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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:42 am

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VOTE: Jackal711

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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:30 am

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Oh no you di'int!

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VOTE: RachMarie

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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:18 am

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Bring it.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:51 am

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Well aren't you original?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #4) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:30 am

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In post 17, Venmar wrote:
Why do you want me to give you solid reasons Rach? It isn't even past Day 1.


Are you saying you aren't going to give any solid reasons on Day One?

Zachrulez wrote:I'm voting him for the same reason Venmar is.


Correction, Venmar is voting me for the same reasons you are. Not the other way around. And yes, there is a difference.
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Post Post #24 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:25 am

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In post 22, Venmar wrote:
- Sorry, that was a typo. I meant Page 1. Funny you would make that kind of assumption really..


You could see my astonishment at someone saying they wouldn't be giving reasoning on Day One. It wasn't an assumption, you said it. Not me. I'd be an idiot not to call it out.

Zachrulez wrote:
In post 21, Robocopter87 wrote:

Zachrulez wrote:I'm voting him for the same reason Venmar is.


Correction, Venmar is voting me for the same reasons you are. Not the other way around. And yes, there is a difference.


What would the difference be?


The difference would be that Rach made a random vote.
You made an actual vote based upon my response. This was very obvious. Not needed to be spoken.
And Venmar proceeded to make a vote after you. However, unlike you, his reasoning was not obvious. Making him a bandwagoner in my eyes. Until he explained his reasoning, he was a bandwagoner. But he still voted me for the same reasons you did.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #6) » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:52 pm

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That was the mother of all OMGUSs. Don't undershoot my OMGUSness. It was pro.

And you're getting worked up about this... why??


You got a better way to spark discussion?

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@ Mort it was the WAY he did it just sliding on after 2 other votes on Robo. I was questioning to get discussion going.


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Post Post #36 (isolation #7) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:27 am

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In post 34, Zachrulez wrote:
Was your vote for Rach intended to spark discussion?


Good question. Yes.

Zachrulez wrote:
So... do you actually find Venmar scummy? I'm seeing you being critical of him, and seeing indications that your vote on Rach was mostly to get things going, so if you find him suspicious and don't have any other underlying reason to vote for Rach, why is your vote still there?


Venmar for me is still nullish. His reactions aren't really indicative of alignment because I could see both town and scum doing the same exact thing. It isn't like this is the first game where a bunch of people randomly wagoned in the beginning.

It was however a nice place to start discussion.

On the placing of my vote. I simply forgot to remove it. We are kinda walking out of RVS. Not much has happened and my vote wasn't even close to serious.

I don't really have any other place to put my vote at this moment but I don't think Rach deserves it. Especially now we are getting into some actual discussion.

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Post Post #39 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:34 am

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/facepalm

Did you even read the quote that you quoted?
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Post Post #44 (isolation #9) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:39 pm

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I said I didn't really have any other place to put it at the moment. When someone does something scummy and I find a valid reason to vote someone then I will. Otherwise it would be another random vote.

I'll vote when I find something voteworthy.
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Post Post #48 (isolation #10) » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:42 pm

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Why did you ask Jackal why no one looked suspicious? Why not me?
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Post Post #59 (isolation #11) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:05 pm

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In post 49, FuDuzn wrote:Because I know you have been following the thread, but I don't believe Jackal has been.

And when Jackal says no one looks suspicious, it seems fake.......since how would know if people look fake if he hasn't been following the game?


What? He looks fake? I'll tell you whats fake, your reasoning.

In post 51, Jackal711 wrote:
In post 46, FuDuzn wrote:No one looks even remotely suspicious to you Jackal? Nothing that would cause you to at least place a tentative on someone?


Not until you posted that...
VOTE: FuDuzn

In post 46, FuDuzn wrote:Serious question, have you read this thread?


Of course. I am currently involved, in some way, with 4 games. 2 of them games I"m modding. I check all games at least once an hour for new posts.

PEdit: This is totally
NOT
OMGUS. I wrote this post before your vote.


Umm what? Why does that post make you vote him?

In post 53, Mortontfrh wrote:No, Rach definitely deserves your vote.


You tell Rach to Vote me then tell me to vote Rach? You never said anything about Rach being scum either. What is this i dont even

In post 55, Time Traveling Scumhunter wrote:Dear game members of 24-hours in the future:

Zach is scum. His focus on an easy target in jackal is a scumfession. He says something is scummy without believing it to be so. Does he really think that a misplaced RVS vote is "scummy" no. Town zach might believe it doesn't help town, but does he really think he's found someone who is evidencing scum tendencies? No. He does not.

VOTE: Zach

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So far Zach is the only player who has done anything reasonable. He didn't focus an easy target. He focused a target he thought was scum.

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Post Post #60 (isolation #12) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:06 pm

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Man, page three and we are already out of control.
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Post Post #64 (isolation #13) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:31 pm

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In post 61, Mortontfrh wrote:
In post 59, Robocopter87 wrote:You tell Rach to Vote me then tell me to vote Rach? You never said anything about Rach being scum either. What is this i dont even


When did I ever tell Rach to vote for you?


Sorry. Typo.

"Pursue". Not "Vote".
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Post Post #65 (isolation #14) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:31 pm

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Way to avoid the actual question though.
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Post Post #66 (isolation #15) » Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:32 pm

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In post 62, Venmar wrote:RoboCopter, my man.

Why you no vote no one?


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Post Post #68 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:24 am

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So let's break this down then. Robo not only put someone to L-2 (Which you obviously find questionable giving your pressure towards Venmar) but on top of that you think that his OMGUS is problematic and yet you still opted to pursue Venmar instead of Robocop?
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Post Post #71 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:46 am

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In post 69, Mortontfrh wrote:Dear lord, you interpreted that as asking Rach to pursue voting you instead of asking her why she
didn't
pursue you? There's a pretty big difference there, and I thought that was pretty obvious in my post.


It was more implied that she should be pursuing me instead of Venmar. It wasn't directly said. Or at least, thats what it sounded like.
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Post Post #73 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:48 pm

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You stated two things wrong with me and then asked her why she wasn't pursuing me. Again, thats what it sounded like.
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Post Post #79 (isolation #19) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:32 am

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Well, I was the last person to post actual game related content so I have nothing to say.
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Post Post #82 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:04 am

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You think he is more town for defending you?
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Post Post #84 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:12 am

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Then what did Zach do that changed your mind? It appears that you said he was town right after he defended you.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:25 pm

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Stop talking like that.
Get an avatar.

@Venmar: You have something more important to talk about?
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Post Post #97 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:58 am

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@TTS: Stop talking like that. Its annoying and useless. How about you make a more sound case than assuming he might've thought something about someone else.

Also, he wasn't the only person to drop in with a filler post, activity dropped, multiple people had to say stuff. Why are you tunneling Zach?

@Jackal: Morton beat me to thread, but I also would like the answer to his question.
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Post Post #122 (isolation #24) » Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:46 pm

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In post 110, RachMarie wrote:Mort tends to have tunnel vision. He almost always assumes I am scum even when proven wrong.

Meanwhile I want to hear more from Robo, now that Venmar spoke. I really do have a method to my madness even if it is not fully apparent off the bat.

I am a big picture person and I work hard to peg everyone as soon as I can, leaving room of course for some major scum tells. So it is not set in stone town or scum especially this early, however it gives me a good guideline of who is likely scum and who is likely not scum.

Mort, on the other hand, has a very straight for the jugular approach on one person and not let go til they are dead.

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What I read from this,

"I don't have a response to Mort so I'm going to deflect to Robo. I am scumhunting, you just don't know it."

The last part though i don't mind. Your activity level is non indicative of your alignment. I know your in a rough spot. Still calling you out though. Sorry.

Jackal711 wrote:Popping in to

VOTE: RachMarie


I've seen her as town and scum (I was also in that newbie game that Morton linked where she flipped scum) and am getting mostly scum-vibes from her posts so far.


This vote is pathetic.

@Mort: You really are throwing your vote around. What gives? You were voting Zach and then the next thing I know you are calling him town.
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@ TTSH: You are just twisting Zach's words to make it seem like he has done something scummy. He is right, you have clearly tunneled only Zach this whole game and have not provided any useful information whatsoever.

I'm not saying that Zach is obvtown, I'm saying that your case on him being scum sucks. If you were to actually provide a decent case I would look into it. But right now you think Zach has some Ego problem when in reality its kinda obvious that hes frustrated your pushing your stupid case.
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You did not answer the question in its entirety.

When I say "throwing votes around", I mean, "Dropping reads fast"

You were voting Zach, then suddenly you voted Rach and called Zach town. Why did you do that?
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Post Post #146 (isolation #27) » Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:04 am

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I could've sworn that sentence under Mort's Rach vote had something to do with Zach being more towny. Upon ISOing, I find that this is not true, he never said a word about Zach being town.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #28) » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:06 pm

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In post 154, Time Traveling Scumhunter wrote:To: Weekend Warriors of the Future
From: TTHS

Re: Robo skims and spouts off

Zach wrote:Starting here, I don't scumhunt this way, so your entire analysis in this regard is faulty. I indiscriminately hunt for scummy play, I don't take into account whether the person committing the actions is an "easy target."

Also going to note that attacking someone for going after an "easy target" is lazy play. It's a very easy thing to attack. (For example, I could villify everyone on the Rach wagon as going after an easy target since her wagon has formed while she's apparently had real life issues if I completely ignore that her play has actually been scummy and that the wagon is warranted.


I don't see how your scumhunting differently in any way changes the fact that your attempt to equate my saying "scummy vote" to jackal and your vote on him earlier in the game are the same thing. Your attempt to cast it as something else is pretty damning.

Oh, and very "clever" to try the old "I am rubber you are glue" attack: You're scummy because you made an easy attack on me for making an easy attack on Jackal.

To give you a visual representation:

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More seriously, if I wanted to go after someone easy, you aren't likely the one I would have targeted. I'm an unknown here. People aren't just going to take it off faith I know what I'm talking about, so going after you was always going to be an uphill battle. But given the fact I'm reasonably sure you're scum, it's the good fight.

Zach wrote:Are you assuming Jackal is a bad lynch? How would you know that exactly? Also how can you possibly know I'll avoid responsibility for a lynch I am on? This is magical knowledge of the future you are ninjaing into the discussion where you hope to lynch me on hypothetical arguments regardless of whether they actually prove true.


I am not assuming anything. But I AM saying that in the case where you want to pursue an easy lynch to get through the day without taking any responsibility for the lynch if it goes bad IS scummy. Which is what you do when you say that your vote is simply something to "advance the game."


Robo wrote:@ TTSH: You are just twisting Zach's words to make it seem like he has done something scummy. He is right, you have clearly tunneled only Zach this whole game and have not provided any useful information whatsoever.


Am I? Or is this an instance where you gave a very cursory skim to the exchange we've had and have concluded it?

And what "useful" information should I have been providing that I have not? I have a blinking red light of a scum read on Zach, and until someone comes up with something better, I will continue to try and show everyone else just why Zach has been scummy. His initial passive-but-I-look-like-I'm-aggressive play followed by his enraged response to me is what I'm talking about.

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You saying things like, "Robo skims and spouts off". Doesn't provide anything to your case. I have read the thread and find your argument to be fail, saying I spouted off doesn't make me wrong, it just makes you look ignorant.

Where is this list of easy lynches coming from? Who made the list of "easy to get a lynch"? You saying that nobody understands you is creating a scenario where you are a victim.

You are twisting his words. I read the thread. Stop saying I haven't. I read your argument and it sucks. I explained why, you saying that I didn't read is not a valid response.

What useful information? You haven't said a word about anybody besides Zach. You haven't given reads, possible partners, insight upon other people's cases. You aren't contributing besides these cases on Zach being scum.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #29) » Tue Jul 10, 2012 8:14 am

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In post 178, Jackal711 wrote:
In post 177, yellowbounder wrote:
In post 175, Mortontfrh wrote:Understandable. I can definitely see how it is hard to answer a simple paragraph in under 4 days.

I'd certainly say she's coming across as unhelpful.


Agreed.

Unvote, Vote: Rach


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Post Post #209 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:35 am

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Ugh. Jackal wtf

y u do this to me
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Deadline is not an issue yet, we have plenty of time.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #32) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:33 am

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@Morton: Honestly I never believed meta to be an accurate scumtell. But you clearly show he is purposefully doing it now.

His play has become outright ridiculous, and to have him in a situation like LyLo is simply not going to happen. The only reason I was not voting him was due to everybody saying it was his norm.

However, with the addition of your insight and the realization that I am not voting, I will definitely vote him for this crap.

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Post Post #225 (isolation #33) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:00 am

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In post 224, Jackal711 wrote:Okay, fine.

VOTE: Jackal711


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Post Post #227 (isolation #34) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 5:18 am

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This isn't a newbie game anymore, I'm not backing off because he self voted. Hammer that after he gives his info.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #35) » Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:47 pm

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This is absolutely ridiculous.

I want Jackal dead on the grounds of prohibiting the town from actually moving forward.

On the downside, being anti town and being scum are two different things.

It annoys the crap outta me that he can get away with this crap behavior though.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:50 am

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In post 236, Jackal711 wrote:Scum these days are apparently too smart to fall for that anymore...

I have, in the past, caught scum with that gambit. In a 2-scum setup, sacrificing 1 town for a near-guaranteed scum lynch the next day is overall a good trade.


And then he goes and covers it up by saying it was a gambit.

The problem with your "gambit" is this.

Somebody hammering doesn't make them scum. So you dying wouldn't have caught any scum.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #37) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:14 am

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Gonna get poked if I don't say something.

Waiting on Rach.

Try to keep the discussion to a min till the massclaim is finished. Don't want scum getting any ideas off of town discussion so they can fake their actions.
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Post Post #303 (isolation #38) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:14 am

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And by massclaim I obviously mean action claims.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #39) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 11:44 am

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popcorn it to someone
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Post Post #309 (isolation #40) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:52 pm

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In post 308, Venmar wrote:You've been popcorn'd.
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Post Post #311 (isolation #41) » Sun Jul 22, 2012 5:21 pm

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Do it.

Only scum have reason to hold back.

Just claim your action.
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If it is because you protected Jackal, then just say it. Because at this point that is all I can see you would hold back for.

I will claim, even if I wasn't popcorn'd. Mort didn't have a single reason to be last to claim. But I don't have any problem claiming my action so I'll just go ahead.

I did not take an action. I did not find anybody town enough to be protected and knew someone else would protect Rach, also I figured that the less amount of actions flying around the more likely it would be to sort through them to figure out the vary degrees of sanity of our doctors.
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I'm sure you have a reason behind the question but I don't understand why he would choose me/mort over Rach. I wasn't aware of popcorn techniques, whenever I did it I would just kinda throw it to anyone.
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I would continually hound you due to the fact that it didn't make sense to hide that information.

Also, I didn't hound you continually, I made the assumption and then moved on to claim before you just to get you to stop being a big baby about it.

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Post Post #330 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:08 am

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In post 325, Mortontfrh wrote:Didn't make sense to hide that information? How so? Town shouldn't care whether or not I was withholding information or not considering they had no reason to do anything other than claim their night action out right. Scum on the other hand could only benefit from having more information when deciding what they should claim.


As a town we decided that a popcorn mass actionclaim was the way to go.

Instead of following our predetermined path, you resisted. This is where the problem lies.

You should have simply claimed your action when you were popcorned. You had no reason to not claim the action.

Understand what I'm saying? Personally I think you are telling the truth. But you not claiming your action was a problem with no town motivation.

yellowbounder wrote:Not really sure we can work out much about our sanities from one night's round of protections. Lots of ifs and buts. Another night would be more conclusive.


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Post Post #336 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:20 am

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Nobody was town enough to protect except for Rach. Even though it was deemed that she would not be a likely choice for a scum kill. I had no fear in Rach's death and did not find anybody else worthy of my protect. (I was correct in my assumption that Rach would not die.)

However, like all actions there is repercussions. The downfall of me not taking an action is that we cannot figure out my sanity easily.

I think that PoE will solve that problem, anywho.

Also, I would like to point out the possibility of scum not killing anyone in an attempt to screw with us figuring out our sanities.


Like yellow said, we can't know anything for sure just yet. But more nights will solve that problem. We should focus on scumhunting as well.

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Post Post #337 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:22 am

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I was hardcore ninja'd, I began writing that post in response to post 331
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Post Post #346 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 23, 2012 12:42 pm

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In post 339, Venmar wrote:@Zachrulez - Who is scum?
@Robocopter- Who is scum?


Very good question.

However I think that a better question is, who is town?

In which case I would say (In a top to bottom in towniness level)

Me - Obv reasons. (Because I'm so sexy of course)
Rach- More obv reasons (Not as sexy though, but she does a mean dance)
Zach - I have felt overall town vibes from Zach and have him not in my scumpool right now
Venmar - Has done some scumhunting, I would've questioned me not doing an action as well. Has done some thought and even if it is false(Which I don't know yet), then he still attempted. And I believe the attempt was genuine.

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Mort - His refusal to not send in an action intrigues me. I would like to see his response before categorizing him. I think he is town though.

Scum

Yellow - PoE
Fu - PoE
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No no. I never said that it was only PoE. I just didn't give more reasons than PoE.

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Indeed there is a typo.

send in an action ought be, "reveal his action"

Dunno what the heck I was thinking.

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hur i am
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Post Post #395 (isolation #52) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 4:30 am

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Venmar V Zach is TvT imo
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Post Post #403 (isolation #53) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:44 am

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They were strong scum reads.

He thought they were scum.

They died.

They flipped town.

What is there not to get, Mort? I don't see what you are getting at
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Post Post #405 (isolation #54) » Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:15 pm

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Ummm. No.

Nobody wanted to kill Jackal because it was normal for Jackal to act like an imbecile scummy VI.

That doesn't mean he doesn't think he was scum. That means that we didn't want to kill him because of his meta.

He thought he was scum, we didn't kill him (Even though we wanted to). He has to rethink his reads because he died during the night and flipped town.

Thus. His two scumreads turned out to be town. Thus he needs to rethink.

I'm not defending Venmar but you are blatantly misrepping him.
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Aren't you dead?
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In post 411, Robocopter87 wrote:Aren't you dead?


Nevermind that. I screwed up games.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #57) » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:13 am

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Rach is so lucky she is confirmed. I'd be all up in her grill if she wasn't.

To answer whoever the heck asked me about my scumreads.

It is currently yellowbounder and funduxuzhbuuzbguzbavsbdkjhsd
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Post Post #419 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:43 pm

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In post 416, FuDuzn wrote:VOTE: Morton

Might as well just go ahead and vote.


VOTE: Fuduzn

Way to wagon.

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Post Post #422 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 30, 2012 3:38 pm

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Are you kidding?

Look at his ISO, he never says a word about Mort being scum until he says that Mort might be scum out of a group of three.

And now he just happens to place a vote on someone who has a little bit of pressure?

I call BS. He doesn't have any case on Mort.

Mort is pretty obvtown, btw. The fact that he wished to conceal his action doesn't make sense at all from scum POV. Scum would definitely like to make sure that they state their action clearly in order to not be trapped by misinformation. Plus he is making genuine attempts at scumhunting (Even if they are weird and false). He is trying. I believe him to be town.
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Confirmable? How? Sorry did I miss something?
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There isn't a vig in this game.

Also you have to remember that the scum is lying about their actions. You may simply be a quack doctor with scum shooting Jackal. There is plenty of possibilities.

You aren't confirmed at all.
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Correction: Naive doctor with scum shooting Jackal.
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No it doesn't stand at all.

Unless you add the words, "am I voting mort for" to the end of it then it doesn't stand at all.
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"wtf am I voting mort for"? That is proper english.

STOP AVOIDING THE QUESTION.

WHY ARE YOU VOTING MORTS? ON WHAT GROUNDS IS HE SCUM?

YOU JUST VOTED SOMEONE AND DIDNT EXPLAIN WHY.

Why did you vote Mort?
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In post 433, FuDuzn wrote:Again not proper english, there is only one Mort in this game.....not multiple 'Morts'.

But I digress, you mean why am I voting the person who refused to claim what his Night action was until everyone else claimed? Even after being questioned on it repeatedly?

And the person who tried claiming a vig role?

Ya, why in the world would I vote that guy?


If your goal is to provoke me then you are doing a good job.

What is scummy about withholding a night action?

He claimed "vig" after you voted.

I believe Mort to be town, but I am not defending him. This isn't about Mort. Its about you and why you didn't talk about your reasoning behind voting Mort.

I need something better than a sarcastic comment and some rhetorical questions (that don't even follow).
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I felt that I should make it clear anyway.

You gave questions for answers. Not a single quote. Not a single connection. You gave nothing. When your post gets longer than five sentences then maybe I'll consider it a case.

I've been told that it can be rather dry when I am in a tired state. Which I am.
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Well, kinda. Sorta. Pretty much.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #68) » Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:57 am

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In post 442, FuDuzn wrote:Please read 434 and tell me that isn't scum.

There is an appeal to wifom so hardcore, and an attemt at seperation from Robo.

And of course Robo is trying to push me away from Morton. If Mort is scum then Robo is pretty clearly his partner.


Alright. You still have failed to provide a case. Good job.

Continue beating around the bush. It won't save you.

Go make a case.

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Suspecting a person just because he voted you?

Venmar wrote:- Mother of OMGUS.


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Way to make a case, Fu.

Just keep ignoring it. I'm sure your vote will eventually be lost in the mess and you won't have to actually contribute.
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I'm talking directly at Fu.

He has failed to make a case.

He has failed to give any reasoning whatsoever besides two questions that were supposed to mean something but don't make sense.

He is coasting. I do not let scum coast.
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In post 462, FuDuzn wrote:For the love of.....

Why do I have to make giant walls to make a case? Mort is scum in his actions and posts today, they are there, now go look at them. You don't agree with me, fair enough, but the attack on me I am not getting. And here is a fourth sentence. And now here is a fifth sentence.

Now there is five senteces(six if you count this one, and seven actually if you want to get technical). Oh shit and eigth sentence, I am going crazy now!


Which actions? Which posts?

I never said to make a giant wall, but you haven't given anything at all. The fact that you have to make a joke in order to propel your posts over 5 sentences in length means you need to post more content and less fluff.
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You called his actions and posts scummy. Only action you've specifically mentioned is the refusal to release the night action. Which I asked why that was scummy but you did not explain.

Also, if that was the reason for it, then why did you decide to vote him now for it and not before?
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Post Post #487 (isolation #73) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:05 am

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In post 472, FuDuzn wrote:Ven, I have been waffling on Zach all game. Everytime I want to put a solid vote on him something in my brain says not to. If push comes to shove though I will switch to Zach.

And Robo, didn't I say it has been all of his actions and posts today and not just his refusal to reveal his night action?


WHICH POSTS

WHICH ACTIONS

AND THEN YOU GO AND VOTE ZACH AND TOTALLY DROP YOUR VOTE ON MORT

WHY DONT YOU JUST CLAIM SCUM

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Post Post #490 (isolation #74) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:09 am

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In post 489, FuDuzn wrote: But, not sure why you don't think I made a case. Your posts seemed so blatant that I felt that it would be obvious to everyone why I thought you were scummy.


Even after I specifically asked you to explain them? You did not explain why they were scummy. Saying they were blatant doesn't work because if they really were blatant then Mort would have been lynched right now.

You didn't explain them because you couldn't explain them because you didn't actually have anything on him because you are scum.

And now you jumped off that vote onto Zach. And your reasoning is meta and that is total BS.
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Post Post #492 (isolation #75) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:29 am

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Referenced =/= explained
Referenced =/= case

You simply said he did scummy stuff.

And just because you said it doesn't mean it is true. You need to explain it.

Meta is worthless. Past games do not effect this one directly. Using past game actions to determine this games scum does not work. Meta is worthless.

Yeah there are other people, you'd like it if I got off your back for being totally scummy, wouldn't you? That would be just peachy.
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Post Post #503 (isolation #76) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:42 pm

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Alright, Fu doesn't know how to quote, Fu doesn't know how to explain.

Fu I am attacking you specifically because you did something without any explanation whatsoever. Then when I asked you for an explanation, you simply said that it was blatantly obvious and that his actions and posts today made him scummy.

When I asked you which posts and actions, you continued to not post them and have since been fighting against doing it.

So at this point I have some hypotheses:

A. You didn't have a reason and did it just because and now have to backtrack and switch to Zach to avoid major damage.
B. You had a reason but don't remember them so now have to backtrack and switch to Zach to avoid major damage.
C. You are super stubborn and a deterrent to the town and now have to backtrack and switch to Zach to avoid major damage.

In all of these, you switch to Zach. Your reasoning for Zach is almost worse than for Mort. This time it is Meta. Which can easily be twisted by town and scum and thus not useable.

I never said that you were wrong that you called Mort scum, I just wanted to know WHY you thought he was scum. That is all I asked and you refused to explain. So pardon me for focusing on you. I wil not stop focusing on you, especially since you asked me to get off your back.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #77) » Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:43 pm

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In post 502, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 501, FuDuzn wrote:The only real thing that jumped out at me about the timing of the claims was Morts insistance that he goes last.


If it's scummy... why exactly is it?


THATS WHAT I'M SAYING AND HE REFUSES TO EXPLAIN
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Post Post #511 (isolation #78) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:34 pm

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KILL FUDUZN WITH A PASSION
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Post Post #512 (isolation #79) » Fri Aug 03, 2012 6:35 pm

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In post 509, Venmar wrote:My vote is where I want it to be. I won't be around for deadline, I am going to be asleep at 2:00 AM.


Look at the amount that Zach has done for town.
Look at the amount Fu has done.
Look at my ruggedly handsome face and apologize for doubting me.
Then vote Fuduzn

Thanks bro
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Post Post #522 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:41 pm

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In post 520, Venmar wrote:Just felt like saying this.. I called Morton to be more likely town, and I had no interest in a FuDuzn lynch.

ZachRulez or RoboCopter, one of you two are scum gentlemen.


I targeted you. I thought you were the most town and with Morton being a vig I figured the odds of me killing you were slim.

Yes we seem to have a dilemma on our hands.

Now you can't simply push it down to just me and Zach, unless I am missing something then you aren't cleared either. Rach however, is confirmed.


However I don't think it is you, I feel you are entirely town.

Zach however, is left due to PoE and this,

In post 446, yellowbounder wrote:Aw, come on Zach, I was starting to suspect you were town, don't ruin it.


I don't think that any scum player would target
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Post Post #523 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:41 pm

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lol cut out, lemme finish that
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Post Post #524 (isolation #82) » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:42 pm

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"would target a town player like this, he acts like he think he is scum but doesn't push it. Simply moving on and leaving Zach alone. That doesn't sit well with me."
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Post Post #526 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:09 pm

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Uhh, you are the only one left here. Just claim, why would you even ask?
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Post Post #530 (isolation #84) » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:52 pm

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Zach wrote:Yeah Robo guess what? He wanted me to move my vote and threatened suspicion to get me to do it. That's textbook scum on town.

That you want to paint that as something else is interesting.


You are hypocritical to the max, you got "wanted me to move my vote and threatened suspicion" out of the original quote.

In post 467, Zachrulez wrote:
In post 446, yellowbounder wrote:Aw, come on Zach, I was starting to suspect you were town, don't ruin it.


I took this as a veiled threat to move my vote, which means I'm totally not going to.


Seriously, what the heck is a veiled threat to move your vote? The only person capable of moving your vote is you, so if he just pulled an OMGUS post then why the heck would you be concerned about his "veiled threat"? Besides, no duh he wanted you to move your vote, regardless of alignment nobody should want people to vote for them (obviously jester but thats it)

Threatened suspicion? Who the heck is actually concerned that someone will be suspicious of them? Not town.

So no, "wanting you to move your vote and threatening suspicion" is not going to cut it.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #85) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:41 am

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Alright, posting VC and being all,"I was the only person right" doesn't change the fact about the way he acted towards you.

It wasn't bad bussing, you were acting like any normal townie would have (because thats how you are supposed to play scum) and you voted him because he did something.

You didn't do anything super incriminating. He did.

Besides, it isn't that insane of a theory, a lot of scum bus like that when they know the wagon won't happen so they come back after their partner dies and be all like, "I called him being scum".

YB wasn't going to die Day Two, you knew that and bussed him a bit and he very very badly responded towards you.
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Post Post #541 (isolation #86) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:36 pm

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4 posts!?!?!?!

obvscum

Down for a No Lynch, however who should protect Rach?
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Post Post #543 (isolation #87) » Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:10 pm

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/facepalm

perhaps it isn't your fault, I've been told my humor sense is super dry. But it was a joke.

Why would I attempt to lynch someone when we could create better odds for a scum death? Why risk it?
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Post Post #550 (isolation #88) » Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:42 am

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Sorry was away yesterday, I don't really have time to make a super post but since you aren't asking much of me I can make a short thing.

I am down for no lynch.

DO NOT NO LYNCH YET.

I want more discussion about the Rach protects and I want more discussion in general. We have plenty of time to sort things out. No need to rush.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #89) » Sat Aug 11, 2012 5:55 am

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Ummmmmm

What the frick guys
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Post Post #554 (isolation #90) » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

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I can agree with those protections.

For clarification:

Me and Venmar protect Rach
Zach protects one of us
Rach protects one of us

Sounds like a plan.

Probably should wait for the V/LAs to fade off before hammering the no lynch.
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Post Post #555 (isolation #91) » Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:17 am

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*us* being Me and Venmar
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Post Post #558 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 11, 2012 3:44 pm

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Alright then.

Plan Taco Bell is a go. The meerkats are in the bag.

Rach if you are down then hammer the no lynch.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #93) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:54 am

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I honestly think that my failure to send in a kill night One screwed the scum over.

Sorry YB, I tried.

Great game guys! Hope to see you all around.

izak, you did a great job modding, hope to see you around.
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Post Post #571 (isolation #94) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:12 am

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In post 568, FuDuzn wrote:I am really glad Robo was scum, at least it explains his incredible murderboner for me and not listening to reason.

And I guess Zach is only scum in 50% of the games I have played with him now.


Actually no.

I listen to reason, where didn't I?

No offense, but you were a super simple mislynch.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #95) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:21 am

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Well I couldn't shift to YB! I like to distance but I didn't want him to die.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:29 am

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In post 574, RachMarie wrote:Woah... Why did I not kill him the night before then?

I am confused? I protected Robo two nights in a row...

Great job everyone.


Wow, I see what you mean.

Oh I understand!

Well since the protection took place on a tuesday night in the middle of august during a full moon meteor shower the Beatles rose from the dead and flew to Chicago where they sent out a radio signal and distracted izakthegoomba at the exact moment he was figuring out the kills.

Thus, I LIVE.

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Post Post #581 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 pm

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Lol YB made a mistake and asked me to do it.

I almost didn't send in a kill last night too. Was reminded by the Image thread that I was in this game.
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