Open 530 "WSoB" (Stack the Deck): GAME OVER

[Alduskkel]

Do 855-858 seem like scumposts to you?

[Sakura Hana]

They are null at best, and both heads have been posting elsewhere during all this time.

[InflatablePie]

well, we're not lynching me or Jacob or Sakura. or Hiraki (despite him being bad he's bleeding town). so it's between DE, Aldusk and ns.

ns being the scum that's no-killing and then saying he wants to be lynched is practically playing against his win condition.
Aldusk is probably not scum although he keeps making me paranoid.

which leaves Eagle and I can't think of anything off the top of my head that makes him overly townie.

Aldusk do you really think posts like 860/863 and especially the second part of 867, are scumposts?

also:

I mean, this is really silly because the question is essentially, "Of all these people who are probably town, who is scum? Please ignore that scummy guy over there, you can't lynch him yet."

yeah this is really bugging me

I mean we

can

lynch JS and just hope to god scum were stupid and did NOT try and kill the claimed bodyguard after ETL died, instead hit the traitor, oh and they picked a daytalk upgrade.

I am perfectly fine with dying tonight if I'm wrong, and I

think

once we have all this confirmation/optimal play strategy out of the way (which is kinda clouding

my

judgement at least), you guys can scumhunt your way to a win.

[InflatablePie]

I'm just going to do this:

vote JacobSavage

and I'll be back tomorrow evening.

Occam's Razor. Scum picking daytalk

and

killing not-JS the night after a JOAT lynch, after they probably used the strongman ability already the night prior, seems like bad play, or at least very unlikely. I'm done trying this optimal play bullshit.

[Hiraki]

Except that there was no point for Alduskkel to ask that question due to that vote, like I've said before.

[Sakura Hana]

If you weren't literally confirmed town atm, i'd be totally voting you for that IP...

IMO why dont we no lynch? we'd be forcing scum to make a move or they risk a happily ever after.

[Hiraki]

How do you know that scum didn't make a move?

[InflatablePie]

Why would you be voting me? Even if I wasn't confirmed town, I'm dead tonight if JS is a BG.

Also... hmm...

@Mod:

what's your ruling with regards to Happily Ever After scenarios? What number of lynches/no lynches have to occur for this to be enforced? Also, does this apply only to

intentional

no lynching and no killing?

Hiraki: maybe because I did not submit a block last night, so we know scum are no-killing?

[Sakura Hana]

Because IP said he didnt roleblock last night.

PEd: yeah what IP said.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki: maybe because I did not submit a block last night, so we know scum are no-killing?

...you weren't lying?

[InflatablePie]

Did you seriously think I was lying?

[Alduskkel]

FINE. Holy god is this day stupid.

Vote: DoctorEagle

Since the NS lynch is obviously a no-go.

Please avoid roleblocking NS or Hiraki. Yes, I know that only leaves me and Sakura, but I can't say that I trust either of the first two to handle being confirmed town very well (assuming they are town). NS specifically requested not to have the game rest in his hands, and we both agree Hiraki isn't competent.

[Hiraki]

Yes. I was waiting for you to say something about it.

[InflatablePie]

I'm not staying true to my 'don't come back to the thread until tomorrow' sentiment...

But yeah, like I thought I said earlier... if I RB'd someone, and claimed it today, it would just cause confusion/arguments that lead nowhere. If there

was

a kill last night, woo, I woulda confirmed someone as town but we'd probably lynch JS today in that case due to not having an extra lynch to optimize and they'd die by LYLO. By not blocking, it tells me/us that scum aren't killing, which is a far more telling result.

I actually still think lynching JS today is fine, however, I will still hammer an Eagle wagon. At least once the mod gets back to me on the HEA scenario.

[JacobSavage]

Okay do you not understand the paranoia aspect behind this. Keep the scummy BG alive so they get lynched.

Anyway I've told you, by keeping me alive til 3p lylo we can at worst draw.

[Alduskkel]

Oh god, is it actually optimal to lynch JS at 3p and not 5p? This sucks.

[yabbaguy]

Vote Count 5.3

7 alive, 4 to lynch

DoctorEagle (2): Sakura Hana, Alduskkel
Alduskkel (1): Hiraki
JacobSavage (1): InflatablePie

Not Voting: DoctorEagle, JacobSavage, notscience

* Deadline: Nov. 17 @ 10 PM EST ((expired on 2013-11-17 22:00:00))
* Prodding: notscience, DoctorEagle
* It will be Rocks Fall Everyone Dies (losing stalemate) if we go two full cycles of No Lynch, No Kill in any way.

[DoctorEagle]

Sorry about the prod. Been reading in on Ald and Hiraki.

I didn't even notice that I was at L-1 when I last posted. Sorry about the delay.

I'm a VT.

911 is bad, imo. Along with him, voting NS soon as he says that he sucks in LYLO.

VOTE: Alduskkel

[DoctorEagle]

Er, messed up the post tags.

911

[DoctorEagle]

I'm not ok with lynching JS, fyi.

[JacobSavage]

Yep assuming IP isn't scum (was having paranoid thoughts about this in the morning. It would explain why 1. I haven't died, 2. Why their was a no kill, 3. It means scum don't have to take daytalk - Might expand on this because unsettlingly it does explain a lot of what has happened...)

And yes I've been though it, lynch me happily ever after til end game. Scum have to kill me unless they want this to happen (unless IP is scum).

[Sakura Hana]

Yep assuming IP isn't scum

IP is conftown.

[Alduskkel]

You're gonna have to come up with actual reasons for that, DE. Not just "this is bad."

[notscience]

DP are you scum

[JacobSavage]

Yep assuming IP isn't scum

IP is conftown.

How? Where?