Open 475, Twin Trap GAME OVER

[Disturbed_One]

perhaps MM is the scum..who knows!!

Is this how you typically scum-hunt? If so, you need to change that. You're not helping with posts like this.


@ Human Destroyer:

I agree that Tazaro backing down looks scummy, however when I asked for his reasoning it sounded really genuine to me. I'm conflicted on Tazaro.


I'd be happy lynching ArcAngel today for that last post.

VOTE: ArcAngel9

[ArcAngel9]

And what exactly you achieved?
Do you realize that we are still on Page6? Wake up chicken!!!

[Disturbed_One]

And what exactly you achieved?
Do you realize that we are still on Page6? Wake up chicken!!!

Yep, here's the scum.

Come on, people. Let's get some votes over here.

[MonkeyMan576]

I'm waiting for something to happen. It's page 6 and everyone is mostly posting worthless posts that will have nothing to do with who is eventually lynched.

I'll try and do an analysis of the meager events that have happened so far a little later when I have time.

[ArcAngel9]

And what exactly you achieved?
Do you realize that we are still on Page6? Wake up chicken!!!

Yep, here's the scum.

Come on, people. Let's get some votes over here.

This attitude is not acceptable. You're just being a Jerk. can you please do your job!!!

[Disturbed_One]

I'm waiting for something to happen. It's page 6 and everyone is mostly posting worthless posts that will have nothing to do with who is eventually lynched.

I'll try and do an analysis of the meager events that have happened so far a little later when I have time.

While you're doing your analysis, make sure to answer my question that you've dodged for the second time in a row.

This attitude is not acceptable. You're just being a Jerk. can you please do your job!!!

I find this horribly ironic.

[unseencamo]

Sorry I didn't get a chance to finish my reads guys... anyway I think I just have arc and disturbed left.

arc

Post #44, he voted for me, "it seems fishy". These were his only words of real explanation, besides the blah blah blah I agree with HD. HD at least had some actual explanation for his vote on me, you presented nothing new and essentially just latched on to HDE's existing vote/ explanation, much like Tazaro did.

(strongest scum read)

disturbed

Well well, to be honest I cannot say that I have been paying to much attention to you. Haha sorry. I went back to read some of your posts. You don't give a strong scum vibe off to me. However, I do think you messed up with your claim the HD's vote "reeks with opportunism". I think the real demonstration of opportunism was arc's vote on me, making it a third vote against me. He saw the opportunity to get on a potential quick lynch wagon and he took it.

(townish)

Arcy-boy, I'm about ready to drop a vote on you, but I would like to hear your response. Everybody else, it would be great to know all of your guys' reads.

Sorry if I seemed a little callous in some of my reads, but that's just the nature of the game I suppose. We have plenty of time left, and although I'm seriously considering voting for arc, I don't want to make a mistake, especially with this much time left.

[unseencamo]

@ MM 128
If you aren't satisfied stir something up. It's your fault just as much as anyone else for the lack of action.
@ Arc #129
You called him a chicken first... If you want to prove your innocence don't try an appeal to pathos or anything of that nature.

[Disturbed_One]

disturbed

Well well, to be honest I cannot say that I have been paying to much attention to you. Haha sorry. I went back to read some of your posts. You don't give a strong scum vibe off to me. However, I do think you messed up with your claim the HD's vote "reeks with opportunism". I think the real demonstration of opportunism was arc's vote on me, making it a third vote against me. He saw the opportunity to get on a potential quick lynch wagon and he took it.

(townish)

Yes, I was primarily focusing on HD and I probably overlooked Arc's vote. However, my vote now is staying on Arc not because of her vote, but because of her reaction to my vote. Her response is completely uncharacteristic compared to the rest of her posts.

Arc's posts since #122 have been fishy and the posts before that aren't exactly impressive examples of scum-hunting, either.

[Venrob]

Official Vote Count 1.5

VC 1.5

Players needed to lynch: 5

ArcAngel9

- 1 - Disturbed_One (L-4)

Lincolm

- 1 - MonkeyMan576 (L-4)

unseencamo

- 1 - ArcAngel9 (L-4)

Tazaro

- 1 - Human Destroyer (L-4)

Players not voting: Lincolm, Hiraki, Tazaro, unseencamo uctriton00

Day 1 deadline:

(expired on 2013-02-02 10:58:00)

[unseencamo]

Oh arc is a female, I apologize for calling you arcy-boy haha.

[unseencamo]

@ disturbed
I understand your reasoning.

[Lincolm]

If the latter, what exactly do you need me to elaborate on?

Yes, it is the latter. Because I saw unseencamo's attack for nothing.

Trying to justify it doesn't help.

I don't try to justify it. Just tell you.

So you've learned nothing from everyone else's interactions with you and Lincolm?

I just find that he dislike lurking. Maybe scum want to lynch lurker, maybe town want to discuss.

@MM : I like you to answer this.

@ArcAngel, so you are basically saying it's okay to lurk?

So you think I'm lurk? Describe your lurk also because you didn't start any discussion.
You rather to vote me without reason, but explain the reason in page 3. Why not explain it in page 1?

Ok, but the fact that he had to state his lurking reasons seems to me that he is overconcerned about how people see him.

Why I over concerned?

@Unseencamo : Your post #119 not include ArcAngel. Why?

Arcy-boy, I'm about ready to drop a vote on you, but I would like to hear your response.

Why ask? Why not just vote her?

Arc's posts since #122 have been fishy and the posts before that aren't exactly impressive examples of scum-hunting, either.

Probably you don't know worse player.

[unseencamo]

@ Lincolm
Obviously you did not read my entire post, next time pay better attention. I didn't have time to finish the post. I was is a computer/technology class, and I had some down time to go on mafiascum. I was writing up my reads but then the class ended. Like I said, I didn't have time to finish, that's all you needed to know. Now to address your other question, I want her response to then judge and analysis it. Basic mafia technique. Maybe try utilizing real techniques like that in the future when attempting to scum hunt. And the claim that my attack was for nothing is complete fallacy. You made me suspicious of you and I wanted to see your reaction. Basic mafia technique, once more. I discovered that you are obviously a inexperienced player and that doesn't know much about the game or how to play it. The join date wasn't a dead give away, as some new players have more "mafia smarts" than others, even when they first start. Lots of people read the wiki before they play, or while they are waiting to play. Your meta is way off for town. However, it didn't seem to scummy to me, just clueless. Once again, if you would simply read my posts you would not have to ask questions, you would already have the answers.

[Lincolm]

You can use draft rather than post in separate like that in #131. Yes, I didn't pay attention in #131. I don't even care someone think I'm scummy or not. My opinions is more important than myself. Also other opinions.

No. Even you said you want to judge her post, it doesn't make sense because you already said she is your strongest scum read. Is your judge make many differences with your read? If yes, then why you don't try to ask something to Tazaro and Hiraki also? Is your vote hurt much to her? I don't see she is in L-1. You can vote and unvote, not hold your vote.

I'm completely didn't see your attack for something. What I saw you tried to more activities and you pushed it on me. I already said it also.

VOTE: Unseencamo

[unseencamo]

^ This is clearly OMGUS, am I right?
Lincolm, I'm starting to think you are not so clueless. "I don't care someone think I'm scummy or not" (sic). First of all, if you could clear up some of that grammar I would appreciate it, it would be easier to read. And that statement is completely anti-town. You are trying as a townie to PROVE that you are not scum, and if you are town but you "don't care" to prove that you are, you are HURTING the town. Therefore, scum. I can't believe the way you are playing this game. So inelegant. I'm not sure if you are clueless or scum, but you are getting my vote. A mistake like that on your part is inexcusable. This is forum mafia, a TEAM game. It's not about "[your] opinions".
VOTE: Lincolm

[unseencamo]

Oh actually let me rephrase that, you are a clueless scum.

[Lincolm]

You are blatantly want to lynch ArcAngel before. Congrats.

You don't answer my questions and NEVER ask question. Think about that.

You think you can satisfy everyone "I'm town"? Big mistake. That's why I don't even care if someone think I'm scum or town.

So, I hurt town meaning I'm scum? Congrats. Doesn't make sense. I never hurt town and I try to do my best. That is only your opinion that you think I hurt town. I already said, what I want to know is the opinions, if the opinions are false, I will ask, not fencesitting like you.

This is team game, but who is my team? I don't know. Seems you already know everyone alignment. Nice. Not going to change my vote.

[MonkeyMan576]

Human Destroyer

*Doesn't like RVS wagons, I disagree with this, anytime you can get reactions from people it's a good thing
Voted Tazaro
Questioned unseencamo

Leaning Nuetral

ArcAngel9

attacks people for scumhunting on lurking.
takes honesty on face value
unhelpful comments like "Perhaps X is scum, who knows!"

Leaning scum

Disturbed_One

Dislikes laziness.
Dislikes opportunism
Voted HD
Defended Tazaro
Voted ArcAngel9

Leaning Strong Town

Hiraki

Explained Lincolm is a newbie
Voted camo for voting lincolm
Questioned Disturbed_One on opportunism.
Disliked reducing days.

Leaning Town

Lincolm

]
Lazy
Afraid of losing
Afraid of content
OMGUS vote on unseencamo
Better post in #142

Leaning possible newbie town or lazy scum

Tazaro

Votes ArcAngel9 in rvs
Votes without a lot of explanation
Very lurky.

Leaning scum

uctriton00

Unreliable internet
lurking

Leaning Neutral

unseencamo

Votes lincolm
bad "at least I'm contributing" comment.
Says licolm "is probably town." Not my read.
Did a read list, not sure that I agree with them but we'll see where they go.
Overexplains his motivations.
Revotes Lincolm after saying he is probably town.

Leaning neutral-scum

Scummies to Towniest

Tazaro
ArcAngel9

unseencamo
Lincolm

ucriton00
Human Destroyer

Hiraki
Disturbed_one

[MonkeyMan576]

Hey MonkeyMan, you're still voting Lincolm. Does that you mean you still find Lincolm suspicious? If so, what exactly about Lincolm is it that you still find suspicious?

Sorry didn't see your questions. yes, I still find Lincolm suspcious to some degree(defending lurking, overreactive, etc), but there is obviously some newbieness and language barrier there so I feel I need to wait and see with him.

[Tazaro]

I like hammering, so give me someone to hammer pretty soon.

[MonkeyMan576]

Can you hammer yourself?

Vote: Tazaro

[Tazaro]

if you all don't mind a mislynch

[MonkeyMan576]

That's convincing.

[Disturbed_One]

How are any of you looking at ArcAngel's posts on this page and not voting her?

@ Lincolm:

Perhaps you misunderstood me, I did say that I didn't think there was any logic or reason to unseencamo's vote on you. It was a bad vote. I just don't see what's inherently scummy about that.

That said, look at Arc's posts on this page and tell me how she isn't scum.

@ unseencamo:

So Arc is your strongest scum read, but you're voting Lincolm over her? Is that correct? How the heck are you justifying that?

@ Monkeyman:

Look at the point at the top of this post. Explain why you're not voting Arc right now.