NomicScum, Game 2

[Packbat]

Oh, you sonofa...

Calling for Judgment: did JDGA just win by #213?

There's no clause allowing for the situation in which a player does

not

submit a rule-change within the deadline.

[T-Bone]

Nope, he doesn't win. We move on.

[Packbat]

Feirei is the judge.

[JDGA]

lol
Sorry, V/LA and shenanigans here has made it near-impossible for me to pay too much attention here.

[Packbat]

Nope, he doesn't win. We move on.

I suppose I could see an argument that JDGA proposed a

null

rule change...

Edit: Under that interpretation, VOTE: Nay.

[T-Bone]

Sure.

Vote: Nay

[JDGA]

Feirei is the judge.

[Feirei]

Oh, you sonofa...

Calling for Judgment: did JDGA just win by #213?

There's no clause allowing for the situation in which a player does

not

submit a rule-change within the deadline.

You have a point.

Rule 201 forbids a turn to be skipped. And yes, there could be an argument that he proposed a null rule change, but there's no evidence of such an action.

By Rule 213, this game is over.

[MonkeyMan576]

Oh, you sonofa...

Calling for Judgment: did JDGA just win by #213?

There's no clause allowing for the situation in which a player does

not

submit a rule-change within the deadline.

You have a point.

Rule 201 forbids a turn to be skipped. And yes, there could be an argument that he proposed a null rule change, but there's no evidence of such an action.

By Rule 213, this game is over.

213 identifies a situation where a player is

unable

to make a move, not when they merely choose not to.

[Feirei]

He is unable to complete his turn because its too late to submit a rule proposal, and his turn, by Rule 201, cannot be skipped. Further play is impossible.

[T-Bone]

Good thing we accepted Ani's rule which would have prevented this situation.

OH WAIT

[Feirei]

If that rule is there, he'd have been skipped. Funny how half of us (including me, mind you) killed the game from the beginning.

[Lord Mhork]

That's hot the game ends? Hmm... A little anticlimactic...

[Packbat]

Hence Meta Rule III, which allows games to restart quickly and easily.

[Packbat]

For reference, the Meta Rules:

I.

All players must always abide by all the rules then in effect, in the form in which they are then in effect. All Meta Rules are in effect whenever a game begins. Wherever there is a contradiction between any Meta Rules and any other rules, the Meta Rules shall govern. The Meta Rules consist of rules I-V.

II.

No changes will be made to the Meta Rules except by unanimous agreement of all players. No changes will be made to the Meta Rules by the agreement of fewer than five players.

III.

Each game shall begin with a written ruleset consisting of these Meta Rules and a set of Game Rules. If no game is in progress and no set of Game Rules have been proposed, the winner of the previous game shall have the right to propose such a set. If no such winner exists, or if said winner fails to propose such a set within a reasonable time, or if, after such a set is proposed, no game starts, any person with an unbanned Mafiascum.net account may propose a set of Game Rules.

IV.

Each game shall start with a written player list. The player list shall be drawn exclusively from persons with unbanned Mafiascum.net accounts.

V.

If a game has no players on the player list, the game may be terminated by any person with an unbanned Mafiascum.net account.

[Robotnick2]

When we start the next one, could we please provide a provision for this kind of thing? It's somewhat anticlimactic.

[Feirei]

We should. Does ani start first in every game, or does the winner start...or does it go to the one after JDGA.

[T-Bone]

Anti-climatic. I am out.

[Lord Mhork]

Sorry, guys. I'm not going to have the time for another of these as I'm preparing to sever contact for my month-or-so V/LA.

I'm going to have to /out

[Packbat]

When we start the next one, could we please provide a provision for this kind of thing? It's somewhat anticlimactic.

Agreed. That was my mistake in writing the original ruleset.

We should. Does ani start first in every game, or does the winner start...or does it go to the one after JDGA.

It depends on how JDGA writes the rules - I'd recommend he declare that he himself starts the next game and it proceed alphabetically from there.

[animorpherv1]

Good thing we accepted Ani's rule which would have prevented this situation.

I'm sorry that no one can pass important rules.

[Kcdaspot]

Oh, you sonofa...

Calling for Judgment: did JDGA just win by #213?

There's no clause allowing for the situation in which a player does

not

submit a rule-change within the deadline.

This was lulzy.

[Xalxe]

Having nothing to do with the end of this game, I must /out due to SUMMER.

[JDGA]

Noted, somewhat amused, and will take the opportunity to update the rules to prevent this next round. <_<

[Packbat]

re-/in, for the record.