Micro 23: Shadow Hunters Mafia I (OVER)

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SUP BITCHES

im sick and all but I will take a gander at this game sometime today

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shuriken ignores page one to make a 1d8 random vote which is terrible.

bv310 shows up and votes Shos for ignoring all of page one but there's literally nothing that separates Shos & shuriken.

CDB is a shining beacon of glorious towniness as far as I'm concerned. Especially the post where he admits that the vote on quadz wasn't random because he'd rather start small & stupid than completely random.

boxxy = newtown, shows up and votes for Shos right off the bat and actually gives his read on the situation. I'll take it for now.

This Zoidberg character is fucking stupid and reading his posts are giving me DeityKabuto flashbacks. I don't think that means anything for his alignment. But if I had a dayvig it'd be going his direction right now, because goddammit he's obnoxious as fuck.

quadz had a good catch on shuriken being town due to daytalk, so kudos on that. I *will* say that if shuri is scum, quadz is a good choice for buddy, but I find that scenario highly unlikely.

(Possible scum IMO at end of p.5: bv310, shos, Shiidaji, Zoidberg)

I'm a bit more neutral on shos after his wallcase on boxxy. I'm unconvinced and I think some of the points he made were bad, but I think he's

trying

, and I prefer to hunt by motive over content.



And... that's it? Wow. Disappointing.

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unvote; vote: BEVERLY

seeeeeeriously. He has six posts so far. 2 are game-related housekeeping. Apart from those, he has an RVS vote, a vote on shos for ignoring the whole page

when shuriken did the exact same thing

, and then not much of anything. If that's not an iso worth voting, I don't know what is.

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bv310

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I've played with him a lot.

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I also have a secret tell on CDB that has so far proven to be right but I'm not revealing it because that would make it useless

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slight VLA till Wed due to midterms

I'll check in when I can

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mod it has been over 5 days since bv310 posted, can you prod him?

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OMG WTF QUADZ & I AGREE

DANCE PARTY

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quadz im naked bby

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so basically, my predecessor flaked out (which is why I had to replace in), and I posted a catchup post with thoughts & opinions less than 1.5 pages ago, I posted I'd be semi-gone until Wednesday, and you're voting me because I don't have much content?

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let's not lynch boxxy

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boxxy = newtown, shows up and votes for Shos right off the bat and actually gives his read on the situation. I'll take it for now.

Yeah I'm still sticking by my gut reads at the start of the game, because that firstpost is pretty hardcore town.

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Maybe you can explain to me how not producing any content and not scumhunting is pro-town.

Because I have produced content in the short amount of time I've actually been in the game, I've explained that I'm V/LA until Wednesday because I have a billion fucking projects and exams this week, and I

have

posted since then and provided content as well (with a meta-tell on CDB stating my town-read on him, and a vote on bv310 with actual reasons and a case behind it).

I mean, good god, what more are you expecting from me in a 48 hour period where I've been sick and studying for exams?

Furthermore, bv310 has posted less than me with absolutely no content, so why aren't you crawling up his ass about it?

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Your reasons for voting bv310 are the same as my reasons for voting you: Both you and your replacement haven't really produced much.

If you can honestly look at my iso & bv310's iso and say he's produced anywhere near as much content as me, you're insane. Or scum.

If RL is such a problem, why'd you replace in, then?

It's not like I planned on getting sick to the point where I was a walking corpse and it's also not like I'll have tons of exams to worry about every week and it's also not like I planned on being replaced into the game the day I sent the mod a PM offering to replace in if he needed me.

You mean like before, when I voted him for not posting?

There's a difference between voting someone for lurking and voting someone for not producing enough content during the 48 hours they've been in the game while they're V/LA.

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what

how am I the only person voting zoidberg

I

refuse

to believe scum would be this terrible and obvious, he has to be a fucking idiot, and that's a null tell imo

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Is there a possible vig in the setup? I haven't looked at the possible roles past my own role.

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When did he admit you weren't scummy.

you have quite the knack for fabricating bullshit.

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I'm going to a concert tonight and judging by the fact that I'm currently running on 3 hours of sleep in the past 36 hours, I will likely be crashing hard after I get home.

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We'll see how I feel tomorrow evening, padawan(s).

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GUYS IM DRUNK

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I DON'T SEE NOTHIN MISTA

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Wait... you're Unknown and you know that Agnes isn't in the setup?

I thought Unknown-town was a self-redirect?

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SHIT FUCK CUNT didn't read the passive abilities part

walp

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nope I just woke up and idk what I'm posting

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VOTE: sapo

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Reread harder pls

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you do realize the term "chainsaw defense" means that I'm scum and quadz is my buddy right

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you do realize the term "chainsaw defense" means that I'm scum and quadz is my buddy right

Prove to me that you're not.

You...don't understand burden of proof, do you?

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That's still not burden of proof.

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The likelihood is that any person will be town, therefore being scum is what's different, so you've gotta prove that the most likely circumstance isn't the case.

And no I'm not disagreeing about quadz outright. I'll give it some thought.

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I suppose I could see that, then. You're actually demonstrating why I'm more likely to be scum from your point of view.

Can you explain why shosTown->shurikenTown?

Also, thoughts on sapo and her predecessor?

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quadz, can you not read opening posts? I've barely skimmed the thread and even I saw:

24)

Special Rule: Semi-Open Setup:

The setup is either 7v2 or 6v2v1.

A two person scumteam is literally the only thing possible.

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quadz just fucking do that now and confirm yourself as town

this wagon was quick as hell and there's a 100% probability scum was/is on it

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Derp. I need to read the possible roles more carefully.

Zoidberg, I can agree that at least one scum was on it. It would seem suicidal for both scum to jump on a quick wagon like that. Who do you think is most likely to be scum on the quadz wagon, since you yourself are on it?

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Sup

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Well, I think saposcum is much more likely than boxxyscum.

Okay, then can we lynch sapo?

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it was the push she had at the end to lynch Shii

waaaaaaaay to aggressive

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oh what the fuck? That's shuriken, not Shiidaji.

I'm currently writing a stupid fucking paper and then I have to type up some more marketing materials so I'll get to this eventually, my head is all screwed up

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unvote

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Okay, so... words...

quadz:

Seems rather scummy with his quick jump on me over what clearly must have been a mistake. I think he immediately realized he couldn't sustain any real pressure on me over an honest mix-up, so he backed down. Not sure what to think overall about that, but it does take him out of the "most likely town" column.

sapo:

Posts seem earnest and gutsy, not sure if that's an alignment tell, but it does make me want to lynch her less than others.

CDB:

He is but a candle in the wind... semi-absent for D2, but his D1 play was really strong, and I still have ::secret tell:: that I can't reveal and I'm willing to bank on CDB-town.

Zoidberg:

Probably my top town read now. He's pushing hard on what he perceives to be exposed weak points and his whole burden of proof conversation with me was so hard-headed that I just can't see scum digging in their claws and refusing to back down at this juncture.

boxxy:

In retrospect, my "newbtown" read on boxxy is really weak and I've reread his first post a couple times now and I don't see what I saw originally. There's something incongruent about boxxy's #404, though, where he puts forward strong suspicion on quadz, only to turn around and vote shuriken instead. (quadz & boxxy are not both scum together)

shuriken:

Can someone just explain to me, very quickly, where the bulk of the heat on shuriken comes from? Because it took every ounce of restraint to read this far and I don't wanna read a bunch of newbieposts and try to decipher them.

WON'T LYNCH:

Zoidberg, CDB, sapo

WOULD LYNCH:

quadz, boxxy, ??shuriken??

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I would still feel better about this if quadz went ahead and used his doublevote. There's literally no reason to keep it around and it's just a liability afaic

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I would still feel better about this if quadz went ahead and used his doublevote. There's literally no reason to keep it around and it's just a liability afaic

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Let's see, quadz. You're on my scumlist. You claim to have a doublevote. If we lynch wrongly today, it's probably LYLO tomorrow...in which you would still have a double vote and would still be on my scumlist. Do we see how this is a problem yet?

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why dontcha just doubleote quadz

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what? you LOSE a normal vote when you use the ability?

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Quadz is scummy and he's a time bomb that had an ability that could end the game early if I'm right about him being scum.

Boom,

vote quads

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Yes that would not be a double vote

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I actually kind of agree with sapo if you're town, quadz. The cognitive dissonance is only scummy in the case of you NOT losing your vote. But I still think you're scummy and don't think you can be in LYLO.

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waht

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Fu-ka
Franklin
Gregor
George
Allie
Catherine

one o these is an hero

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Those are the only roles I could see that have the potential to stop a kill from happening.

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I think we need to nolynch today, if we play the #s game.

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Because there are six people alive.

With six alive, we basically have a 2/6 chance of lynching scum today.

If we no lynch, then scum kills someone, tomorrow it'll still be LYLO and we'll have a 2/5 chance of lynching scum. It's just better odds and is usually 100% the correct play to make.

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I am

not

claiming today.

Vote: No Lynch

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Yes it is that simple and this math has been run hundreds of times and discussed to death and unless we have confirmed town it's the best move.

I'm not claiming today so there's that.

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Keep in mind that massclaiming just gives scum more information with which to make a better NK choice, whereas if we just no lynch without claiming then they have to take a shot in the dark.

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That's a hammer on no lynch. Boom.

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Well, I'm Fu-Ka, and am vanilliazed. So it would have to have been one of those other roles that saved us from losing another townie during the night.

Also, why would a no lynch help us reck?

Wait, you got Ellen'd? When?

Did Ellen claim already? I'm confused.

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Ah ok.

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Ok well. Now we mass claim

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If a single person fucking votes before claims are done that is a scum claim.

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Actually, I'd prefer boxxy to claim first, then CDB.

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There, that's majority.

Claim, boxxy.

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You can say that but we don't believe you.

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I think you're scum. If you claim first it forces you to fake claim without any other setup knowledge. If you go l last you can strategically maneuver around what other people claim.

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Majority has decided you need to claim first. It is going to happen. We are mass claiming today. If you refuse to claim in your next post, I will vote you without hesitation.

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K.

CDB, go.

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I'm Werewolf. If I'm targeted for a kill, the attacker dies as well. This is why I refused to claim yesterday, because I thought if I could draw the NK, that I'd be able to take a scum down with me. Oh well.

So here we are. boxxy, if your claim is real, I'm assuming all these claims stand up? Who did you "rob"?

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Also, my ability is now useless, as it's LYLO. Even if we lynch scum today, it'd still be LYLO tomorrow. Yesterday was MYLO, so my ability still would've worked.

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It's possible Zoidberg jailed someone, yes. But you were able to use your ability every night, right? You weren't blocked?

I dunno who ZB would've jailed, I'll look back and see if he breadcrumbed it.

CDB: did you use your untargetable ability thing?

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This activity level is absurd.

I think we have a way to break this game. It depends on who suspects sapo of being scum, though, because if there's a consensus, we can have sapo just use her suicide bomb ability on the other lynch target.

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actually shit, no we can't... sapo suicide bombing would mean we'd go into night 1:2 and then a scumkill just ends the game

well fuck

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thank you for pointing that out and removing any chance I had at drawing the NK tonight

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Shuriken I'm town and if you're town you're giving scum the win.

unvote me

And even if you still think I'm scum we aren't done massclaiming so refusal to move your vote is actively anti town

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Any diligent scum? Sorry but I don't think anyone would be competent enough as scum here, no offense. Why not try to get a night kill if I can? What's to lose?

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And yeah sapo is town

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STOP VOTING ME. I AM NOW IN HAMMER RANGE.

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actually

nobody put down the last vote, that means, it's CDB & shu.

VOTE: ChannelDelibird

gg

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Yeah no, the fact CDB has taken this long to claim it means he's scum who is stalling for time.

I

implore

boxxy & saporovirus to take this shit slow and not rush to any decisions.

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I'm here. I'm starting to think that we should just lynch quadz - rereading to confirm or nix this.

If it's not quadz, it's CDB.

Zoidberg died immediately after making this statement. Just by the way.

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You think scum will answer when they can just stall out the game? Plus with zoidberg dead there's no way to confirm if he or cdb stopped the kill. Why would cdb claim anything other then yeah I used it n2?

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Shu & CDB have both mysteriously disappeared after laying down their votes on me. This is absurd.

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Shu & CDB have both mysteriously disappeared after laying down their votes on me. This is absurd.

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wha... my role says i kill anyone who kills me, like a PGO, not a lynch kill?

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NO. I DO NOT. I KILL ANYONE WHO ATTEMPTS TO SHOOT ME NOT LYNCH ME.

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mad that your buddy bailed on you?

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Haven't seen him on Facebook or Twitter in a while.

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Scumchat is the unofficial AIM hangout of this website.

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DGB claim your actions in your next post or die

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Well that was certainly enough time for shuriken to coach.

The unvote shuriken did earlier all but confirms a DGB/shuriken team, since if shuriken was town, he'd realize he had confirmed scum between me or CDB/DGB. Instead, his partner flaked, so he unvoted to try and get some town cred.

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huehue

knew it

too bad DGB, you got screwed by your predecessor!

gg

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It's too late to bus, shuriken.

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welp, shuriken has made his intentions clear

see you all in lylo

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I'm about 99% on it being shuiken as the last baddie, but I'll wait to see if he has any last words about boxxy.

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Still pushing something that even confused the goddamn moderator as a scum slip? Okay then

On phone now, will lay down my vote on suri when I get home. hate to say I told you so, but I did

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I'm not. His confusion with the role was the same type as mine. I have not even looked at my role PM since the game started and have been using the first post to reference roles. Tell me, what was exactly a slip about what I did?

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I'm Werewolf. If I'm targeted for a kill, the attacker dies as well. This is why I refused to claim yesterday, because I thought if I could draw the NK, that I'd be able to take a scum down with me. Oh well.

So here we are. boxxy, if your claim is real, I'm assuming all these claims stand up? Who did you "rob"?

Yet you miss the post right before where I claim the correct ability. So it's not a scum slip because I got a portion of the wording right, I just misread the lylo clause.

In order for it to be a scum slip I would've had to read my role pm and not the first post, because town or scum could read the first post incorrect. This proves I was taking my role from the OP not the PM therefore it's completely fucking null. Nice try though.

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Ahhh, no response.

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I'm currently attacking shuriken's

reasoning

for calling that scumslip. My original intentions still stand, but I'm currently arguing that the reasons shuriken is using to call it a scumslip are bullshit.

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Well that was certainly enough time for shuriken to coach.

The unvote shuriken did earlier all but confirms a DGB/shuriken team, since if shuriken was town, he'd realize he had confirmed scum between me or CDB/DGB. Instead, his partner flaked, so he unvoted to try and get some town cred.

Also, this.

If there's anything that can be a scumslip, it's this.

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bump?

C'mon, this has no discussion going.

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I never put my vote down, whoops.

Vote: shuriken

You can hammer at will, boxxy. If there's anything you'd like me to answer, I'm more than happy to oblige.

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Scum defeatism is defeatist.

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Also how would a CDB/RECK frame job work? Did one of us hack your account and post/vote for you?

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I was trying to draw the NK.

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That's why I said my original intentions still stands.

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Hooray!

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Wasn't my doing. I tried to remain active. Shuriken flaked out and boxxy was fairly lurky.