Subtle, Reck
I've been reading up on this and trying to give you the most complete answer with all of the history in mind, and here we go:
My primary approach behind titles has always been "By the community for the community" and part of that is accessibility for all (or, as we've grown, for most). Meet based titles are not inherently bad titles, but neither are they inherently good, they are instead inherently
exclusive
. The problem with these types of titles (meet, scumchat, LoL, skype, etc) is that they have a context that cannot be researched, or wouldn't be understood if it could. I remember saying back when Pie's was in discussion that it could be reattacked in a couple of months if it had staying power, but looking back now, it wasn't really about permanence.
To explain the difference between these two (singers and pies): Singer's feels accessible ("Yeah man, she has a habit of drunkposting, then she hosted this meet and someone posted a thread, here I'll link it. Plus she's awesome"), whereas Pie's feels like an inside joke ("He never drinks...except when he does! He never buttfucks...except when he does!").
To put it another way, Singer's joke is like "Where do cows go for entertainment? The mooooovies!" Whereas Pie's feels like "Why do lions get lost? Because Jungle Is Massive."
In post 636, VisMaior wrote:HOw about "meet based titles are ok as long as you adequately detail the joke behind it on the wiki for those who wish to understand". I`d be for that one.
This is a good idea, but not the right execution. VisMaior definitely hits the point that joke needs to be accessible though. However, just putting a story on the wiki does not validate a title.
I'm not saying that meet titles are bad, it's that they need to be accessible and they need to be a representation of that person within the community. They may feel like I'm holding them to a higher standard, but that's simply because to you (the people at the meet) "oh it's so funny and so perfect, why is Oman being a whiny cunt about this?!" Remember, I wasn't there, I need to access the title as much as anyone else.
Finally, if I say we should reattack a title later, and that person stops posting on the site completely for 6 months, well...it gives some interesting context.
So hopefully that lays out the policy a bit more. And hopefully the discussion can continue with a new focus on how we all feel about the title itself.
It's unfortunate that good oral sex excuses bad chemistry. - Korts