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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:52 am

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So some general question / requests ...

1. Why No Lynch Sala?
2. Rubick why are you playing as an Alt?
3. Klick - please confirm you are the reincarnation of Kondi.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:54 am

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No-one at this stage. This is a Micro game. I don't see the need for Lulz, RVS.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:57 am

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So again Sala ... why did you vote No Lynch? If you are voting me for not RVSing isn't that the exact equivalent?
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Post Post #17 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:15 am

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So Kondi ... despite you recent being burned by just voting like a moron recently (Grey's Think Twice) you persist in casting a L-2 vote before everyone has checked in?
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:16 am

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So Shotgun / Saulres / Iceguy to post still ...
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Post Post #23 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:27 am

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@Saul
- before you go explain your thought process in choosing Salamance please!
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Post Post #26 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:44 am

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In post 25, Klick wrote:@MoI: L-2 really isn't a big deal IMO, in fact the opposite when the purpose of the vote is to pressure. As for Think Twice, that was a complete gamble.


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Post Post #34 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:00 am

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The Hated modified should just claim ASAP. It is not alignment relevant and will prevent 'Ooops' shenanigans if they are Town.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:03 am

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In post 31, Klick wrote:Also, what's people's opinion on revealing which column we were allowed to pick from?


Not Pro-Town as it helps narrow down who is likely to have the most popular from the actual Roles column.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #9) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:33 am

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Klick wrote: Ah.

I only want to know a specific one, and it isn't Positive. Not going to say which right now.


Why do I have serious doubts that revealing the two players who picked from a column that is not Positive will help you find scum since picks were made BEFORE alignment was determined so there is no way that you could have information that is alignment relevant from the picking process?

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Iceguy wrote: L-2 actually isn't a big deal.


Well actually it is given the potential combination of Hated with possible Vote Stealing powers. I see you are happy to not engage higher reasoning as usual but know that isn’t an alignment tell.

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Rubick wrote: Hm.

VOTE: drmyshotgun

I feel like he wouldn't lie, but might as well.


Look … pointless movement of votes is pointless. Reads as Faux-Town busywork posting to me.

Rubick wrote: Where do you think my vote would be better placed?


The question remains – why did you move your vote to Shotgun specifically to test his claim while explicitly saying you didn’t think he would like when you ostensibly have a scum suspect in Sala?
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Post Post #59 (isolation #10) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:54 am

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Rubick wrote: Yes, to test his claim.


And this is why it is Faux-Town busywork. There is zero point to testing his claim. If someone wants to counter-claim him today then there are discussions to be had. But otherwise it is a pointless action that I suspect you made to look like you were taking a Pro-Town action when in reality you were not.

Rubick wrote:Why is Klick scum for stating that L-2 isn't a big deal, as opposed to the same statement coming from Iceguy being non-indicative of alignment? How do you feel about L-2 now that you know the Mod's VCs take loved/hated into account to determine L-#?


That’s not the reason why Klick is scum. There is certainly more to that quote than just his "L-2 is not a big deal" . Why do you assume that is it?

Once we get through a whole day without evidence of a Vote Thief I will feel much better about trusting I know where people sit re:lynch.

Why do you think it wasn’t a warranted position to take before the Vote Count and Hated claim gave us some clarity on the situation?

Why was your Sala vote a ‘serious vote’?
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Post Post #62 (isolation #11) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:14 am

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Yes, I can agree with a Rubick lynch ...

UNVOTE: Klick
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Post Post #66 (isolation #12) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 5:17 am

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In post 64, AurorusVox wrote:MagnaofIllusion (1) - IceGuy [L-5]


MOD - Please confirm this is correct ....


UNVOTE: Rubick

Mod error! Sorry!
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Post Post #68 (isolation #13) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 7:36 am

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Rubick wrote: It's fine to be worried about L-2 when you consider the hated player, but now we are aware that all L-#'s are genuine. So being worried about L-2 is an unwarranted position after the clarity.


This is a nice explanation except questioning Klick about his actions made BEFORE said clarity is perfectly valid. Clarity did not exist when Klick made his vote.

Any reason you are defending him so strongly?

VOTE: Rubick

Rubick wrote: I haven't read Think Twice, so if it's a reason from that game I'm unaware.


Well then here is a link for you.

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Make yourself aware of the game circumstances. It should not take long as the whole game is less than 2 pages long ….

Rubick wrote: The Sala vote was serious because of his contradiction.


Elaborate on the contradiction then. I haven’t seen you do so to this point.
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Post Post #76 (isolation #14) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:27 am

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In post 74, Rubick wrote:Trolled Ascetic Psychic Redirector

I chose no action N0. I was so concerned with confirming Hated status I am "trolled" by any player I target and acquire their negative component.

Being a Redirector also means there is no Vote Thief in the game.


Well aside from the fact that the "Wanting to avoid being Hated" reads as survivalist and that your claim doesn't confirm alignment ...

@Can anyone counter his "I didn't Redirect" claim
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Post Post #77 (isolation #15) » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:46 am

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In post 74, Rubick wrote:I chose no action N0. I was so concerned with confirming Hated status I am "trolled" by any player I target and acquire their negative component.


Actually looking at the Negative Role List this REALLY doesn't make sense. You weren't worried about being slowed, made brazen, made a Miller, or Magnetic? Your main concern was being Hated?

And if you were cognizant of Hated being a negative utility for a Town player (which is your claim for why you didn't shoot) why were YOU not worried about L-2 implications before the Vote Count?
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Post Post #83 (isolation #16) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:18 am

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Rubick wrote: And again, L-2 never bothered me because I was aware there was not a Vote Thief present in the game.


Yes, but your stance is that people who don’t have your “Lack of Inside Knowledge” on the Vote Thief front shouldn’t have been wary on Page 1 pre-vote count. I don’t think that makes much sense.

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Post Post #87 (isolation #17) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:29 am

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In post 86, saulres wrote:@Salamence: You still haven't answered my question. Have some L-2 motivation to do so:
VOTE: Salamence


We aren't lynching Sala today so you should probably remove that vote.
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Post Post #90 (isolation #18) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:55 am

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In post 89, IceGuy wrote:
flailflailflail


He's flailing scum but you aren't voting him why exactly?
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Post Post #99 (isolation #19) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:21 am

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@GNR
– Unvote Sala immediately please!

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Rubick wrote:GNR is not scum with Iceguy, otherwise instead of admitting a mistake he would've rationalized that the pseudovote put me at pseudo-L1.
GNR also doesn't seem like scum with MoI.

In all likelihood, GNR is probably town.


So who is your scum-team. You are ruling out GNR as Town for not being scum with Iceguy or myself. Yet you are voting Sala so either you are voting someone you don’t think is scum or your GNR is Town analysis is predicated on invalid premises and thus looks faked. Saulres already pointed this out.

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Saulres wrote: @MoI: why did you unvote Rubick in 66? Also LOL at that Think Twice game.


I thought that should be clear from the context of my quote – I saw that the Vote Count by AV reflected me being at effectively Zero votes. This meant that there was a Vote-Thief out there and I wanted to know for certain before proceeding.

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Iceguy wrote: I don't want a quickhammer (directly by Klick, or indirectly by the vote thief). No point in ending the day right now.


For someone who chastised me for questioning L-2 in the first 25 posts before we had any indication if we would actively know Hated / Loved status or the existence of a Vote Thief this response looks contradictory.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #20) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:42 am

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In post 101, Rubick wrote:I don't understand this. GNR seems town. That doesn't mean you're both scum.


You said the following -

GNR doesn't look like scum with Iceguy.
GNR doesn't look like scum with MoI.
I think GNR looks Town.

Some part of this posting doesn't make sense given this response.
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Post Post #106 (isolation #21) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:47 am

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In post 102, saulres wrote:But what's the concern over unvoting someone who's loved at L-2 with no vote thief in the game?


Because Sala is
THE WORST POSSIBLE
lynch today.

You a somewhat privy to why I think that when others are not. Unless you think we are partners together it's a bad, bad idea to lynch him today.
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Post Post #107 (isolation #22) » Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:01 am

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@Saulres
- In fact that you are privy to some bit of information that should tell you why I think we aren't lynching him yet persist in voting him still "To motivate behavior" is very, very suspect ...
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Post Post #138 (isolation #23) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 4:30 am

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In post 137, Rubick wrote:What's the case on me? You act like an idiot and I call you out for acting like an idiot, and then I play my role by trying to confirm negative claims.


Um so your 'scum read' on Sala is for acting like an idiot? That's not even close to actually alignment relevant.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #24) » Fri Sep 28, 2012 9:00 am

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MOD – As alluded to earlier I will be LA from today at 5PM EDT until Monday morning for normal family weekend duties.


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Rubick wrote: @MoI, is Salamence a better lynch tomorrow?


Well he will not be the Worst Lynch Ever tomorrow so just by default he is.

That said I don’t think he’s a good lynch tomorrow either.

Rubick wrote: is a loaded question assuming I thought his vote on Klick was an unwarranted position.


Well was my position on Klick unwarranted or not, given the facts as you know them now? You’ve danced around the issue. Commit to a position.

Rubick wrote: Which part do you disagree with?


Well agree I couldn’t be scum with GNR since I’m Town. Again – it’s not the position I have an issue with but the presentation. You are saying “My Town read on GNR was independent of my thoughts on you two” after I questioned you. If that was truly the case you wouldn’t have bothered to specify he wasn’t likely partner to either of us before calling him Town. Because regardless of whether we were scum or not you were claiming a Town read. Thus it is obviously clear you don’t think we would be partners with him. Thus it appears to me you were padding your post.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #25) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:09 am

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In post 198, Klick wrote:I'M THE COP, I HAVE A GUILTY.

I want the Miller to claim before I announce the guilty?


Saulres already claimed Miller.
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Post Post #206 (isolation #26) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:15 am

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NO MORE VOTES UNTIL I GET A CHANCE TO USE MY DAYPOWER TODAY.


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Post Post #207 (isolation #27) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:16 am

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In post 205, Salamence20 wrote:MOI: Are you very over powered scum?


No, are you?
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Post Post #211 (isolation #28) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:21 am

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In post 209, Salamence20 wrote:Based on what I know and my role, that imcriminates you very badly.


Really? I'd love to hear your reasoning given that you survived the Night.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #29) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:22 am

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Ok, have sent my action to the only remaining player that makes sense. With luck game will be broken when AV gets back to me.
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Post Post #214 (isolation #30) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:26 am

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Why don't you two unvote until I get my Results back from AV.

MOD - Can a Doctor protect against a Slow Vig Shot by protecting N2 the target?
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Post Post #218 (isolation #31) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:34 am

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In post 217, IceGuy wrote:I'm town.

I can only imagine your cop action got redirected/bent/whatever.


Nope.jpg.

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Post Post #221 (isolation #32) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 6:47 am

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So I got my results and don’t see any reason to bother not claiming in full.

I’m a Loving Neighborizing Anxious Gunsmith. So each Day 1 can investigate players to see if they have a Gun (Mafia / Vig / Cop only, Miller does NOT trip per AV). I get a QT with them that lasts until my next investigation is submitted. I also die if the person I target is lynched that Day.

Day 1 I more or less immediately investigated Saulres. It was between him and Iceguy as the players I wanted immediate confirmation on. Saulres’ positive role is Bending. He chose to redirect my Gunsmith to Salamance. Sala came back as “Has a Gun” and immediately claimed Gladitorial Vig in the QT. This is why I said he was “the Worst Possible lynch” that day as I died with him and if he was Town it also was removing our Night shot.

He claimed in the QT that he was going to shoot GNR.

Today I investigated GNR. I can’t target Saulres effectively, I know Sala’s claim and that he carries a Gun. Klick has already ‘cleared’ Shotgun and put himself in a 1v1 with Iceguy. That left GNR as my only logical target.

GNR does NOT have a Gun. He’s confirmed Town and unless someone blocked Salamance last Night today is MYLO.

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Post Post #225 (isolation #33) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 7:01 am

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Ok, with AV's input on Doc / JK protects on GNR I think we should NOT have either of them (if Town) claim today unless MYSTERY CIRCUMSTANCES occur.

Before lynching Iceguy I'd like to hear thoughts from GNR and Saulres at the minimum.

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Post Post #232 (isolation #34) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:29 am

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In post 231, Guy_Named_Riggs wrote:I have the copying effect and I targeted Ice Guy last night. When Day started, I got the Vengeful effect. That means Ice Guy is a vengeful scum(or townie if some wierd things happened during the night). We need to plan stuff out accordingly. If Ice Guy is town, we need to make sure we know another string scum canidate so we don't lose after this lynch.


Well this is a problem that quasi-solves itself.

If Iceguy is Town he knows that Klick is Scum framing him with a Guilty. Klick is the obvious Vengekill.

If Iceguy is Scum then it doesn't matter what we do in lynching him as he gets to kill who he wants. I'll stay on him in that case as my flip guarantees GNR is Town. GNR should stay off the lynch.

In either case we kill scum so it isn't a MYLO concern.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #35) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:44 am

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In post 233, saulres wrote:Why do you assume IceGuy is Vengeful?


Why are you not reading? GNR just claimed Copying as his ability and claimed to have roleblocked Iceguy last Night and gotten Vengeful as a result.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #36) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:16 am

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In post 241, saulres wrote:Either way, both of those support Sala-scum. If Sala's scum and pulled a double-delay-kill gambit then we'd need to take out Klick or MoI (or whoever Sala's partner is) today, or figure out who Sala's other target was and protect him tonight.


And this is why Saulres is scum with Ice.

Take out Klick OR MoI today? Nope. If you thought Sala was scum you'd just be happy to get rid of him instead to make sure he doesn't get another kill.

And meanwhile the "Whoever is his partner" logic fails since one of Klick or Iceguy MUST be scum. You are stating that Sala is scum. He can only have one partner. Icguy must be Town via this logic so Klick by default is scum. Yet you are positing that Town Klick could be lying about his result of Guilty on Town Iceguy.

Saulres basically confirmed as Iceguy partner if Iceguy is indeed the scum in Klick / Iceguy.

I think that GNR should be off the Wagon on Ice and that myself, Saulres, Sala and Klick should be on it.
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Post Post #247 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:21 am

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In post 246, saulres wrote:Moi: I'm very happy to get rid of Sala today, but if he has two delayed kills going out tonight then his partner could end the game tonight. That's what scares me.


Derp ... how could he have two delayed kills going out? Please explain that in a way that isn't an Appeal to Fear.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #38) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:29 am

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In post 248, saulres wrote:Oh fuck you're right, if Klick's town then IceGuy is scum, so it can't be Sala-you. I knew something was bothering me about that but I couldn't put my finger on it.

pedit: He's slow, right?

So he kills someone and vigges someone last night, and neither take effect until tonight.


Because those two kills don't matter for 'end the game purposes' worries if we lynch scum today. So if you 'know' Sala is scum you should be pushing him.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 01, 2012 9:52 am

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VOTE: Iceguy
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Post Post #261 (isolation #40) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:26 am

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@Saulres
- ask AV if you can either choose to not Bend or Bend to yourself.

Whoever is the Jailkeeper needs to claim immediately.
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Post Post #263 (isolation #41) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:20 am

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In post 262, saulres wrote:According to AV, my bending is both compulsory and non self-directing. I wish it were otherwise so I could prove to you my alignment.


Yeah, that was your only hope.

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Post Post #264 (isolation #42) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:23 am

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Post Post #268 (isolation #43) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:31 am

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Categorized Roles List –

Rubick - Trolled Ascetic Psychic Redirector
IceGuy - Magnetic Vengeful Unlimited Doctor
Klick - Macho Bulletproof Double-shot Cop
Guy_Named_Riggs - Brazen Copying Bloodthirsty Roleblocker

Saulres – Miller Bending Non-Consecutive Watcher
MagnaofIllusion – Loving Neighborizing Anxious Gunsmith
drmyshotgun – Hated Ninja Day Warden
Salamence20 – Slow Loved Gladatorial Vig

Things we also know to be true –

Rubick took no action N0.
There was no Town Jailkeeper or Doctor to prevent the scum N1 kill that is missing.
There is no Town Jailkeeper to prevent GNR from dying N2.
GNR Roleblocked Iceguy N1
Klick was Vengekilled D2 so there was no way his bulletproof could have stopped the N2 Mafia kill.

@MOD – Would Klick have been informed if his Bulletproof went into effect Night 1?
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Post Post #270 (isolation #44) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:33 am

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@MOD - Would the Slow Negative element affect the Scum Nightkill also?
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Post Post #272 (isolation #45) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:34 am

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In post 271, drmyshotgun wrote:Thinking of voting Salamance.


Why exactly? I'd like to know your reasoning.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #46) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:42 am

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@Shotgun
- I'll make my Saures scum case sometime in the next day or so. Please hold off until then.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #47) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:09 am

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Shotgun stop being a Moron. The only person who COULD have made the kill attempt for scum last Night was Saulres who GNR blocked.

Yes, he told me this in the QT.

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Post Post #326 (isolation #48) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:23 pm

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Well I'm exhausted so I'll get to this in the morning. Suffice it to say AV's revelations about Klick's bulletproof status mean for certain that Saulres is the last scum. Also the Vengekill choice by Iceguy shows clearly that the Scum knew about Shotgun's role.

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Post Post #328 (isolation #49) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:25 pm

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For Town, yes.
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Post Post #329 (isolation #50) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:26 pm

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Either that or Iceguy risked keeping a potential Jailkeeper alive to block the GNR Vig Shot and Sala decided no-killing was the correct play ...
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Post Post #355 (isolation #51) » Thu Oct 04, 2012 2:40 am

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Good game Town. Interesting that it came down to LYLO (that is what it was today thanks to Shotgun's Hated role) without a Single Scum Nightkill going through.

@AV
- Thanks for modding. You performed smoothly and effectively as I expected. It was an interesting and I think well-put together set-up. I found it funny how some of the roles shook out (Saulres being a Miller and Bending meant he was immune to all but Track investigations, my combination worked very well given the Loving, Klick's Macho trumping his Bulletproof was Lulz-worthy). Keep me informed about your next game ... I want in!

I think overall the Town players played well. I twigged to both Saulres and Iceguy for their Day 1 play and I think the soft dance Iceguy did with Rubick (calling him scum and not scum-hunting while keeping his vote parked on me) doomed him. Town I think made good use of it's powers - GNR was clutch with two Scum Kill blocks, Klick made good use of his investigation (while taking a risk in waiting til N1 given he was not actually Bulletproof). Sala's transparency in the Day 1 QT was very helpful in me clearing him as Town despite his role masking a possible Guilty to me.

@Saulres
- The reason I chose either you or Iceguy (and I'm glad in hindsight it was you) was that you two were the players I wanted immediate confirmation (if possible) on regarding having a Gun. If you came back positive I wanted all Day to see what our interaction in the QT brought.

Also - Did you and Ice get to confer on the Vengekill? Because the choice of Klick confirmed before Night 2 that you were scum. For those not twigging to it - post lynch on Iceguy there were only two unclaimed players as far as ability goes ... Saulres and Shotgun (Jail slot and Watch slot). If Sala is scum with Iceguy they can't know whether Shotgun or Saulres is the possible Jailkeeper who can thwart the GNR confirmed Town shot. So the logical move is to Vengekill Shotgun, hope he is the Jailkeeper, and see what happens. But Iceguy shot Klick instead. The only reason to do that is if by process of elimination the scum know there was no Jailkeeper due to Shotgun being Day. And that points to Iceguy knowing your role.

@GNR
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@Sala
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