Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER

[JacobSavage]

Yay I've missed yabba's prettinesses!

VOTE: Alduskkel

Scum found.

You can wagon now.

[JacobSavage]

Hey I vote myself sometimes on RVS

js

notscience self votes in RVS all the time

js

Someone was busy...

Adesk, why Venrob vote?

[JacobSavage]

STOP POSTING SO MUCH!

Seriously I don't have any idea whats going on.

Will get around to reading.

[JacobSavage]

MY RVS WAS A LEGITIMATE REASON. UNVOTE:

But seriously, Venrob isn't looking total obvs scum so I'll be happy on Venrob town.

[JacobSavage]

I haven't been aware of an Ank/Ven thing

sorry?

[JacobSavage]

sup, had a post.

Will get to this tonight.

[JacobSavage]

Venrob is leaning town for me cause I like how he just straight up said "this is how I play" etc., and everything he's done so far seems to match that. in fact I said this already 0.0

Seriously this gives you a town read?

Stupid internet... stopped letting me post! Fixed it. About the wiki: I cant write what i claimed in thread? I need to make people dig for my claim? That's stupid.

My play in one sentence?
Very odd with false scumtells seen where i cant tell and what people tell me is bad play, though i highly disagree because its just how i play.
Check it- run on sentence, but just one.

Now as for in a nice description:
I play odd enough for people to call me scum as town and town as scum (check open 428- absta was such an idiot). I can make good plays (472 i claimed mason as vt and scum shot me (in that game when scum shoots vt the scum dies)). I can be bad in LYLO (Phineas and Ferb mafia, to be fair i replaced in). Sometimes people get accurate reads on me (lylo of 428- all the town except absta thought i was scum). As for my scumhunting skills, not much untill day 2 or three, or when the first scum dies. My brain works differently than most, so i hunt differently. Dont try and have me explain how i hunt, it would take a while to type and also i dont really know how i do it myself lol. I'd have to ISO myself in several different games to figure it out (its mostly subconscious hunting).

LONG POST IS LONG

Anyway as i said im not much use untill day 2 or 3. Now, further questions about me?

That's pretty much what you've said he was town for.

(Spoiler: He was scum)

[JacobSavage]

----Town
Alduskkel
Brian Skies
----Null
DoctorEagle
EspeciallyTheLies
Hiraki
Sakura Hana
thenewearth
Ankamius
------ Scum
Venrob
pieguyn
Viera Assassin

[JacobSavage]

VA is scum because his name is last and I didn't see it when I was moving the names around, SO BY JOVE HE MUST BE SCUM.

Venrob is scum because of this self meta thing, that and he deliberately avoids his other scum games that he replaced out of which to be honest, given how he seems to be trying to cover it up.

You are scum if Venrob isn't for trying to white knight him over something stupid.

[JacobSavage]

1. What I was saying is that your reasoning is shit. "Venrob is town for his self-meta" when I just gave an example of self-meta as scum, which makes your point null.
2. You seem to be misrepping now. I said your town tell is null because 1. and Venrob is scum for deliberately avoiding in his meta any scum games that would actually be useful for us.
3. I really wasn't paying attention, to be perfectly honest. THat and I don't think I've seen VA or Sakura play before meaning I can't comment.
4. That's how I roll.

[JacobSavage]

Bare in mind it doesn't have to be a CC for him to be fake claiming.

In fact if he's mafia it would show very strong likelyhood of them having chosen few to no power ups.

[JacobSavage]

Scum?

[JacobSavage]

Doesn't that mean The Eagle is scum...

[JacobSavage]

I thought I answered you like twice already!

When I meant White Knighting him I was meaning you were being very defensive of when he was a leading wagon.

i.e. you were coming up with terribel reasons why he was town and using that to avoid the wagon.

[JacobSavage]

Because when I pressed submit I didn't realise there was a P-Edit screen til I had closed it.

suppose everyone did what you did and no one did anything, what would happen then? everyone is just sitting there without trying to obtain new information and so they never can get an idea of who the mafia could be = = clearly this doesn't help town at all and just active-lurking doesn't help either.

at least you could be asking some questions to get more information based off your reads, why aren't you doing this?

But its quite obvious thats not at all what is happening. When posting is slow I post more, you can see that by looking at some past games.

Also Venrob is scum, like seriously. He replaces out when he gets wagonned as scum. (Again 1 game meta)

[JacobSavage]

I already explain them silly ETL.

[JacobSavage]

Here:

VA is scum because his name is last and I didn't see it when I was moving the names around, SO BY JOVE HE MUST BE SCUM.

Venrob is scum because of this self meta thing, that and he deliberately avoids his other scum games that he replaced out of which to be honest, given how he seems to be trying to cover it up.

You are scum if Venrob isn't for trying to white knight him over something stupid.

1. What I was saying is that your reasoning is shit. "Venrob is town for his self-meta" when I just gave an example of self-meta as scum, which makes your point null.
2. You seem to be misrepping now. I said your town tell is null because 1. and Venrob is scum for deliberately avoiding in his meta any scum games that would actually be useful for us.
3. I really wasn't paying attention, to be perfectly honest. THat and I don't think I've seen VA or Sakura play before meaning I can't comment.
4. That's how I roll.

Why because I'm silly, but seriously Adesk, the difference is pieguyn is that his reasoning is fairly soild, compared to your "he self meta'd, obvs not scum"

VOTE: Pieguyn

[JacobSavage]

I'm a L-1 and I may not be on later,

Claim: Bodyguard

[JacobSavage]

Okay, I did protect Bert last night...

lol

[JacobSavage]

Got it from this post.

quote="In post 2, yabbaguy"][*]Change a Mafia Goon to

Mafia JOAT

(One Shot Ninja, One Shot Strongman)[/quote]

[JacobSavage]

Damn.

[JacobSavage]

From my Point of view its the only option.

Only two PR's that have claimed.

Unless we have an idoit Roleblocker around here.....

[JacobSavage]

/Prod Dodge, Imma going to get some sleep.

@DE, do you think reads can change?

[JacobSavage]

Hi prod recieved, will post tonight.

[JacobSavage]

Really? How is that a scumslip?

[JacobSavage]

Because he's mafia and is going to kill you if you don't help him throw TNE under a bus.

[JacobSavage]

NS, Why ETL is it because you both have nice Acronyms?

[JacobSavage]

I wasn't aware of it so I don't see why you'd expect him to be?

[JacobSavage]

Wait Saka self voted.

Thats just bad.

Like uber bad.

[JacobSavage]

VOTE: Sakura

If this flips scum Hiraki is buddy.

[JacobSavage]

Because she had more votes at the time

VOTE: ETL

[JacobSavage]

You have a one shot bulletproof ability if you are not recruited.

Okay so we have to now assume they have either a BP or a RC.

(But not both interestingly)

[JacobSavage]

/proddodge because I'm bloody useless.



i dont like how both ETL and DE where on Saka, it just seems too silly.

[JacobSavage]

VOTE: Hiraki

I DON@T WAN'T TO COMMIT TO ANY WAGONS YET

[JacobSavage]

Ald why is my vote "OBVIOUSLY terrible?".

[JacobSavage]

It was the former.

Thats why my vote was terrible.

Opps. Although having done a little reading I like my vote anyway.

[JacobSavage]

I'm going to guess one of those is me.

Who is the other one?

[JacobSavage]

Hell I protected you last night IP.

To be honest if I don't die and IP doesn't die we lynch in the non town

{Scum have to kill IP at some point, leaving a Roleblocker alive seems stupid espically given the mafia win conditions and the possiblity of quick hammer. This means that I have to die sometime before final Lylo (RBer, BG, Mafia Goon is Happily Ever After, lynch BG, RB scum for trolololol).

AND we know that there has to be at least one scum in the remaining group either traitor or goon, either way with a correct lynch.

Basically if IP dies at any point lynch me with extreme presendence}.

[JacobSavage]

Then we look at my post and go lol lol lol lol.

They have to do the trade.

With 6 alive tommorrow and one of which is me and one of which is IP, we have a 1 in 2 chance of hitting scum. PLUS

If me IP and a Goon are left alive in 3person lylo we win / draw depending.

[JacobSavage]

Fine lets assume I'm scum.

Either way lynching in that pool gives us a 1/4 and a 1/2 chance of lynching scum (two lynches)

This gives us (assuming we lynch correctly once)
RB / VT / VT / Me (Scum) <- No lynch
RB/ VT / Me(Scum) <- Lynch me to win.

[JacobSavage]

Okay we can win this then.

[JacobSavage]

I'd keep it a secret.

You're going to be here tommorrow no matter what. If they pull a no kill gambit then they're just silly.

[JacobSavage]

Sure.

Honestly the less said the better.

VOTE: Ankamius

[JacobSavage]

lol.

Personally I'd go Hiraki > Eagle > Sakura > ns > Aldusk. Neither Sakura or ns feel particuarlly townie to me.

I guess we could have each unconfirmed player do another unconfirmed player (or themselves) to reduce workload. Just a thought. However, I wouldn't count on NS or JS to do that based on the amount of effort they've put into the game so far.

So harsh would do if I had to...

[JacobSavage]

What did you mean?

[JacobSavage]

Okay do you not understand the paranoia aspect behind this. Keep the scummy BG alive so they get lynched.

Anyway I've told you, by keeping me alive til 3p lylo we can at worst draw.

[JacobSavage]

Yep assuming IP isn't scum (was having paranoid thoughts about this in the morning. It would explain why 1. I haven't died, 2. Why their was a no kill, 3. It means scum don't have to take daytalk - Might expand on this because unsettlingly it does explain a lot of what has happened...)

And yes I've been though it, lynch me happily ever after til end game. Scum have to kill me unless they want this to happen (unless IP is scum).

[JacobSavage]

Yep assuming IP isn't scum

IP is conftown.

How? Where?

[JacobSavage]

Okay forgot that bit. Ignore my paranoia.

[JacobSavage]

I can assure you I am not scum/

As I've already said lynching me tommorrow is about the second worst move you can do after lynching Pie (I'll be honest I forgot about the whole Brian thing).

3p lylo with me IP and scum is a draw (lynch m -> draw)

[JacobSavage]

I'm pretty sure LlamaFluff said something along those lines when it was proposed.

I am sorry I was shit this game

and yeah, I've gotten my revenge of sorts for Bawhston Brawl. now to win a game opposite alignment from Hoopla.

That game... *hides head in shame*

[JacobSavage]

Yet you still choose to kill Sakura....

Also I find it funny that literally all the replacements in this game where PRs...