Should a vig who shoots N1 be Modkilled?

[DoomYoshi]

For playing against win condtion.
Except in extreme cases, so voting for yes doesn't mean it's automatic. It would still be up to the mod of course.

Some players say no: a player should never be killed for using their role.
So, what if a vig shoot an innocent child?

Vig is already the most anti-town town role (I consider it strictly worse than PGO). Some players say that vig should never shoot at all (I tend to agree in most cases).

[DoomYoshi]

The point is, you're proposing something that no sensible player would ever do.

Exactly. No sensible player would ever shoot N1 OR shoot an innocent child, so they are equal.

[DoomYoshi]

Well, at first I thought everyone agreed that Vig is an anti-town role. Now I see that this is not unanimous decision. Curious.

[DoomYoshi]

It feels fine. At least I can see the reasons for it.

However, due to the varying opposing positions, there are some logical flaws.

FTR, I do mean N1, not N0, but N0 is another interesting choice.

You are effectively making the argument that including a vig is a mod error, and are thusly encouraging the mod to make up for his or her error by killing the innocent player.

It's not necessarily a mod error. However, unless there is some pretty damning D1 evidence (CC in an open game), a single shmuck with reads should not be deciding the fate of another player.

I seriously do support N0 vigging.

Here it seems that many people think that are thinking a mod should allow a player to kill an innocent player instead of a mod.

How often do you get the opportunity to be a vig?

Mafia Goon is indistinguishable from Vig, so it's not that uncommon.

[DoomYoshi]

I've only ever been a vig once. I shot Night 1. I hit scum Night 1. Am I a systemic anomaly?

No. SKs hit scum N1 too.

[DoomYoshi]

This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

Maybe the OP is terrible, but the discussion generated has been great.

Thanks for posting those stats Llamafluff.

It seems that shooting N1 is the only time a vig should shoot.

[DoomYoshi]

Oh wow lol. I went to change my vote, and realized I have never voted in the first place. We need to figure out who the sole person is.

[DoomYoshi]

Vig is better than cop if and only if you can identify scum perfectly without inspections (you should be winning the game anyway then).

Also, this is the best poll in the history of the site.

Yay.

[DoomYoshi]

Neither of those things have ever happened, as far as I can remember.