Mini 1500:Narnia- The Lion,the Witch,and the Wardrobe Mafia

[RachMarie]

/confoim

Reading up now....

[RachMarie]

Still working on catching up here but I am not feeling the whole mnem thing here. Granted it is a fairly obscure character in the book. granted he muffed his claim, granted he just said he was VT when not at L-1 with intent to hammer on him, however it feels genuine. It feels like uggh I dont know the flavor and I dont want to get in trouble with quoting too much. I think scum would have been far more careful in their fake claim. Be more rehearsed with it.

I have replaced into games where I was not really familiar with the theme and flavor and just gone clueless on it. For example, in 90s Cartoon Mafia I was the one shot mass commuter as Ms Frizzle from the Magic School Bus. I muffed it because the role PM actually called her something slightly different, which I really did not pay much attention to, I was focused on what my role was and once I knew I was town, and what my pIower was, I pretty much did not pay much attention to the rest of the role PM. Had I been scum in that game, I would have paid a LOT more attention and knew what to claim properly as a fake claim.

Because I was at least familiar with The Magic School Bus, though many of the other characters I had no clue at all on, I was able to give town enough for them to realize I was not scum in that game.

I can imagine if someone was not familiar with the books and only watched the movie or the BBC miniseries, that they might be confused. Or have no experience at all with Narnia.

There are other giants, Some fought on the side of the White Witch, but were not named. In Book 4 The Silver Chair, a group of Giants is also mentioned who are in league with the Lady of the Green Kirtle who also was an evil witch.

But as far as I remember, that was the only named giant in the first book.

[RachMarie]

I am not saying anything about other reasons peeps are voting for him I am just saying based on the claim I dont buy into KJs adamant avowal that it is clearly a scum fake claim because see how he messed it up. My esperience has been scum are less likely to fumble than town. As in the example I posted.

[RachMarie]

need to look at those on it in more detail. I just did not want to leave you all in the lurch when that caught my eye while reading through.

[RachMarie]

hmnm will do some ISO research and check the VCs, see if I can get a better handle on this game.

[RachMarie]

I am having issues with my new hearing aids and my fiance NS took them into the office today, hopefully it is something they can fix right there and not have to send into the shop, I am using a cheap amplifier I got off of Amazon and it is better than nothing, but I still get pretty worn out without at least a proper hearing aid in my right ear. That is why I am listed V/LA

[RachMarie]

Umm peeps I am working on catching up I was V/LA til yesterday

[RachMarie]

Ok guys and gals

In WHAT universe is being V/LA in EVERY GAME lurking?

In addition to some financial paperwork issues we had to sort out, my hearing aids were not working for a few days til NS could take them in to be worked on, and October 24th was my Dad's birthday, my dad who died 11 months ago. I have had one hell of a week this week. Which was why I went V/LA in the first place.

I went to do the ISO work yesterday and the site was down for several hours.

In what universe does BA even know me? PB your reasoning makes NO sense whatsoever.

VOTE: PB

[RachMarie]

I am posting in my kindle fire atm. I have been in bed for the past 2 and a half days. Throwing up, headaches, body aches, and all sorts of nasty things that I would not wish on my own worst enemy. Back soon.

[RachMarie]

In reading the ISO of Henry, the one who was scum, I find that she talks a lot about smargaret, but then lists him as null/leaning town...

Why are so many of following his words? I am clearly low hanging fruit. Time for a serious vote.


VOTE: smargaret

[RachMarie]

Interesting how much resistance there is (read as lack of action) on a RachMarie wagon. And I know she's v/la again, but we still have almost no content and an OMGUS vote. Why aren't more people voting her?

Misrepresent much ?

[RachMarie]

Ok guys and gals

In WHAT universe is being V/LA in EVERY GAME lurking?

In addition to some financial paperwork issues we had to sort out, my hearing aids were not working for a few days til NS could take them in to be worked on, and October 24th was my Dad's birthday, my dad who died 11 months ago. I have had one hell of a week this week. Which was why I went V/LA in the first place.

I went to do the ISO work yesterday and the site was down for several hours.

In what universe does BA even know me? PB your reasoning makes NO sense whatsoever.

VOTE: PB

This is what I actually said. Not OMGUS because I had reasons for my vote.

Going after low hanging fruit much? As for assuming that BA knew me best over other players? Not likely.

[RachMarie]

Not sure why the scum picked alienbro maybe they thought he was a PR.

[RachMarie]

You mean from my pred? Since I replaced in the game? Btw alienbro is a hydra of brosideon and penguin alien I have played with them both as a hydra and on their mains. I am not getting the whole thing about them tho, since there are clear indications of a connection tween Henry who flipped scum and smargaret.

[RachMarie]

Gamr it can be either, tho in my experience I have mainly seen it as a town role.

[RachMarie]

Definitely it is benefiting town now since a strong candidate for scum is the one without a vote.

[RachMarie]

I will ISO alienate but I really did not pay attention to them and was more focused on living players and the one dead scum.

[RachMarie]

Alienbro ugghhh I hate posting on my kindle fire. I can't do what I wanted to do with their quotes on this platform. I should be able to get on the computer tomorrow and do it.

[RachMarie]

Matt why do you have a town read on smargaret? I am not seeing it at all.

1. Lots of association with finally giving a read of null/ leaning town by the flipped scum.

2. Constant and persistent misrepping and tunneling on me without saying anything on anyone else really almost to the point of personal attacks. Its a good way for scum to appear to be scum hunting, especially when you combine it with number 3.

3. Focusing on low hanging fruit and my lack of activity which has been based on RL, hence the V/LA.

Why is no one else seeing this?

KJ why so paranoid about the vote controller and why act like they must be scum. So far it looks like they have helped prevent a scummy player from railroading a lynch on town. Could it be that person is town? What is the motivation for your paranoia here? If you are town as you say, then why the freakout?

meh you can go in the scum pile with smargaret thought not as strong a read as on him.


However Skelda's reaction to it feels very town so another one in the town pile.

[RachMarie]

That felt like a town post by KJ

Though he is off on a couple peeps, I think, he has clear reads and wants to make sure peeps know that before they lynch him.

Compare his read on me which makes sense, since I have only recently started contributing due to being on V/LA and such with the one smargaret has on me. Who has now upped the ante by saying oh yeah your pred was scummy too, but again with no solid case on him either.

smargaret remains my top scum read and he still has done nothing to convince me otherwise.

Taking a closer look at JKLM to see why so many are seeing him as scummy since no one seems to see my case on smargaret.

[RachMarie]

Skelda you around? Cause we are running out of time.

If not I will hammer I am here for a bit

[RachMarie]

no not a NL it is not MYLO

wow just wow JKLM I am not nervous, I just do not like to see NL when its not beneficial to town to have one. Day 1 and 2 especially a NL is bad juju.

meh not impressed at all


VOTE: JKLM

[RachMarie]

nope was one shot. And you may have noticed even though I controlled a scum vote I did not use it just kept him from using it to railroad town.

Peter Pevensie 1 shot Vote controller at your service. Now I am basically just a glorified VT

and once again smargaret shows it was good I used my one shot on him bah

Edmund was a bit of a traitor in the first book. So yeah not buying the miller claim, especially with the cop dead and you not claiming miller right off the bat. Miller is a nice claim to fake.


VOTE: smargaret

[RachMarie]

or possibly she is a ninja with both a tracker and a cop that is a good possibility


sorry about calling you a he smargaret. I still think you are scum though.

[RachMarie]

It is just one shot which is why I used it when I did. Because last time I tried to hold off using a 1 shot power til LYLO, I never got to use it because I got lynched. Even now ya all are suggesting lynching me over someone who is far more likely to be scum.

A miller claims right off the bat. That has been my experience here on site. I also know that scum have fake claimed miller. So why would I assume oh yes must be true. Also the amount of PRs in the town seems pretty high even with many of them being swingy or weak PRs. (I definitely can see how a vote controller can be swingy. Had I used both votes to lynch someone instead of just holding one vote and using my own vote, it could have turned out bad for town. Hence the reason I did not use the vote just stole it.)

Today is not LYLO I doubt we would have 4 scum? 3 is far more likely in a Mini game. Since we lynched one already, that means 2 more at most, or maybe 1 more and a SK but meh not enough kills for that so I am leaning to a 3 scum party. So not yet LYLO.

[RachMarie]

I have been a tad focused on smargaret I have to admit I will take a look at PB's ISO because clearly I am missing something here.

However I do not get the whole even vote controller thingy peeps are talking about. Had I that I would have said I had that. I am basically just a VT now since I used my one shot, and all the talk of lynching me, makes me even more convinced that I was right to use it when I could.

[RachMarie]

@ Hermy - what makes you think Matt and KJ might be scum?

I hate how they're aiming for an easy lynch.
I hate how Matt is incapable of being open-minded.

You guys really believe the claim, just like that?

This may sound panicked and desperate but please believe me. I am not scum. Matt is scum, fakeclaiming cop. Unless...

@Mod - Are there any miller roles in this game?

(comments Hermy made in regard to the discussion about PLing PB)


From PB's ISO

I am willing to one versus one. I am that confident. If Hermy flips town, I will willingly sacrifice myself.

tell you what we lynch Rach Marie today and we will go hermy tomorrow...

This sounds like trying to get a townie lynched to save a scum player

Quick post pre-ciggy. Still keen on voting for JKLM. We need to be slight;y careful though as its only 5 to lynch. Rach I could go for I guess, although we need her to post more.
@Peace - why is JK your 2nd suspect?

Because I am fairly certain Rach Marie is scum. Same as why I woulda had Hermy as #2 yesterday. Rach is my # 1 suspect, period. There is nothing that has altered that. JK looks awfully scummy. killer jester is beginning to know as well.

Wait minute now he is saying Hermy was number 2? If so why was he so reluctant to lynch her the day before?

yeah maybe I'm being overcautious, it's 5 for a lynch I guess. Just want to hold off until Matt gets back to us.
My problem with the Rach wagon is I didn't find Honig that scummy, so lynching Rach amounts to lynching a lurker. I never mind that, since scum often do lurk. But, yeah I'm on the fence atm. To be clear, if the day was ending now I would vote for either Jk or Rach. But since it isn't, I'm gonna wait and see.

Moz, face it, you haven't had the best reads, as you do not trust me, even though I currently trust you. The reason for Rach has really nothing to do with lurking. It has to do with the death of the one person that can read Rach well when they post. Just because you do not find someone sucmmy, does . not mean they are not and vice versa vis a vie your suspiscion of me.

Ah yes the dude who assumed that I killed some dude before I was even really in the game without considering the fact that if I really were scum the last person I would have killed immediately is someone I knew well. Someone I could possibly get mislynched based on meta, if I were really scum.

Ok guys and gals

In WHAT universe is being V/LA in EVERY GAME lurking?

In addition to some financial paperwork issues we had to sort out, my hearing aids were not working for a few days til NS could take them in to be worked on, and October 24th was my Dad's birthday, my dad who died 11 months ago. I have had one hell of a week this week. Which was why I went V/LA in the first place.

I went to do the ISO work yesterday and the site was down for several hours.

In what universe does BA even know me? PB your reasoning makes NO sense whatsoever.

VOTE: PB

the first night kill- not BA

Corrects my impression but does not see that this shows I had not been really in the game yet duh.

Interesting how much resistance there is (read as lack of action) on a RachMarie wagon. And I know she's v/la again, but we still have almost no content and an OMGUS vote. Why aren't more people voting her?

because people thought honig was town based on nothing sound

Goes after my pred but with something vague with no detail to explain his point.

Not sure why the scum picked alienbro maybe they thought he was a PR.

the reason seems very clear, he was all over wanting to hear more for you and would tell if you are scum or not... pretty straight forward.

Back to this again without considering the fact that since I just joined and been V/LA a lot during the past while I frankly thought he was talking about BA, other peeps noticed this but hes still singing the same tune.

musta failed to vote properly

vote rachmarie...

still time for this

Still more of the same what do you think of other players in the game?

Okay, feel like it is worthwhile for me to claim.

I am "The Wardrobe" and am an odd-night jailer. I pick someone and they are transported to another realm. Unfortunately the role PM is nebulous as it states may or may prevent action...
Night 1 jailed Moz
Night 3 jailed rach

Totally missed this claim somehow in catch up. I modded a micro theme about Narnia with Role Madness and Upick. One of the fake claims I had was the Dawn Treader. Also odd night seems strange since there is no even night PR.

meh yeah definitely can see something here. Also there is association with smargaret as well as hermy.

Oh BTW I am an ENFP with strong N fairly strong P and E/I and F/T are pretty close with just a bit of a majority in E and F.

the vote steal is it limited.

did she claim to be a vote stealer and I missed it, I didn't see anything at a quick look on her ISO

No follow up here. I claimed to be a vote controller one shot BTW now a glorified VT. Which makes more sense in terms of power along with a tracker and a cop (unlimited) than an odd night PR with no even night PR.


Sorry for the wall guys


VOTE: PB

He is now L-1 DO NOT VOTE WITHOUT GIVING INTENT TO HAMMER

[RachMarie]

meh in my experience most of the time when someone self hammers they turn out to be scum. The AtE also seems rather scummy.

[RachMarie]

I want to hear who skelda tracked as well.

I really thought he (PB) was fake claiming especially with so much PR out there

Lets not get in a big hurry here to lynch because I think we may be in LYLO have to double check the lynches again.

[RachMarie]

yep we only have lynched Hermy so that means most likely there are 2 scum left which means we are in LYLO

[RachMarie]

umm I already did my one and only power

I controlled a vote and it was a one shot. Im basically now a glorified VT.

I am beginning to wonder about you Skelda.... After all tracker is a role that works for both town and scum.

[RachMarie]

I am fairly confident of that too, but not willing to rush to vote here til we have fully discussed things. I do not want to see a scum bang bang and town lose.

[RachMarie]

and that makes me feel pretty good about KJ

right now we should not vote til we are all clear on the discussion phase because it is LYLO.


Garmr Why in such a big hurry?


Skelda
I was not a vote stealer I was a one shot vote controller, I could have cast a vote for smarg on herself even if I chose to do that. My focus though was on preventing someone I felt was scum from voting, not on using her vote for someone else or even on herself.

Based on the other PRs, I would say the fact that my role is rather swingy and can be a negative utility role for town makes some sense in balancing, like in the game where I was a town ascetic.

I am definitely in favor of smarg who I have all along thought was scum, however I also want to figure out who the other scum is. And I want to be sure town has the time to make sure it happens that we get all the info we can at this point because it is LYLO.

[RachMarie]

cop was one shot, JK was odd night, I was one shot. as far as I can tell the only claimed PR that is all the time is tracker.

[RachMarie]

uggh seems like a stall to me

oops forgot that? yeah that makes miller even less likely

And I would not be surprised with one shot cop and tracker that there is a ninja in addition to the JOAT.

[RachMarie]

game is stalled because we are waiting on smarg here to post her big case.

[RachMarie]

if we all are right, and I think we are, and smarg flips scum, who do you think might be smarg's buddy?

[RachMarie]

Smarg and I am really not completely sure Leaning to Skelda though but I need to look at interactions with Smarg more carefully before I am sure

[RachMarie]

Pretty sure on Smarg need to ISO for connections with Skelda its looking more like bussing tween them than defending each other.

[RachMarie]

Sorry about the tunneling smarg

Seemed a tad unbalianced though. I did say Skelda was likely scum, I guess I should have pushed that read more, but it was more gut than solid logic

[RachMarie]

pfft you were scum dude that does not count I meant sorry to my fellow TOWN members

[RachMarie]

I was already honing in on Skelda you on the other hand were far more slippery I really believed your tracker claim

[RachMarie]

brain is going I need more caffiene