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Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:06 pm

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dahen wrote:Depending on your creativity, it would be nice if you could post what you mean in an encrypted form that can be decrypted with a key you give after Glork's answer. I don't know if such stuff is allowed or if you understand how to do it well, but it would be nice. Otherwise, just wait a little for Glorkie.
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Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Mon Feb 26, 2007 10:00 pm

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Vote Count (unchanged)


klebian: 1 (Glork)
Glork: 1 (klebian)
VitaminR: 1 (petroleumjelly)

Not voting: dahen Fritzler VitaminR

With 6 on the bridge, it will take 4 to push someone out of the airlock.

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Thursday 1st March 9.30am GMT
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Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:10 am

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I see. :-)

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Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:20 am

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I PMed Stoof, and he said that I was already pushing things as far as flavor goes. On top of that, I really can't see what glaring difference you're getting at. The only significant things I'm noticing are the "being lost/searched for" part, and the flavor behind getting separated. Without a Soldier PM, I don't know if there's any way I can see this discrepancy.

If you put together my detailed paraphrase with my most recent post, you should have a
very
good idea of what the wording of my role PM is (which is probably why Stoof said I'm edging the line). I'm afraid I can't give much else. *shrug*
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Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 5:52 am

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Deadline in two days, guys. No point in trying to avoid the thread or voting. Would like to hear from Fritz and Klebian.
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Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:02 am

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Vote: klebian


I don't think I am going to end up voting anyone else. I've thought about it and there is too much that speaks in favour of Glork for me to ignore. The lack of a nightkill Night 4 is an important one, but also the fact that I find it unlikely that, if he's scum, his claimed blocks would still fit the roles of three players.

I also don't think the flavour thing speaks that strongly against Glork. A power role PM would be worded differently and I also get the feeling that there are some differences between the standard role PMs.

I'm not sure if it matters, but should I spell out what I had encoded?
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Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:14 am

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No, don't spell it out, VitaminR. In this regard, you're already cleared (which means you're a gorilla or a SM and have our PM).

I would very much like Klebian to give his view on this. I'm tempted to follow your example.
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Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:26 pm

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Well, I can't really see any encryption in Vitamin's post that represents the difference between glork's claim and my PM. He claims that he has the ability to convince other primates to stand down and take no action, while I am told that I was trying to slaughter the crew. Weapons may be another difference, but that doesn't seem significant enough.
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Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:27 pm

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Yeah, that wasn't really mentioned in my PM. Killing off the crew is mentioned in the win condition, but that's really the extent of it. *shrug*
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Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:40 pm

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BZZT. Wrong answer. I would have thought you would remember to look at the post StD was modkilled for before talking about win conditions.

Bah, looks like my vote is on VitaminR, probably because I wanted to take away all chances of quicklynching if it was possible. Tum-de-tum.

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Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:45 pm

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Um... Killing the crew -> Space Monkeys die -> Win Condition. I referred to it as "Killing the crew"
because
I didn't want to toe the line with regards to flavor. :roll:
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Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:46 pm

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Mm-hmm. Sounds like an answer from somebody who just screwed up.
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Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:47 pm

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*because I wanted to toe the line. I was thinking "didn't want to cross the line."
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Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:48 pm

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So is Fritz your scum-buddy, then? That might actually make more sense than Nightson/VitaminR, come to think of it.
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Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:49 pm

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petroleumjelly wrote:Bah, looks like my vote is on VitaminR, probably because I wanted to take away all chances of quicklynching if it was possible. Tum-de-tum.
No, your vote was in VitR because you wanted to "test" whether Kelbian would jump ship to VitaminR. Me not being scum likely implies that Klebs is scum, and considering he's already voting me, that takes away most of the possibility for a quick-lynch anyway.
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Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:50 pm

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No. That's why I
said
I was voting VitaminR. That wasn't why I voted him. I'm not stupid enough to think Klebian would seriously suddenly want to vote for VitaminR at that time.
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Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:53 pm

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And if you haven't noticed by now, Glork, my attack on you today was simply because:

1.) I knew I wasn't going to get lynched
2.) I haven't decided on who was scum
3.) I realized nobody else in the game was likely to attack you very much
4.) The best way to decide who I thought was scum or town was to give people multiple choices and see where they voted / expressed opinions

... but since everybody in this game has turned out to be a lazy [insert whatever word you want here], I have pretty much gained no information today, which is a large reason in why I hate this game: nobody ever gives opinions, and for when people actually did, I can't really use them because everybody will claim "I thought I was scum!". The town pretty much deserves to lose this game for it's inattentiveness at this point.
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Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:56 pm

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^ Not to mention the fact that the town has pretty much been relying solely on Thok's Cop claim, and now instead of using scumminess or bothering to reread, they are reverting to using role PMs. This game is pretty sad overall.
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Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:28 pm

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Vote Count


klebian: 2 (Glork VitaminR)
Glork: 2 (klebian petroleumjelly)

Not voting: dahen Fritzler

With 6 on the bridge, it will take 4 to push someone out of the airlock.


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Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:05 am

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Fritzler - any thoughts?

I'm leaning at voting Klebian. I am suspcious about Glork, but so was I last time when he was town. The lack of kills and the return to Thok at the point it did fits well with a roleblocker. Glork was fast with his claim this day, which speaks in his favor too.

With Klebian as one scum, I'd say Fritzler is the other. Mostly based on townie feelings from the rest. Fritzler is always posting so short posts that I have a hard time reading him. I'll see if I can find any support for this theory.

If this is true, then PJ must change his vote to avoid a no-lynch.

PJ, I like the efforts you are putting into this. Please keep it up. You're doing a good job, but I don't agree with your conclusions this time. I wouldn't call the game sad. I enjoy it very much.

No need waiting for Fritzler, let's get this vote in.

vote Klebian
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Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:58 am

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Bah. Well, if Glork's scum, I doubt I'll be convincing two other people to vote with me in the next thousand minutes or so.

May as well hear from VitaminR (to confirm/deny encryption) and Fritz while the chance is still there, even though I think this is very likely a very stupid lynch.
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Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:10 am

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dahen wrote:I am suspcious about Glork, but so was I last time when he was town. The lack of kills and the return to Thok at the point it did fits well with a roleblocker. Glork was fast with his claim this day, which speaks in his favor too.
*sigh*

1.)
That doesn't mean Glork is town every time you find him suspicious.

2.)
The lack of kills can also be explained by other means (such as Traitor recruitment, Masterchief's role, etc)

3.)
Glork being fast with his claim means
nothing
. If he is scum, he has had
seven game days
over which to think of a claim, and in a possible LyLo situation, scum are going to claim as fast as possible to get the town to mislynch on what they think fits the situation best in order to achieve that.

Glork could not claim Cop, Vigilante, Tracker [too many results to fake and be consistent with his past statements], Doctor, and many other roles... really, as scum, his only fake power claim option was that of Role-Blocker. And he
couldn't
have claimed to have role-blocked any of Dahen/Fritzler/Nightson [VitaminR] because then there would have been
absolutely no excuse
for him to have not claimed this type of information on an uninvestigated person. That only leaves Klebian and myself to claim a role-blocking on, and since Klebian is by far the easier lynch of the two, Glork's play today is optimal for scum. Anybody who knows anything about rankings in military (or what have you) or with access to them would be able to think of going from Ensign => Lieutenant => Captain/Commander/Admiral, etc etc. Really, there is nothing in Glork's claim whatsoever which makes it "more likely" he is town, especially since he doesn't even have full Gorilla Traitor flavor.

Furthermore, Thok made it quite clear he knew about Traitors (with his "Et Tu, Glork" statement, which was a direct reference to Verbose 2 Mafia), while Glork denied having any Traitor flavor in his role PM.
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Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:14 am

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Hmm.

Jelly Premonition tells me Fritz will probably just walk up and hammer, and there's nothing I can do to stop it at the moment. Only
you
have the option of unvoting Klebian if you are doubting!

There is really nothing "bad" which can happen from a No-Lynch (except there being a high likelihood of me finding my vaporized while nobody is watching), so it's not as if we
have
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Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:36 am

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petroleumjelly wrote:Hmm.

Jelly Premonition tells me Fritz will probably just walk up and hammer, and there's nothing I can do to stop it at the moment. Only
you
have the option of unvoting Klebian if you are doubting!

There is really nothing "bad" which can happen from a No-Lynch (except there being a high likelihood of me finding my vaporized while nobody is watching), so it's not as if we
have
to lynch today.
not yet, i don't know who klebian's scum partner is if he's scum, where its much easier to figure out glork's scum buddy, which is the only thing saving me from voting klebian
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Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:56 am

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Fritzler wrote:not yet, i don't know who klebian's scum partner is if he's scum, where its much easier to figure out glork's scum buddy, which is the only thing saving me from voting klebian
Well, it's obviously not Glork+Fritz.

So it could be Glork+VitR or Klebian+Fritz/VitR. I still find Dahen very unlikely. His gears are obviously churning, and he's shown a vested interest in trying to confirm or condemn somebody, if at all possible, using flavor. If we take into account the possibility of scums having a sample PM or flavor, then Dahen isn't
strictly
cleared, but it could bring VitR into question.

At this point, if Klebian is lynched as scum, I'm definitely blocking VitR overnight. That way, if there's a death -- even if it's me, we'll know that he's cleared. If there is no death, we'll have 5 alive. That way, even if scums tried to no-kill, we still give ousrelves two shots to find the last scumbag.

If Klebian is lynched as a pro-town player, I will block one of VitR/Dahen, as protown Klebian obviously implies protown Fritz.
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