Meadow of Sorrow Mafia - Game Over! Town Wins

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I believe I started with a

vote: Pariah

Vote: CPE

or something so I will do that again.

And if memory serves me right, TSQ is claiming cop and claiming Wuffles is scum, or else TSQ has something against Wuffles and wants to see him go down in flames. I was unclear as to what was happening. I almost posted that in a different game

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Unvote, Vote: TSQ

I was under the impression that you :knewstuff: from before, but since you don't, and you're hosing/strawmanning, you're worthy of my vote.

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Can someone else verify? I don't remember this, but I could have missed it.

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Wait. Did you say this:

"Not a cop investigation."

which implies not a cop investigation, or this:

he said the evidence wasn't conclusive and he wouldn't reveal it.

which implies something else entirely, i.e. you have reason to believe Wuffles is suspicious, but you're not 100% sure?

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Not so random = stuff from a past game?

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i'm wary of people who announce "oo! I like my random vote now!"

I think you had intent and created motive, not the other way around, which does not bode in your favor.

Wuffles, it was just a little bit better than a random vote. However, the second thing, and the fact that you ignored it, and focused on the other, obviously not strong thing in the post sort of makes me tick a little.

This post is suspect. You keep building these little points on Wuffles that don't look so good to me.

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TSQ random votes wuffles. When wuffles replies, he's like, "BUT THAT WASN'T MY ARGUEMENT! IT WAS OBVIOUS YOU SHOULD HAVE ANSWERED MY OTHER POINT! YOU'RE SUCH A SCUMBAG!"

To me that looks a little like TSQ is trying to start something.

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Your better than random vote is crap.

Saying scum speculation is scum is crap.

Implying that Wuffles ignored the speculation part of your post is crap.

Saying he's scum for such implication is crap.

Saying it was obvious that one part of your post was more important than the other is crap.

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O.o

you're crapping at a ratio of 3 posts per 1 crap.

The way I see it, you are trying hammer Wuffles into the ground with crap, and all that is left is him covered in crap and you with crap all over your hands (i'm very good at control what I visualize in my head).

I just think the ammount of crap produced by you is not a healthy ammount of crap. I think you are scum trying to wuffle Wuffles. Does anyone else think we've caught a scumzors crap-handed?

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you can

but sometimes scum use pressure to contort how people post and rally behind the flag of "it's just pressure, look at him squirm"

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why not unvote?

illumina's been missing from a couple of games, afak.

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Why unvote? Unvoting is silly, it's not like theres a chance of wuffles getting lynched all of a sudden, so why do I need to unvote?

good answer. IGMEOY, but

Unvote

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Irony. :-p

Comic genius...or hippocritical moron? You decide.

Actually I was making a statement.

Lynching me is never good for the Town...

Hey, we have a winner.

Vote: Eyeofmordor

I don't give a flying fuck about selfvotes, for the record. Scum can just as easily as town hide behind a self vote and be like, "i'm voting for myself! hee hee hee." Although defending this action is a little suspect in my mind with the "I always do it."

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Exactly...and I said, "comic genius" as in, "was it ironic because I was being funny?" or "hippocrital moron" as in, "am I just an idiot who doesn't read what I say?"

And then I explained why I unvoted you, I was sending a message. I.E. I no longer think you're scummy, as in I don't wanna vote you.

I was refering to myself when I said that, so maybe that's where the confusion was. Lo ciento, it wasn't clear.

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oh yeah I felt no hard feelings at all.

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You have anything else to contribute?

Stop hosing Wuffles. You've already found scum in CPE.

Unvote: EYE OF MORDDDDDDDDDDOR
Vote: CPE

But I will return some day to the EYE OF MORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDOR soon. Just not now.

I'm too lazy to quote the posts where CPE said, "there needs more posting" and "I'm not paying attention to the thread"

Olio's suspect too.

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SL is highly suspect.

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just kidding.

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I <3 so much alko right now. (still here)

although I agree with Zindaras, this game has been a great way for me and a few other people to boost thier posts counts primarely.

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And... Why the CPE hate?

R.I.P. scum

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I'm too lazy to quote the posts where CPE said, "there needs more posting" and "I'm not paying attention to the thread"

That might not be much, but that ain't nothin'. When I'm in the mood to, I'll go back and quote some stuff if you can't find it on your own.

Also, CPE's mentioned/random voted me every game we've played AFAICR. Granted, I think that's two games, but still.

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Oh yeah...I think HurriKaty needs to post more.

Hmmm. How can I get HurriKaty to post?

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POSTS?

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Why the hell should I FOS some one before I vote them? Why can't I change my mind? Why can't I focus on one thing at time? Why can't I reread the thread to find new leads?

If you're CPE's scum partner, you're not doing a very good job of keeping attention away from him.

I've started a bandwagon on CPE. I'd hate to WIFOM but I don't see why I'd do that if I were his partner. Not to say I couldn't be killing a sacrificial lamb, but if your case against me is connection to CPE,

1) what's scummy about CPE? all you've posted is connection between us.
2) why not vote him? any distancing plan will backfire if he gets lynched, and if he's scum, then we can celebrate. Even if it's purely sacrificial, you could keep your suspicion on me if you choose to and it's a dead scum anyway.

So stop defending your scum partner and vote for him, or explain why he's scummy, or explain why I'm scummy, or prove to me why CPE's play in this game is not scummy.

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It's quite a major flip-flop.

From having no opinion on someone to having an opinion on someone? Just call me John Kerry.

I can see a sacrificial lamb strategy, yes.

Ok.

What I don't like is the distancing in his first post and his continued inactivity, broken only to change his vote...usually to the guy you're voting.

I'm deciding on which one of you I find scummier. I find your attack on cpe scummy, but I don't like his inactivity and non-response to your allegations either.

You have commited a logical fallacy.

Your whole case (or most of it) appears to defend on us both being scum. If you assume we're scum, our behavoir looks like distancing. You have no case if either of us turn up protown. So the fact you are voting for neither of us while spewing this does not sit well with me. Even with no people posting, I defy you to vote one of us if your case is strong enough.

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I lost my lead and I was looking for a new one, Zindaras. I reread the thread and thought CPE's actions were scummy. Of course I attacked him out of the blue. A lot of attacks are out of the blue. No one FOS everyone before they vote them Your case is crap.

And the fallacy is that the suspicion seems mostly based on the fact we are scum, and calling us scummy for that.

Let's say TSQ gets run up in a bandwagon and I defend him. If someone attacks me for being TSQ's scumpartner without knowing TSQ's alignment, accusations against me are crap.

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You cannot suddenly go from neutral to scummy over the course of a few posts, unless there are some major scumtells in those posts (which there weren't).

Wrong. First of all, that's partially opinion. Second of all, why the the hell can't you go back and realize that someone's been doing something scummy that you didn't notice the first time? I was very focused on Shea and a little on Eye of Mordor, and then I looked back and saw CPE doing some crazy shit. So I posted that.

I'm too lazy to quote the posts where CPE said, "there needs more posting" and "I'm not paying attention to the thread"

If I'm too lazy to read the thread, am I just bullshiting what posts I "quoted?" They are there.

Your case on me is ridiculous.

HOW IS SOMEONE VOTING SOMEONE ELSE SCUMMY?

"Because they're scum together."

I applaud your superior logic. Either die scumbag or use your head, townbag.

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Scumchat's an entirely different ballgame.

A trigger happy vig in scumchat will kill the game.

However, since there are more people, there's a buffer between "game over" and "screwing everyone over." Or sometimes getting lucky.

In any case, CPE is still alive and hasn't said anything about his abysmal participation so far.

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Yeah, but still, a trigger happy vig deciding to kill someone the first night in ANY scum is probably a REALLY bad idea.

Deliciously true.

I'm more inclined to think CPE should die today. I'm not ready to unvote, but I will concede the point that you don't have much to attack, so that's all you could have done. Still, some points irk me, like "I do not want to die tonight" and "I acted scummy." sounds appealicious.

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...you mean paladin?

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...you mean paladin?

I assume you mean Paladin?

I've consumed that now.

Unvote

. Shea moves back to a neutral spot in my alignmentometer (from a town spot).

In this game, the term "Satanic" will be defined as a fancy way of saying "Mafia Band Worshipping Or Possibly From Hell Itself." There was some minor confusion before and I neglected to clear that up before.

Vote: Zindaras

the mod has been dropping hints, not limited to the one quoted above, to suggest that we have a satanic mafia and a regular mafia. Also, our exchange earlier was a little wierd.

Hmmm. Something's still bugging me about CPE's claim...

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Well, that claim is believable.

Unvote

. It also makes me think (again) that there are two Mafias running around.

cuz you said the above. and I'm like, "isn't it obvious? are you trying to pull something?" and then I'm like, "hey, Zindie was the one who was like, "you're scum because CPE's scum, so I'll vote you over CPE."

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Vote: eyeofmordor

might as well be going somewhere.

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I vote for you. Doesn't pan out.
I vote for CPE. Doesn't pan out.

There's not a whole lot of not panning out left for this town.

on a more serious note, we have a deadline in a week. Although i don't particularly find the self vote itself to be scummy, I'm willing to see where this one takes us. If I find something better between now and sunday, I'll let you know. But I be in college along with practically everyone else...finals.

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I'm sorry...I thought playing on Mafiascum for a long time might have given me some insight as to how to play as scum a lot more subtly than this. Oh shit, I just WIFOMed myself. God, I really do suck. I guess that's what you're banking on, right? Me sucking at playing the game? Well, I just proved your point.

I vote-hop more than IHOP. A stagnant vote isn't going to catch scum.

We do need a lynch. Or a claim. Or some accountability. OR SOME ACTIVITY.

If I were a vig I'd vig you Zindaras, cuz you look like scum to me, but no one else is biting. So there's little point for me to keep my vote on you.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to solve juvenile delinquency.

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If that's the way the cookie crumbles, I'll make my bed with crumbs all over it.

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Lynching me is never good for the Town...

Hey, we have a winner.

Vote: Eyeofmordor

I don't give a flying fuck about selfvotes, for the record. Scum can just as easily as town hide behind a self vote and be like, "i'm voting for myself! hee hee hee." Although defending this action is a little suspect in my mind with the "I always do it."

I was not pulling a vote out of my ass for those paying attention. I seem to have voted for TEOM before. Hmmm. What does that suggest?

But I will return some day to the EYE OF MORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDOR soon. Just not now.

Dude! I am sooooo coming out of left field with my TEOM vote.

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I believe I started with a

vote: Pariah

Vote: CPE

or something so I will do that again.

And if memory serves me right, TSQ is claiming cop and claiming Wuffles is scum, or else TSQ has something against Wuffles and wants to see him go down in flames. I was unclear as to what was happening. I almost posted that in a different game

that would have been funnier if you put it in a random game

oh the irony

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WAGON WAGON WAGON

Vote: Zindaras

May I suggest we take a bite off the creampuffeater, and vote for him?

One shouldn't be talking about biting pastries if they are pastries themselves.

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Thesp has 2 votes!

Kleb: did you read the part where CPE claimed cop?

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Vote: Hurrikaty

I can see that.

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i am wary of the cop claim as well.

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Unvote

that's right there's two scum groups.

While we've probably fucked ourselves, I wouldn't be surprised if Katy's telling the truth. Assuming they investigate different groups, this can be to our advantage.

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Unvote

I think it's best if ya'll follow my example. *polishes apples*

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it wouldn't surprise me if TSQ turned up scum but I'm not satisfied enough to vote him.

Vote: Zindaras

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if everyone claims cop, they won't know which cop to kill

i can believe olio as scum.

unvote, vote: Olio

i think thatz 7