Mini 1354: Vedere le Viste! Game Over!

[Phillammon]

The arguments heat up once more. Some of the crowd of onlookers move round and take RXK's body away, peeling it off the white paving stones.

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

Luckyjt

- 4 - Scumhunter, McStab, Furcolow, Axxle - (L-2)

yabbaguy

- 2 - Bub Bidderskins, Arugula - (L-4)

Players not voting: Konowa, Luckyjt, TheWorst, Thomith, yabbaguy

Deadline for Day 2 is in (expired on 2012-07-30 00:00:00)

[Scumhunter]

Konowa, I would agree with the assessment that mafia is at its roots a game with varying amounts of wifom.

I also want to acknowledge that I did see your bordeaux comment previously and realize that you were acknowledging the wifom.

I guess what I want to say is that I think that multiple scum jumping on a wagon one after each other is completely plausible, especially with the counterwagon being scum, and don't really follow/agree with your reasoning that soda scum is less likely.

[Konowa]

Konowa - 4 - Scumhunter, SodaSpirit17,

Tangion

, yabbaguy - (L-3)
SodaSpirit17 - 2 - TheWorst, Thomith - (L-5)

Tangion

- 7 - Bub Bidderskins, Konowa,

RXK

, Arugula, Axxle, McStab, Furcolow - (LYNCH)


I agree that it is plausible. I do not agree that it is probable. However, I find myself going back and going over the plausibility versus probability of everyone on the Tangion wagon being town. Then I really do need a glass of wine.

That being said, I find it a little disconcerting that no one is mentioning Thomith anymore. I would like everyone’s take on Thomith’s interaction with Tangion and whether is he is likely to be scum or not. If you have already done this, please forgive me and just reference.

[Arugula]

I think Thomith is the third scum.

[Luckyjt]

Here we go since I seem to not be shaking off the wagon I will claim. Im good as dead now. i am a cop. a role cop to be exact. It should have been implied that I was a power role by refusing to claim, but since none of you seem to have got it then whatever. Scum got what they wanted, I claimed. This also explains why I said I would be pissed if I got lynch. This is my first time ever having a power role in this site and i was excited about it. post ed my opening thoughts on my first read through and boom now Im about to get lynched.

[Konowa]

Who is scum and why? With a vote.

[Konowa]

Also, did soda perform an action N1? Yes or no only.

[Luckyjt]

vote: Mcstab

There happy I voted.
No

[Konowa]

Who else is scum?

Do I really want to go down the outguess the mod path? Halp!

[Phillammon]

Due to several requests from multiple players (and mod agreement), Furcolow is retroactively subject to Wisdom of the Crowds. Elmo TeH AzN replaces Furcolow effective immediately.

[Scumhunter]

Here we go since I seem to not be shaking off the wagon I will claim. Im good as dead now. i am a cop. a role cop to be exact. It should have been implied that I was a power role by refusing to claim, but since none of you seem to have got it then whatever. Scum got what they wanted, I claimed. This also explains why I said I would be pissed if I got lynch. This is my first time ever having a power role in this site and i was excited about it. post ed my opening thoughts on my first read through and boom now Im about to get lynched.

Who did you investigate you night 1 and what was your result?

[Scumhunter]

I think Thomith is the third scum.

This.^ I don't think anyone has forgot Thomith.

[Elmo TeH AzN]

Hi Ill read this up later. Fiancee's birthday is today

[Bub Bidderskins]

@Lucky: What do you think of the fact that role cop is usually a scum role?

[McStab]

Here's my problem with Lucky's claim. While town role cop does exist in Mini Normals, it's certainly more commonly a scum role. Another problem is it's impossible to substantiate the alignment; we can substantiate that he's a role cop, but not that he's town.

There is a way to semi-substantiate it; if the mafia flips some PRs like Roleblocker, Strongman, Ninja etc. then it would make sense to include it. Problem is, the only scum we know who flipped is a vanilla goon. Role cop's are useless to determine vanilla goons. Given the amount of people and the fact that the only mafioso who flipped is a non-PR, I would imagine that we're going up against two more scum, with one PR amongst them (likely a Rolecop or Roleblocker).

I buy Lucky's claim that he's a role cop, simply because it would be suicidal to attempt it without actually being a role cop; but I don't buy that he's pro-town. I'd bet the last scum is amongst Yabba, Thomith or Arugula (moreso the first two, though).

[Luckyjt]

I replaced in yesterday during the day phase. Soda was out during day 1 day phase. No one was active during the night phase thus no investigation. I believe I understand why we have a town cop because even though I am a cop my investigation only says vanilla or not basically. So its rather vague.

And yes I know role cop is usually a scum align role, but the purpose of my role seems to be to narrow Power roles from vanillas to somewhat reduce who is suspicious. Its not an exact answer. I was prepared to claim just cop since I am in a risky position in being lynched and for town that would not be beneficial to lynch a cop. I was afraid to claim role cop since it is usually a scum role but i wanted/want to be completely honest with my claim while not going in with too much detail in order to not get modkilled or anything.

@Konowa look at my reads post. I really summed up already who I believe are the possible scum. I dont like repeating myself over and over again when the answers are a page away.

[Bub Bidderskins]

I think we should hold off lynching Lucky at least until tomorrow, when we can maybe get some results from him.

[Furcolow]

Afraid not.

[Furcolow]

Nope

[Furcolow]

Please stop

[Furcolow]

Nope.

[Konowa]

Vote: Thomith

Going back over everything, I think he is most likely to be scum at the moment due to interactions with known scum.

Lucky, my problem with your list is that you list four people possibly being scum. There are no definitive reads in that anywhere. People hedging their bets is never town.

[Phillammon]

Thomith has failed to respond to his prod. Seeking replacement.

[Phillammon]

Venmar replaces Thomith effective immediately.

[Venmar]

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen.

I am currently reading up, give me a bit to get caught up.