Mini 1500:Narnia- The Lion,the Witch,and the Wardrobe Mafia

[Hermy]

VOTE: JKLM

How dare you not like goats!

[Hermy]

Thank you for your opinion, we shall give it due consideration

[Hermy]

Responding to prod. Sorry.
Um... woo! It's the weekend! And hi Skelda

Somehow I don't think I ought to put Mozamis at L-1 yet, though... I don't know...

VOTE: projectmatt for voting without a reason. Bit bandwagon-y.

[Hermy]

Terribly sorry; totally forgot about this...(BRO's gonna kill me...!)

Responding to prod. Sorry.
Um... woo! It's the weekend! And hi Skelda

Somehow I don't think I ought to put Mozamis at L-1 yet, though... I don't know...

VOTE: projectmatt for voting without a reason. Bit bandwagon-y.

Why not put mozamis at L-1 if you think he's scummy?

Because we are/were only a few real life days into the game. He's certainly somewhat scummy, but I want more scumreads on more people.
And why put somebody at L-1 after 3-5 RL days, only for scum (or a dimwitted townie) to hammer?

[Hermy]

I've got plenty of examples of Skelda play, if anyone wants it.

Most of them are off quicker paced games (on a different forum) (weekend-long) though. Don't know whether that makes a difference.

[Hermy]

Sorry for the late reply. I'm somewhat busy in RL at the moment.

Anyway... (NB: Some of these are flavour games, they all work like Mafia)

http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/708077.page
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/674030.page
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/706239.page
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/710076.page
http://forum.thesims3.com/jforum/posts/list/709394.page
(the last one was horribly rigged and badly done though)

Hopefully these'll be of some use.

[Hermy]

I've got to agree with smargaret here. When somebody is accused by only one person and becomes overly defensive, that's somewhat of a scumsign.

Skelda also makes me suspicious, but less. His fumbling around with that recent vote seems odd.

But at the moment...
VOTE: HonigBear

NB: I will be V/LA until Thursday

>>Noted<<

[Hermy]

VOTE: Mnemonic

What the heck are you playing at!? And WHY exactly would you not use your vote?

[Hermy]

I don't know what to think now.

I guess since Skelda has started lurking a bit since the accusations, he seems like a good vote. But I REALLY don't like the look of some of the other people voting for him...

[Hermy]

Ack. Sorry. RL was keeping me busy, but I definitely have more time now
<--- Promises to be more active

And the reason I said that I didn't like the look of the people voting for Skelda is because Mozamis and Shane haven't exactly been on my town list.

Skelda, I second what smargaret says, if you have all of those reads then place a vote. Skelda is leaning town for me now, though. That list looks pretty good.

[Hermy]

Prod dodge

And now since I have some time, I'll take a look at people and (finally) do something useful.

[Hermy]

I feel like doing a few little case things right now

PeaceBringer

Spoiler:

vote jklm

well garmr, you can take it and stick it up your backside
it is not schtick it is what I do and how I play... feel free to do what you are doing...
you cannot help it...

vote garmr

vote Skelda...

after catching up,

unvote

vote broken aquarium...

just because

vote project matt

not that gamr makes that point

Vote honig...

vote gamr

If this was anybody but Peace then I'd make a fuss. This flitting between votes and not giving reasons annoys me. But since Peace is being an absolute bumnugget in general, I'll satisfy nyself with an itritated sigh.

But definitely first choice for a policy lynch.

[Hermy]

Broken Aquarium

Spoiler:

UNVOTE: smargaret
VOTE: mneumonicdevice

if i can interpret that...
i'm voting mneumonic cause of post 30. it's the most that's stuck out to me. his whole "i would vote that, but...."
what's the point in saying that?

Why didn't you just post your reason WITH your vote? I don't know whether this is spur-of-the-moment inventing a reason, or not.

guys, that combined with this

Interesting. Someone is already at L-1.

^ most townies react like... "why didn't you call out L-1 with your vote???" here, it seems like he's not that concerned.


and these posts where he's sticking up for others (really looks like whiteknighting):

Ugh... If it was anyone else I would vote this^ for it's annoyingness in RVS, but I know that that is just how he plays

Nice. So 3 votes on me for no reason. and 4 votes on peacebringer. Also because of his playstyle.

I also like how Skelda just randomly jumps on the peacebringer wagon. RVS much?

i really think he is scum.

and he got his vote mixed up on projectmatt

I like this little case. Townpoints for that.

i don't get the votes on Honig....

You don't get the votes on Honig... after about two decent vote explanations from other people (along with their votes, of course). This does sound a little bit like scum trying to subtly defend their scumpartner. You probably did get them and were subtly expressing your 'annoyance/outrage'.

UNVOTE: mneumonic
VOTE: peacebringer

UNVOTE: peacebringer
VOTE: garmr

I don't know whether there was anything specific to change the vote so quickly (ISO view here) but quick vote changes are usually slightly odd looking to me.

You didn't answer why you switched so quickly.

i was sheeping JKLM

What... I don't even...

I'm the one that looks confused?!?!

@Broken Aquarium
Sheeping town reads with out explaining why you agree is pretty bad also you offered nothing new to the argument. You may argue the point about omgusing is a null sign which it can be. But when you act really emotional with out listing points then quickly remove it and say your a town read again in just a couple of post. That is when it turns scummy as hell when it becomes scummy. Also the fact JKLM says the mnemonic wagon looks scummy then you magically sheep him onto his next vote. Using Wifom scenario's aren't the best for defenses as well.

I should note here that Garmr was our leading scum read once we got a little colder on the idea of Mnemonic scum. But no one else was voting for him and we didn't have the drive to make a wagon happen. This is another reason why switching with you was easy.

Also if I was your leading scum read why did you wait for someone else to vote me. Were you that afraid that it might backfire on you if you were town you wouldn't really have anything to lose by scumhunting. This seems more like a scum motivated reason than a town one. You made no indication prior either that you viewed me as scum.

I like how you showed post 211 of Honig saying that's why you think his town. Just like when you asked me why I think Honig is town and I sent a link to that post. Oh wait that's a coincidence isn't it. Also doesn't it worry you at all that you just sheeped a reason off your top scum read.

Also you think I'm scum. where are your points you have failed to make a case against me. You haven't even mentioned a reason why you think I'm scum I guess you'll sheep those reason off JKLM.

Also you pretty much been fluffing all game. It took you till 292 to make a attempt scum hunting because you are under the microscope. Even then you offer no original reasons. Your defenses are paper thin as well you can poke a hole in all of them.

Also with now you want to answer alienbro's question. This looks like some cheap attempt to get the heat off you, It's kinda pathetic you know. There's no where to run now Broken Aquarium I'm not letting you wriggle out of this.

Like, read this and tell me he isn't either delusional or twisting everything to be negative. I didn't start scumhutning until 292? I was scumhutning mnemonic as early as 108. The rest isn't worth responding to or has already been explained.

'Delusional and twisting everything'; '!?'. This totally sounds like scum defending themselves.

[Hermy]

Policy lynching Peace for the sole reason that he is playing badly is a horrible, horrible idea.

Whoever in this game is town and is seriously considering lynching Peace on policy and not because he is mafia, I implore you to reconsider due to how poor the rationale is. Our goal is to lynch the mafia, not to lynch the annoying town. And the way I see it, there's no real reason for Peace to actually be scum, now is there?

Lynch Hermy. If there needs to be a compromise I'll think of one later.

Oh, did I forget to put that policy lynching should be used as a last resort. Sorry, I'm on an iPod and the page refreshed, and I probably forgot to re-type that bit.

[Hermy]

projectmatt

Spoiler:

Unvote

Vote: Mozamis

@Project Matt I'm going to call you out through and ask why did you Vote Mozamis with out listing any reasons. I would actually like to hear some insight on how the game is going.

I'm not one that finds it necessary to supply large amounts of content at the beginning of the game as most of it is guesswork. This is why my first few posts have just been observations. I'll provide actual analysis soon since we're moving out of that stage.

Specifically, I very much disliked his attack on PeaceBringer and his attacks looked not like excited town but opportunistic scum.

Unvote

There is absolutely no way that a lynch is going through or a claim is being made yet.

'I'm not one that finds it necessary...'
Translation: I really can't be bothered.

And the quick unvote gives a slight 'I don't care who is lynched right now' vibe, which is scummy to me.

Vote: Hermy

I'll explain this tomorrow. Hang tight!

a) Lazy
b) I reckon you're aiming for an easy lynch here. I've been v/la and therefore I haven't provided much (yet), therefore I'm definitely bad and should be policy lynched (that's the feel I'm getting here) even though you're against a policy lynch of Peace.
I did say I'll post more now that I have time...

I'm off to do homework but later tonight I'll provide more

[Hermy]

Mozamis, I agree with Skelda.

I reckon you're aiming for an easy lynch here. I notice how none of your lynvh pool have been around much. Therefore they're slipping under the radar, blah blah blah, and so on, and so forth. All of us have lives away from the internet and have stuff to do. I see no real reason for any of the lynches. We've been as helpful as time has allowed us to.
/rant

[Hermy]

Broken Aquarium unvotes his scumpartner when there is a strong possibility of him getting lynched. The vote is then not put back. Noted.

VOTE: Broken Aquarium

[Hermy]

Randomly assuming there are three scum roles in this game (or just saying three of the scum), I'd say, at the moment, that BA, Mnemonic and Mozamis are scum.

[Hermy]

Ah right Garmr didnt put him at L-1. He is now at L-1 though. Someone unvote.

And why exactly does somebody need to unvote? We'd like to see his reaction.

You're confirming my suspicions of a BA, Moz, Mnemonic scumteam.

[Hermy]

Broken Aquarium unvotes his scumpartner when there is a strong possibility of him getting lynched. The vote is then not put back. Noted.

VOTE: Broken Aquarium

That alone kinda confirms that BA is scum although I keep going back and forth on MD

Although not enough to vote MD

Kill jester that's just lazy I've yet to really see a SOLID argument on MD IMO

Really, my only proper argument for MD's lynch is the named VT claim, without a full claim.

[Hermy]

Wait yea that is a little weird. Why did Hermy switch wagons?

I switched wagons because, at this point, BA is certainly more scummy to me. His previous action of unvoting, and not putting his vote back when things were explained looks like mafia feebly trying to defend a scumpartner. Therefore I changed wagons. I'd still be happy with an MD lynch, but BA is definitely scummier to me.

(If it would help or be convenient in any way, then I will change my vote back. Just tell me to do so.)

[Hermy]

Did I not post anything yesterday? I must've forgotten. Prod dodge

I'll post properly when I have time.

[Hermy]

Wasn't Garmr already voting for MD? Isn't it still L-1?

[Hermy]

Prod dodge.

Give me an hour or two and I'll be able to think straight and post defense and usefulness.
(Stupid people playing mafia with me on other forums being dumb assholes has got me angry).

[Hermy]

VOTE: Hermy
You were very jumpy on the wagons at the end of the day. Did you suspect he would flip town?

Not really, actually. The messed up townie claim sort of convinced me he was scum.

[Hermy]

vote: hermy

We're doing this today. Yesterday you guys were stupid and ignored the blatant mafia so maybe today we can actually, you know, go for it. Don't lynch Broken Aquarium. This is happening. Today.

Stop treating this as nothing but a continuation of D1. Other people are making other cases. Stop tunnelling so hard on me. You're being extremely desperate for a semi-easy lynch.

[Hermy]

moz - because I connected the dots. Also, Hermy didn't do hardly anything yesterday, and that deserves some pressure.

I'm happy with a RachMarie wagon, though.

I didn't do much because of V/LA. I tried to do what i could in the time I was there.

How many more times will I have to explain that to somebody?

[Hermy]

Then why was BA more likely to be scum to you and what do you think of him after the moz flip.

Also can you give us your reads.

Moz flip? You mean MD flip?

Right now BA has gotten a tad less scummy. The silencing attempt on BA wasn't a very wise move from scum, as it's also convinced me of his innocence a little. Though I haven't completely put the idea of BA being scum away.

I'll post reads after I've finished responding to a few other things.

[Hermy]

I'm really not liking this extremely quick wagon I got. I'm 100% sure that at least one scum person was on that.

[Hermy]

smargaret - Null/Leaning Town
Garmr - Town/Leaning Town
Skelda - Null
mozamis - Null
killerjester - Leaning Scum
RachMarie - Null-ish (haven't heard all that much yet)
Broken Aquarium - Null/Ever so slightly leaning scum
Hermy - N/A
PeaceBringer - Leaning Town
JKLM - Town
projectmatt - Leaning Scum

[Hermy]

@ Hermy - what makes you think Matt and KJ might be scum?

I hate how they're aiming for an easy lynch.
I hate how Matt is incapable of being open-minded.

[Hermy]

So Hermy has two strong reads, both of them town reads? Total?

Nice fencesitting there.

I post what I think. And I only have two strong reads. Whenever I do lists I rarely have more than two strong reads. If you want it confirmed then ask Skelda. He's played a lot with me off-site and he knows (you can check the on-site games too, but it's not like there's many of them).

[Hermy]

Matt, what the hell? You're being completely anti-town here. Stop it with the easy lynch and do some real scumhunting. And if you somehow ARE town then losing two townies is pretty dumb.

[Hermy]

*watches Matt avoid the thread when asked to actually give a reason*

[Hermy]

You guys really believe the claim, just like that?

This may sound panicked and desperate but please believe me. I am not scum. Matt is scum, fakeclaiming cop. Unless...

@Mod - Are there any miller roles in this game?