Open 520: Stacking the Deck Part II - Game Over...Mafia Win!

[fuzzybutternut]

Hey guys!
VOTE: Jason

I will never trust you in mafia games. >.>

[fuzzybutternut]

Heya Mut!!

P-edit: Bubba, it's Elle, jsyk. lololol

[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: No Lynch
Best RVS vote ever, Discuss!

I refuse to discuss. Discuss!

[fuzzybutternut]

I'd be willing to discuss about RVS votes. This one is better, IMO:

VOTE: anorway

I'd like to visit a norway some day. Not sure which one though.

[fuzzybutternut]

Hello innocent child who isn't me, also I didn't think scum were going to pick innocent child, since it can give a clear, but I guess it's only for day 1; so I think it's safe to say that bodyguard isn't the other PR.

Also, I don't RVS as it is next to pointless.

VOTE: awestfie
reading=good.

Can I call you keyboard?

[fuzzybutternut]

I've never actually played with Awestfie scum.
I've only ever replaced her as scum.
Awest, don't replace out this game. :'(

[fuzzybutternut]

Sounds, do you have history playing with Awestfie?

[fuzzybutternut]

or, almost everyone. there are some who I have not even played with before in this player list

Have we played together?
I really should lower my playing pool...

Also, I want to hear some from Jason before I decide whether or not he's scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

<3 Hope all goes as planned Tammy!!

[fuzzybutternut]

Well that's unfortunate that we rolled IC. That's probably the worst role we could have gotten.

Why? I would have though it would be one of the best? Not only is it a confirmed town that we won't run the risk of mislynching but it has the potential depending on what we get with it to cause possible missed NK's. Though I like it most because it's one less person that I need to at.

Considering most of you all have played together before, how beneficial do you think your meta reads have been and/or will be?

I predict Meta reads to be....interesting to say the least.

[fuzzybutternut]

oh and I will tunnel on fuzzy at some point

I hope so. I sure do enjoy some Mut tunneling.

[fuzzybutternut]

Where did you get that info, Bubba?

[fuzzybutternut]

also UNVOTE:

Mutley, fuzzy, and SoM why are you on Jason?

@Sakura I am, they were a pain in the ass to figure out xD

@Fuzzy I went through everyone's posts looked at all their completed games and kept a tally of their alignment.

I think Jason is scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

@Bubba, I've been in 41 games and 3 are ongoing.

[fuzzybutternut]

UNVOTE:

Cool. Jason's town.

[fuzzybutternut]

Scum Jason would've flailed because he was at L-2 before he could post.

Hmm. I am curious, though, as to why our IC chose Jason over Myself. I'm just as experienced.

[fuzzybutternut]

Possibly. It doesn't matter much, I was just curious.

Pro-Tip: None of that matters, Bubba. Experience means nothing.

[fuzzybutternut]

Yes, but it's not how much you play, it's how much you take in as you play. I've had newbies completely throw me for a loop.

[fuzzybutternut]

Oh FFS. This isn't a newbie game, so drop the whole IC thing.
Jason and I are both registered IC's on site, so speculating about "sheep the IC" is as good as WIFOM is to a newbie town.

[fuzzybutternut]

Innocent child Fuzzy.

Bubba: Your reasoning for my question is null and void, because if you believed what you said earlier, you wouldn't have voted me for that reason.

YOU SHEEPED THE FUCKING INNOCENT CHILD.

...I knew this..I promise I knew this.

[fuzzybutternut]

Is it just me or is bubba flailing a bit?

[fuzzybutternut]

Is it just me or is bubba flailing a bit?

you said that last game you were in with me, and I was town. If you start wanting to death tunnel me again, please ask.

@Sakura I was talking to Jason.

That doesnt change my point

My post was it was in response to

Because i haven't had time and apparently no RL time means i deserve to be voted.

@Bubba: did you even look at my posting elsewhere?

I saw it as if he thought I started the wagon, so I told him I didn't

I didn't say you were scum for it, bro. I said you were flailing.

[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: Bubba

[fuzzybutternut]

Bubba is so clearly flailing it's not even funny.

lynch him pl0x.

[fuzzybutternut]

Why would you even claim right now, bubba? Unknown setup, Day 1, no pressure. Unless you're scum trying to either out our real PR's or because you don't think you'll be counter-claimed this early, I'm not getting it. Reasoning please?

I didn't claim?

Oh so, this isn't you?:

And that would be blue blood on your hands.

My bad.

That's alignment. Not role.

VOTE: elle Of the people on my wagon she seems to be just joining to fulfill my request. Instead of actually caring of alignment. That goes for anorway as well.

Coming from:

I don't give a shiz about helping my alignment.

that carries a lot of weight, yo. Srs. Oh but wait:

And when I said I don't give a shiz about helping my alignment, it was in response to Sakura's post and should be read "I don't give a shiz about helping PROVE my alignment." As that is what she was talking about.

Good save.

Also, this:

VOTE: elle Of the people on my wagon she seems to be just joining to fulfill my request.

Misrep much? This might actually make sense if I hadn't specifically stated in the same post what it was that I found sketchy about you - and asked you to elaborate on.

Great analysis...

"Okay analyze away." Made me think it was litterally to fulfill my request. But I realize now that the first part of the post WAS your reasoning! And I'll apologize for not realizing that.

But the "scummy" thing I did was "claim" which I did not, and maybe that was why I thought it was pointless.

Anyway, I'm sorry elle.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: anorway then. His reasoning was "That's really contradictory. Why did you join it, when you were against it?" Which I had already explained.

Fuzzy, you of all people know I've done this as town, c'mon bro! I can't believe you right now. You're just gonna let me die? I mean I understand you don't like me and all but really, gonna lose a game for that? Wow brosiff.

Who said I didn't like you? Regardless, personal relationships are left out of games. I don't care if I like you, love you, or hate you, if you're scum, i'm going to lynch the shit out of you.

[fuzzybutternut]

I say you don't like me because you ALWAYS think I'm scum xD And I feel you're using that as an excuse for a free Mislynch.

Scum is scum. I call's 'em like I see's 'em.

[fuzzybutternut]

ANd you were wrong the first time around, what makes you not wrong this time?

Statistics and the fact that you're trying so hard to cover up your scumminess.

[fuzzybutternut]

Statistics? What?

Cover up my own scumminess? What?

Statistics: I was wrong the first time. We've played two games together. Statistically, you're more likely to be scum this time than last time.

Covering up your scumminess: AtE-ing, flailing, buddying, etc. etc. etc.

[fuzzybutternut]

lol, kay. You're scum then. Moar Bubba votes.

[fuzzybutternut]

Reaction tests bro. They work.

[fuzzybutternut]

Jason, Mutley, and Sakura for scum 2014.

I mean really attacking the IC because he would like to have YOU lynched and calling him worthless? Thats scum behavior.

Jsmith, if you do go through my games youll notice I always get to L-2 the first day. And each and every time ive been town. The only time ive gotten past D1 with no pressure, was the game i replaced into as scum, and when i came in i was widely accepted as town even though people expected who i replaced.

Jason's not scum, Bro.
Secondly, the IC is the most powerful role we have in the game at this very moment. He is confirmed town. He always will be confirmed town.

Lynch Bubba please.

[fuzzybutternut]

Thats bullshit. Attacking the IC instead of telling him nicely what hes doing is scummy. You literally just dont like him because he wants you lynched.

Did you read the post where he explained BOTH his votes. Its not "random"

I probably am. I dont care i find scum through unconventional ways, sue me.

Youre right fuzzy the IC is confirmed town. He shouldnt be so brutally attacked.

No one is brutally attacking him. He's not doing

anything

.

[fuzzybutternut]

Lol if you think that's brutal

[fuzzybutternut]

I shouldn't even have to defend the IC. He's fucking clear. And you all are treating him like trash. I'm not doing it for towncred, I'm DOING IT TO FIND SCUM. -_-

Screwed my vote tags up.

VOTE: mutley

OMGUS.

[fuzzybutternut]

I agree, Mut.

Bad logic isn't good for town.

Bubba, the fact that you're arguing about your OMGUS vote just means that you're scum even more.

p-edit: Next election year is 2016...

[fuzzybutternut]

@Sakura: I'm not Jester -_- I just don't give a F about being lynched, because ultimately it will help town when they realize I am town.

This is really, really town and it is also something I would personally say as town and have trouble faking as scum

How is not caring about being lynched town? Shouldn't town want to avoid being lynched?

Yes, they should, but they shouldn't freak out when they're about to be lynched.

[fuzzybutternut]

I didn't OMGUS him though that's the fucking point. IF I OMGUS'd him I'd be scummy. But I didn't! He did and I proved it. Read that tidbit and maybe you'll see how scummy Mutley is.

I'll be damned it is. Double oops.

I don't understand your post Mutley. You asked for a policy I don't care if you voted him or not, you asked.

The fact that you're still on about this when

No one called you scum for OMGUSing

only further concludes that you are, in fact, scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

@Sakura: I'm not Jester -_- I just don't give a F about being lynched, because ultimately it will help town when they realize I am town.

This is really, really town and it is also something I would personally say as town and have trouble faking as scum

How is not caring about being lynched town? Shouldn't town want to avoid being lynched?

Scum wants to avoid being lynched more then town. Town should only really care for 2 reasons. 1. They are a PR, 2. It's lylo/mylo.

But just to let you know actions speak louder than words. Analysing actions, then motivation for actions and words, then the words is the best process to finding scum

AKA ignore my words. I swear I'm not scum. Bullshit.

@Fuzzy are you saying I'm freaking out? Lol. I'm calm as a dove.

I'll reply to fuzzys other comment in a sec

You're flailing. Town has no reason to flail to the extent that you are flailing.

[fuzzybutternut]

Bubba-No ad hominem ffs.
This is the kinda thing scum does right here.

[fuzzybutternut]

This, what you're doing right now, is what scum does. Learn from it. After you die, of course.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm town though, so one of these things ain't like the others.

Said every scum in the history of Mafia.

[fuzzybutternut]

Elle- Who are you referring to?

[fuzzybutternut]

That looks like newb scum mudslinging, tbh.

[fuzzybutternut]

Newb mudslinging being "Maybe I can get a wagon on x by stating that they're doing this, which is scummy, even though they didn't actually do said thing"

[fuzzybutternut]

I didn't say he was misdirecting. I said he was mudslinging.

[fuzzybutternut]

@Mod: I start College tomorrow, so if I start slacking in posting just

slap the shit out of me

urge me to post moar.

[fuzzybutternut]

I feel like we're getting nowhere.
Bubba is scum, I'm sure of it.

[fuzzybutternut]

I would vote Bubba if he wasn't at L-1.

I fail to see how not caring about getting lynched is townie. Even if there are reasons behind it (Which I disagree with), it can be faked for WIFOM and is more an indicator of apathy, which depends on the person and not their role, than alignment.

This is soooooo false and sooooo not the reason Bubba is scum. You know, this actually looks like a very shitty excuse to bus your partner.
Scum two found! Wooo!

[fuzzybutternut]

TGO the point is your not pointing your finger at anyone and having conviction behind your words like you actually believe the points your making.

It's like halfassing but worse.

This, basically.

[fuzzybutternut]

Your signature is completely relevant.

[fuzzybutternut]

Ohgod. MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF POSTS INCOMING.

[fuzzybutternut]

Saki replaces awestfie when I send him his role pm! Thanks to Saki!

notscience replaces anorway[.

Thanks!

Oh fuck.

[fuzzybutternut]

and so it begins...

[fuzzybutternut]

*sigh* I have class, you guys. Try to keep the posting down to a minimal. I really don't like coming back to four pages of nothing.

[fuzzybutternut]

'bout damn time.

[fuzzybutternut]

Not, are you stalking me?

[fuzzybutternut]

I was in the original running of this game and it was fun

But yes I am

I'm okay with this.

[fuzzybutternut]

ohey jsmith. You're actually in this game. Cool.
Jason- What's your speculation concerning last night's events?

[fuzzybutternut]

he's doing worse than nothing actually.

Basically.
Which is aggravating.

[fuzzybutternut]

'cause that makes me scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

'cause that makes me scum.

It greatly increases the probability that you're scum.

Lol no it doesn't. Look at the setup of this game. It's actually BETTER for scum to No-Kill N1, so as to avoid accidentally killing the traitor.

[fuzzybutternut]

Actually no, if they hit the traitor they will know because he didnt die.

traitor is 1-shot BP?
oh. I didn't know that.

*shrug* Still, not scum.

[fuzzybutternut]

Okay.

I have a policy about L-1 votes this early in the day, so I'm not going to vote just yet, but it's there in spirit

in spirit. lololol. <3

[fuzzybutternut]

Looking at Jason's and jsimth's reasons, I agree completely.

I am the roleblocker, and I blocked fuzzybutternut last night.

Also- this makes me laugh even more because I'm not a PR. So either you're PR hunting scum, OR you legitimately Roleblocked me last night and scum either no-killed or hit their traitor. Either way, waste of an RB.

[fuzzybutternut]

^that's opportunistic as fuck, btw.

[fuzzybutternut]

Looking at Jason's and jsimth's reasons, I agree completely.

I am the roleblocker, and I blocked fuzzybutternut last night.

Also- this makes me laugh even more because I'm not a PR. So either you're PR hunting scum, OR you legitimately Roleblocked me last night and scum either no-killed or hit their traitor. Either way, waste of an RB.

What makes you think that I want you to claim as PR? That would only ruin the town if you did.

Besides, you sound really smug for someone who is at L-2.

why did you not vote him?

Oh yeah.

But jsmith makes a good point, we should take a little more time before we lynch him.

lol. You honestly think L-2 bothers me? And that's the point of PR hunting, which is what scum does, btw.

[fuzzybutternut]

lol. You honestly think L-2 bothers me? And that's the point of PR hunting, which is what scum does, btw.

Yes. You have no reason to be smug, considering L-2 is only because me and jsmith don't want to end the day so quickly.

It's also the point of mafia CCing, which apparently you're worried about, considering you think that was what I was doing.

I'm not being smug. I simply just don't care. Go ahead and hammer me if you want.

Yeah, I'm totally worried about CC's. Totally.

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm not being smug. I simply just don't care. Go ahead and hammer me if you want.

Now you seem to not care. One post ago, not so much.

Jesus christ

I'm kinda doubting a Role-blocker exists this game

VOTE: TGO

It really sounds like you're just trying to lynch me no matter what.

Because you know me so well.

[fuzzybutternut]

Fuzzy is scum, Soundsofmusic is scum 2

Totes.

[fuzzybutternut]

Doesn't town-fuzzy go all tunnel usually?

Where's that?

Only on certain people.

[fuzzybutternut]

VOTE: Qwertyuiop

Let's look at facts, shall we?
Fact 1.) He's done nothing. Self explanatory.
Fact 2.) He comes in to make 1 post with 0 content, putting the leading wagon at L-1.
Fact 3.) He's scum.
Fact 4.) He should die.
Fact 5.) He's scum

[fuzzybutternut]

Why vote now rather than an earlier post when he just did it?

I was waiting for him to come in and actually do something, but he never did.

[fuzzybutternut]

We should lynch either the claimed roleblocker or the person they blocked, one of them is likely to be scum. I don't see what else there is to say.

Suggesting we lynch the PR is not even remotely close to helping town. Try again.

[fuzzybutternut]

Which is why I am voting the person they blocked.

I simply think that if we do not vote them the only reason would be because we doubted the truth of the RBer claim.

lol you're so wrong it's not even funny.

[fuzzybutternut]

A picture of a keyboard, perhaps?

[fuzzybutternut]

Totally fits you, Qwerty. hmm.

[fuzzybutternut]

I feel as if this game has stalled...

[fuzzybutternut]

I need to start using my bookmarks for my games

VOTE: Qwertyuiop

Let's look at facts, shall we?
Fact 1.) He's done nothing. Self explanatory.
Fact 2.) He comes in to make 1 post with 0 content, putting the leading wagon at L-1.
Fact 3.) He's scum.
Fact 4.) He should die.
Fact 5.) He's scum

So you have 1 fact being repeated 5 times about him doing nothing?

This is a useless IIOA (I think I'm using that term correctly) post to get you out of your situation.

And a useless person is better kept alive instead of a very potential scumman.

Which is why I am voting the person they blocked.

I simply think that if we do not vote them the only reason would be because we doubted the truth of the RBer claim.

lol you're so wrong it's not even funny.

Denial.

A picture of a keyboard, perhaps?

Totally fits you, Qwerty. hmm.

Helping an off topic conversation to prolong the day.

I feel as if this game has stalled...

You clearly helped stall it.

I never said I didn't, but I was posting, whereas the rest of the game for the most part was not.
It's hard to post content when no one is around.

Let me ask you this.
If two people are arguing in a bar one night and everyone witnesses it, and then 4-5 hours later one of them ends up dead, does that mean that the person they were arguing with killed the man?

[fuzzybutternut]

I don't see any reason for the people voting fuzzy

to

be active, more the people who aren't voting fuzzy need to either vote him and help lynch him, or they need to tell us why they aren't voting him.

you're saying there's no reason for people to be active in a game that strives off of people being active?
lolwut

[fuzzybutternut]

lol how am I confirmed scum?

[fuzzybutternut]

Looking at Jason's and jsimth's reasons, I agree completely.

I am the roleblocker, and I blocked fuzzybutternut last night.

This does not, nor will it ever, confirm anyone as any alignment. Even if he is an RB, many other factors can come into play.

[fuzzybutternut]

Congrats Elle. <3 I told you everything would be fine.

[fuzzybutternut]

xD
Not, I <3 you.

I got a good kick out of watching Elle flail, though.