Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER

[Hiraki]

I'll admit that I've been lurking. Haven't seen anything jump out at me yet but I'll also admit that I haven't given this game a full 100% attention.

[Venrob]

Well I somehow forgot I was in this game.... School and all makes me busy during the week. I don't have too much time online before I need to do my essay homework... Though I only need to finish an outline today, so it shouldn't take too long. Anyways, L-1-

I AM THE GOON COP.

[Viera Assassin]

UNVOTE:

[Viera Assassin]

Goon cop's a good fakeclaim though
what say you

[Viera Assassin]

and why'd you claim with noone claiming intent to hammer

[Brian Skies]

and why'd you claim with noone claiming intent to hammer

This.

And moving on.

UNVOTE: Venrob

VOTE: Alduskkel

[Brian Skies]

Also, I'd like to go out on a limb and say VA is probably town this game. But I think Sakura is probably the most familiar with VA's playstyle, so whatever.

[Venrob]

I don't wait for intent to hammer when I am a PR, because maf might quickhammer without stating intent.

[Hiraki]

...which would mean that a mafia would be caught...

I'm waiting for plausible CCs.

[JacobSavage]

Bare in mind it doesn't have to be a CC for him to be fake claiming.

In fact if he's mafia it would show very strong likelyhood of them having chosen few to no power ups.

[Venrob]

If mafia chose daytalk and 2 goon upgrades, then I am powerless. I found this out before I even /inned and the idea of mafia being able to do something like that interested me, which is why I /inned in the first place. I was actually hoping to be mafia. This is the second worst role I could have gotten IMO; worst being VT.

[thenewearth]

Fak

UNVOTE:

>.>

[Hiraki]

Bare in mind it doesn't have to be a CC for him to be fake claiming.

In fact if he's mafia it would show very strong likelyhood of them having chosen few to no power ups.

I'm not lynching a PR-claim D1.

[pieguyn]

1. What I was saying is that your reasoning is shit. "Venrob is town for his self-meta" when I just gave an example of self-meta as scum, which makes your point null.

at the time I posted that I wasn't aware of his meta. it was also the tone of his post, it seemed town to me and it's different from the tone in what you quoted ww

2. You seem to be misrepping now. I said your town tell is null because 1. and Venrob is scum for deliberately avoiding in his meta any scum games that would actually be useful for us.

ok, got it

3. I really wasn't paying attention, to be perfectly honest. THat and I don't think I've seen VA or Sakura play before meaning I can't comment.

still the fact that someone's using meta to make a 100% judgment is a valid point, regardless of the exact meta. IMO, if you used meta to say my read is wrong, it makes sense to question when someone else does it too to make sure their idea isn't wrong either.

4. That's how I roll.

it's not a pro-town way to roll :>
suppose everyone did what you did and no one did anything, what would happen then? everyone is just sitting there without trying to obtain new information and so they never can get an idea of who the mafia could be = = clearly this doesn't help town at all and just active-lurking doesn't help either.

at least you could be asking some questions to get more information based off your reads, why aren't you doing this?

also answer this plz

You are scum if Venrob isn't for trying to white knight him over something stupid.

I'm not actually white knighting him? I just said I was townreading him. not sure on the exact definition of white knighting but I don't think I've done any actual defense on his part o.o

@Venrob:

If mafia chose daytalk and 2 goon upgrades, then I am powerless. I found this out before I even /inned and the idea of mafia being able to do something like that interested me, which is why I /inned in the first place. I was actually hoping to be mafia. This is the second worst role I could have gotten IMO; worst being VT.

can you explain this plz? as far as I can tell the only disadvantage is being able to hit one less mafia

[Venrob]

Hey, popping on quickly to say a hole just appeared in the roof and the house got filled with a bit of water. The entire living room needs to be re-arranged and every electrionic device tested, so I won't be on for the rest of the day most likely. I might pop on a little bit later, but i g2g.

Also: If mafia upgrade both of their goons to non-goons and don't recruit the traitor as a goon then there are NO GOONS, meaning i can hit no mafia.

[yabbaguy]

"Is it just me, or are the face cards popping out like... really, really frequently?"

"Well there are a lot of them."

"That many though?"

Vote Count 1.6

12 alive, 7 to lynch

Venrob (3): Hiraki, Ankamius, DoctorEagle
Sakura Hana (2): pieguyn, EspeciallyTheLies
JacobSavage (1): Alduskkel
DoctorEagle (1): Sakura Hana
Alduskkel (1): Brian Skies

Not Voting: JacobSavage, Venrob, Viera Assassin, thenewearth

Deadline: September 28, 3 PM EDT (GMT-4) ((expired on 2013-09-28 15:00:00))

[Hiraki]

Unvote

Need to re-read.

[Ankamius]

Hm.

UNVOTE: Venrob

I need to reread things too. I've been way out of it in regards to mafia in general recently.

[Sakura Hana]

@Mod: I'll be V/LA for 1 week

[thenewearth]

prod dodge weeeeee

[thenewearth]

What I really mean is I'd re-read when I'm not lazy >w>

[Alduskkel]

Well, we have a problem. The game's been mostly revolving around Venrob and Sakura, but they're both V/LA. Also it feels like half the playerlist is lurking.

Unvote.

Vote: Viera Assassin

Seems like the worst of the lurkers. Just sort of "on" the Venrob wagon in a clandestine manner.

But yeah, I don't have much to go off of, we need to pressure people to post.

[pieguyn]

oh wow srsly. I thought goon cop just finds out alignment and it was called goon cop cause traitor returns negative.
just to be sure

mod: what exactly does goon cop do? o.o

[yabbaguy]

Mafia Role Cops, BPs, and JOATs return "Not a Goon" if investigated by the Goon Cop.

[Venrob]

Goon cop only finds the non-upgraded goons. That means if they pick 2 goon upgrades and daytalk, or just 2 goon upgrades, then they have no goons.