1371: Futurama Mafia! (Game Over!)

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:45 am

Claim: Suicidal lover with the Mod

VOTE:
Ummmmm. I barely know any of you. And by that I mean I only know Tangion.

VOTE: Tangion

For being a scummy **** in Space Mafia w/o actually being scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:07 am

VOTE: Number Q

Q is not a number. Lynch all Liars.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #17 (isolation #2) » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:32 am

Oh! Rofl is in this game. Didn't see that. <3.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #20 (isolation #3) » Thu Aug 30, 2012 2:39 pm

Lol. Q is scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #36 (isolation #4) » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:55 am

Do you have reason to be against that or just policy?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #38 (isolation #5) » Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:57 am

Hurr durr, pidgeon is role-fishing obv scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #40 (isolation #6) » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:00 am

One of you 2 is scum. Probably Acosmist.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:05 am

VOTE: Acosmist
In a game of LoL cant respond right away

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #48 (isolation #8) » Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:29 am

Initial impression is RC/#Q are town.

Acosmist is scum. He isn't scumhunting me, he is hoping I'll say something scummy so he can mislynch.

Proof: He obviously realizes that I know role-fishing is seen as a common scumtell from my sarcasm in 38, so he should be able to conclude that as a scum I would know to avoid dropping what I know is seen as a scumtell. He COULD argue that I'm doing it as WIFOM, but any case based on WIFOM is shit.

43/44 are useless. He is hoping I'll say something that can be construed as scummy. He doesn't even have a case on me at that time. 47 is more of the same. Construing something not scummy as scummy.

I doubt toon fighter is scum mainly because Acosmist definitely is, and I don't see TF wanting to link himself to a buddy so early.

If Acosmist were town, he would have asked me about my question to get a legit reaction.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:42 am

In post 61, Acosmist wrote:
In post 60, DrippingGoofball wrote:Acosmist is a legitimate quicklynch as of now.

So you want:

1. an early end to day 1

2. an early claim

3. a fakeclaim from a townie

And after that, you will fakeclaim.

Well gosh, this was a productive day, Yates! I mean, DGB.

^ is worthy of a lynch.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #71 (isolation #10) » Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:59 am

I would be ok with name claiming, but it seemed like some players are opposed to it for legit reasons? Namely #Q and Venmar.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #76 (isolation #11) » Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:50 am

Fine. Hermes Conrad. Popcorn DGB.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #81 (isolation #12) » Sun Sep 02, 2012 1:04 pm

If Leila is a fake claim, then.... ????

More like ITT: Acosmist's jimmies are rustled because he has mo good fake claim.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #114 (isolation #13) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:56 pm

Lol wtf. Posting from phone. #Q is back on the suspicion list. Especially if acosmist flips scum

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #116 (isolation #14) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:24 pm

I will on both scenarios. I say especially scum because Im not going to give someone conftown status for a box of wine play.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #117 (isolation #15) » Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:41 pm

Eidolon is scum

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #133 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:54 pm

In post 130, roflcopter wrote:
In post 40, AngryPidgeon wrote:One of you 2 is scum. Probably Acosmist.

who was the second person you were referring to in this post? toon fighter?

Yes.

Im slightly LA, in Ireland for work right now. Fortunately 2 of my other games just went to night phase. I have to go to work right now, Ill catchup tonight.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #134 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:57 pm

In post 128, Eidolon wrote:numberQ - the mistake hammer was odd. Something seems genuine about him. the hammer was too reckless to be scum.

WIFOM^WIFOM

I think Eid and RC are looking town though as an initial impression.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #135 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 11, 2012 7:59 pm

Gonna par my vote here until I get home

VOTE: Venmar

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #141 (isolation #19) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 4:13 am

Still in office.

Quick response: agree with #Q. 131 is absurdly scummy.

Talking about kill spec is null. "this is just a bad sign for me" sounds really scummy to me.

The first part of the post is also ridiculous. If you consider the possibility that Eidolon didn't know that Acosmist would flip town, it invalidates Venmar's point entirely. Its so ridiculous its fake.

Le preview edit: Ya Eidolon is town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #151 (isolation #20) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:21 pm

In post 149, Toon Fighter wrote:scumbuddy much? vote: roflcopter

ooooooookkkkk. So this is interesting. Toon Fighter just called Rofl scum for defending Venmar and attacking RC. First of all this makes Toon Fighter obv scum. Not sure what it means about Venmar and Rofl.

UNVOTE: Venmar
VOTE: Toon Fighter

Cheerleading Acosmist's early vote on me

In post 39, Toon Fighter wrote:
In post 37, Acosmist wrote:confirm vote

In post 38, AngryPidgeon wrote:Hurr durr, pidgeon is role-fishing obv scum.

Decides to vote Acosmist for a post that was not remotely scummy, placing vote #5 on the wagon. There were plenty of decent reasons that TF could have listed for this vote, but instead he tried to make his vote look original.

In post 82, Toon Fighter wrote:
In post 79, Acosmist wrote:ITT: scum are really excited that they got main characters as fakeclaims

lolwut?

unvote, vote: Acosmist

Why the hell did you put justification in quotes >.>. Was your vote justified or not??

In post 149, Toon Fighter wrote:In my second post I was confirming my vote on AP, giving his post as a 'justification'

Then there are several gems in this next bit:

In post 149, Toon Fighter wrote:one person who is emitting scum vibes for me today is rofl. He immediately starts attacking rc for his nightkill speculation (which is not bad on itself, and could be useful), and spends the next few posts just defending Venmar, with no evidence whatsoever. scumbuddy much? vote: roflcopter

Accuses Venmar and Rofl of being scum buddies but votes rofl instead of Venmar. Venmar is the bigger wagon, why the hell not vote Venmar if both are scum? Also attacks rofl for this apparently:

In post 129, roflcopter wrote:

In post 127, rapidcanyon wrote:DGB led a lynch on a townie making her an easy mislynch target. I don't see the scum motivation behind killing her. Could it be a vig? Or scum hoping to fake-claim vig later on?

the above is unhelpful and definitely isn't scum hunting. nothing you posted on day one really qualifies as scumhunting either. there's like one blah question to angry pidgeon and a bunch of iioa.

Rofl is right. RC's post was hugely IIOA and speculative. Rofl never said that talking about the NK is a scumtell, he said that RC is blowing air and not providing useful analysis. Toon Fighter twists that into rofl attacking RC for "his nightkill speculation".

Wow. If TF doesn't flip scum then I just dunno. Popcorn TF. Actually forget that. Just lynch him. I don;t even want to hear his imminent fakeclaims.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #176 (isolation #21) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:56 pm

In post 160, roflcopter wrote:ap is scum bussing tf (probably). but tf is 100% scum. everyone should vote him now.

I was the first vote on the wagon >.>

You asked me my thoughts on him and I switched from Venmar to TF. IDK, I guess I see why you find that suspicous. I'm still ightly tossing around the idea of you/Tf scum team because of his vote on you though so lol.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #177 (isolation #22) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 10:57 pm

In post 161, Eidolon wrote:I've seen someone do that before as town, recently - vote for the person that is accused of being the others buddy.

Oh Hi. Im in the thread y'know.

But the difference is that the Venmar wagon was going choo-choo at the time and the Rofl wagon doesn't really have potential.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #178 (isolation #23) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:18 pm

In post 165, Venmar wrote:1. For some, retarded reason NumberQ decides to question town points given out to him... what? Don't take this the wrong way, but I don't see the reasoning behind questioning townreads on yourself, I have only seen this coming from scumplayers in MY experience. It's almost as if #Q is saying he doesn't want people to give him town credits, and rather scum credits, which at this point I would call a mental scumslip. A small, but notable thing for me.

I was going to make this same point.

In post 169, Blastoide wrote:Can you explain why you thought this at the time and why you changed your opinion?
For now he is leaning town, because his recent case seems legit.

Agree. I actually need to go back and reread that part to remember why I thought she was scum.

In post 106, Eidolon wrote:so we already outed two major characters? not really feeling the mass-claim for that reason. futurama has a lot of characters so it doesn't seem like it would be that hard to fake one. we're handing up mafia our power roles and i have some suspicions of people who pushed this without much reason and/or people who avoided the issue.

i'll be able to respond more tomorrow. not sure about the acomist thing yet but i don't think we should rush to a lynch.

Oh right, that.

Ok, Blastoide/Venmar are definitely not scum together. Blastoide's Venmar analysis is rubbing me the wrong way. It reads like: "Ya Venmar has done some things that look scummy. Not too sure about it. IDK. Guess I'll vote him". Mehhhh, I still think they are both town for now I guess. Blastoide is more likely scum than Venmar though.

170 is mega-town.

I really want to talk about 173 but not right now. Reminder to self to bring that up later. I will say that I disagree about 162 being a soft claim. Interesting that you called Rofl TF. Need to note that as well. Also not sure what to make of RC's opinion of Venmar calling #Q scummy for rejecting town points.

#Q is just spewing WIFOM everywhere right now and I don't like it. I'm really uncertain of RC after 173. I don't want to pursue it but the whole post has left a really wtf taste in my mouth. Would like to hear Rofl's opinions on 173.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #179 (isolation #24) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:19 pm

don't want to pursue it

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #180 (isolation #25) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:35 pm

P-p-p-penta post: If TF flips scum Rofl needs to go. He asked me what happened to my TF stance and then when I made a case for TF he accuses me of bussing??

Note that if I were TF's buddy I could have just shrugged it off and kept pushing Venmar. Why make a good case for TF and tunnel him here.

Then TF himself is voting Rofl and making a light case on him that is unlikely to go anywhere give the present opinion of Rofl.

If that isn't a scum team then ...?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #182 (isolation #26) » Wed Sep 12, 2012 11:50 pm

I honestly don't have one. I'd like to see the mass claim end before coming to conclusions. I haven't played in a theme game like this before that was from a specific universe. Nor have I read many. So I really don't have any idea about what characters are fake claims or just randomly on the scum team. I mean if someone claimed Mom I'd vote the shit out of them. Thats all I got right now.

I just find your post off, but we are on pretty different wavelengths from what I know about you. I really want time to think about it in depth when Im not in the office.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #185 (isolation #27) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:21 am

Rofl is SO scummy. Weren't you supporting DGB's name claim idea on D1? Now you are saying that the mafia team is likely perfectly random?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #187 (isolation #28) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:32 am

Lol venmar. Am I wrong? Isn't there something wrong with the following:

In post 69, roflcopter wrote:yes we should name claim

In post 184, roflcopter wrote:i'd like to point out that it is perfectly plausible for alignments and roles to be completely independent. as in, the mod chose what 13 characters to include, then put their names in a hat to pick which would be mafia.

Rofl's interactions with DGB D1 suggest that he feels a mass name claim is useful for finding scum.

184 suggests that a mass name claim is useless for finding scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #190 (isolation #29) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:37 am

FTR, if Venmar flips scum then I am neither angry nor a pidgeon.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #191 (isolation #30) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:39 am

In post 189, Venmar wrote:- The first more of suggests he supports the idea of a name claim, while at the same time he didn't specify why, or if it is helpful.

In post 75, roflcopter wrote:whoever dgb exempts can skip it obvi, she knows what she's doing

He clearly thinks its helpful here.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #193 (isolation #31) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:42 am

In post 188, Venmar wrote:Right now, I am going to throw down a vote until I can figure out this mess between AB, Rofl, and Toon.

Vote: NumberQ

@Angrybird - What happened to you attacking NumberQ this day phase for hammering Acosmist? You said whatever Acosmist would flip you were going to pursue NumberQ, so what happened to that? You have seemed to forget about him, and until you explain this i'm going to assume you were just saying that last day phase to distance from him and make appearances.

Rofl/Tf obvscum team. Rofl is trying to play it off like Im bussing TF, but he set me up for it by asking my opinion of him. Its hilarious actually and not at all how town Rofl would play.

I would say #Q is the 3rd best wagon after TF and Rofl. Everything hes done is so WIFOM right now I just sigh when I think about analyzing him. But ya.

P-edit: Could you be any more useless?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #197 (isolation #32) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:47 am

That is one of the dumbest questions ever. But it does reaffirm my townread on you.

Serious response: the last thing I said about you was in 190 and 178. Pretty sure I called you town in both...

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #198 (isolation #33) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 3:52 am

Oh, CheeryDog. I need a name for you that isn't CD because I call CoolDog CD... But you're town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #201 (isolation #34) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 4:14 am

Agreed. Venmar, less voting people who aren't TF, more voting people who are TF. This goes for everyone else as well. TF, confirm you're scum and vote accordingly.

P-edit: Cherry is town because he didn't try to fake getting his emotions hurt when I called him useless. Also, I find it unlikely scum would go for Tangion at this point.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #207 (isolation #35) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 10:31 am

Rofl, Cherry's vote for Tangion IS awful. But is it scum motivated?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #211 (isolation #36) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:11 pm

I acknowledged it in 201. But I already did talk about such things earlier. you are starting to repeat yourself a lot and lets face it: that is distracting from the scum wagon that is going on right now.

Saying I ignored 199 is just untrue. I dislike scum Rofl. Hes a lot more frustrating than town Rofl.

Pedit: Re 2): What if Rofl and I are both town? What if TF flips town?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #213 (isolation #37) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:22 pm

So you are very convinced that TF is going to flip scum. There is no doubt in your mind that either Rofl or I am bussing him? And if he flips scum, you are going to vote us until one of us flips scum?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #238 (isolation #38) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:07 pm

In post 231, roflcopter wrote:holy shit rapidcanyon is rolefishing so hard

Pretty much this. I've got pretty conflicting opinions of him right now. His tunneling on Eidolon is scummy. His take on fake claims is odd. The role fishing is towny I think. I just don't know.

In post 235, Cheery Dog wrote:The currently most active players are currently reading to me as town and thus Tangion is scum via PoE.

This is horrible logic. Although I dont see scum making it.

Eidolon should name claim.

@RC re Venmar: Unfortunately not all contradictions are scum tells. I'm not seeing those as necessarily scummy. Holy shit side note: anyone have those weird experiences where things click into place as if you've been here before in a dream? Just happened to me. anyways.

Eh, I think RC is town for right now. Kinda getting a gut town read from his posts. His zeal and tunnel vision are probably not coming from scum.

Prob town:
Blastoide
Cheery Dog
Eidolon

Leaning town:
Venmar
rapidcanyon

Who knows:
vijay2vasandani
Tangion

leaning scum:
numberQ
roflcopter

Self claimed scum:
Toon Fighter

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #239 (isolation #39) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 9:10 pm

Also I'm pretty sure #Q's hammer was on purpose.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #241 (isolation #40) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:00 pm

Thats it? No response to the fact that Rofl and I are

bussing

voting you?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #242 (isolation #41) » Thu Sep 13, 2012 11:01 pm

RC, could you paraphrase the flavor in ur PM for me?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #253 (isolation #42) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:23 pm

Well this sure is hilarious. I really am having trouble making heads or tails of this. Except TF is still scum.

Im starting to think rofl is town? Eidolon, opinion of recent RC posts?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #256 (isolation #43) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:03 pm

VOTE: RC

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #272 (isolation #44) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:39 pm

In post 258, rapidcanyon wrote:when it seems like Rofl is actually a viable lynch candidate,

You voting Rofl does not suddenly make him a viable lynch candidate. And I've been waayyyy more certain of my TF scum read than rofl one.

Here is what really happened. Rofl changed his vote to you. I kinda don't see scum rofl doing much other than continuing to tunnel Tf/me at this point since it would look weird of him to abandon a read. Also your entire recent take on the Me/Rofl/TF situation is shady as hell.

You keep basing 100% of your assumptions on the fact that TF is being bussed

, yet you haven't contributed to voting him? Instead you stir up noise about Venmar while kind of acknowledging the situation??

Also I know at least some of my pew-pew war with rofl was just reaction probing. Its probably equally true from his end if hes town.

Once again in 262 you say your vote makes a rofl lynch suddenly very realistic despite not much other support.

Also agree with eidolon's point #3. Your fake claim analysis was...odd. I don't see the motivation to look into it right now. Really. I'd rather be analyzing posts.

And to conclude, literally this:

In post 249, roflcopter wrote:but rapidcanyon is chainsaw defending him like nobody's business here so i am fully comfortable with killing rc first.

P-edit: Lol are you saying Eid is being stupid? What about her play has been stupid?

P-pedit: "there is absolutely no reason to lynch TF". Ok.........

RC is probably scum. Definitely not with Venmar and Rofl.

PPPedit: WHAT??? Why does scum-rofl want to do that? Is there not also town motivation for it in some cases??? Lol Rofl are you implying mini 1337 is about to get all up in here.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #275 (isolation #45) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 2:45 pm

There is a 'normal' role that can do that.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #311 (isolation #46) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:21 pm

UNVOTE: RC

VOTE: Toon Fighter

TF has so many scum buddies. Lets do this today.

I relly dislike Cherry after his back and forth with RC; it reads really fake. Might need to try and read other games of his.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #312 (isolation #47) » Fri Sep 14, 2012 10:29 pm

I could do Cherry right now while m still feeling good about it. Rofl, Eid, thoughts? I hate playing this game from a different time zone. Seriously though, I don't see how TF will flip town after so many people interacting with him this way.

Bender as a watcher kind of makes sense...and I don't think Bender would be a scum role unless its a fake claim. Which would mean the watcher part is dubious.

Eidolon, thoughts on the townieness of the watcher claim? RC, I think you are saying you hit Eidolon with a watch last night. Confirm/Deny?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #314 (isolation #48) » Sat Sep 15, 2012 3:15 am

Paranormal activities are lame; you are scum for thinking they aren't. Even if I did get some awesome cuddling out of #2

I'll fish up a video clip to show why bender may be a watcher later on, but I could see it off the top of my head.

Eidolon, have you ever seen a scum watcher?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #339 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 12:23 am

Cant post now sorry, I know I posted in my other games. Shoot me.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #343 (isolation #50) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:12 am

In post 315, Eidolon wrote:
I've seen it at my old site though i realize that it's not something common. i'd assume less common here than at my old site because that was more of a role madness type of place.

Rapid must also know that being a watcher doesn't make him conf-town. Why did he say his watcher claim makes him conf-town. If you 2 hadn't seen a scum watcher role then I would understand.

In post 321, Cheery Dog wrote:How does what movies someone has enjoyed in the past relate to someone's alignment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vXOm4eFGe0#t=00m19s

In post 331, rapidcanyon wrote:I haven't given up for "no reason." I gave up because everybody and their dog is so sure that it is either me or TF that has to be lynched today

Ok....Have you seen how fast suspicions have been built up and torn down today? I think I opened by voting venmar, then TF, then FoSing rofl, then you then Cherry. This dichotomy is wrong. But I don't necessarily think its scummy coming from you.

I could do a Cherry wagon right now. I don't have a super strong case to make for him but my gut tells me hes scum. If I had to try and qualify it:

God that RC post. Is probably coming from town. Im SLIGHTLY suspicious of Eidolon because apparently the two of them have seen scum watchers but she didn't call Rapid out when he said that his claim makes him conftown. Confused when you quoted post 236. That was made by you.

Mirror, mirror on the wall; who is the scummiest of them all?

Bachelor #1

Cheery, if Rapid flips town, how would that change your reads one me, Eidolon, rofl, and TF?

Ok, well the point I was going to make about bender = watcher is that he has been able to extend his eyes out in the show and use them as binoculars kinda. I cant find a relevant youtube clip.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #344 (isolation #51) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 6:20 am

Forgot to explain my CD gut read: His opinions sound slightly forced. Like his reasoning makes sense but hes too confident in it. His case on Rapid is pretty ez. He brings up a lot of things people commonly consider scum tells, and tunnels RC into the ground with them. Doesn't seem to be much hard thought going into his RC case; its all puzzle pieces fitting together too well. Dunno if that makes much sense to anyone, but there it is.

Ya...I think hes scum. I'd be a little surprised if he isnt.

VOTE: CheeryDog

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #348 (isolation #52) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:31 am

In post 346, numberQ wrote:Cheery vs rapid looks like town vs town to me.

Cool you can be the scum buddy of

whichever one of them flips scum.

cheery.

Rapid's case on you is a lot more disjoint. I have a hard time reading him I guess..

Ugh, I looked back at #173. Stop it! Its messing with my Rc town read. I dislike the major character analysis and thought that Venmar being one means hes likely scum by PoE. Do I think this analysis is coming from scum rapid? Mehhhh. If it were and then Venmar would presumably flip town (he was even a possible wagon at the time) then Rapid would have to start pushing someone down that short list the next Day or backpedal hard. I think this is more likely coming from town Rapid. PoE would be a pretty big drug to be on at this point as scum.

He does acknowledge TF cases and say they are decent just to be upset about people voting him for no reason later. Once again, kind of doubt that is coming from scum though.

The main things I wanted to revisit was the fact that Rapid has never seen the show (he admitted to that in that post). I figured it might be possible to use that to my advantage when questioning him down the line. Its part of the reason I asked him to paraphrase his role PM: since he hasn't seen the show, a fake paraphrase would sound clunky. Unless Robo provided full-on fake claims in the scum-pms, but I kinda doubt he did. Its possible.

Annyyyyways, ya I dislike a lot of the logic that came from that post, but it really doesn't sound scummy. The PoE part from a pool of 3 does not sound like a trap that scum would willingly set for themselves. And if he is bussing Venmar, then GfG.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #349 (isolation #53) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 8:32 am

In post 348, AngryPidgeon wrote:I dislike the major character analysis and
[RC's]
thought that Venmar being one means hes likely scum by PoE.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #360 (isolation #54) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:42 am

On this page: Probably only townies have posted on it. VOTE: Toon Fighter

Pretty much this or Cheery right now. Im actually fairly comfortable with Rofl town after that triple post. Id say TF/#Q/Cheery is the team.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #367 (isolation #55) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:57 am

I can't wait for them to both be scum. The only thing bothering me right now is TF's inactivity. Its impossible to get more information from him...Also the Calculon claim seems "so minor character it has to be a scum fake claim so it actually isn't!". But Im not about to outguess the mod on setup spec in my first game like this.

P-edit: I remember thinking Venmar/Cheery was unlikely. I forget why though.. I'll have to reread them.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #372 (isolation #56) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:04 am

Lol. You are right. tPost 149 makes the RC/TF team look probable. Either way the entire case on TF starts and ends right here:

In post 149, Toon Fighter wrote:one person who is emitting scum vibes for me today is rofl. He immediately starts attacking rc for his nightkill speculation (which is not bad on itself, and could be useful), and spends the next few posts just defending Venmar, with no evidence whatsoever. scumbuddy much? vote: roflcopter

If RC/TF are scum then TF is bussing him and counterwagoning rofl.

RC doesn't necessarily have to be scum, but the above quote is pretty much a scum claim from TF.

P-edit: Ok if TF flips scum then RC goes IMMEDIATELY.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #377 (isolation #57) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:09 am

Oh actualy I misread the quote. He was talking about a Venmar/Rofl team holy f*** Ill get to the pedits in a sec.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #386 (isolation #58) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:21 am

In post 369, rapidcanyon wrote:If Eidolon is town, she most certainly isn't going to vote based on such poor reasoning.

This is scummy. Stop strong-arming her vote.

RC, who are you most confident is town right now? You seem to have plenty of scum reads is why I ask. Not sure where you stand on town reads.

I see rofl also found the above RC quote off.

In post 374, rapidcanyon wrote:If TF flips scum, I am still going for Cheery.

Cheery/TF team actually makes sense.

In post 376, rapidcanyon wrote:Angry, WHY are you unvoting on a perfectly good wagon on Cheery? After rofl posted a couple of lines of BS? Are you really that gullible? I made about 1000 word long detailed case on why Cheery is scum. Let's lynch Cheery today. We'll see if Rofl can confirm himself tomorrow.

They are both good wagons. They both have said things I consider almost irrevocably scummy. I realize you put a lot of effort into the case, and you are all the more town for that.

Want to reiterate: I thought TF was calling out a Rofl/RC team when he said scumbuddies much. Now that I see he meant Venmar/Rofl, I'm back to mostly town on RC. I think.

In post 378, roflcopter wrote:look, rapid, i was going back over your iso and i even found your little watcher breadcrumb you dropped (why didn't you point back to it when you claimed??). you should be watching me tonight because i am by far the most likely nightkill. if you do not you should be lynched tomorrow with extreme prejudice and i will be very disappointed in this town if they don't do just that.

Emmmm, how about RC chooses his own target. Having him publicly declare one is dumb.

P-edit: Ok... This whole prove you are town business needs to stop. Asserting that you won't watch rofl because he is scummy is silly. Pick a (semi) random target.

P-Pedit: Ya this does remind me of Shos from space mafia to a degree.

P-P-PEdit: Excuse me? Why would scum rofl bus scum TF so absurdly hard? I mean ya its possible, but really?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #389 (isolation #59) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 11:37 am

In post 388, rapidcanyon wrote:Other possibility, TF is town, Rofl is scum or town and wrong.

I'm way more concerned about this than a scum-team. Yes I know the entire point of bussing is town cred. Im just saying bussing is USUALLY not that great of a strategy. It is POSSIBLE, but more likely than not that is not what happened given a TF scum flip.

FWIW, Im pretty confident in Blastoide town. Im lightly suspicious of Eidolon but not enough to vote her today. Her opening post seemed pretty town inspired.

Eidolon, where do you stand on the Cheery/TF reads?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #438 (isolation #60) » Sun Sep 16, 2012 9:44 pm

In post 406, rapidcanyon wrote:How is TF even a lead. Okay, he was lurking. That is pretty much the entire case on him.

Look, Im actually less comfortable lynching him because he's lurking. I find that one quote (and pretty much every post hes made, but that one quote in particular) to be incredibly scummy. I can try and make a well formed argument about it if itll make you feel better. In office today, can't do it just right now.

In post 406, rapidcanyon wrote:Where has he given up? He barely posted anything. He is flaking out of this game, basically.

Agree with this, I dislike Eidolon's interpreting his inactivity as a scumtell.

In post 407, rapidcanyon wrote:The intensity of her going after me

Eidolon is going after you? This is news to me.

Rc, could you give me a few bullet points about why Rofl is scum? Entire case not necessary.

Post 409............................Rofl, I know you want to wagon this scumbag with me.

In post 416, Cheery Dog wrote:Your reasons in much shorter words as follow.
"You attacked me and didn't follow my obvtown lead, you must be scum!"

Does that come from scum though?

In post 422, roflcopter wrote:piggy if i promise to only refer to scruffy the janitor as scruffy the janitor from now on will you take a leap of faith and join me on the toon fighter wagon? rapidcanyon can be dealt with tomorrow, tf's scum flip will leave him hanging out to dry

Piggy is scum....But Im ok with her bussing TF.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #442 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 4:22 am

RC, are you trying to blow my mind?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #444 (isolation #62) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:12 am

I dunno. I just don't get you at all. I feel like Im talking to a magic 8 ball. Don't take that the wrong way.

Im shocked that you wouldn't give me a general idea of why you thought Rofl was scum. I legitimately want to know even though I see he isn't getting lynched today. I don't get your response to TF. I don't get your sudden acceptance of a Piggy wagon.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #447 (isolation #63) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 5:25 am

I suppose I see it. You just seemed so focused on Cheery all day. I guess you did make a wall about Piggy.

I thought you were null on TF?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #452 (isolation #64) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:17 am

Cool, so HF is town. Even if hes voting in the wrong place right now.

At this point TF needs votes. Cheery would be acceptable too I suppose. Just pick one so we can actually wagon someone today.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #469 (isolation #65) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 11:02 am

In post 459, roflcopter wrote:add havingfitz to the list of people to lynch after i'm dead

Not a big fan of PLs, sorry.

If rofl is scum then Cheery definitely is and TF is town.

If TF is scum then rofl is town and Cheery is still prob scum.

I think RC is town either way, but hes definitely not scum with Cheery. Could be scum with TF.

If Eid is scum then the team is Eid/#q + {Tf/Cheery}

If Cherry is scum, then the likely buddies are almost anybody except RC...But thats pretty much because Cheery is scum regardless of any flips. He just is.

In post 468, rapidcanyon wrote:Anyways, HavingFitz, I think is town. I also don't agree with his vote on TF though.

Fitz never voted for TF.

ITT: The team is probably Rofl, Eid, and RC and Im getting the eternal hell trolled out of me.

HF, you are town because your vote and case are too bad to come from scum.

VOTE: Cheery

Hes scum. We can do TF Tomorrow.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #511 (isolation #66) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 7:52 pm

In post 472, roflcopter wrote:fine. its probably sub optimal to claim here but i don't care any more, enough people are being too hard headed to read between the lines here.

i am a
gunsmith
and
toon fighter has a gun
.

now everyone can lynch toon fighter please and thank you

VOTE: Toon fighter

Skimming, saw this.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #512 (isolation #67) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:02 pm

Oh, that was the hammer. Cool. Cheery is scum for tomorrow. Notice how he danced around the Tf wagon.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #513 (isolation #68) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:03 pm

I will not be surprised when TF flips RB/RC. There wa so much reluctance to bus him.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #514 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:07 pm

RC probably watch Rofl, but if RC is town hes probably dying tonight.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #516 (isolation #70) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 8:26 pm

No, I mean the fact you are obvscum. Your omgus was predictable .

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #518 (isolation #71) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:14 pm

In post 202, Cheery Dog wrote:
roflcopter wrote:
In post 185, AngryPidgeon wrote:
in conclusion, vote toon now. we'll deal with the rest of his scumteam after he hangs.
Sorry but why are we voting Toon Fighter because you think you've found his buddies? What makes it more likely that it's bussing and not buddying?

In post 216, Cheery Dog wrote:The accusations that have been flying around look to me more that you've found someone else scummy and because you're voting TF, you've found that they must be buddies.

In post 235, Cheery Dog wrote:The currently most active players are currently reading to me as town and thus Tangion is scum via PoE.

Guess Cheery's alignment!
Answer:

Spoiler:

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #519 (isolation #72) » Mon Sep 17, 2012 9:18 pm

For those of you watching at home here's why:

The active players all seem town to CD. Therefore Tangion is probably scum. Therefore

Toon Fighter

Tangion is probably scum. probably scum.
Scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #522 (isolation #73) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:09 am

Piggy, are you willing to bus Cheery tomorrow?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #525 (isolation #74) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:34 am

lol. If Calculon is a Vig, then Cheery is town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #527 (isolation #75) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:38 am

there is literally a 0% chance of calculon being a vig.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #532 (isolation #76) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:50 am

RC, Im being sarcastic. calculon cannot be and is not a Vig. If he is then the game is just WTF.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #533 (isolation #77) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:50 am

Also, Tf claimed scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #536 (isolation #78) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:53 am

Eh, reasonable point. But Scruffy being a GS is still less of a stretch.

Ok...Tf claimed scum holy fuck. RC is making me 2nd guess him with every post.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #538 (isolation #79) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:56 am

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #547 (isolation #80) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:01 am

Whatever. If there is a vig, kill Cheery. If there is a doc protect RC. RC watch rofl. Rofl investigate whoever you want.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #551 (isolation #81) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:44 am

I'm not. Consider this.

Cheery claims TF is a null read.
Cheery has a nul read on Tangion for lurking.

Cheery votes Tangion and says he is scum for PoE.
Why not vote TF? Because TF is scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #552 (isolation #82) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:45 am

Rofl, how are you possibly dead tonight? If RC is town then there is no way scum don't kill him over someone he is watching.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #555 (isolation #83) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:50 am

Why should you vote Tangion for having a null read on him?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #557 (isolation #84) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:26 am

You said inactives were SCUM by poe. TF was inactive. Rofl just wait until we know cheerys alignment before pushing me. Ill be conf town

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #560 (isolation #85) » Tue Sep 18, 2012 6:52 am

^, ^^

Literally the scum team with tf.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #569 (isolation #86) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:34 am

That NK? Ummmmmmmmm

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #570 (isolation #87) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:35 am

So basically before anything else the following needs to happen: RC who did you watch. Rofl, who did you target, were they guilty?

FTR, Im inclined to believe RC is town as of right now based on the NK. Scum is playing a ballsy game though by leaving RC/Rofl alone...

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #572 (isolation #88) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:43 am

RC, when you targeted Eidolon, you noticed someone target her, confirm/deny?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #577 (isolation #89) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:31 am

Basically here is how I see this:

Rofl is town. He hard claimed a cop and bussed a buddy into the ground. He now has to fake investigations for the rest of the game and ultimately lose to PoE if scum. So hes not.

If RC is town then scum can't NK rofl. They could potentially NK RC. Its a little weird that they didn't.

If RC is scum then they know who targeted Eidolon and that person is a town PR. They kill that person. We enter D3 not knowing uncertain of RC's alignment, but down a PR. It is possible that RC is scum and thought about this, but I tend to doubt it. I think we're looking at town RC / town Rofl. Now the goon flip from TF is interesting. If RC/Rofl are town, then the town has significant PRs. Whoever targeted Eidolon could easily be a RC or RB.

RC, did anyone target rofl last night?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #578 (isolation #90) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:35 am

@Ven: He targeted Eid night 1.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #580 (isolation #91) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:41 am

Rofl has to be alive. If RC is town, then scum can't kill Rofl without RC getting a guilty on one of them.

If RC is scum, then they can't kill Rofl because I would immediately have asked RC who killed Rofl. If he targeted someone else Id park my vote on him like no one's business.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #589 (isolation #92) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:03 pm

You targeted me didn't you. I hate you.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #592 (isolation #93) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:06 pm

Whats the point of that? Just say it then.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #595 (isolation #94) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:10 pm

nope.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #598 (isolation #95) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:13 pm

Tangion wagon, anyone?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #600 (isolation #96) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:16 pm

Lewlz. I was worried it would be whoeve claimed Zoidberg making them an obvious Doc. But piggy is scum.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #607 (isolation #97) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:30 pm

I think I know who is bussing on this one.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #609 (isolation #98) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:35 pm

Well, are you?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #612 (isolation #99) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:54 pm

Updated list of claims

Dead Players

1) Acosmist ~ Zapp Brannigan (Vanilla Townie) - Lynched Day One - TOWN
2) DrippingGoofball ~ Turanga Leela (Vanilla Townie), Shot Night One - TOWN
3) Toon Fighter ~

Calculon, the acting robot

Nixon - SCUM
4) Blastoide ~ Philip J. Fry (Vanilla town) - TOWN

Role Claims

1) roflcopter ~ scruffy - Gunsmith (Targeted TF night 1 - guilty, targeted AP night 2 - innocent)
2) rapidcanyon ~ Bender Bending Rodriguez - Watcher

Character Claims

4) AngryPidgeon ~ Hermes Conrad
5) Venmar ~ Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth
6) Cheery Dog ~ John Zoidberg
7) Eidolon ~ Kif kroker
10) PiggyGal15 ~ Nibbler (Targeted Eid night 1)

No Claims

9) numberQ ~
11) havingfitz ~

I just copied this from RC's last update. I find slightly weird that 2 main character claims were killed off. HF, could you claim your character?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #615 (isolation #100) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:43 pm

PiggyGal15 wrote:
I'm not going to claim yet, not until I'm at L-1.

VOTE: Piggy

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #617 (isolation #101) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 1:46 pm

Piggy, why do you think you were role blocked?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #622 (isolation #102) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:07 pm

I think I see where this is going actually.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #623 (isolation #103) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:12 pm

But it begs the question: Piggy who did you target? last night

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #627 (isolation #104) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:19 pm

Piggy you need to full claim now.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #628 (isolation #105) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:23 pm

Nm, I missed a page.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #630 (isolation #106) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:30 pm

It really could be RC.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #631 (isolation #107) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:31 pm

Piggy, are you a full Vig or X-shot?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #634 (isolation #108) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:35 pm

UNVOTE:
I will say that the Blastoide kill makes a lot more sense now. I really don't see scum killing him..

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #637 (isolation #109) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:44 pm

I think we should all full claim.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #639 (isolation #110) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:47 pm

The one piece of the puzzle Im not getting right now is who the scum tried to kill last night. The simplest answer would be RC (assuming hes town) but heres my issue right now:

We have a claimed Gunsmith, Watcher, 2xVig and a flipped Goon.

If all of these people are telling the truth then there must be at least 1 of {Eid is BP, scum RB} and 1 of {Dr, JK} that blocked the scum kill last night (unless Eid is town BP and satisfies both explanations.

No, I'll not start seeing as how Im conftown thanks.

Popcorn Eidolon.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #640 (isolation #111) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:48 pm

But I really dont see why scum would kill Eidolon last night. So her being a town BP seems improbable.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #644 (isolation #112) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:58 pm

If there is a JK, you need to claim right now and tell us who you targeted N1.

Still though. Like I said if the Watcher/GS/2Vig claims are all true then there has to be at least one more town PR (Eid is Town BP, or there is a JK/Doc)

And lets face it, BP/2Vig/Watcher/GS VS goon/???/??? is pretty town sided.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #645 (isolation #113) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 2:59 pm

Im inclined to believe Dr / Watcher would not be on the same team because they could target each other and be relatively invulnerable.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #646 (isolation #114) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:00 pm

Honestly right now someone is lying. And that person is RC.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #648 (isolation #115) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:12 pm

Ok, just because you are saying that I'll type up the ridiculous essay that is formulating in my head.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #649 (isolation #116) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:30 pm

Ok, I actually typed a lot out but then deleted it. I don't want to reveal too much of what I think until at least Eidolon claims. I think I just determined something important.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #650 (isolation #117) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 3:32 pm

@Mod: If someone is roleblocked, would they be told that? Like if Roflcopter were roleblocked, would he be told that his night role failed essentially?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #652 (isolation #118) » Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:21 pm

Oh Damn, sorry. That was not intended to be a loaded question. I just now realized that was bad >.>

The first answer was what I needed though, thanks.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #665 (isolation #119) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 4:29 am

What if RC was roleblocked? This iswhy I needed to know that answer. If rc was blocked last night, he got no results, but dpes he know that?

Pedit: my head literally just exploded. Plz don't lynch anyone before I get off work

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #676 (isolation #120) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:10 am

Ya the simplest answer here is that RC is scum. I'll mull it over today, I'll vote when I get home. I don't think Cheery can be. My thoughts yesterday meant that we had to have either jk/doc around or Eid was town BP. Which apparently isn't the case.

I wish Piggy would get mod confirmation about what Tangion did N1 and how many shots she has left.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #682 (isolation #121) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:48 am

Soft claiming for Venmar detected.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #684 (isolation #122) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 5:56 am

I actually wouldn't be horribly shocked if RC/Eid were the last 2.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #693 (isolation #123) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:42 am

Lol that softclaiming.

Ya plz don't lynch anyone yet, but RC/Eidolon team too strong.

rapidcanyon wrote:Not being mislynched is the most important thing in a mafia game as town isn't it?

What.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #696 (isolation #124) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:47 am

Ya the only possible confounding factor is an RB still. I have been thinking that given last night the best mafia strat would be to RB RC and kill you if they have one.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #701 (isolation #125) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:59 am

What really disturbs me is you responded to Cheery's claim to say he is lying (implying that he must not have visited Rofl because you got neg results), but then quickly threw the watcher claim away shortly after and started calling him town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #706 (isolation #126) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:25 am

Why did you claim to target Rofl, knowing that a doctor must have also targeted him?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #708 (isolation #127) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:31 am

But you knew that someone was going to speak up and claim to have targeted Rofl then, so why claim null results?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #713 (isolation #128) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:25 am

My other issue here is that with Doc/GS/2xVig we kind of have follow the cop. Which means an RB is likely.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #715 (isolation #129) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:38 am

If RC flips scum you must vig Eidolon.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #717 (isolation #130) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:55 am

HF is getting replaced it would seem. Who knows where #Q is.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #718 (isolation #131) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:07 am

Eidolon, how certain are you of Venmar's _alignment_.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #720 (isolation #132) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:21 am

I dunno, I feel like he may be inventing reads. If RC flips goon, Venmar is suspect IMO.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #723 (isolation #133) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:42 am

Ok, I need to think about that. No I said HE Eidolon. As in Venmar is inventing reads. Are his reads town motivated or not though?

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:12 am

Hrrrrnnnng. Well Im not sure what to think of this except Im a bit more confident in Eidolon town.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:38 am

Eidlon are your reasons for thinking Venmar is town flavor / PoE related?

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:39 am

But ya RC is scum. I'll hammer when I get bored of waiting for claims.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:25 am

I think a claim is a good idea.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:59 am

Its a good idea because Eidolon is softclaiming that you are an inventor. I see no reason why not claim now. Scum have a queue of conftowns and prs to nk through as it is.

Also, any additional info will help right now.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:15 pm

I did notice the Smelloscope crumb. You'll notice I said you were "inventing" reads. I was trying to get Eidolon to get on my wavelength, but when she didn't pick up on my obvious crumb, I felt maybe I was wrong about her and you.

Anyways, So we now have a claimed Inventor/GS/Doc/2Vig. This is the game I like to call find the liar!

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:19 pm

Ugh, HF being AFK is going to make this tricky.

ya Eid, lets hear it.

AngryPidgeon · Tue Sep 25, 2012 12:27 pm

RC, do you really think that Vig/Inventor/Cop/Doc Vs Goon/???/??? is balanced?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #759 (isolation #142) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:00 pm

So pretty much one of the claims is scum and one of the unclaimed/vanillas is scum. {Piggy/Cherry/Venmar} + {Eid/Fitz/#Q/RC}

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #763 (isolation #143) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 1:07 pm

I just don't think we have 4 town PRs given a goon flip. The last two would have to be like RB / maf Doc for that to make sense.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #768 (isolation #144) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:40 pm

Roflcopter, thoughts on Cheery being a mafia doctor?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #780 (isolation #145) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:13 am

Am I the only one that thinks Venmar has the worlds best fake claim?

Seriously, Im not joking. One of them {Roflcoper, Venmar, Piggy, Cheery} has to be lying. There is no way they are all town. Although not knowing what Venmar's inventions do does make them inherently less powerful. We have time; no need to quick lynch. Please let me sit down and try an power through all the claims and figure out what I think is possible. I realize I'm having a slight soft spot for the RC lynch right now and I should know better because of Mini 1365, but there is so much information out there to parse. Also, I want to go back and ISO some people. FTR, I'm 100% opposed to a lynch today until we hear from HF's slot about what the Fray did.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #782 (isolation #146) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:15 am

In post 781, Eidolon wrote:We have it narrowed down to four people. Rapid, Me, #Q, and Havingfitz

What? Why? How are all the PR claims conf-town. Rofl is because his claim is pretty much suicide otherwise, but having 4 fairly powerful town PRs seems absurd. Unless Robocopter has a history of PR heavy games and the last 2 mafia roles are PRs. IDK

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #786 (isolation #147) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:21 am

Eidolon, could you paraphrase your rolecards flavor for me?

Im also thinking Cheery can't be scum for similar reasons that Rofl isn't: claim is pretty much suicide. I also think Piggy's claim stacks up for the most part. You know what could make sense? A mafia inventor. But like I said please let me think about all this before a hammer. There is far too much info being thrown around.

Rc, the fact of the matter is that HF is probably town. #Q is mehhh. You lied. And people like to vote for liars. Im meh on it. Ive considered claiming cop as a VT in the past. But there is also the fact you were chainsaw defending Toon Fighter like mad.

P-edit: Hence BEST fake claim ever. Please let me parse some of the claims. I just don't see how they can all be true. And they all have good reasons to be pro-town on the surface

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #792 (isolation #148) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:43 am

I dislike the direction to Eidolon. Not to draw a parallel between Mafia and Poker, but misdirecting bets is a tell that someone is bluffing in poker. Also, stop with the self-meta >.>

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #798 (isolation #149) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:12 am

Because you're fake claim is sexy?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #799 (isolation #150) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 8:12 am

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:13 am

We aren't killing HF or ending the day until I at least get to know what the Fray did and hear his character name.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:08 am

You guys do realize that the 4 claimed PRs are unlikely right? Am I talking to myself?

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:08 am

But yes, #Q is a great vig shot and all.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:19 am

Im actually somewhat certain RC will flip town and that scares me. But I think hes going down today and I dont care enough to argue it. If he flips scum, Venmar deserves to be investigated though.

P-edit: Read through your list and tell me which one of those is scum. Weeeee. hints:

Spoiler:

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:28 am

Im enjoying my conf-town status over here Rofl, don't mind me. Seriously. Don't waste that shit on me, I 'll consider it a scum claim from you Eid.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:36 am

I keep typing out responses and deleting them. Lol. But no. I don't care. How about this: there is no way the last 2 are in the claimed 4 prs. So lets PoE it down and then get back to setup spec after we see the scum flip from the non-pr pool? cool? cool.

P-edit: LOL I take it all back. Hes scum.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:37 am

I don want to hear from the Hf slot about the Fray before a hammer though.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:50 am

RC, not only are you scum, you are the scum RB.

AngryPidgeon · Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:55 am

I think they didn't RB you because they figured you would die.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #837 (isolation #160) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 6:25 pm

If Rc flips scum then le buddy is either Venmar or Eidolon.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #839 (isolation #161) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:26 pm

I legitimately don't know. Venmar is my best bet right now.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #841 (isolation #162) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:33 pm

By PoE they are the most likely. Because Cheery, Rofl, and Piggy all seem too legit right now. That leaves the 4 unclaimed/vanillas and Venmar as most likely. Of the 4, I'd say HF is the best shot at flipping town.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #852 (isolation #163) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:17 am

I think one of the claimed PRs has to be lying and I don't see it being Rofl because why bus a buddy and fake claim D2. I don't see it being Cheery because his claim would kind of be suicide.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #854 (isolation #164) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:23 am

Fair enough. That is why I want to lynch from the unclaimed/VTs first. {RC/Fitz/#Q/Eid}. A goon flip there means we have a liar IMO.

FWIW, Venmar is a decent GS investigation because he is certainly not a Mafia Doctor. But you are probably getting RB'd or killed tonight. Which sucks. Whatever, lynch RC full steam ahead. Im still hoping he'll flip RB. I honestly don't think he could be a goon, rolecop, or probably even maf doc. He will flip RB or VT.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #855 (isolation #165) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 7:02 am

@ MOD: We need that HF replacement please

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #857 (isolation #166) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:54 am

Eidolon, has RC posted so many walls as scum in the past?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #866 (isolation #167) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 5:02 pm

^ This. Also I keep telling myself I'll reread shit and analyze the claims but the shit that got vomited into this thread is so powerful.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #870 (isolation #168) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:35 pm

Or you are scum. Hurray for WIFOM

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #875 (isolation #169) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:37 am

Im leaning scum about 60 / 40. I haven't reread this like I keep promising (its a horrifying thread of walls and WIFOM) but I think hes the RB. The "Im willing to be Vig'd line" kind of sold me on my leaning scum on him.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #877 (isolation #170) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:39 am

It just seemed to me like town RC would be putting more effort into garnering reads and saying "Lynch player X and when they flip scum, you won't have to vig me. If I'm wrong then w/e". Instead he is going on like "Well I just want to make it to night time".

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #880 (isolation #171) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:56 am

Your bullet points for #q=Scum do have my favorite scumtell in them. I dont recall Q saying it, but he probably did. Anyways, Im seriously going to read some ISO this weekend and wait for Robo to replace peeps. Set up spec ain't my thing; gut reads are. And right now Ive been so bogged down in spec and WIFOM, Im just bleh about this thread - lol.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #881 (isolation #172) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:12 am

Well le Q iso didn't take much time. And a Q/Venmar scumteam could make sense. Q RC/team also could.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #882 (isolation #173) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 8:14 am

Herr derr confirmation bias. Ya betting isn't allowed, but I'd be willing to throw down on the last scums being inside {Q, Venmar, RC}, pick any 2.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #885 (isolation #174) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:32 am

Intent to hammer before I go to sleep tonight. FWIW, Eidolon is conf-town based on her ISO.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #887 (isolation #175) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:35 am

RC, are you town?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:06 am

@Evil: If Robo didn't already tell you then please ask. Your slot got an item on night 1 (F-ray). Did it get used / what did it do?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:47 am

Derpie doooooo, who was it used on?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:51 am

It was used on the Mutt. Cool. Well thats just dandelion. Ethan Tate? What character is that?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:03 am

Congratulations evil, you are setting off my double-gut radar that I legitimately can't explain.

RC, I think that is obvious.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:06 am

So riddle me this, why would HF hit me with the Fray of all peeps?

Bonus hint:

rofl implied that he was goingto target me, why risk a double investigation?

VOTE: Evil

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:09 am

This isn't rocket science guys, Evil is conf-scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:20 am

Eidolon, why would you investigate someone who is probably getting investigated by rofl?
Eidolon, why would you vig shot on someone who is probably getting investigated by rofl?

Hes scum.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:12 pm

Basically, Rofl is conf-town after the ToonFighter flip.

Rofl's last post of consequence was something like "AP is scum...."

Why would town HF use a Vig/Cop item on someone that Rofl is going to target over night? It wastes a PR. The only possible explanation was HF thought Rofl would die. Which is plausible maybe. I want to hear from Rofl, I'd still be willing to lynch RC and vig Evil.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:15 pm

Anywho, the "Rofl could be a rolecop if Tf flips 1xVig" comment was scummy as hell anyways.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:20 pm

You never said that. HF did.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:21 pm

If you are town then holy cow. Could radiate anymore scummy WIFOM then you do?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:35 pm

Cool, you are supporting my case on you. I literally love this thread.

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:36 pm

Oh and did you just call out you and RC as the scum team?

AngryPidgeon · Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:56 pm

Not sure if bussing...or bussing.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #935 (isolation #190) » Sat Sep 29, 2012 5:49 am

Ya true, Q is scummy. Im somewhat conflicted. Was hoping to have rofl check in too and see what he thinks.

The fact the HF slot is wasting a PR on me despite roflcopter being watched by RC and likely targeting me means the slot either derped very hard or is scum though. And I think its the latter. But whatever

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #947 (isolation #191) » Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:11 pm

Ok, rofl and ven checked in. Vig Evil por favor
VOTE: RapidCanyon

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #963 (isolation #192) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:39 am

Hi qwints, full claim or die please. Also, FoS Piggy, FoS Evil.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #966 (isolation #193) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:41 am

She probably ended up targeting Rofl

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #968 (isolation #194) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:43 am

I dont have any PMs about it.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #969 (isolation #195) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:48 am

Oh and now I do.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #970 (isolation #196) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:09 am

Im going to go ahead and assume that Piggy lurking right now means that she/evil are the team.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #972 (isolation #197) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:13 am

No special abilities I take it?

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #978 (isolation #198) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:38 am

Ok, I really need some time to think about this. The setup spec is going to kill me. I would like to hear from Eidolon. If I had to guess, the smelloscope is a 1x Tracker which would be very helpful about now.

I told myself I wasn't going to overthink this and I've been overthinking this for a solid 20 minutes now. I need breakfast and coffee. If my friend doesn't drive me to ihop, Im going to murder someone.

I'm loosely inclined to believe that qwintz is town right now. I still cannot believe that Evil is town given that he targeted me with an Fray knowing full well that rofl would potentally live through the night due to RC's claim.

P-edit: I kind of think you are town. kind of. I still think it has to be one of the PR claims and one of the VT claims.

AngryPidgeon · Post Post #987 (isolation #199) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:26 am

I like you.