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In post 19, Shadoweh wrote:##Vote Deasvail
I've never seen The Wire because it's not an internet show, but I think I read about it once..
Aren't all shows on the internet these days? I watched all 5 seasons from DL's.
-Yes we are against the cops.
-And there's a crap ton of black people. More black than white. Also the abbreviated N-words with the letter 'q' I'm sure could offend people... I also don't care for the RP slang whatsoever."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 35, ChannelDelibird wrote:In post 33, DeasVail wrote:In post 29, ChannelDelibird wrote:Petapan's vote drew my attention to absta's #8, which is more likely to be a scum post than a detached vote for nobody in particular.
Really?
Course it is. It can feel braver as scum to make a confrontation (for want of an apt but less serious word) like that of a page-one statement. I certainly felt that way as scum once or twice; consciously or otherwise.
I'm not sure I follow... you think scum seek confrontation?
In post 61, absta101 wrote:I'm not used to this speed. My activity/effort should get better after this friday which is my last exam. Not sure if I've already mentioned that.
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@SAD, RP'rs are annoying. Please stop.
@CBD I think I get what you're suggesting, or trying to explain...from my experience scum can tend to overthink how to "properly" interject themselves into a game. I often find over-the-top 'cutesy' attitudes to come from scum. Is this the case here.... I don't know."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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My point against the RP, is I don't want to have to attempt to decipher what someone is saying. Moreover I don't want scum hiding behind some rp nonsense and backtracks or makes up meaning of intent.
I get wanting to be cute and have fun.... but there's no point to it."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 100, Shadoweh wrote:outright having to tell people he wasn't going to be super active in a game.
Lost me on this one...What's it mean?
In post 100, Shadoweh wrote:Yes because obviously Benmage is the easiest person to attack here, well known for getting frivolously quicklynched on the first day.
Anyways, whether attacking me is easy or not, your gripe with me disliking RP is shit.
It was what page 4, what awesomeness am I suppose to have done by now?
-Don't like the BoP attack already, seen scum tunnel on good players (because no scum would do that) Shit I've tunneled on the best available player as scum before with quite success."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I'll echo the useless-ness in mass-name-claiming.
Moreover I wouldn't be surprised at all if either Avon or Stringer were scum safeclaims. Example would be Cersei as a previous safeclaim in one of his Song of Fire n Ice games."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 125, TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:dayne is town. his roleplay is the terrible-est, fakest reason to suspect someone ever. its not even hard to understand. its low hanging fruit for scum, something easy and mindless to attack. looking at you here, benmage and safety dance. jason is probably town though, and needs to get a better vote.
I don't think I ever actually say I suspected him?
I don't even think I do, I haven't yet taken a step back to sort reads... still early."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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unvote vote Plessie
@absta's 5 pages in 24 hours is pretty standard, if not actually a little slow for the start of a 19p game. I wouldn't have been surprised to see 10.
--It seems like a pre-excuse, when the game hasn't moved quickly. Hell there's been comments on how slow it's actually moving."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 145, TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:In post 142, Shadoweh wrote:I don't know what BoP means. And yes, I wouldn't be surprised if you personally had tunneled as scum on the best available player, because you usually have an attitude and overbrimming confidence. How terrible of me to have expected you to be trying great things instead of letting you sleep in like posting is ruining your beauty sleep. Instead of asking me what poor little Benmage could possibly do, just do something awesome or get on the rope.
Burden of Proficiency. You're attacking him because "OMG Benmage hasn't corralled the scum already." It's a logical fallacy and using it as the basis to say someone is scum is quite scummy.
Yeah this^.
In post 142, Shadoweh wrote:The gist of what I said is still the same though. I said he was doing nothing but rp complaining.All I've done in that post is explained it better.
Isn't that all this game is....Statements, back n forths, restatements....discussion...etcetc
In post 142, Shadoweh wrote:Actually addressing continued Benmaging:
I've never seen scum successfully hide behind Roleplaying. I've rarely seen scum be motivated enough to try in the first place. Making up reads + trying to make them sound in character = :effort: More people should be forced to keep up stupid rp gimmicks just to see if they can keep it up.
The RP-ing alone isn't scummy. But it is annoying, and I can see scum hiding their motives behind. Now SAD's is fairly discernible, but still frustrating. I may also be a little sensitive to these things after cow's *spread arms wide*
Which btw camn, doesn't look like a PR, as pretty sure he broke 'character' in his red text."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 150, TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:In post 142, Shadoweh wrote:Commenting that SAD and Cerulean are townie is a waste of time here, more talk about people that can actually be scum.
hang on, what? when is it ever a waste of time to comment on townreads?
Actually that read fairly townish from Shadow.... Cerul does ready pretty obvious town, and I wager my best town read thus far (although that's just from my shitty reading at work).
The point Shadow was making is we don't need everyone putting in the facade of 'reading' people by naming Cerulean town."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 142, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 120, Benmage wrote:In post 100, Shadoweh wrote:outright having to tell people he wasn't going to be super active in a game.
Lost me on this one...What's it mean?
Weather Mafia II. Since it's impossible to direct link I'll just quote it.
"FYI This game with feature an atypical Benmage. I'm busier with life. I'm in less mafia. I'm a bit burnt out, but not spent yet. (Plus this one looked fun). So I don't want to hear any shit come d3/d4 zomg Benmage isn't playing like Benmage of old. (Get it out now, or get over it.) Activity will likely be in spurts, and much less dense."
That's what I thought you meant, but I don't really see how it is relevant... In that game I feared RL getting in the way. It ended up being a standard game for me, so that comment wasn't ever needed or valid. But I did want to also set a town precedent should the need for my gameplay to be significantly different arise again. I don't forsee my involvement in this game to be of too much concern as I am only in one other game, and don't plan on joining any others.
In post 142, Shadoweh wrote:How terrible of me to have expected you to be trying great things instead of letting you sleep in like posting is ruining your beauty sleep. Instead of asking me what poor little Benmage could possibly do
It just comical considering what little has been done this game. Also I've been attacked by both scum and town, so consider it null but a recurring annoying theme about me starting games slow. The dragon will awaken as it always does. Period."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 155, TheGreatestAmericanHero wrote:In post 154, ChannelDelibird wrote:People stating opinions is a good thing. It ties them to those opinions for later.
qft
I'm not trying to stifle reads... And if you want to mention cerul as a town read go nuts... But time could be better spent analyzing the null reads. Thats my point at least.
Cerul has read town, like I said before. Does that mean ignore him, no."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 149, Nostredeus wrote:b) someone asks for RP to be stopped and has frankly legit reasons for asking only to be voted for, I'm not sure how that's supposed to be a town play, although again I'm happy to hear why it is, c) it's the first post of page 5 and part of the response is "Benmage needs moar useful content", the logical extension is that anyone with less useful content/more misleading content should be voted ahead of Benmage; that's not what Shadoweh is doing. Basically I didn't buy post 100 at all, and I don't have any idea why it's supposedly a response to Cerulean's stuff.
^Concur.
In post 162, ChannelDelibird wrote:Nost struck me as pretty genuine in that exchange. Come vote SafetyDance instead, McStab.
^Agreed, his explanation in post 149/post 161 read genuine.
In post 164, McStab wrote:But you managed to get swayed by one small, two or three sentence post that doesn't even address that issue solely?
I think a lot of people quickly shot down the mass name claim idea.
In post 176, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:That flat shawty with them big eyes probably ain't no cop.
How the hell do you have a town read on BabySpice?
-Explanation please.
In post 186, DeasVail wrote:PEdit: I'll expand on townreads if people feel that it would help with their read on the player in question. Or even if someone just really feels that my explanation for a townread would be the key to determining my alignment. I realise that I haven't said who I townread yet though.
Yeah I'll bite. Go nuts.
In post 189, petapan wrote:how is him prematurely jumping to conclusions reflective of his alignment rather than simply being bad play
Is this about Mcstab, or Nost?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 195, DeasVail wrote:
Also, not particularly fond of much that's been brought up yet, although I might be later. I don't know.
In post 200, DeasVail wrote:I admit that I feel I'm kind of forcing it here, but when I actually have a proper scumread I'll get back to you.
In post 197, The Mini-Librarian wrote:3rd party vibes from Nost's 103 (His suggestion for massclaim came of a bit desperate. Sounds like a lyncher or a SK that needs to kill specific people.
I usually think, wtf 3rd party. But might be that Omar has a hit list.
In post 197, The Mini-Librarian wrote:@Benmage: Reason for voting Plessie?
Of course. I'll share eventually
In post 210, Shadoweh wrote:Nost's answer to the question about Tazaro is full of derp. Also I think he took me seriously when I said Benmage is easy to quicklynch? He sounds legit to me. Nost, who do you think had 'more misleading' content then Benmage at the point where I voted him?
Re: Burden of Proficiency: I wasn't asking for Benmage to vig one of the scum in the middle of Day 1 again. I was pointing out i didn't think he was being as involved as he usually is. More like the Burden of Be Yourself. He feels like he's trawling right now (not to be mistaken with trolling).
-What does misleading content mean? And trawling? I haven't sunken my teeth in yet, due to lack of total content + a lot of my posting has been at work where my concentration gets interrupted... by well... work
*Flex* viggin Reck felt AMAZING, but noones dropping such easy scumtells."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 203, petapan wrote:In post 197, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Not liking peta (not engaged in the game, coasting through)
i just have no idea what i'm doing
Can you link to a previous game where you felt that the game was above you? You have over 2300 posts on the site, and frankly I don't believe you."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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@Vifam I see your name keep popping up down there... Can you link a game for you as scum, and one as town please."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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A town game, too please. If your scum game was tryhard, wouldn't that be the opposite of this and therefore illustrating you as town?
It'll be a lot easier for you to just link than for me to have to cipher."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 221, Vifam wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=7325
That's my most recent town but it's gonna take a while finding the most recent scum
That was actually more helpful for me than you probably realize. (My god tho... Please don't spam post in this game... try and string some thoughts together)
post 4022 alleviates other reasoning:
"Yeah, I was wondering about that, but honestly he kind of seems like he wouldn't care about it no matter what the alligment"
post 6737 (alsonoteforme) "I'm really bored you guys, like DANGEROUSLY bored of this game now"
-And your scum is quite different. I'd check the facts, but I'm satisfied enough by the town link... Uhmm, I'll explain my request of this in due time."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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This post is pleasantly suprising: post 226
I'm interpreting this: post 227 as Baby Spice being coming off as genuine + gut.... Someone correct me if I'm wrong here.
In post 228, sottyrulez wrote:I find post 125 pretty scummy. Just the support of both of the underwhelming Nostredeus and Shadow wagons is all kinds of blegh.
That's an interesting point (gonna iso TGAH, thought I was reading him town)
In post 244, Cerulean wrote:I think your push on nost is reaching because he reads fairly townish in his response, and reallywhat would your opinion of him been if he had clung to the not wise thing of mass name claiming?
Good question.
In post 251, DeasVail wrote:Benmage, why did you give away that you don't like early cutesy behaviour at the time when you'd most expect it from scum?
Guess I wasn't thinking there, and just trying to engage in convo's.
In post 253, camn wrote:Im sure they would post a QT to 'prove' it, if that werent against the rules (and famously faked in the past)
Where was this, I've wanted to do that forever, but sadly I don't Hydra. There was a game where all the Hydra did was post partner conversations... they were universally accepted as town. I was scum (think I had to NK them)
In post 254, Plessiezarus wrote:Not quite as bad as the people who are voting SAD because of his RP, but close
Outside of SafetyDance, who else voted SAD for RP?
In post 254, Plessiezarus wrote:Don't think much of the wagon on Nostrodeus. The name-claim suggestion sounds more like a sign of inexperience (either in Farday-modded games in particular or Large Theme games in general), and the rest of his posts seem consistent with this.
Ditto this.
In post 258, Cerulean wrote:I have a pretty easy time reading Arthurbut I'm struggling this game I think largely due to his RP'ing.
inb4itoldyouso
In post 265, Plessiezarus wrote:
In post 258, Cerulean wrote:I don't see how SafetyDance's vote on Arthur in #113 is overexplained at all, in fact my problem with it is the exact opposite - it feels extremely lazy and undercooked.
Overexplained in the sense that, once he said he was sheeping Benmage and voting because of the "annoying" RP, the comment about SAD's avatar seem redundant? Like, why say that at all unless you're worried your vote might be seen as too unoriginal? ("Overexplained" doesn't mean "not lazy".)
Don't really care that he didn't comment on the "major topics of discussion", since ... yeah, they were boring.
I think taking both views makes it pretty bad for Safety.
-You have him ignoring most discussion.
-You have a shit vote, with shittier explanations (this clearly isn't an rvs vote... but the reason is piss poor)
---As I said before, scum sometimes have difficulty genuinely interjecting themselves into a game.
In post 267, McStab wrote:Also for the sake of posterity in case my tinfoil hat theory starts looking plausible a Benmage-CDB-Nost scumteam works really well
I'm baffled at naming a 3 man scum team this early.
Plessie:
At first I thought the snide remark to Tammy in iso 1, was a form of buddying. I’ve had scum try and be cute to me in their first post.... The fact that he admits being snide in post 135 threw me a little bit..Though is overall lack of contribution led to my early suspicion, and wasn’t really alleviated until his recent posting which looks a lot better with actual apparent review.
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@Petapan:In post 213, Benmage wrote:In post 203, petapan wrote:In post 197, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Not liking peta (not engaged in the game, coasting through)
i just have no idea what i'm doing
Can you link to a previous game where you felt that the game was above you? You have over 2300 posts on the site, and frankly I don't believe you.
**I want to take a look at the Shadow wagon, how it sprung up, the Nost hate and review Jason... But I have a meeting in about 30 mins.
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FTFY"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 285, absta101 wrote:In post 206, jasonT1981 wrote:In post 204, petapan wrote:vifam delivering one liners isn't relevant to his alignment that's just how he posts also he's p clearly posting content so ur dum imho
Calling someone dumb only works if you can actually use correct grammar, punctuation and spelling and not with the result that you make yourself look dumb in the process.
This is a town reaction to an insult. Not that strong but it's good enough to make jason leaning town.
The insult wouldn't really apply to scum-Jason (assuming Vifam isn't scum) so he could've just ignored it. Plus, this looks quite genuine.
He's only slight town because faking the reaction as scum isn't hard, I've done it before.
This is an odd declaration. Reads incredibly subjective. Reads more as something Jason would as Jason the person regardless of alignment.
-Why out of everything you've missed did you pick this thing out to note?
In post 288, absta101 wrote:In post 216, Vifam wrote:That was back when I gave a fuck and was on tryhard mode
Vifam is scum for using the word tryhard.
Abstas your earlier post was around 150.... You pull a few posts around the 200-220’s.... What or where are you in your catchup?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 286, Plessiezarus wrote:Pless wanted me to discuss why I didn't like Shadoweh's reaction to her wagon ages ago; it was mostly because I read her reaction to the votes piling up onto her in #97as fake. The whole combination with the over the top language and the "your accusation is unfair, give me something to counter-argument with you" tone, basically.
I could see this. On another read of it, looks overly aggressive.
Let’s look at the Shadow wagon and how it spurred
In post 119, The Baltimore Sun wrote:Shadoweh (5) - camn, McStab, Cerulean, The Mini-Librarian, Nostredeus
Camn’s vote is RVS, Cerulan is town.
McStab, Mini-Lib/Nost
Mcstab-No explanation: post 93
Mini-Lib Echos Ceruls dislike of Shadowpost 95
Nost, piggys cerul post 103
Maybe this Shadow wagon won’t yield much =/
Lets look at Shadow:
post 19 Unfamiliar with the source material... hrmmm
Dung slung my way. Odd for the early reads, yes... But bothering to try and force reads so early? Doubtful... post 79, Shadoweh"
In post 86, Shadoweh wrote:Arthur what do you think of Benny's idea that absta made a scummy post?
Did you get anything from this answer:
post 88 (still hate having to decipher SADs meaning)
*We have shadows aggressive response to Ceruls vote in post 97.
-He just kind’ve a dick in his next few posts.
--Is it carefree town, or overthetop scum....
In post 104, Shadoweh wrote:Mass Name Claim is probably a bad idea just because Faraday likes flavor and people can guess possible roles if they know the flavor enough.Bbesides, the minute anyone starts throwing around claiming of any sort the candy trail towards actual claiming looks more tempting to people.
PS: 'the right post is one that generates chat' *vote the person talking the most* tumut
I think that an odd jump.
-And again, dick comment.
Post 142 And post 210 Help me garner a better townShadow read. The vote on Mini-Lib aint great, but neither are many votes right now.... With this, I can see Shadows earlier agitation being from town.
So I’ll conclude with a slight town read.
I wanna take a closer look at Jay, saw comments that definitely peaked interest. Maybe I'll go back to Nost/Mini-Lib if I have the time."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Jay:
There’s nothing odd about Jays intro till we hit this:post 47 I think tammy brought it up, and on a second look it feels forced. “ffs”....Over that?
His posting up to his “long post” aint much....
Long Post: post 122
This post is meh... Everything talked about SAD is fluff/beating the dead horse about his Post Restriction, so I don’t know why he brings it up in about 3 different quotes...
-His comments not revolving SAD seem pretty good.
-His end reason attacks... He calls them weak himself, so...meh
In post 122, jasonT1981 wrote:
Right now I see 3 possible scum in SAD which you already know as to why. SafetyDance due to his wagon jump on SAD (possible bussing maybe) with a weak as hell reason and Vifam who seems to be posting a lot. but 99% are one liners fluff with little to 0 input on current events in game.
Again this post 206 doesn't really look indicative of alignment.
His total content blows. Too much dwelling on SAD’s PR, and then fails to produce further content, even though that’s his complaint against Vifam. This wagon might’ve been worth pursuing... unfortuntaly:
In post 301, jasonT1981 wrote:Suffering intermittent power outages atm so not going to be on for a bit, weather is blowing a storm here.
No point in getting worked up trying to force content when it can’t be.....
Games moving quickly, and I don’t wanna flood it with density.
So here’s what I got:
Town:
Cerulean (Tammy/Empire hydra)
Benmage
Slight town:
Plessiezarus (Plessiez/Zar hydra)
Shadoweh
Ser Arthur Dayne
Deasvail
camn
McStab
sottyrulez (Sotty7/Zachrulez hydra)
The Mini-Librarian
Neutraul:
19) Baby Spice
15) Vifam
18) ChannelDelibird
17) Nostredeus
Slight scum:
absta101
Safetydance
JasonT1981
TheGreatestAmericanHero (Konowa/roflcopter hydra)
Scum:
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Petapan case:
-Not pursuing anything. Its coasting just enough while trying to remain in the backdrop.
-Votes have sucked
-*****He says the game is over his head. I call him out for it, he says he wasKIDDING... BULLSHIT... He wanted to coast more. Not only have I seen scum who can't interject themselves into games properly use excuses like the game being over their head.... but I've seen scum COACH their partners. (Looking at you faraday) Faraday showed me a game where he told his partners to make very similar comments to the one petapan did. I aint buying.
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In post 284, petapan wrote:In post 213, Benmage wrote:In post 203, petapan wrote:In post 197, The Mini-Librarian wrote:Not liking peta (not engaged in the game, coasting through)
i just have no idea what i'm doing
Can you link to a previous game where you felt that the game was above you? You have over 2300 posts on the site, and frankly I don't believe you.
i was kidding when i said that, just lack confidence in any read i have right now but it's early day 1
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(I thought there was some potential connection between Vifam and Petapan... I'm blanking on what my thought process was without looking at their isos... feel its irrelevant after I prodded Vifam anyways)"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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You think all that went down in 6 minutes?
That I voted you....
Then realized I didn't have a reason...
Than fabricated the one, with the exchanges we had.... all in 6 minutes??
Flail more please. And way to ignore Mini-Libs questions, again."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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You think all that went down in 6 minutes?
That I voted you....
Then realized I didn't have a reason...
Than fabricated the one, with the exchanges we had.... all in 6 minutes??
Flail more please. And way to ignore Mini-Libs questions, again."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 346, petapan wrote:benmage: i was talking to safetydance. the guy right above me. i'm not even sure what question you're referring to
Ah nvm the question was really a comment... doesn't negate you being scum."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Your scum, because your posting is redundant/fluffy + bizzare... Like your comment to Nost... wtf's the point? Just looks like your attempting to throw out questions. Shit you aint even caught up yet, but you want to inquire on that minor thing?
Woes me on the votes.
If your town, you can't handle lylo anyways."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 369, Baby Spice wrote:Really not appreciating Tammy wall quoting.
YEAH f**K tammy"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 371, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:It's not a wagon if it's non-existent?
Plenty of room for a struggling crack head."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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W/e... we got them WMD's on the peta-wagon!! (wmd's are a show reference, everyone who hasnt watched the show go diaf)"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 380, Vifam wrote:I'm sorry I hate to be that guy but this game is just really boring for me and I don't wanna hold anything back with my lack of interest.
Replace me out pls
Are you fucking kidding me... it's 16 pages into D1 of a Faraday game, an you're replacing out cause you are fucking bored.... Expect your ass blacklisted, and all future mods should do the same."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 409, Plessiezarus wrote:Benmage -- I don't really agree with Zar's weak town-read on petapan, but I can't say I agree with your case either. He's definitely coasting and using jokes to deflect suspicion or avoid answering questions, but that seems par for the course from him (based on Abarat, for instance). I find most of your other scum-reads more suspicious than him (except SafetyDance, who I think is more likely town).
My top two are him and Jay... abstas irks me, but it might just be playstyle + inexperience. He said he's never been in a lg theme, and I never read inexperience well. I need to look at Sdance closer.... some of his rationale I just wasn't following, nor bothering too.
-Have you ever seen someone say the games over their head, and then call it a joke (DID ANYONE read that as a joke???).... like wtf, this scum has his pants down, and I can't believe people are dismissing his disconnection to the game."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 416, McStab wrote:h8ers gunna h8
Not helping your case chief."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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OOOPh, Under the weather guys... good thing I didn't go skiing. Trying to do some reading, but concentration is rough.
In post 436, absta101 wrote:Post #351 by SAD makes some sense. I was town-reading Jason for his gambit but this changed my mind.
That difficult to read paragraph that only repeats whats already been stated about it...
In post 445, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:<--- Hey look I'm in rehab.
In post 409, Plessiezarus wrote:Don't understand this comment. Please explain. Are you disagreeing with TML's claim that absta looks worse than SafetyDance, or are you suggesting there's no hope of SafetyDance ever "contributing something good"?
The latter.
So what's your thought on SDance?
In post 442, Cerulean wrote:Your wall posts comment on really trivial things and lack real content, so it looks like you're trying to comment n a bunch of stuff to look busy and engaged.
^Remind me to iso Jay again...can't think right now.
In post 452, sottyrulez wrote: I like his push on Peta and might be down for a vote there if it wasn't for Post 378 which is an excellent point about Safety.
Maybe I got the blinders up, but nothing looks special about Peta's obvious comments regarding Sdance."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 502, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 499, Benmage wrote:That difficult to read paragraph that only repeats whats already been stated about it...
You didn't read it did you?
Probably 4-5 times."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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gdit I was reading and need to step out:
Pretty good first two post: post 456
In post 461, Nostredeus wrote:I'm going to go ahead and post a little bit of stuff but honestly it looks like most players would prefer me not to wall post.
I'd actually prefer it if you would specifically post as much as possible. Having quite the hard time putting a solid read on you.
In post 463, camn wrote:Why? Because it is in the scum's best interest to fill the thread with nonsense that does nothing to expose ANYONE's alignment.
True.... but as a game, we are all guilty of posting cute nongamerelated things from time to time. I don't like the insinuation that Cerulean checking in with his hydra is scummy. Not that guy. Some other hydra, sure. Him.... well now you're the filler.
In post 467, camn wrote:And now, I apologize to everyone, I have wasted my 30 minutes worth of free mafia time this weekend talking about NOTHING.
I will not return to this topic, for the sake of the game. And please.. dont let me break my rule again: dont argue with scum.
Man I think I still suck at reading camn, but this strikes genuine."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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I like this post from SafetyDance
In post 468, SafetyDance wrote:I come back and find I have to defend myself against a vote and post I made eight hours into the game. Sorry if I'm a little distracted?
^I've been accused so many times as just defending myself, being defensive and all that nonsense... WTF is one suppose todo when they're called scum...It's irritating as fuck.
In post 472, McStab wrote:Someone (I think Benmage) asked me about Peta. I think Peta's town, but I had hesitated to put him into any category prior to the last few pages; I think peta's one of the harder players for me to read.His recent posting has led me to think he's town.
Which post was this?
post 473 these day 1 scum team associations are just bad....
In post 480, Shadoweh wrote:
(this is highly hypocritical right now seeing as irl is keeping me from posting alot but I'm trying to get this out there)
I need some Zach loving too... I can't put a finger on sotty. I also find the hypocrisy quite towntelling.
I don't think Zach's the guys to lie about activity: post 490
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:I didn't think his vote for SAD originally was that big a deal, but after failing to achieve the intended goal (I think?) of getting SAD to stop roleplaying, and getting negative attention for his vote, he doesn't unvote for the longest time. The pressure vote has become useless, everyone's telling you to stop. Why not just move on if he doesn't actually want to lynch him?Because he's scum that doesn't want to be seen as backtracking under pressure?Possibly.
Ooooph narrowminded as fuuuuk
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:As I'm typing this though, I'm getting the niggling feeling that I'm actually attacking a town player
What type of fence ya workin on?
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:~~
American Hero: Why do you think sotty would defend their buddy Jason so hard?
BT: Why hasn't sotty's confidence in Jason town affected your read of him?
You following up on these end questions, ascertaining anything, or just trying to look busy...
In post 488, BT wrote:
In post 483, DeasVail wrote:
BT: Why hasn't sotty's confidence in Jason town affected your read of him?
Because he's mostly alone on that front. If there was a strongly-reading town player telling me that, or a consensus, then yeah, sure. Nothing like that is happening (the opposite, in fact) and I even said I don't like the rest of his reads so that certainly doesn't help.
Do you think SOtty is more likely White Knighting or defending a scum buddy? It seems odd that scum would go out of their way to call as you said a census read, town.
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@petapan
Could you bullet the reasoning behind your two top 2 scum reads (Sdance, jason? if thats still them)
-And bullet top 2 town reads with a reason or two please."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 517, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:In post 511, Benmage wrote:Your read on sdance SAD?
Prob null with a sprinkle of VI?
My jury is out, and I felt VI as well... but his recent posting suggests otherwise. (definitely someone to iso again)
post 518
^abstas is terrible at this.
In post 531, McStab wrote:Alright time to plow through the shit arguments out there. Can someone, perhaps BT (I find his posts to be the most eloquent of my detractors) please outline, in bullet point form, the points against me?
*headdesK*
The first half is HOORAH! The second is...meow, you do it plssssss. wtf. Put me down as one of those about to vote you.
SAD, I can dig top 3."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 543, SafetyDance wrote:Weak as Budwieser reads that do nothing to help with anything. List reads (or whatever you call them) are not proper reads or effective scumhunting.
So it's not something you're going to see me throw out there.
I disagree here, rough reads list like that can give basic standpoints, which is helpful imo. Plus if you see something that doesn't make sense, like Benmage listed under scum, you can question that person further for why they have that read.
In post 547, Cerulean wrote:In post 521, jasonT1981 wrote:
Nearly 100% McStab would flip town after reading him in ISO like I said in one of my recent posts. My vote may well go on Safety Dance as it stands.
More when I get back on.
Okay, why and why? On the off chance you happen to be town,how the hell is mcstab nearly 100% town, and why are you ready to jump on the easy wagon? Show me your thought process.
^This.
In post 548, DeasVail wrote:Benmage, what's your explanation for SD not unvoting? I am not making any assumptions, just considering possibilities.
No, but you only propose negative possibilities. Confirmation Bias much? He answers you here:
In post 543, SafetyDance wrote:Stubborness? Busy defending myself? I don't think you're quite grasping the fact I was only defending an early post, nor time as a factor.
But plenty of times I'll leave an early vote floating and outdated if I simply don't have a strong scumsuspect, and or am behind in the game.
In post 552, Nostredeus wrote:SD's #543 and #544; the latter of which is a pretty good point imo
What makes #544 good?
In post 552, Nostredeus wrote:McStab's #531 is terrible and I'm pretty happy with my vote there, this OMGUS chat also doesn't track imo.
I concur here, the FoS the world is pathetic.
UNVOTE: VOTE: MCSTAB My god take a gander at his iso:
-First post I didn't even realize the scumminess, check out the 'cutesy' behavior I spoke previously about:Post 17
Stash house nonsense?? post 53
-Votes Nost, for his backing off the nameclaim. (Why couldn't Shadoweh's statement that Faraday gives varying safeclaims be sufficient enough to have swayed Nost??)
-- Connects CBD to Nost because CBD defends him. post 165
In post 267, McStab wrote:@Everyone: I think alot of people are thinking that what Benmage said is what happened (that a bunch of people shot down the name idea, that's why he backed off). Go back and check the posts. He suggests it, ONE small post comes up (that really doesn't have alot of merit), written by the person he was voting for as scum (which would normally bring into question the motives of the person saying it) and he backs off.
Okay yes, Nost rescinds his stance after Shadoweh's one point. As said before, I don't see why that can't be the case. And then yes, several of us echo similar Faraday points. But because I had a misnomer in recalling when Nost exactly rescinded his point, I'm suddenly lumped into the scum team.
In post 267, McStab wrote:Also for the sake of posterity in case my tinfoil hat theory starts looking plausible aBenmage-CDB-Nost scumteamworks really well; I don't wanna get into setup spec too much so it's possible there's more scum/different factions/SK.
NEWSFLASH, whose going to be morelikely to check when exactly Nost took back his position? Scum or town?Answer this please**.
This "cute" behavior, from a little pressure reads forced: post 416 / post 422
This is the creme de la creme post 531 I said previously, he opens aggressive... for what? Because he instantly asks BT todo his legwork, scummy scummy scummy.
-The FoS at the end for those attacking him, as I said before is ridiculous.
If you read his iso, it's altogether rather flat. I get a strong early scum attempt at trying to be active enough to avoid being calling a lurker, but attempting to stay off radar.
ANYWAYS, down for petapan or Mcstab. Not really Jay anymore. Don't think SDance either tho I do (zomg) still need to iso there. But I'd rather take my next energy attempt to look at DV.
***** I think we're getting to that point where we need to start narrowing these wagons down. ( I know it'll take another 8+pages todo so )
-- A lot of people have voiced acceptance with a Mcstab wagon.
*** Whose currently against a Mcstab lynch?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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In post 571, Ser Arthur Dayne wrote:And I find their lack of engagement/interaction and seemingly interest to be appalling. Both of them look like they're forcing themselves to post, esp from Zar who looks like he's being dragged to come and post. I actually find Pless' annoyance at Zar not really posting or conversing with him privately rather genuine - but I can very clearly see it as Pless being annoyed at Zar in a scum slot.
My experience of Zar isn't great, is he usually a more active poster?
In post 572, petapan wrote:if i had townreads i was confident in, i would state them. i don't. i don't believe anyone here is someone i can easily read as town.
What was your read on McStab, and has it changed since his replacement request?
In post 573, Cerulean wrote:he hates being unrolled
^What does this mean?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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@Plessie... its a little early to be getting apathetic towards the game... post 575 ... I haven't had an issue with your contribution. It is D1, but moreover your posts at least tend to have some depth to them; and if we're going to complain about content you're definitely not the prime offender. I'm surprised you didn't go with that note, but rather the apathy path...."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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