Open 461: True Love (GAME OVER)

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Hi, do you guys want to claim lovers?

VOTE: Bitmap
YOU FOOLED ME ONCE, I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU DO IT AGAIN.

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Don't worry, he's already claimed scum by voting me.
VOTE: Sala

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Why thank you, I made it myself :D

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Pretty sure claiming companion cubes isn't good. We could decide not to lynch a scummy player just because they're paired with somebody good. The fact is, if they're scum it doesn't matter who they're paired with.

I smell someone using my scum meta idea from last True Love game.

VOTE: greygnarl

I spotted that too.

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Because it's not vote worthy, silly.
In fact I'm tempted to vote you for the vote on me, just like I did with Sala :P

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So considering how the consensus seems to be that we will claim lovers either at the end of the day or on Day 2, how do you guys feel about discussing in-thread thigns your lover may have said in your QT?

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So um, how y'all doing?

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Y u no answer my question?

Also I'm tired since my sister had a late halloween party earlier and now it's 12:18AM.

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So considering how the consensus seems to be that we will claim lovers either at the end of the day or on Day 2, how do you guys feel about discussing in-thread thigns your lover may have said in your QT?

Why not?

Because it may potentially reveal who our companion cube is based on what is said.

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Goddamnit you lazy fucks, get the hell in here and talk.

Here, discuss the situational scumslip in my first post that means Bitmap and I could be buddies togegther.

Hi, do you guys want to claim lovers?

VOTE: Bitmap
YOU FOOLED ME ONCE, I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU DO IT AGAIN.

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Shit, I shouldn't have said that then. Goddamnit, too late now.

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Confirm vote: Om

Why you always pal around with people as scum?

Because I don't? I don't really know what you're getting at here, I buddy anyone I think is cool. I've buddied as scum and as town (and for some reason when I buddy as town I generally tend to buddy scum :V). You're being dumb.

Not sure but let him keep doing it. He's so easy to read when he does it ;)

So why exactly am I scum for buddying?

I'm feeling Om is scum consider his "Oh too late now" remark. I it's as if he's trying to say "Hey guys, I'm with Bitmap and he's like uber town, so don't lynch me. And Bitmap does seem to be town so loosing him would be a shame.

Moneybags, I think you need to learn how to take a joke :P
Also you're town.

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Because the fact you've already decided you're willing to suicide solely for your companion cube's death rings so many townie bells for me.

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Are you literally just jumping on any player?

Gut is not a good reason by itself to vote someone. Nor can I argue you off about your read because I can't dispute gut. Find something I did scummy and call me out on it. Otherwise I will just come to the conclusion you are hopping around on players to see if you can't get others to follow.

Wrong.

See: every one of OM's games.

Mala is being way too jittery and it's making me worried. However I can't discern whether or not this is coming from town or scum Mala so I'm not ready to vote just on that yet.
Oh, while I'm at it, might as well remove my RVS vote lol.
UNVOTE:

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Goddamnit you lazy fucks, get the hell in here and talk.

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I had to laugh at Moneybags'. He's saying that he thinks his own partner is scum, but doesn't want votes on someone because of his own alignment.

Do you think Moneybags is scum?

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Not knowing who is partner is I don't believe Money is scum regardless.

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Well I wouldn't be surprised if greygnarl is scum, though I don't have that much of a strong read on him. Right now his worst post is #69 but it's not as bad as the worry I get from Mala's attitude.

Goddamnit, I need to be more decisive but I can't be fucked doing anything right now.

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I read anger from your posts, but I can't tell whether it's fake or just townie frustration.
Since you implied one scum between the two, now that Money has revealed that greygnarl is his companion cube who do you think is the scum between them?

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I don't want anybody lynched just yet though, people need to start talking or shit's going to get real.

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I'm also amused at how there's other reasons your scum, but you continue to attack the one that's easiest to shoot down. Keep talking, this is fun to watch.

Echoing iiau here, what are the other reasons?

@Mala: Do you still think I'm scum? Do you think iiau is scum or are you just overreacting to his vote.
JSYK, If someone votes you based on only gut then there's really no need to get your knickers in a twist about unless they put you at L-1 or something. I don't know why you're basically pseudo-OMGUS'ing iiau for his vote.

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Yeah iiau mentioned it at the end of #83.

I see no reason for you to be annoyed, do you have something to hide? Why do you bother to make sure he has made an effort in regards to his vote on you?
I think he's town, I don't see a reason for him to be scum, I'm calling it that way since your language and behvaiour reminds me of when I'm OMGUS'ing someone.

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Well Money didn't seem to bother mentioning those reasons after he asked so I thought I'd give the message some more publicity since frankly I'm interested as well.

Get well soon~<3
So have you managed to figure out if he's scum or town yet?
(lately you've actually been reminding me of me a lot in your playstyle :P)

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I think Om is scum.

O wise one, do you have anything else to say? Put a vote on me you pussy, maybe then you can join the solely scum wagon I have on me.

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Wow Bitmap, way to avoid my first question.
Try commenting on the game that's happening while you're off in your own world.

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I've been the one trying to get the game moving the whole time goddamnit.
My companion cube isn't responding to me and it's making me sad :(
Mala's vote on GG just then sounded absolutely terrible. Mala, do you still think GG is scum after his "explanation?"

Seriously, if you want the game to move faster, try explaining why the fuck I'm suspicious. As far as I know I've done nothing wrong, but there seems to be a conspiracy theory saying otherwise.

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Lalala~
VOTE: Josh Lyman

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Pretty sure I know who both scum are, and I'm not one of them.

That is NOT all. You also confirmed what he said. And you're vote-hopping more than a toad.

Vote: greygnarl

I hope I'm not the only one who sees something.

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Try and figure out what I'm seeing in the meantime.

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You do realise I've called you scum already, right?
Also if you claim to know my meta as well as you say you do you should know that I don't really focus on other people's meta much anyway.

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He likes to buddy as scum, he'll pick a player and buddy them. Sometimes he'll do it as town, but it reads more jokingly. When he buddies as scum he tends to defend them against others.

Actually no, I buddy awesome people and the only awesome person (not counting you, but I'm not a fan of your attitude this game tbh) is Bitmap but he's being super lazy this game and is barely posting so I'm unable to buddy with him :P

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I'm not really aggressive unless I find something scummy or I'm in an arrogant mood. School sucks and has been getting me down and being really stressful and I'm being very lax in all my games atm.

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lol
i should do it again this game and keep up that record
this is totally not a soft claim or anything i don't know what you're talking about

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I don't really care who answers tbh.
My companion cube answered in our QT though.

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Yeah basically.

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Damnit Bitmap you're making it too easy to bus you :P

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I still find gg to be really scummy so I'll leave my vote on him. I'm up for either an Om or gg wagon about now. Josh is a maybe considering how inactive he is.

@Mala: How confident are you on Om scum?

Lol, fine with a wagon on all the main wagons throughout the day so far, also he's totally testing the waters in regards to a wagon on me again.
I told you it was too easy to bus him :P

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I'm willing to lynch either Om

This is what everybody seems to be saying but only Mala seems to have the ability to back up her accusation with a decent reason :P

I don't think GG is the best lynch for today, right now I'm actually leaning town on him, since he's actually trying to make sense of things and is actually giving a damn about this game. Bitmap, Mala or Lyman are the lynches I'm fine with. I think there is one scum between Bitmap and Mala, right now I'm leaning towards Bitmap.

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Nononono, I'm scum with Bitmap so I know his alignment, I'm just pretending not to know so it looks like I'm town.


Seriously it's a joke :P

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I think Om is scum.

VOTE: Om

Grey is flailing so hard.

VOTE: GG

I still find gg to be really scummy so I'll leave my vote on him. I'm up for either an Om or gg wagon about now. Josh is a maybe considering how inactive he is.

@Mala: How confident are you on Om scum?

So far Bitmap's only expressed actual reads on 2 people (GG and me), the only reasons he's actually given were on his RVS votes (except his support for Josh lynch but lurker lynch already is dumb). Also as I said earlier he's testing the waters for a potential lynch on me with no reason mentioned s to why I'm scum.

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C'mon greygnarl, go the full mile.
VOTE: Bitmap


I'm not opposed to claiming lovers either.

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Really? The "hey lets lynch Bit" jump from him for in part trying to lynch lurker JL who OOTN had been voting that shows up right after grey shows Bit support, it just feels a bit scummy when you look at the timing. He also is joking a whole lot about being scum which just makes me uncomfortable since thats not behavior I have seen him exhibit in the past. That and that he claims Mala has a "decent reason" for voting him, which im not sure ive ever thought anypony had a decent reason for voting me as town. As SCUM I have had that thought, but never as town.

So I'm not allowed to switch from a wagon on someone who was being replaced to another person I had a scumread on? I've actually put arguably more effort into making a case on Bit than I have for anyone else in the game.
Whenever I'm with Bitmap we always seem to joke a lot together, it's seriously nothing to be worried about.
Mala was the only one to bring up a decent reason because she actually brought up a reason that wasn't just "your playstyle instantly makes me think you're scum" (quote greygnarl). It's basically my way of saying "Hey you fucks give a reason or get the hell off my wagon you have no place here."

You seem to be basing everything off me being scum, but what about when I flip town? Who is the scumteam then?

You realise Mala is doing the exact same thing that you accused me of doing with grey. As soon as you showed support on my wagon, Mala hopped along right behind you. What makes her wagon hop different from mine?

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I want a lynch that is either Bitmap or Mala. I definitely do not want a lynch on the GG/Money pair since they are obvtown as fuck. So when there's an opportunity to start a wagon on someone who isn't GG/Money then why wouldn't I take it?

You're thinking way too far ahead into the game, and I really don't like that.

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Oh hey RBD, it's nice to see you. Knowing RBD, it's probably best not to claim lovers if she has a really good suspicion to not claim lovers.

Also RBD, why Om over GG?

The buddy buddy is strong in this one.
RBD, your reads are absolute shit, Bitmap is scum.

Also hey, last time RBD replaced into a game and tried to take control he ended up flipping scum. JSYK.

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Here is my huge problem with you right now.
You seem to have the game figured out, and have planned out everyone's actions throughout the whole game. I don't see why you'd need to do this as town. You're supposed to convince people, not act like they're already convinced. Not everyone is your pawn, and it just seems like you're going against the people who won't follow you.
You seem to act like it's obvious who all the pairs are, and that all the connections are obvious as fuck, yet you've failed to explain a single thing, like why my pair having scum equates to either GG/Money or your pair having the last scum.
You're just trying to rush through my lynch as fast as you can so that people won't have time to see just how little you've actually done in regards to everything else that's happened in the game. You've made a short paragraph on the majority of the people in the game, yet you've made a huge case on me and based literally everything off that.
You're acting like I'm the definite lynch for today and you fail to realise that it's entirely possible for someone else to get lynched. You've put all your effort into getting me lynched today, that you'll just be left scrambling tomorrow if I'm still alive then because none of your accusations mean anything without my flip.
You're full of confirmation bias and it's just fucking bullshit.

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You seem to be completely blind to the fact that people have jumped on me the whole game with little to no reason at all because you're fucking biased against me and oblivious to the fact that there is a game going on around us.
Go on, explain that.

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You do realise Money just randomly jumped on me too after you and Mala had voted me.
I'm prime mislynch bait right now and you don't even realise it. It's quite easy for scum to just vote me and not even have to give a reason because you're doing all the work.
Then again, you're scum too.

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AND YOU HAVEN'T SAID WHY

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YOU HAVEN'T EXPLAINED WHY

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So I'm trying to still figure out if RBD is scum or not and if she's leading us to a ditch or she's town and leading us to an easy victory. I'm leaning towards a town read on RBD since she seems so certain that her pairing has scum and that she's willing to lynch herself.

In the game I talked about earlier she offered to be in a vig circle in the night phase and ended up surviving because she took herself out.

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Link to the game?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23187

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Every time I start thinking OOTN might be town he starts digging up irrelevant stuff.

All the shots at me remind me more of MS in a recent game where he was scum and starting attacking me for using theory that I use as both town and scum as a scumtell.

yep

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If you are scum just go ahead and kill you're self, I guess.

Okay, VOTE: Om of the Nom

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Hi RBD, how are you?

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I'm tired too, all burnt out from (not) doing work today at school :P Even drawing is tiring.
I love being on a computer though, I can be on one for the majority of a day with only small breaks for food and drinks with a few toilet breaks too.
Still, that sounds like a boring job to me. I wouldn't be able to keep interested in it enough :P $10k extra is a lot though, especially in the economy nowadays.

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:D
I was laughing so hard when iaau suggested that if I flip scum then Bitmap/Mala should be the ones who stayed alive till the end.

GG all.
(also RBD whenever you replace in I get frustrated :P)

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This game finally ending is probably the reason why the world is ending too.