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Town Role PM wrote:Welcome,<Player Name>. You are a.Vanilla Townie
Your only ability is your vote, but unlike normal games, your vote is a little stronger as you may vote for as many different players at once as you'd like.
Win condition: You win when all the mafia are eliminated.
Please confirm by PMing me with your role. Game thread is here.
Mafia Role PM wrote:Welcome,<Player Name>. You are a, along with your partner,Mafia Goon<Player Name>.
During the night phase, you may talk to your partner here. Each night phase, you and your partner may choose one player in the game to kill.
Win condition: You win when your faction controls 50% of the town.
Please confirm by PMing me with your role. Game thread is here.
In post 5, Rainbowdash wrote:So important theory type thing in this setup - large amount of votes out are anti-town in nature. If you MUST have multiple out it needs to be explicitly clear who your top suspect is.
Vote Venrob
Also rule 8? Seriously?
Yes, seriously. If this is a problem please see rule 12.
In post 8, Voidedmafia wrote:
To be more specific, don't put out more than 2 votes at a time. I mean, RVS is fine, but to increase responsibility for your votes only 2 are really needed.
In post 9, Rainbowdash wrote:In post 8, Voidedmafia wrote:
To be more specific, don't put out more than 2 votes at a time. I mean, RVS is fine, but to increase responsibility for your votes only 2 are really needed.
Even two votes are borderline bad. The more votes the more chaos and confusion and thats something that helps scum far more than town in just about any situation.
One vote. If you must have more you absolutely have down who is your top suspect.
In post 13, uctriton00 wrote:Hello.
Vote: RainbowDash
Whenever I see you talk about setup, I think it's scummy.
Sample set of 1.
In post 13, uctriton00 wrote:Hello.
Vote: RainbowDash
Whenever I see you talk about setup, I think it's scummy.
Sample set of 1.
I don't see an issue with multiple votes. In fact, I think that yields more information on avarage than do only one.In post 11, Rainbowdash wrote:The problem with two votes is it makes analysis harder as unless its very explicit it can be hard to tell who actually somepony has as a top suspect or anything like that. Even then it can allow for a misrepresentation of wagons in the long run, especially if some players take to throwing out a large amount of votes.
Rainbowdash wrote:But I love breaking down setups, town or scum. If we know what is right it limits chance of stupidity injuring us.
buldermar wrote:I don't see an issue with multiple votes. In fact, I think that yields more information on avarage than do only one.
shos wrote:VOTE: Buldermar
caught scum post 6 so scummy mcscum
In post 19, Mr.K wrote:While I doubt I'll go past 1 vote myself, I also don't think 2-3 votes is necessarily anti-town. Of course that heavily depends on the manner of votes as well.
Cogito Ergo Sum wrote:Having 2 votes to use frees you up to do some interesting things. More votes than that and responsibility gets diluted.
Yes, forcing players to one vote limits information (and, as such, advocating this limitation is anti-town behavior). I think that some (perhaps many) players here are incapable of making proper adjustments to the game theory optimal for "conventional" setups. On this same token, I don't currently have reason to believe that Rainbowdash isn't advocating a personal misconception of proper game theory (as opposed to deliberately misleading town).In post 20, ChaosOmega wrote:
buldermar:
buldermar wrote:I don't see an issue with multiple votes. In fact, I think that yields more information on avarage than do only one.
Do you follow the converse, that forcing players to one vote only limits information? If so, do you think Rainbowdash is scummy for pushing that belief?
In post 20, ChaosOmega wrote:Rainbowdash wrote:But I love breaking down setups, town or scum. If we know what is right it limits chance of stupidity injuring us.
Well that's awfully altruistic of you to do as scum. I'm not saying you wouldn't do this setup analysis regardless of alignment, I just want to know what your actual reason would be for doing it as scum.