NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[kuribo]

It has really killed my motivation.

How the hell did it kill your motivation? Are we running up your buddy?

[kuribo]

You dare blame us for lynching bulba when you were the hammer? And to say we were town reading bulba is a flat out lie.

Fuck outta here with that noise. And you're damn right Nero deserved a lynch.

You had the opportunity to vote dram and didn't. Dram flipped town, so fucking what? He'd have been mislynched ages ago if he hadn't been a claimed mason. And you didn't vote dram yesterday: you voted me.

To blame me for all three of those is abject bullshit, one person can't lynch anyone alone.

You called Ceph town, abstained from letters wagon when he was guiltied, then obviously knew how dram would flip: his flip has nothing to do with you voting me, you were doing that before the flip.

DGBs out of the country and Head #3 has disappeared, so it's you and me now.

[kuribo]

of course he is, he was brian hollywood's slot

[kuribo]

Eesh, good game all.

I legitimately though BabySpice was the SK when I got her lynched but figured it was still great for my team if she wasn't.

Ffery, why do I always gotta be mafia in games with you : P

you do realize I'm 2/2 at reading you as scum right?

[kuribo]

we all thought it was pretty obvious who the third head was

hehehheh
HhehAHHE
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AHEHAHAEHAHAHH
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WWHAT

WHATS THIS

BULBA IS REALLY TRYIGN TO PUSH US ON THAT HORSESHIT "THEYRE AFRAID TO BE LYNCHED" LINE?

YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO YOURE UP AGAINST

I CAN

TATSE YOUR FEAR BULBA

I CAN TASTE YOUR FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN

It's Fate, isn't it.

[kuribo]

Also, gg all around. Was a crazy fun game other than a few low points.

Sorry for shooting you guys Kuribo/DGB/whoever the third head is, Kuribo was getting eerily close to figuring everything out, and I figured we could push the Jacob lynch pretty easily.

lol

[kuribo]

I was working on AP being bulletproof as well which I suppose the town wouldn't know.

DGB and I literally figured that out the night we got NK'd

[kuribo]

SHE WAS A SELF-DOC'ING PROTECT-FOR-TWO-NIGHTS


WHO THE FUCK WOULD HAVE EVER GUESSED THAT WAS A REAL ROLE

[kuribo]

How did you guys figure that BP bit out? Parity aside, its kinda an obscure thing to realize?

I dont think I would have got there as town but maybe.

pretty simple, we figured the SK had hit you and that accounted for at least one of the missing kills that cowbells tried to claim he blocked us from committing (we knew we were VT and thus that couldnt have been the reason for the missing kills)

[kuribo]

SHE WAS A SELF-DOC'ING PROTECT-FOR-TWO-NIGHTS


WHO THE FUCK WOULD HAVE EVER GUESSED THAT WAS A REAL ROLE

I did >.>

Also, I'm pretty sure you were also on the verge of figuring me out.

we were of the opinion as recently as half an hour before crab's flip that you OR AP were scum with him, but probably not both, so I can't really know where it would have went after AP's flip

[kuribo]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=31325

I was reading along in this game. TSO made a post saying "hey remember that time that kuribo as town fake claimed masons with a town bulletproof and then got him lynched?" and we, the mafia, had narrowed down the potential SK slots down to only Serene or THe Savage slot. I ran my replace out post INCLUDING THE SHADI COMMENT by the backup mod, DV, before posting it. So those of you that called me a cheater can go eat shit and die.

you're not a cheater, but ironically, you unvoting us for that reason and then flipping mafia would have confirmed us as town---

the only "outside information" you could have gotten as scum would be that we're not the SK (you'd already know if we were scum with you)


hence, "i replace out, knowing someone else's alignment, unvote: serene" and then flipping scum... directly confirms us as town


but we died that night, so

[kuribo]

PA was so obviously town that we actually considered the COP to be scum over P_A

[kuribo]

as i pointed out in the Serene hydra QT, what was really funny was when someone asked if any of us would fakeclaim masons with our scumbuddy


Every single person in Serene has done that at one time or another

(DGB and I claimed masons together in the first Gay Mafia, Fate famously won a game doing it)

[kuribo]

Trying to push Ank as someone who bussed a scumpartner was not ever really off the table.

pedit: Yeah, the Ank kill there would have probably lost us the game >.>

the Ank scumread was pretty much Fate and I deciding that claiming X-shot cop and then faking a guilty on your own buddy while clearing one and clearing a townie sounded like some shit we would have pulled

[kuribo]

Unvoting your current vote when you replace out is a courteous thing to do regardless of anything.

Alot of people don't though.

And besides, DGB and I were both in Antihero Mafia with TSO, we already knew what crabd meant when he replaced out an hour or so after that happened.

[kuribo]

it was just the fact that she stayed alive so long when everyone read her as town

[kuribo]

also pigeon, congratulations on being one of the elite few that can say I posted for them a selfie of me calling them scum

[kuribo]

I'll wait for DGB before we decide if we're releasing the 500-post long hydra QT


most of day 1 is us whining that no one is being lynched


most of everything day 3 and forward is us whining that we havent been lynched

[kuribo]

How much were you raging when I posted this:

Also I'd like to point out that Ffery was saying exactly what I am now saying and she ended up dead.

from the very same day you posted that:

[kuribo]

AP: at that moment, we figured that you might be SK if not group scum and if SK then definitely bulletproof. we knew you were scum of some variety, just not quite sure which

cowbells was so blatant and lynchable though that he had to go first

"scum probably have a bulletproof" dawned on us the night we died

[kuribo]

yeah I'm trying to relax more


I meant what I said earlier about trying not to flip out when people wagon me



but AP, you wagoning me is how I figured you as scum both times, I can read your reactions to my rage

[kuribo]

Holy fucking shit I'm scared to face DGB or kuribo-scum.

Like, super scared.

I've only been lynched as scum once since 2009, (and only two times previous-- both as Godfather) every other time I was either NK'd or endgamed by the other scumteam, or victorious

In fact, I've only been lynched at all about five times out of around 50 games played (I still don't count the game where I fakeclaimed Mafia Goon to get myself lynched because Empking pissed me off) and only twice altogether since 2009.

don't worry, other than Fortnight (which wasn't meant to be a balanced setup), I have literally not been scum since July of last year



so just assume I'm always town

[kuribo]

SERENE'S QT OF TERRIBLE PLAY:

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/vHgVMYrrCRt8s

all 497 posts of it

[kuribo]

our biggest problems in this game, I think:

* The three of us disagreed on reads to the point where we just started convincing each other
* to this day, I still havent read anything from before we replaced in
* Fate left us hanging halfway through the game
* I started dating and was never home around the time DGB also was out of the country (you can see a severe drop in our activity during this time)
* Nero's antagonism set the stage for us to spend a good chunk of the game arguing with other people instead of scumhunting
* Our inability to die caused us severe apathy

We rallied around the time that AP replaced in and we started talking on FaceBook instead of the QT though

[kuribo]

This makes me feel bad that I get lynched in roughly 1/3 of my games >.>

I dunno what to tell you but if it makes you feel better, Antihero got abandoned LITERALLY BECAUSE ONE PERSON VOTED ME

[kuribo]

lolllllllll.

I just ran the numbers, I've been lynched 4 times, shot once on day 1 in Bad idea, and dayvigged once (Calvin in Hobbes, and I was about to deathtunnel scum )

So 6/15 games have "bad" deaths in them.

And I have a 2/3 winrate somehow.

Yeah...

oh, I've never been vigged


I've been a self-sacrificing vig (suicide bomber) twice and killed myself and scum both times though

[kuribo]

whoa

foreshadowing:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... l#p4925855
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... l#p4925761

[kuribo]

even if he only read into it, that's exactly why there's zero-tolerance for the ongoing games rule

[kuribo]

i'm not trying to villainize him, what i'm saying is that he keeps saying "Well, i only said this," etc


yes, that may be so, but because it affected the outcome of THIS game, he shouldn't have said anything



pedit: yes, pretty much. if crabd even thought that TSO's comment was alignment-revealing, the right thing to do was to replace. crabd had no way of knowing that TSO had no insider knowledge.

[kuribo]

i was more annoyed that orc used my drunk-posts from the still-ongoing-at-the-time Pikmin Mafia against me

[kuribo]

i was more annoyed that orc used my drunk-posts from the still-ongoing-at-the-time Pikmin Mafia against me

Kuribo you arent allowed to retire until I get a chance to face you when you are scum. Or hell maybe just me being town : P

I feel like Id be able to read you well since we both see the game in a similar way.

well, like i said, i havent been scum in over a year excepting fortnight




besides, i signed up for quadz / UT's game

[kuribo]

Dat player list. I may have to replace into that when something opens.

I tried to get Mr. Flay and SpyreX to join too