswalkers


Sideboard
1 Angel's Mercy
4 Cathedral Sanctifier
3 Dissipate
3 Geist of Saint Traft
2 Midnight Haunting
2 Snapcaster Mage

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So that settles it, miracle cards are viable.
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Post Post #485 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:28 pm

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I'm missing the part where you win the game, unless you're just thinking Entreat the Angels will never get countered and your 4/4 tokens will be able to survive.
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Post Post #486 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:45 pm

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4/4's are quite formiddable and a well timed terminus before hand or a well timed temporal mastery after ward should be enough. Also if the game gets too drawn out eventually you just pop Tamiyo and have infinite entreat the angels
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Post Post #487 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:47 pm

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Considering the fact that that is the deck list that just won the pro tour, I think you are indeed missing something.

The decks game plan is to stall until it can take over the game with absurdly powerful spells, and the miracle action gives it a solid early game offensive as well. All it needs to do is resolve one of its entreats, and with its board control its probably gg.

Furthermore, when you miracle something, it allows you to ignore timing rules, meaning you can cast it when your opponents tap out by think twicing or thought scouring into it.

Also, the only viable counterspell in that format is dissipate anyway.
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Post Post #488 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:49 pm

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^Shea said it much more eloquently than I did.
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Post Post #489 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:55 pm

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As a mild sidenote, this is also Block Constructed. The in-block counterspells are god-awful. Dissipate and nothing else is worth running.
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Post Post #490 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:56 pm

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Hmm. Interesting.

I guess it is viable then. I feel like it'd be a fairly boring deck to play.
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Post Post #491 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:59 pm

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Yes, there are cards that are block bombs that aren't great elsewhere, but the arguement was that miracle is shitty always, this deck proves otherwise.

@reckoner, dude, drawing a miracle everyturn sounds like a whole lot of fun to play. To play against, well all control decks are super annoying to play against.
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Post Post #492 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 4:59 pm

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Interestingly enough, I think this and the japanese reanimator decks are the only decks in the format that DONT look boring.

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Post Post #493 (ISO) » Sun May 13, 2012 5:02 pm

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In post 491, PJ. wrote:@reckoner, dude, drawing a miracle everyturn sounds like a whole lot of fun to play. To play against, well all control decks are super annoying to play against.

Yeah, maybe... I do get a giant smile on my face whenever I miracle my Terminus.
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Post Post #494 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2012 6:03 am

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So would there be any interest in trying to do that whole netdraft thing again?
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Post Post #495 (ISO) » Mon May 14, 2012 7:46 am

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I'd try it.
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Post Post #496 (ISO) » Mon May 21, 2012 8:29 am

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=22032

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Post Post #497 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 8:09 am

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SO GUYS...

I opened an Avacyn, Bonfire of the Damned, Descent into Madness, and a shit ton of rare miracles yesterday. This means I now have an Avacyn, Gisela, and Griselbrand. I just need Bruna and Sigarda to have a full set of legendaries from Avacyn :)
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Post Post #498 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 8:12 am

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Post Post #499 (ISO) » Tue May 22, 2012 8:19 am

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My roommate wanted to buy a box and I owed him for bills anyway so I covered most of it to pay him back. He opened some sweet cards too.

But I actually have enough miracle cards now to throw them in my deck. 2 Thunderous Wraths, 2 Banishing Strokes, and a Bonfire of the Damned are in my red/white. I also have a couple of Vanishments and a couple Blessings of Nature.
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