Scummer of Love Invitational: Day 4 - The day the music died

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VOTE: evilpacman for being the first guy on the list I haven't met.

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lol, I miss you and your British humor.

*humour

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Is it just me or is axxle actually scum.

No, it's just you that's actually scum.

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I'm getting a Bad Feeling (TM) from Brandi. I don't know. It's not necessarily scummy.

However, I see what she means about Gamma's joking manner. It's good enough for me.

VOTE: Gamma

I think I see where you guys are going with the UN policy lynch, I'm just not feeling it.

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Btw, get your votes the

fuck

off me, people.

and... there we go.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Uberninja

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Btw, get your votes the

fuck

off me, people.

and... there we go.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Uberninja

Did you predict this responce before he made it?

I thought at the first chance of another wagon he would join and try to shake you guys off. He only did the latter, but that was good enough for me.

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I thought at the first chance of another wagon he would join and try to shake you guys off. He only did the latter, but that was good enough for me.

If that was your scum prediction what was your town prediction?

He'd continue ignoring the wagon, maybe telling us how great of a player he is again while not playing the game.

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I thought at the first chance of another wagon he would join and try to shake you guys off. He only did the latter, but that was good enough for me.

If that was your scum prediction what was your town prediction?

He'd continue ignoring the wagon, maybe telling us how great of a player he is again while not playing the game.

What was the basis for those 2 predictions?

What I'd do as scum + how vain uberninja can get

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Hey, checking in. I'm currently on V/LA cuz secks and stuff, so hopefully Nacho's around to post.
Theoretically I'll have time to post/read this game anyway...~obligations~ and all. >_>
I had a question for chamber but he already answered it.
Uh...that's about all I noticed.
Oh, Llama, is what you stated about MoS indicative of MoSscum, or just generic scum?

~singer

If you're still around, thoughts on me? on UN?

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Jealously level... rising!

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If MoS's playstyle on forum is like his playstyle IRL then he's probtown since he isn't interested in the game at all.

UN's starting to play this game very townlike to me since I voted so

Unvote

Rereading to see if I can get more reads on people.

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Actually, moving back to:

Vote: Gamma

He's posted a decent number of times, but I don't see any content from it other than a lukewarm defense of a UN policy lynch.

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Sorry, thought this was rhetorical or something.

I thought at the first chance of another wagon he would join and try to shake you guys off. He only did the latter, but that was good enough for me.

If that was your scum prediction what was your town prediction?

He'd continue ignoring the wagon, maybe telling us how great of a player he is again while not playing the game.

Kind of hard to ignore a L-1 wagon on page 3 dude. And you expect me as town to not play the game?

Uhhhh.... if you're town...

at all

... then

what the fuck are you thinking?

I think it's pretty easy to ignore a L-1 wagon at page 3, but I probably haven't playing as long to know better.

I wouldn't 'not play the game' but I expected you to 'not play the game' and 'shoot the shit' a bit more.

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I think it's pretty easy to ignore a L-1 wagon at page 3

(but not intent to hammer)

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HEY GUIZ JUST WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT MY SHIFT KEY GOT BASHED IN SO I MIGHT BE STUCK IN THIS MODE FOR A LIL WHILE

NOT THAT ANY OF YOU WILL MIND I'M SURE.

copy and paste words from google...

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@LlamaFluff: Isn't "Lol. Reaction Test!" something UN just does? I remember he started a thread about it before.

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I suspect axxle didn't get that katsuki was making a joke at llamas expense, so saying that now.

His vote on me was in all caps, and I had only skimmed Llama's ragepost at that point, so I thought he could have been serious. And I was joking myself, unless he really does want to do that then good for him.

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Also what the hell does the Quizzle thing mean

COPY PASTE BAM
Green cards - "Quizzle": Quizzle cards ask trivia questions. Example: "Which 2 of the following are NOT songs by the Beach Boys?" A) Last Summer B) Surf's Up C) Get Around D) Surfin' Safari or E) Sand in My Crack (Figure it out!)

Getting the Quizzle wrong (at least for this one) results in basically the mod voting for me. I'm pretty sure I'll get it correct though. Getting it correct and a bonus question right will give me double voting powers for the day (won't happen though, too difficult).

I will claim if you guys want me too. Not doing so now since LlamaFluff unvoted since the hammer threat so there seems to be some disagreement on that point?

Axxle if you're town give me one good reason why I shouldn't hammer.

... because I'm town. The biggest reason I'm being voted for is the flipflop on the UN thing and sheeping Brandi's read even though I had a slight bad gutread on her. Is that right? Regarding Brandi, I don't really trust my gutreads yet and I felt stronger about Gamma then her, so there you go. I didn't want to policy lynch UN early on (giving him the benefit of the doubt because I've never played a policy lynch worthy game with him), and later when he started acting scummy I wanted to lynch him for being scummy.

I'm really not understanding UN's play at the moment. I'm guessing this is why he's policy lynched?

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UN, what has Llama done since this:

Actually, reading over his ISO even more... yeah. I am threatening to hammer. I trust this.

Claim, Axxle.

That's changed your opinion?

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I want to know why MoS is voting Axxle now but brushed me off with him as a "no clue" type read just a little bit earlier when the reasons he is voting Axxle seems to come from earlier in the game.

I'm voting Axxle for his posts DIRECTLY preceding my vote. What the actual fuck...?

Giving that he wasnt voting for UN at that point, somewhat hard to believe.

No, it's believable. I was clarifying what was happening and MoS called bullshit on it. I just had different expectations from UN than MoS did.

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I have a high enough opinion of him that I don't see any way that he's not being

willfully

ignorant of the facts here. Which means that he's more than likely scum, because town don't have a good reason to do anything that retarded.

Looks like we have a nice 1-2 on scum right now. Sweet deal.

Are you thinking that we're scumbuddies here? Or that there's more than one scumteam?

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I have no intention of lynching anyone other than you today.

You're cute when you try to act smart.

I'm willing to policy lynch at this point.

Vote: UberNinja

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Sent in my answers for Quizzle, wish me luck! (good luck preferably)

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I don't see why not:
Name four people attended SoL, but did not go to the Zoo or Shouthouse?

extra credit: Name everyone who went on the rollercoaster.

I have no idea what the answer for the second one was, but my answers for the first one were:

Spoiler:

Quadz
evilpacman
panzerjager
Uberninja

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I'm assuming these quizzles are fun little asides like this.

Pardon me while I go drink vodka straight from the bottle.

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Pardon me while I go drink vodka straight from the bottle.

Not actually doing this, just testing to see if I get another quizzle.

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It's who did not go to either of them.

I know none of them went to Shout House since I was there.

I'm pretty sure none of them went to the zoo because of the timing of it. Not positive though.

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Should be able to catch up tomorrow. Quick skim leaves me somewhat lost though.

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Can anyone tell me where in Gamma's iso he cares *at all* about lynching scum? I'm very happy with my vote here and encourage others to join me. He says he'll post something soon, so that might change things.

I don't understand the Glork wagon. It seems like it was pushed by Wyrd's 310, but Wyrd didn't think it was enough to warrant a vote. Seriously, none of the 3 votes on him explain themselves at all.

Panzer is sheeping like crazy, which reads scummy to me. If gamma's wagon continues to be non existent that's where I'm looking next.

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Gamma's post 361 seems like a solid, town motivated case, and one I agree with.

VOTE: evilpacman

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Weren't you just calling Gamma scum earlier?

Yes, yes I did. I also said:

He says he'll post something soon, so that might change things.

My specific read on him was that he was completely void of town, and therefore scum. But that vote felt town enough to me that I didn't feel bad about sheeping it.

I did something similar with Brandi earlier in the day.

In general, my reads are very much flexible on Day 1 anyway.

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Weren't you just calling Gamma scum earlier?

Yes, yes I did. I also said:

He says he'll post something soon, so that might change things.

My specific read on him was that he was completely void of town, and therefore scum. But that vote felt town enough to me that I didn't feel bad about sheeping it.

I did something similar with Brandi earlier in the day.

In general, my reads are very much flexible on Day 1 anyway.[/quote]

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MoS actually is scum this game.

Not enough for a vote though?

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_______ is town/scum. Lololololol.[/noexplanation]

This shit fucking pisses me off.

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MoS, I think you are lynched by my count.

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I'm hoping I can help more tomorrow. This game hasn't exactly been straightforward so far.

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VOTE: evilpacman18

He never did get back to us. Why did that wagon dissolve again?

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I would like to hear the reasoning on UN. Is your vote for policy lynch or scum read?

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VOTE: Wyrd

I'm getting town vibes from MattP, and because of that I trust his read on Wyrd.

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Actually make it Kat then fate then axxle then reck

I'm not sure I follow why Kat should be lynched before fate. I think fate flipping would tell us more about Kat's alignment then Kat flipping would tell us about fate's alignment.

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UN isn't playing terribly so he probably is scum.

Is that a scumtell for UN? I'm terrible at searching for games on here. The handful that I found him in he was town.

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CDB's play here reminds me a bit too much of his play in the just completed Great Idea Mafia (where he was scum): http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

But that might be because he's a good player.

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VOTE: UberNina

I never policy lynch Katsuki, the fuck slander is this.

Now UN

THERES a good policy lynch

holy shit I'm USUALLY down for katsuki wagon but not THIS game

I find these two things contradictory (and scummy)

There's of course this gem:

Unvote:
Vote: MoS

MoS is town don't care

And endless stream of ALLCAPS make me unable to read the rest of his iso for unfun reasons, so I can only assume I'm voting in the right place and suggest all others vote here too.


PEdit:

Vote: Glork

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"heres CDBs meta so he could be scum or just good iunno"

His response seemed town enough to me.

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2) No, you idiot. He was responding to me including myself on the list of people I wouldn't lynch without a role-confirmed guilty. It's called being facetious.

I guess this is right because Katsuki hasn't been pushing your lynch at all

Vote: Katsuki

I don't really care at this point whether Katsuki or Wyrd gets lynched at this point, but I'm pretty sure they're of the same alignment, and that alignment is scum.

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PEdit:
Vote: Glork

Unvote vote Axxle

I don't see how my vote on Glork was a scumtell. Katsuki said he had a cop-read on him and, like singer/nacho, I decided to follow him since if he was telling the truth we found scum in Glork and if he was lying we found scum in Katsuki. I'm not used to players jokingly claiming roles without making clear that it was a joke.

FOS: chamber

It seems like you tried being town until you were considered town by most of the players here, and then stopped playing since you didn't want that read to change. And now you're hopping on my wagon over something inconsequential.

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Not a hammer by my count.

I am a delayed vig. Panzer is dying this evening.

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Specifically I'm UV Radiation. I feel terribly about burning you all during SoL so I'm mafiascum aligned, trying to kill your enemies.

Burning is the kill flavor.

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axxle can you change your target to wyrd? let's lynch panzer's shit now.

No, I'm a delayed vig, not a day vig...

Why'd you target Panzer?

He was a light scumread, then he voted for MoS in a scummy way which increased that read. It seemed like quite a few others had a scumread on him toward the end there, including Brandi who most people seemed to consider obvtown.

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I sent the kill order last night, and it will occur during the lynch scene.

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I think my play was pretty damn terrible if I was an SK. Worse than my play as town this game.

Would you say it's more likely I'm SK than Wyrd is mafia?

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I think my play was pretty damn terrible if I was an SK. Worse than my play as town this game.

Would you say it's more likely I'm SK than Wyrd is mafia?

Because potentially lynching mafia is much better than mislynching our vig.

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A self vote is too terrible to just let go.

VOTE: Vote: MattP

Reck's reluctance to actually play the game ticks me off too.

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I assume you're rolecop info doesn't help the town?

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*your

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If my target is ever in immediate danger of getting lynched, I'll let you know, otherwise I'd like votes to emerge naturally.

SingerNacho: who is recks team if he is scum? I'd ask the same of Wyrd but I think they already said?

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If my target is ever in immediate danger of getting lynched, I'll let you know, otherwise I'd like votes to emerge naturally.

SingerNacho: who is recks team if he is scum? I'd ask the same of Wyrd but I think they already said?

I would agree with you about your target if I was into this game, but I'm not so would rather not expend wasted effort on someone thats dead anyway. Furthermore I kind of feel that most people are in the same position this game. So this is me requesting that you state your target.

What effort?

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Also: why the hell do you guys still think I'm SK? Not that I really care, but mafia is much more dangerous than SK anyway.

I'm very wary regarding wyrd, but the UN argument is compelling...

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Reck: You all already dead!

FWIW, I would have probably picked someone else if you played yesterday like you played today.

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No, Reck is just trying to get a townie killed as his last scum act.

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@mod: I'm not voting for Glork, I'm not voting.

---Fixed.

actually:

Vote: katsuki

Like others have mentioned, I think him and Wyrd are most likely teammates with Reck and Panzer.

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Acxtually,

Unvote

It seems distinctly possible that there is a You Bitch + You Slut + You Whore scumteam and another scumteam of three. And yes, I say this knowing full well that there has only been one kill each night.

Whether that implicates Axxle or not is something I am currently unsure of.

3/3 sounds like a pretty difficult setup to balance.

Especially when you need quantum synchronicity to explain the censor results.

Hammer fucking Uberninja please.

I just don't see six total scum otherwise. 5:1:10 seems fucking awful for town, especially considering the relative lack of power so far. Scum win in 2 days potentially (mislynch, two townie kills, mislynch, crosskill+townie kill, scum can force a mislynch D3). Tell me how the fuck you balance that, considering our protective role was just an Armored Bodyguard (I assume takes 2 bullets to kill) and 3 townies so far. My role has a random element and isn't *directly* useful either.

No, it's much more likely that it's 3/3/10.

Do some math, Nuwen, and stop being dumb. Reck is either flat-out lying, or it's 3/3/10. Take your pick.

How are you getting these numbers? Reck said there was 4 scum left, meaning we started with 5 in the unlikely event he's telling the truth.

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I'm trying to figure out if CDB is scum or not. His joking manner seems like it's more of his scum meta, but he also seems to be more pushy as scum than he is here. I feel his interactions with panzer are null.

I'll just sheep singer if the two heads agree on the scum read.

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I'm not a cop, so no I don't have a guilty. For those not following along, glork is an inventor of some sort that gave me an FBI 1-shot n1. My vote is completely unrelated to that fact.

What fact is it related to?

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Burning CDB today, did we win?

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"You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille" "YOU BITCH, YOU SLUT, YOU WHORE!"

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I didn't kill CDB. I'm out of shots. Just curious at his reaction. I probably would have targeted Katsuki or EPM if I had shots left.

So Glork, your plan won't work because of my lack of power.

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I'll be voting Katsuki today, but don't want to L-1 just yet.

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I'm curious what you thought would happen after you wrote this:

Fuck this shit. I don't even need to hear from Kats anymore. I gots a game to win.

Sounded like you were welcoming a quickhammer.

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Why bother using it on the scummiest player?

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Could have sworn there were only 7 alive... my mistake.

Also, why would you give a card to singernacho yesterday and not one of your stronger town reads?

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I thought chamber got it two nights ago.

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uh, chamber got it N1, we got it N2, and then no idea about N3.

Right. I forgot how math worked for a sec

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I really have to thank Brandi for the Panzer vig since I basically just sheeped her there. I also should thank MattP, UN, Glork, and not sure who else that validated my suspicions of Reck. Also thanks to all the other obvtown players: CDB at the end there and Nachosinger for most of it.

Also thanks to the mods: the flavor and setup seemed great!

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I also should thank NOT GAMMA who else that validated my suspicions of Reck.

SINGLE TEAR.

also yeah the mods were baller, thanks for everything =D

not sure who else = Gamma