Yet Another Dance of the Title Fairy: Change Up

[Mr. Flay]

Buttonman needs a title himself.

Mission Accomplished.

[Mr. Flay]

I'm not gay, I'm bisexual.

[Mr. Flay]

surprised this hasn't been done yet

Because...it's not that funny? Or notable?

[Mr. Flay]

hasn't stopped this thread before

Not a compelling argument for further crapflinging.

[Mr. Flay]

KillerJester for

Target Practice

.
Again.

Why?

[Mr. Flay]

I doubt it'll make you happier for the knowing.

[Mr. Flay]

Lowercase like that?

I was thinking something like

Hate Magnet

- she's polarizing for no obvious reason. But that might be too rough of a title. singularity is subtler.

[Mr. Flay]

it can be uppercase, I'm not particular

Was just curious, I kinda like it.

Smug Cycle is waaaay too involved.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, it really is too early. But I guess UT wanted to get the idea on paper...

[Mr. Flay]

It will not help. The idea is that titles come from the community to the user, not the user themselves.

[Mr. Flay]

All the rules are really guidelines if the TF disagrees/overrules them. It's just that avatars have historically not provided many good titles, so it's better to stem the tide.

I think the Six Month rule is better than the old 100-post rule, but may be slightly too long. Not strongly tied one way or the other, though.

nom Crypto for A Stranger

It's pretty solid, but I think the "A" is superfluous.

[Mr. Flay]

Posting rates used to be much lower overall. Or at least, median rates.

[Mr. Flay]

Is that actually going to be a thing with the new fairy?

People not getting titles they don't want?

Yes.

This has always been true of Title Fairy.

[Mr. Flay]

Oh. IDGI then... we always try to stop people from discussing dead titles/completely offtopic crap in TF threads. It sometimes works (usually better when the TF isn't burnt out, cf: Oman in late 2012)

[Mr. Flay]

I seriously read that as

Megatron

at first...

No objections (and yes, Metatron was a role in the second game).

[Mr. Flay]

I seriously read that as

Megatron

at first...

No objections (and yes, Metatron was a role in the second game).

Hell, I did until this post.

You should get your eyes checked

(sorry, Buttons)

[Mr. Flay]

I don't get a "vote" but Gabriel does not have a clear association, even in my mind. It's a common name.

[Mr. Flay]

Well, lots of titles are fairly impenetrable. I actually think the EGOTistical thing is fairly clever, but I'm not tied to it.

[Mr. Flay]

I think that's the fastest new title I've ever seen on this site.

I welcome our new Fairy overlord.

[Mr. Flay]

Yup. Used to be that a Technical/Admin had to do them, but someone cooked up a mod that allows TF to do them without all the extra buttons.

[Mr. Flay]

We could always draft a Title Fairy Emeritus to pull the trigger on TBM, should he get a good nom.

That said, Clapping Optional is terribad.

[Mr. Flay]

2nd

[Mr. Flay]

Spam? Had Some, Thanks

might be more appropriate.

[Mr. Flay]

Granger Danger is not bad, the rest are very meh to verybad.

[Mr. Flay]

Also, did Buttons start the Van trend in Newbies or something? I'm missing why that's being pushed his direction when it's a group effort...

[Mr. Flay]

Nominate The Fonz for

I Make This Look Easy

. I've always admired his skill/cool, and not just because of the username (though it helps).

[Mr. Flay]

Too easy.

[Mr. Flay]

Not really; I wanted to avoid the easy username puns without avoiding the name entirely, and that was the phrase that jumped out.

[Mr. Flay]

Ugh no. None of these are nearly as good as Stranger etc, can we go back to discussing that? Or did crypto veto it?

[Mr. Flay]

Damn. ISO was unclear.

[Mr. Flay]

Huh?

[Mr. Flay]

If even the recipient doesn't understand it, I doubt it will make a good title.

[Mr. Flay]

Aren't we meant to be titling for stuff related to something?

FTFY

[Mr. Flay]

Windmills: 0. Sickles: 1.

I like that he's an iconoclast, kinda gives me a Don Quixote vibe. Throw in some communism imagery and bob's your uncle?

[Mr. Flay]

Abuse of Power!

[Mr. Flay]

Other people use the phrase "except when s/he" too.

[Mr. Flay]

Never saw that one coming...

[Mr. Flay]

Huh?

Are you just being sexist, or am I missing something?

[Mr. Flay]

Not being able to understand a title LATER is not the same as not being able to understand a title when it's being proposed/given. There's a natural element of decay, Buttons is just saying he doesn't want to encourage that.

[Mr. Flay]

we kind of overused that for a while to get it to be a title...

Hence why it's a bad title. Stop forcing things, people.

[Mr. Flay]

If I see a brilliant one, I'll consider it. So far only Hard Asss comes close.

[Mr. Flay]

I don't think that's a moment we want to remember.

[Mr. Flay]

CoolDog is now officially a

Wanker

.

I endorse this product or service, but hope CD can find a new sig now. At present it's kind of overkill.

[Mr. Flay]

gorckat, do you like to Vig? Can't remember.

[Mr. Flay]

Sorry, I meant do you like being a Vig? Because

Pepe Le Pew Pew Pew

is coming to mind...

[Mr. Flay]

^
^

[Mr. Flay]

Gotta agree with Tierce, but I'm a filthy pagan purist. Either is good.

Minor nitpick: demon = malevolent, while daemon (daimon) is a class of beings from Greek myth, many of them actually benevolent. (The Roman version of daemons included the Lares, for example.)

The root of the word is the same, but they mean different things. In this case, you're looking for the

demon

version, not the

daemon

one.

[Mr. Flay]

Casey Kasem

I know I'm old and out of touch, but this made me laugh out loud. Is CK even on the air anymore?

Thirded

[Mr. Flay]

I'm inclined to agree with Reck; the rest seem forced.

[Mr. Flay]

Scanned a bit, but I'm seeing

Hardasses

and

Hardasss

for TBM, as well as various incarnations of the Fairy meme which aren't really gaining a whole lot of traction IMO.

The spelling thing is pretty compelling to me, but I'll let TBM veto it if he wants. Will probably make a decision after the weekend if no other strong contenders come forward. Keep talking!

[Mr. Flay]

Don't be hateful, otter.

Seeing as the

obsession with TBM's backside

support is basically unanimous, I am only waiting on TBM's non-veto to go forward.

[Mr. Flay]

wait what since when is Oman no longer the TitleFairy

what is this

Speaking of 'don't get out much'...

[Mr. Flay]

Just no.

1. It's based off another user's title
   
2. It doesn't do a good job of describing the user
   
3. It's dull and unimaginative
   
4. It has nothing to do with the site
   
5. Being gay is no longer noteworthy on the site
   
6. We can do better for ActionDan

chesskid actually talks/talked up the Princeton thing a lot, on the site. It's ironic and amusing. This is a bad suggestion and you should feel bad for suggesting it.

[Mr. Flay]

Benevolent Bulldozer

(without the The) isn't bad, but

Jekyll and Hyde

is heaps better.

[Mr. Flay]

Why not give them all Princeton titles?

Because this isn't collegelife.net?

Also what Korts said.

[Mr. Flay]

Holy crap is that hilarious. I don't know if the other Skittles will go for it though.

[Mr. Flay]

i'm here to Nth Adrnin as long as its put into red.

Not gonna happen, due to possible confusion. Only SaberKitty has a colored title I believe, and no one is going to confuse hers for a Skittle.

I'll talk to chamber about Adrnin.

[Mr. Flay]

Benevolent Bulldozer

(without the The) isn't bad, but

Jekyll and Hyde

is heaps better.

vs.

is okay, but I think

and

is better.

[Mr. Flay]

Yup.

[Mr. Flay]

[Mr. Flay]

why the fuck are giving a title to a guy for spamming FWAN and being a derp?

[Mr. Flay]

I think of Quag and Shea way sooner for FWAN. Or DP. Or Korts and his poetry readings.Or the lady who rides horses. And several other people who have posted actually

interesting

pictures of themselves in various situations or locations, but whose exact username escapes me right now.

[Mr. Flay]

Great Idea or Greatest Idea?

? included, of course.

[Mr. Flay]

stahp.jpg

[Mr. Flay]

Gawd no.

[Mr. Flay]

You can probably blame Cards Against Humanity.

[Mr. Flay]

[Mr. Flay]

Mr. Congeniality

and

Popular!

are the only two I really like so far. And MrC actually made me laugh out loud.

[Mr. Flay]

Or at least most SE users...?

(thanks for spelling it out)

[Mr. Flay]

The hydra connection is fairly clear in "Hydrated" if you're not like completely new to mafia. Come on.

Also, that's not Greek, FFS. Αυτό είναι ελληνικό.

[Mr. Flay]

[Mr. Flay]

they're pronounced the same...

Nerp.

http://192.20.225.36/tts/speech/7f4ab28 ... 950942.wav
http://192.20.225.36/tts/speech/6dcf676 ... 65ea18.wav

[Mr. Flay]

Speaking of Hercules, Get Up On The Hydra's Back could be a decent one maybe?

Terrible.

Hydrated is the only decent one of late.

[Mr. Flay]

I say no.

If her hydras have titles it should reflect all members not just Mara.

This.

Also most (all?) will not qualify for age.

[Mr. Flay]

Nominate Sudo_Nym for

Cheezborger! No Coke!

for this sequence. I'm crying over here I'm laughing so hard.

[Mr. Flay]

Yep: http://www.hulu.com/watch/3533 (http://snltranscripts.jt.org/78/78golympia.phtml)

[Mr. Flay]

The No Coke seems very strange.

Flay is old.

I'm older. What do I win?

Depends.

I C WUT U DID THAR, sonny.

[Mr. Flay]

Cheezborger! Cheezborger!

nth

- I'm not tied to the Coke part if that's what's holding things up.

[Mr. Flay]

Too easy. Part of the charm of the hitoshrug is the rarity. Having it on every one of his posts will destroy that.

:edit: oh I see how you are, new page.

[Mr. Flay]

Of course, we DO have titles that apply to a vast majority of the site's members...

Tourist
Townsperson
Mafia Scum
etc.

[Mr. Flay]

3rd

~ now that's more like it.

[Mr. Flay]

It's sub-tull.

[Mr. Flay]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scat_singing

[Mr. Flay]

Snark Attack

, no punctuation.

[Mr. Flay]

perhaps i should add that i think no punctuation is better because his snark is usually deadpan.

Good point.

[Mr. Flay]

my title is no less good or bad because more people are getting titles.

But it

is

kinda clipped by the V/LA sign.

Not on my screen.

kdowns, I'll bite. Who has more wins in S+BB?

[Mr. Flay]

2nd

, if notsci will accept it. That was astonishing.

[Mr. Flay]

It broke the game, turning it from a LyLo loss to a scum rout. And yes, notsci hammered on other occasions both in that game and others.

[Mr. Flay]

Everyone has hammered. I mean the specific "this is a hammer" joke.

This trend of shit play == title nom is saddening.

It wasn't shit play (not like we haven't given titles for that before - hi zorotter!). It was INCREDIBLY unlucky play. Jake beat them to the hammer by 30 seconds.

They were coordinating it via daytalk.

[Mr. Flay]

Ugh, I feel like Jake's side is more of a Memorable Moment thing than a title... brb.

[Mr. Flay]

Ugh, I feel like Jake's side is more of a Memorable Moment thing than a title... brb.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p5270399

[Mr. Flay]

Ugh, I feel like Jake's side is more of a Memorable Moment thing than a title... brb.

Why can't it be both?

I think the Jake title is a stretch, way moreso than the notsci one.

I'm not opposed to it, but I feel like Title/Scummy is the better fit.

[Mr. Flay]

eh. We're really trying to write a title based on a user-generated thread a day old?

[Mr. Flay]

mastin's most distinctive thing, is his way of making really really really long posts

But thats not a good thing to base a mastin title on.

Yeah it is. You just have to make it something like:

This is my title which I was awarded

for being exceptionally verbose. I'm trying to get

better about it but it is difficult to be concise. That doesn't

mean that it isn't important to be concise, just that I struggle

with it at times, which only serves to emphasize for me how important it is

to be concise, and not verbose.

[Mr. Flay]

my general policy is that once someone declines a great title for themselves, we should stop for like... 6 months or so. That's particularly true if they SUGGEST a different title for themselves (and even more particularly if that title they suggest is positive sounding, as "every word counts" so obviously is. I know you think your legacy is both being wordy and advocating brevity, but really it's just that you're wordy).

also, those alternative mastin titles are not good.

This and this.

[Mr. Flay]

Where does it come from? I just saw the one thread reply...

[Mr. Flay]

uGH.

[Mr. Flay]

Boy, that title just BARELY fits, doesn't it?!?

[Mr. Flay]

mastin explicitly rejected it.

[Mr. Flay]

Nth

Safe Behind My Walls

- it's inferior to several he won't accept, but still gets at the essential mastinness.

[Mr. Flay]

Title Fairy Policy:

1. Accounts must be at least six months old before they can be nominated.
2. There is no requirements for nominating someone.
3. Self nominations will not be accepted.
4. Nominations based on avatars will not be accepted.
5. Recipients must approve of the title.
6. This thread is for title discussion only.

I think Buttons needs to exercise his authority. Abuse of Rule #5 is causing the spirit of Rule #3 to be violated. People, like mastin (& there have been others), are constantly refusing perfectly fine titles because they want to nudge towards a preferred title.

The Titling on his site has been a fine tradition of "hey, we as a site recognize you as having made a great, funny, and/or super interesting contribution to this site. Here's a title!" to which the recipient responds with "Hey! I don't find that title insulting! So be it!" Then the Title Fairy acts and all are happy.

Now lately it's a series of manipulative jockeying of "no.. that's not quite right. Try again, peons! I DEMAND BETTER!" and the fun is dead.

This happened on your watch, Buttons. Either fix it or let it be your shameful legacy.

Not to defend mastin2's own ego, but if people aren't happy with title nominations, they shouldn't have to accept them, no matter how popular. Rule #3 is there to stop anyone just walking in and asking for a title like in the old days, not to prevent universally known and popular users actively participating in the process of their own titling. At least, that's how I see it. TheButtonmen can and should correct me if I'm wrong here.

(Not that it really matters much now, anyway.)

Hence why we should stop renomming people right after they reject one. Okay, you didn't like it, see you in six months when you've done something new and different for us to title off of.

It's the back-and-forth between the nominators and the nominee that gets into this sense of "you're getting warmer..."

[Mr. Flay]

Don't quote things outside of Speakeasy, either.

[Mr. Flay]

While true about his current title, Kison isn't the one bribing. Other people post haiku to try to get us to do stuff...

[Mr. Flay]

Policy Lynch or WotC him. Don't title him for it.

[Mr. Flay]

Too much game

works well with that monster tv he plays on, too.

[Mr. Flay]

Still not all that unique IMO.

[Mr. Flay]

Man, we really need that sarcasm font.

[Mr. Flay]

Photogenic

This.

[Mr. Flay]

He looks good in pictures, AND he likes to compliment people who look good in pictures. And he posts pictures, but that's less unique.

[Mr. Flay]

thingamajig is the only halfway decent mollie one so far.

Also, as to the question of user preference: If there are several viable (2nd'ed/5th'ed, I think per TBM) options and no strong community preference, then yes the user can get to pick/vote for their own. Otherwise all they generally get is veto power. Doing more tends to cause a backlash from the titling community.

[Mr. Flay]

Thingmaker is quality.

[Mr. Flay]

IDGI.

[Mr. Flay]

Hammered Hammerer seems fine. Everything else is needlessly long (it's the m's).

[Mr. Flay]

Both the Mister Rogers account and the CEScum are alts, unsurprisingly.

[Mr. Flay]

Latter. First is flat.

get it?

[Mr. Flay]

Both the Mister Rogers account and the CEScum are alts, unsurprisingly.

Really? Can I ask what are the main accounts of both those alts?

No.

I mean, you can ask...

[Mr. Flay]

I can't think of who you're talking about, so... maybe not? Then again I don't play/review much right now.

That's actually a neat trick. Name the title and see if anybody can figure out who it is for. If not, it's probably not a good title.

[Mr. Flay]

I will

veto

vote against anything doge.

What about just

Restrictive

?

[Mr. Flay]

Yes, but why on earth would we?

[Mr. Flay]

The link is not happening. Backwards text is fine.

[Mr. Flay]

I said it was

technically

possible. I didn't say I would do it.

[Mr. Flay]

Personally don't think duplicated posts everywhere is title worthy, even if it's common? The non-intended and accidental consequence of internet or computer slowness that makes said double posts, isn't exactly a quality trait I guess?

Agree with this

[Mr. Flay]

Varsoon's title isn't an insult. It's just a reference to his oddness... I don't know where this idea that it is rewarding bad play comes from.

[Mr. Flay]

Flay wasn't saying yours was an insult

my bad then.

No worries.